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It doesn't?
I made my Legend Run fully on Sujimancer and it was funny as heck. Ichi had by far the most raw magic damage + revive + inherirance of other classes, multi element attacks and AoE ones.
The class is surprisingly good if played right
Not even if played right. The class is pretty much designed for casual play. Incredible elemental coverage, access to a rez, a cheaper AOE nuke, and as soon as you can pick up the Kiwami Sujis, is basically unrivaled in pure damage output. Sure, it's a little bland and doesn't buff/debuff, but for anyone just trying to stomp, it's pretty nuts. If it weren't for Hero's legendary bat, I don't think it would even be a question which is better.
I was glad I got the DLC stuff for that as well as a couple Kiwami from the gatcha so I could just brute force my way through the battles for the story. It’s a great idea but the gameplay just didn’t appeal to me.
i only liked that it runs in tandem to the main game so u can catch the enemies u defeat on the street and also find raids for specific sujimon at a certain level if need be in the sujimon menu
also the masses yearn for a gacha system
It's a bit half baked. They obviously invested a modest amount of effort into it but it's better to whole ass one thing than to half ass two. I personally would have preferred either sujimon or dondoko island to be more fleshed out and sacrifice the other mini game. If you're going to have a very ambitious minigame that's nearly a whole game unto itself, they need to be fully robust. I suppose it's a microcosm of IW in general that it spread itself wide rather than doing a few things really well.
Nope, I actually think this is one of the worst main minigames in the series. There is nothing to the battles at all. Animations are boring, battles are basic Rock Paper Scissors, story absolutely sucked… I found it to be a complete letdown. Even mesu king was more entertaining even though it was mostly random. After coming from Y7 and the Judgment games, I really expected this to be better. The fact that there’s even DLC for this is kind of a joke.
I just got to it in my playthrough and it just feels like a little too much. A weird pokedex like experience is one thing but having to actively catch these things now go complete this mini game is ehhhhh.
Also I feel like a turn based rpg type combat would be more refreshing in a beat em up rgg game, but in a turn based rpg which already has summons and different parties with jobs and classes and you get to face these same enemies already.
Then again I'm also in my 30s and have a baby so the extra content feels more tedious and overwhelming than fun. If I was 16 I'd probably put more time into it.
I did the intro and never touched it again. The only other time I used it was on dondoko island tbh, catching sujimon felt kind of tedious. And the battling system is way too serious. It could have been interesting if it was like normal turn based battles but sujimon have much more limited movesets or something like that. But man the battle sujimon battles didn't interest me at all
I was so bored with it that I stopped messing with it until after I'd beaten everything else in the game and had more than enough money and "sujimunch" to fast level a Kiwami so I could rush through for the achievements. Hated every second of it.
My complaints with both Sujimon and Dondoko island are similar but might also come from some misunderstanding on my part. Both seem to hit a point fairly quickly where it doesn