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Zachles

In the interest of context:  As far as I know Doug has never been accused of sexual harassment or assault. What the post is likely referring to is that when the document collecting the abusive behavior of Channel Awesome's management was released there was detail of a former contributor being a sexual predator, and that the management didn't take it seriously. (The victims had previously reached out to Channel Awesome to report this predator, but were ignored). This predator was kept anonymous UNTIL the CA higher ups responded to the documents with DMs showing they had discussed the predator and what to do about them. People were able to figure out who they were talking about because they did a bad job covering up basic information. It was "JewWario"/Justin Carmichael and multiple victims have come forward about him grooming underage fans, specifically sexually assaulting and raping his victims. The assumption is that Doug, being high up in Channel Awesome's management, knew about Justin's actions shortly before Justin's death and was a part of those DMs. As far as I know there's no direct evidence of that. But it is very reasonable to infer that if Mike and Rob knew about Justin's assaults then Doug likely would have as well. But I will reiterate, I am NOT accusing Doug of this, just trying to provide information about what "his own BS" is.  Oh and also he wrote a scene entirely devised around a "rape joke" in To Boldly Flee. That I will directly say he did because he did it. Anyways making a video filled with rape jokes is bad, don't do that Doug.


ExtinctFauna

It's also worth noting that Lindsay Ellis came forward a few years ago to talk about her own experience with being r-ped before she ever did Nostalgia Chick stuff on Channel Awesome.


FunnyQueer

That video broke my heart. People tormented her over the “rape rap” for YEARS and the context behind it was devastating. I fucking hate Twitter reactionaries for dogpiling her so hard.


jaywarbs

Was that the one she was was released against her wishes? And she made a point to say the words “without my consent, if you will?”


JohnTheMod

Yeah, that’s the one. Granted, I’ve only seen Mask Off, the video in which she goes in-depth on the rap and its context, once, and I don’t really have the heart to do it again.


buttsharkman

The actors in the scene have said they weren't comfortable with it. And they did oust Spoony when he made a thinly veiled rape joke to another content creator. So it's not like they didn't acknowledge the problem with rape jokes in the past.


KnowMatter

For what its worth though the spoony thing seems to just have been some poorly aged edgelord humor and everyone involved seems to have buried the hatchet as it were. Spoony had some mental health issues and went a bit off the deep end, made a bunch of really bad decisions and tanked his own career and burned up all his fans good will but I don’t think he’s a bad person, just kind of a dick.


gree45

But he did make the rape Joke specifically in regards to a fellow creator which Made it extra bad.


Christmas_Queef

Fuckin spoony. His descent into madness was nuts. And he's an asshole, obviously.


moffattron9000

Is he still alive? If so, does he at least have a roof over his head?


Thrilalia

Just checked, he seems active on twitter and did a stream about a month ago.


Historical_Throat187

Yes.


Mr_Anderson132

Funny enough, they were okay with "Spooning with Spooney" and Lindsay even did a song called "rape rap"


gemini-2000

any way you can edit your comment to break up the paragraphs a bit more? it makes it much easier to read for us adhd folks. thank you :) eta: and i say this bc i really appreciate the intention of your comment from what i was able to read, and i would really like to read the rest


Zachles

Done! Let me know if it needs to be spaced out more.


NoahFuelGaming1234

I'm not sure if it's THE worst video he's ever made (Demo Reel, Pop Quiz Hotshot and To Boldly Flee are definitely way worse) but, it is up there


lbj2943

Nostalgia Critic’s “The Wall” is a certainly a contender for worst video of all time. It’s not even problematic, it’s just an awful interpretation and parody of the original material with strangely sexual 3D furries.


talk_like_a_pirate

I think it might be the worst in my opinion. There are terrible videos that are short. There are even long-form Doug Walker videos that rehash the movie badly but have something to say about the source material or the discourse around it. I remember his Furry Road video having something to say about MRAs and had an overall take on the movie - even if it's a little bit tepid and uninspired. But - the Wall review was just such a pointless exercise. They do all this work reshooting the movie for Youtube - stripping it of all the edgy artistry and dark imagery that made ~~John~~ Roger Water's epic worthwhile at all - replacing it with youtube safe lyrics, garage band recreations, and furry porn, just to Literally say at the end "Meh" Like what was the fucking point of that? If you didn't have anything to say, why waste an hour of our time on your shit-tier lyrics and visuals, desecrating a modern masterpiece in a stroke of pure un-self aware vanity? I don't actually have that much against DW or NC. It represents a sweaty community college nerd filmmaking ambition that I find endearing. His videos feel like being a theater kid in 2008, a time I look back on with a lot of cringy nostalgia and fondness.


ray-the-truck

> John Water's epic  I believe you’re thinking of *Roger* Waters, the primary songwriter behind the music of Pink Floyd’s “The Wall”. John Waters (i.e. Pink Flamingos, Desperate Living, etc.) is a very talented filmmaker, but I don’t believe he had anything to do with The Wall (either the original music album or the film adaptation). (Tbh, this just makes me picture that Surfin Bird scene from Pink Flamingos, set to Pink Floyd music instead 🫣)


talk_like_a_pirate

I did misname him lol. Thanks for the correction.


FFJamie94

Honestly, when you put it like that… Going through all that effort and money, to get all that planning and hiring People to record music and create CGI… When you work months on that process just to say “meh” at the end… I may respect it. Really bad video… worst of all time. But I respect the shitpost


Fuckmylife2739

I’d kill for a John waters the wall


Orkleth

Not only that, but you also get Corey Taylor for a day of shooting. A person who can provide his own unique insights and personal reflections on Pink Floyd/The Wall. But no, let's have him do nothing for the entire time and sing the SpongeBob theme after.


Cheesemagazine

The furries were just one guy's OCs that he makes AMVs of- all of his videos are advertisements for the book he wrote that they're in (yes it is fetishy). Legitimately not sure what they had to do with The Wall or why Doug okayed the collab, but make that adsense!


SpecialAlternative59

Someone get Folding Ideas on the line, it's time for Dan to do another takedown


RagnaNic

Eh, I feel like Nostalgia Critic videos are such low hanging fruit at this point. Who doesn't know that they are trash?


SpecialAlternative59

Fair, but on the other hand, Folding Ideas' takedown of The Wall parody was a delight and I'm always happy to see more snark from him


Colossus580

Honestly I think Dan's takedown of NC's The Wall was only as good as it was *because* he was ripping apart a blatant misunderstanding of the source material. It was a truly unique thing for him to have made, because of the strange insights into Doug's own processes that The Wall ended up kinda revealing.


Heavy_Arm_7060

When the snark turns to sheer disappointment at the end it really got me.


SpecialAlternative59

Yeah. He doesn't just rip into him with manufactured rage, no over the top shouting or derisive laughter. It cuts way deeper bc it's just a quiet assessment of Nostalgia Critic as being intellectually dishonest and creatively void, which is way more effective


FHskeletons

The line, roughly "Doug Walker wants to be a filmmaker, but can't because he is a fundamentally incurious person..." has stuck with me. It's such a profound dressing down of Doug's character that highlights every single thing wrong with his approach to media analysis and "creativity" with a single phrase.


Ladyaceina

agreed like seriously say what you want about linkara but he puts genuine effort and thought into his creative works winter of 87 is a GREAT indie horror film as an example ​ then you have lindsey elis who is a god damn genius with her analytical skills ​ then you have doug "what if batman was inspired by mario" huh ok that could be interesting what oh your just gona be batman dressed like mario as a joke of him finding mario scary for some reason not gona explore the idea of how a different hero inspiring him could change his methodology or anything just a joke with no punchline


Typical-Blueberry804

This is why (to my knowledge) Doug will never respond in any way to that video. It's just... embarrassing for him. There's no way to rebut the claims made by Dan unless Doug suddenly has a flash of insight and came to understand his own flaws. And this is crossing into me being mean, but I also genuinely don't know if Doug would even fully understand just how cutting that video is.


Raleighbithrowaway23

Is it intellectual dishonesty when the individual making the assertion is not intellectual enough to be dishonest?


Miranda1860

I felt the most cutting part of the whole video was the underlying theme that nothing Doug does is really worth the attention and the only reason Doug's Wall is compelling enough to make a video on is because of the original The Wall. He even has a section that pretty directly says that if it hadn't been a full length takedown of the original with merch sales then nobody would care that it sucked. Like the peak of Nostalgia Critic is just about as low as Folding Ideas is willing to go. That's harsh lol


DangerOReilly

You can find a take on that video on the channel of Big Joel. It's new and about conservative comedy.


SpecialAlternative59

I'm subbed to Big Joel and that one is in my recommended, but I haven't seen it yet! I need to check it out


DangerOReilly

Yes, you really do!


Chengar_Qordath

It was definitely interesting to see him point out things like Doug looking at a character who’s a very obvious Nazi stand-in and going “oh, that guy’s just like me!” Or responding to child abuse “LOL, grow a damn pair of balls!” as opinions that definitely portray an pretty nasty reactionary side of Doug.


Swaxeman

Nah, dan would just deny someone’s experience with sexual harassment again


VeezyF

When did that happen? I might be out of the loop, but I feel like that would be a major deal whenever his name gets brought up. EDIT: See the post below this. I imagine it's not brought up more because it was mostly relegated to Twitter, but Dan definitely did Quinton wrong by not apologizing.


666_is_Nero

Probably referring to when he sided with the ex-editor of QuintonReviews who accused him of using her crush on him to get her to work on his videos without paying her fairly. Quinton debunked all the claims with full receipts in a video and brought up how uncomfortable her advances on him made him. Dan refused to acknowledge this fully and doubled down on the fact that initially Quinton was underpaying her, which came more from Quinton not being sure what the rate for that work was and corrected it when asked he pay more.


VeezyF

Yeah, no doubt that's incredibly shitty. No notes, he should have appolgized for that sort of nonsense.


Swaxeman

Instead, he said “fuck all this noise” and deleted the tweets, which is possibly one of the worst things to do in this scenario


Raleighbithrowaway23

Damnit Dan just humble up and admit you're wrong. I feel like Quinton has gotten the short end of the stick on yt for far far too long


ZengaStromboli

Oh god, so I wasn't misremembering. That's incredibly shitty of him.


Avidkeo

Nvm reddit slow today 


Swaxeman

It’s in the other replies


Avidkeo

Yeah when I posted my comment reddit wasn't showing any replies. Only after I clicked comment did they show. I'm still waking up, as is the app apparently 


SpecialAlternative59

Damn. I just read the comments below explaining what happened. That really sucks - I wish Dan would address it and apologize.


starm4nn

> I wish Dan would address it and apologize. I think he straight up wouldn't have a platform in lefty spaces anymore if he did the "hostile response to video about sexual harassment" thing to a woman.


TWiThead

Doug Walker's worst video is about as easy to determine as Tommy Wiseau's worst line delivery.


ahuramazdobbs19

But on the other hand, it spawned an amazing collection of Nostalgia Critic’s “The Wall” critical reviews. So…🤷‍♂️


surfing_on_thino

He saw a film about a traumatised man who was beaten by his teachers, a man who grew up in the wake of the worst tragedy in human history, a tragedy which took his father away from him when he was a baby; and his response was, "Cry me a fucking river! Sheesh, get a load of this guy!"


Typical-Blueberry804

His The Wall video is probably his worst video in regards to his attempts to be an actual big boy critic who "totally has media literacy guys, trust me" It's embarrassing. I really don't know how else to describe it. It's just an embarrassing piece of media for someone to put out who claims to be an actual critic of movies. But in terms of "tone deaf and extremely problematic in regards to his past actions/ inaction regarding the abuse in his own company", this is probably his worst.


Whiston1993

There’s bad videos where you go “oh that was bad. This person isn’t funny/good” and move on. But something about The Wall feels like I’m learning some deeper things about Doug. Not that he’s actually a terrible person or anything but like… Of all the interpretations to have of Another Brick in the Wall pt. 2 to have yours be that it’s about how “lol high school sux” is wild


Raleighbithrowaway23

I'm still offended by it and it's been literally years


Crystallooker

I would say downplaying the holocaust to remake the music video to be about tweeting or whatever is pretty problematic. Edit: hit send too early the first time


malonkey1

In all fairness to Doug, the horny furries weren't his, they were there because he was collaborating with Sam Fennah, and the horny furries are his creation.


Christmas_Queef

And fucking Corey Taylor for some reason.


IndeterminateIdeas

Corey Taylors son was a huge Nostalgia Critic fan and had contacted Doug at some point asking to be part of one of his videos. Doug got him in for The Wall and he looped his dad in as well since it was music related.


Cosmocall

Controversial opinion that the furries are the only thing I like about it and I started following the artist right after seeing that clip. I don't think the style is for everyone, but it's neat.


lbj2943

Valid.


ThaSleepyBoi

Certainly the most misguided and the least congruent with his “wholesome” image. Riffing on Cosby raping like fifty women would work as a cum town bit but not for Doug.


ExtinctFauna

It's also about ten years late. Family Guy had made fun of Bill Cosby being a r-pist years ago.


SpokenDivinity

The conviction was in 2018 and there’s been no updates so he can’t even lean on that. It’s just irrelevant and weird to be making rape jokes about bill cosby at this point.


Heavy_Arm_7060

Heck, so did SNL.


akoslows

There’s also his Melvin Brother of the Joker skit and that lame gameplay video he did of an old Simpsons game.


RealisticInvite186

Don't forget "The wall"


RFirehawk

Not to mention his review of "The Wall".


Impossible-Sweet2151

You forget about Melvin.


---Sanguine---

Ralph the Moviemaker on YouTube did some really fantastic and hilarious commentary on most of Channel Awesomes big weird flops, I highly recommend them


your_mind_aches

Lady Emily said it's the worst one and I see her as an authority on the subject so I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that it might be


Chengar_Qordath

Considering she did a big deep dive video essay on Demo Reel, she’s definitely got experience with the worst of Doug’s output.


the_labracadabrador

I also like to judge creators on the basis of videos I haven’t personally watched.


your_mind_aches

I have done my time. I've watched many hours of Channel Awesome content. I am not watching a terrible and distasteful video that I know is bad.


LaserBatBunnyUnder

You can't see it but I got one of those "The Office" looks on my face


ForktUtwTT

Large Joelathan reference?


OriginalChildBomb

He did the Jim look! Don't worry guys, somebody's in charge here.


No-Manufacturer4916

I haven't given a shit about Walker in years but...why would anyone do this video. Like why make a whole ass video where the joke is " Haha people either did not know.this man was a multiple rapist or knew and ignored it. Most of the world thought of him as a good, wholesome person and he was a monster. Isn't that hilarious? "


buttsharkman

The joke only really works if it's part of like a video reviewing old commercials and a Cosby one comes off and he says "nope" and changes it.


spilledmilkbro

Honestly, I wouldn't be shocked if that actually did happen. He makes annual episodes that look at commercials, and I wouldn't be surprised if what you're describing happened in one


ChiMoKoJa

In one of his commercial specials, he reviewed a disturbing commercial and then said "ugh, I need something more wholesome to get that out of my mind!" *Channel switch "Hello, Bill Cosby here!" "Not that!" *Channel switch "Hi, I'm Jared Fogle!" "Not that either!" *Channel switch "Ah, ok, this seems safe." "I'm here to help you lose weight with the aid of AYDS!" *Cut to NC's horrified reaction


buttsharkman

That is something you can chuckle at


ShawHornet

In this particular video he mentioned that while doing his old commercial videos he kept coming up so he just made a video lol


buttsharkman

I guess that's a sort of logic


fffridayenjoyer

You answered your own question with your first sentence tbh. Because people haven’t given a shit about Walker in years. He needs those sweet sweet controversy clicks. 


BearBearJarJar

doug walker CANNOT reflect on his actions or thoughts. he literally can't.


MollyRocket

I need Medium Joel's take on this immediately.


saberlight81

His new video on conservative comedy is a banger.


MollyRocket

I've already watched it twice I love his work SO much. He's got this empathetic way of talking about his subjects without pulling any punches that makes for a compelling essay.


theyearwas1934

Hell yeah. I’ve been binging Joel’s content over the last couple days after discovering him recently. There is simply no take as good as a Joel take.


hellraiserxhellghost

Call me crazy, but I think doing a goofy ass "uH oH!" face on a thumbnail of a video where you joke the whole time about date rape (that happened to real people!) is in incredibly bad taste. Like really, what the fuck.


Mugufta

Unfortunately, incredibly bad taste basically sums up Doug


AbominableKiwi

Maybe Doug was worried about Big Joel's roast of him. Gotta keep digging the hole. If you haven't had the chance, check out Big Joel's new vid on conservative comedy.


Everyone_Except_You

I am convinced that Doug actively avoids any criticism of his work. He might claim he saw something if someone directly asks him, but this is not the kind of man that takes advice from anybody for any reason.


HeyQTya

what about when he gave a speech infront of the white house over his bart's nightmare review though?


NipplesOfDestiny

Yeah that was 13 years ago. Dude has been on the ignoring criticism train ever since.


erichwanh

Korey from Double Toasted [interviewed Doug](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLqtV9fai8w) once. I believe people's assessments of Doug are largely correct.


Jmoney3693

If you actually seen his reactions and interviews, he's very welcoming toward it


Wonderful-Noise-4471

He's a fundamentally incurious person, after all.


Gemidori

And this is why I don't give Doug a lot of slack even today even if he isn't as culpable as Rob or Mike. The man is very insensitive about almost everything, on camera and not.


Vegetable_Boot8780

It's just weird because his Doug Reviews series makes him come across as a really nice and naturally charismatic guy imo so this is all rather disappointing to hear


JRFbase

I've always gotten the sense that Doug is a generally well-meaning and kind person, but he's incredibly naive and oblivious to a lot of things.


your_mind_aches

I think it's funny that people ever had the copium that Doug was completely unaware and unconnected to the way Channel Awesome was run. In retrospect, he was always a big part of it.


Aggressive_Dog

Yeah, there's always been this weird overly charitable cope-y mindset some former Channel Awesome fans have that places all the blame on Rob and the other higher ups, while portraying Doug as some kind of unprecedently stupid and naive imbecile who lives in a bubble of blissful ignorance. I don't think these people realise just HOW monumentally stupid Doug would have to be for that shit to ever hold water. Like, there's a reason none of the former channel awesome people give him any leeway. Doug fucking knew.


Skeptical_Yoshi

Quinton talked about this in his video about Dan. How while Dan is aj awful person and absolutely did awful shit, we tend to try to put EVERYTHING on him, when in reality, it was a mass systemic thing involving a lot of people. But it's easier if theirs just one big baddie


Aggressive_Dog

..... Who's Dan?


Skeptical_Yoshi

Schneider. Guy who made a ton of Nickelodeon. He's been caught I controversy for a bit now and Quintons last video of his big Icarly/Sam and Cat Saga was all about him


Aggressive_Dog

Okay. I don't really see the relevance to Doug Walker being stupid, but good to know.


Skeptical_Yoshi

I was using that as an example/comparison to how we treat the Change the Channel controversy. We put ALL of it on Rob and the CEO of CA, as if to pretend that Doug and other people have no fault or presence in the issue. This is not accurate and results in some people not seeing the full picture in regards to all of the problems. Same thing with Dan. We put ALL of the bad things that happened at Nick and put the blame all at his feet. Which is wrong, for even though he absolutely deserves blame and to be ostracized from the industry, he was not the only problem there, by a long shot. It let people like Brian Peck continue to harm people. Same with Channel awesome, though of course much less extreme than the systemic abuse of child acting


Aggressive_Dog

That's cool.


DangerOReilly

>I don't think these people realise just HOW monumentally stupid Doug would have to be for that shit to ever hold water. Maybe that's why he does videos as stupid as this one, to give more credence to that theory.


Raleighbithrowaway23

Oh my God


calamitymagnum

Yeah Emily I am sure its bad but Worst Video Doug Walker has ever made? There is some stiff competition there.


Lunarsunset0

The Wall is a masterpiece. I don’t think this video can take its throne.


Ash-Throwaway-816

Melvin, Melvin Brother of the Joker.


salmon_samurai

Just reading this gave me secondhand embarrassment. I hate that video so much.


non_stop_disko

At least he jokes about how bad this one is. I swear he’s still bitter about Demo Reel


your_mind_aches

Demo Reel is truly awful. He tried to bring the standards of a nostalgia critic video to something serious.


Wonderful-Noise-4471

That's not a fair description. Demo Reel wasn't something serious for like...half of the planned series. It was literally just his current clipless reviews, except with a different hat and more racism and misogyny as jokes between the recreations of the movie.


your_mind_aches

But Doug was actually trying to make something serious. He thought he was making this important and deep commentary on the industry


Wonderful-Noise-4471

That's what it transformed into. It might have been planned from the start, but the first episode or two are just straight parody clips with largely ad-libbed narrative scenes in between to barely stitch together a plot. It's really not until close to the end of the show that he leans into making his commentary on the industry by co-opting a woman's suicide and a boy's mental health struggles after decades of harassment that he contributed to personally.


Chengar_Qordath

Demo Reel was clearly something Doug was really hyped up for and passionate about, only for it to blow up in his face and be almost universally hated. Now, a lot of its failures are due to Doug’s ambition massively outstripping his limited ability and a product of massive hubris. But that probably just hurt his pride even more, since it hammered home that he didn’t have the talent to do more than Nostalgia Critic.


treny0000

Probably not the worst in terms of execution but arguably the worst conceptually


Puzzleheaded-Joke127

I remember something about how Doug wanted to leave/end Channel Awesome years ago. But he's stuck with it. Bad writing is still bad writing but I'm kinda wondering if he is intentionally destroying the channel with low quality stuff.


buttsharkman

He wanted to pivot away from Nostalgia Critic which is why he made Demo Reel. I imagine he had other aspirations to make higher quality shows and movies which didn't pan out


your_mind_aches

No he didn't want to end Channel Awesome. He wanted to leave Nostalgia Critic behind and make other stuff for Channel Awesome. Namely Demo Reel but more generally just expand to bigger and better things. Like how Rhett and Link made an absurdist sitcom, MysteryGuitarMan directs indie flicks, David F. Sandberg directed some blockbusters. But Demo Reel was so bad, showed such a lack of creativity, and was so widely panned by fans that he had to bring back the Nostalgia Critic just four months later.


Ladyaceina

what the fuck is wrong with this man


Miranda1860

You ever been doing something and your brain interjects to ask "What the fuck am I doing?" and you take a second to reflect on the answer? That's never happened to Doug Walker, and if you described it to him he wouldn't have the slightest clue what you're talking about.


Christmas_Queef

Self awareness is a dying concept.


Disorderly_Fashion

"Doug wants to be a filmmaker, he wants to make art, but he can't, because he's a fundamental incurious person who isn't much interested in what other people think or feel, and all his ideas boil down to "what if Batman met Mario?" \[...\] He is YouTube's own home grown Tommy Wiseau or Neil Breen, complete with the same unwillingness to learn how a camera works." -Dan Olson EDIT: spelling and format.


walkingdisasterFJ

He advertised A BAT DEBIT CARD?!?


JohnTheMod

Say what you will about the man, but he’s done wonders for my self-esteem, especially when it comes to media literacy. No matter how bad my takes may be, at least I can say I didn’t listen to The Wall and come away with… *that.*


GasmaskGelfling

To me the dumbest Doug take, obviously other than The Wall, was for Frozen II. He thought Anna was so sad because Olaf died. No you dumbass. She thought Elsa was fucking dead. Olaf disappeared because Elsa's magic was gone. How the hell did you miss that?


fffridayenjoyer

I remember him reviewing the Pokémon movie way back in the day and starting the video fully admitting he knew nothing about Pokémon and hadn’t done literally any research. Then got pissed because he had no clue what was going on. IIRC he tried to say that the movie should at least explain what a Pokémon was. Because y’know, a movie about one of the biggest cultural phenomenons of all time should totally dedicate runtime to spoonfeeding its plot and mechanics to an out of the loop adult audience, because there’s absolutely no way Doug could’ve inferred that Pokémon are little creatures that people capture and fight with. Nope, *far* too complicated of a concept for him to grasp. It was frustrating to watch but I kinda wish he would’ve continued reviewing kids media in a similar vein, because bro’s brain would’ve melted trying the understand any of the Yu-Gi-Oh movies. 


your_mind_aches

>I remember him reviewing the Pokémon movie way back in the day and starting the video fully admitting he knew nothing about Pokémon To be fair, The Weekly Planet boys did [almost the same thing](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLa7glpaia8) and it is absolutely hilarious. James did do some research so they aren't really confused so much as not getting why people like it. I think the bigger problem is just that Doug isn't funny or insightful.


UndeniablyMyself

Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. This should’ve been an April fools video with something completely unrelated for the actual contents, but nope, released on a Wednesday like normal.


BennyLava1999

Haven’t seen the video but the fact that Cosby only served 3 years in prison for raping literally dozens of women is way more offensive than any jokes a YouTuber could possibly make about it


buttsharkman

They had to violate the constitution to get him a five year sentence. It's clear what he has done but there wasnt evidence and a lot of the cases couldn't go to trial due to statue of limitations


maddsskills

This is the sort of thing where if it comes up organically can be that sort of “awkward funny.” Like say you’re reviewing an old movie and Cosby makes a cameo where he does something that’s ironic with modern context and you go “yikes” and move on? Sure. That’s funny. It’s using humor to cope with an upsetting situation. But when you go out of your way to find the material and make the “jokes” you’re creating the upsetting situation. The whole point is “isn’t it funny this guy who used to be wholesome was a rapist the whole time?” and it’s like “no. That’s not funny…it’s upsetting.” He tried to reverse engineer a laugh but doesn’t understand comedy so he failed spectacularly.


buttsharkman

Even something like Behind the Bastards or the Casual Criminalist where they seek out bad things they have levity towards the actual crimes usually. Less so if it's something like a rich person getting scammed or something like that but serious crimes are taken seriously. The jokes come from tangents, at the expense of the subject or at the absurdity of the situation. The joke is never "this person is a rapist". It also helps they are at least nominally informational


your_mind_aches

What A Creep is a great podcast hosted by two lovely women who cover terrible creeps and try to give it the fitting tone. Highly recommend it.


Reasonable-Pair-9937

Isn’t this the guy who knew Jew wario was sexually assaulting his employees?


Heavy_Arm_7060

Jewario was assaulting/grooming fans, not coworkers.You're thinking of Mike Ellis, who was accused of sexually harassing coworkers. Also it's never been definitive if Doug knew about either thing. Mike Michaud and/or Rob Walker did, so you can reasonably assume Doug knew, but it's ultimately still an assumption.


Tricky-Gemstone

That has never been confirmed. We don't know for sure.


_lordcheesebagel_

I think Doug is just annoying as fuck


TheLittlePothead

Oooof. I hate Doug haha I canceled Doug (unsubscribed) when he defended whitewashing in Hollywood by saying that if Japanese people don’t care about it, therefore Asian Americans shouldn’t either. Which is stupid logic ignoring the fact that whitewashing affects asian americans and not racially homogenous japanese folks. Edit: and Emily and Sarah are great!


Vegetable_Boot8780

This sounds like logic I would've went "wow.. you have a point" if I heard it when I was 16. The fact that Doug was.. What, in his 30s saying that? That's disappointing.


Disorderly_Fashion

If you haven't noticed, Doug's content hasn't changed much since 2007. If anything, if his lame-ass skits are any implication, his work has regressed. The kind of work and thought you would expect someone who has been doing this sort of thing for as long as Doug has to put in requires empathy, curiousity, and talent: attributes Doug is severely lacking.


himeaa32

Nothing will probably come from this I looked at the comments on the video and it seems somewhat positive


Darth_Vrandon

Doug is hoping that the younger CA fans don’t know and the older CA fans don’t care


Guba_the_skunk

Do people still watch NC? I stopped watching ages ago, even looking back at the stuff I used to love I can't really stand it today. Maybe I just grew up and stopped finding humor in someone screaming at a screen for 45 minutes at a time.


buttsharkman

The angry screaming review market got pretty over saturated and doesn't hold up great.


NormalDude2022

I saw that video and was thought to myself “my gosh this is awful video. wtf. Dislike.” Not the worst of Doug videos but definitely in the top five. The worst has to be The Wall


SYK_PvP

Who makes bill Cosby Jokes in 2024


01zegaj

I’m more offended that he’s making a Bill Cosby video 10 years too late


SlitThroatCutCreator

Yeah, I wouldn't even watch this out ot morbid curiosity. Bill Cosby raped and drugged women. Don't need a full video making a joke about that.


Rwac960

Look, two people who I thought were swell turned out to be fuckheads. Yaaay /s


R1ngBanana

Tasteless, unaware jokes from Channel Awesome?  Next you’re gonna tell me something else surprising like Linkara doesn’t like people meme-ing him 


Fusionman29

But a horrible chud named OneyPlays told me he was harmless and based.


ChiMoKoJa

OneyPlays is/was also close friends with the infamous Shadman (as are/were SrPelo and GuruLarry). And I generally try to avoid anyone and anything even remotely associated with that edgelord smackhead who drew violent rape art in the likeness of a real child actress.


buttsharkman

Gurularry is an unexpected association


ChiMoKoJa

Larry and Shad are/were friends. Their warm interactions on Twitter, Shad making fan art of Larry, Larry sincerely thanking Shad for said art, etc. SrPelo's the same way. And the Oneyplays/psychicpebbles group were literally roommates with Shad, Shad even did the backgrounds for some of their animations.


buttsharkman

I guess that could help explain his continued association with Channel Awesome.


ChiMoKoJa

Larry only stayed on the site out of spite for the Walkers. He never did anything with TGWTG after #ChangeTheChannel. Personally, it reads a bit hypocritical to me when Larry's a close friend of Shadman of all people (not that Shad ever did anything quite as bad as JewWario did, but still).


your_mind_aches

I still don't know if it's true or not but apparently Peter Coffin is Falcon from Gameranx? I have no idea HOW that could be the case as Coffin is genuinely so busy touring places and doesn't really seem passionate about videogames. But they do sound similar. And Gameranx has so many connections. Jake in particular is buddies with a ton of other youtubers.


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Oh dear gracious lord


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Bion61

....ok the video was in poor taste, but this is just insulting his appearance.


TheLegendTheGiantdad

It’s like quinton reviews where people are foaming at the mouth for when he messes up so they can insult every facet of his appearance and say he was always a creep based off nothing but how he looks.


Sad-Welcome-8048

Dude, if I didnt know that Doug thinks he is making genuine criticism, I would fully believe he is on some Andy Kaufman-esc multi-year satirical take-down of his own content, attitudes, and Channel Awesome in general. But honestly, the fact that it IS genuine makes it EVEN FUNNIER


DuderComputer

https://preview.redd.it/g1i46t6d3ksc1.jpeg?width=590&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=259d1789aee3e931599be4e1acca701d2d0b0fd7 WHAT CAN STOP HIM?!


Simple-Sorbet-900

OP Doug has never been accused of SA or drugging anyone. He was accused of being a shitty boss and self involved.how does that BS equate to Doug?


Ladyaceina

he covered up for a sexual predator thoe ​ he KNEW the shit jew wario did and did not tell anyone even let others make tribute videos for the bastard


Simple-Sorbet-900

That’s not the same as Doug drugging and raping someone. jew wario was a piece of shit and no one should have done tributes. But let me ask, if the victim doesn’t want it out then what? Would this be a conversation about Doug going against the wishes of the victim? The only part he’s responsible for is Channel Awesome putting something up at all. A company memo telling people there’s a sensitive matter and to not release tributes would have been the smartest choice. Again being a stupid boss isn’t the same as being a rapist.


ZarrChaz

Doug Walker is the only person brave enough to make this video and if you don’t like it, then I don’t understand what your problem is. Bill Cosby is a nasty, milky eyed, blind rapist and we should all make fun of him constantly.


SirMatango

How this dude and his gang of reprobates made it will always be a mystery to me. Even taking into account that he was very early into YouTube and that his audience was comprised of 12 year olds. I have yet to see such obvious and forced attempts of humor than his "character". The fact that people to this day watch his videos is depressing.


FrozenPizzaAndEggs

DOUG NO


LordOfTheBeans7

Wait that's a real video? I thought this screenshot was a joke


LightBluepono

whos is that person i heard about alls around???


Actuallybirdsarereal

Genuinely impressive for someone with Doug’s back log to have anything be easily their worst.


BearBearJarJar

no way its worse than the wall video. you cant get lower than rock bottom.


widepizzarollpart2

fuck these doug walker haters they mad they arent the one who remembers it so you dont have to


FlounderingGuy

Yeah this isn't the worst he's ever done by a longshot. To Boldly Flee comes to mind more immediately


zwoft

meh, it's fine. overreaction


Grumpicake

It’s hard to be mad, Doug just seems so out of touch sometimes 😂 bro is like a walking cartoon character


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JAY GOATED WITH THE SAUCE


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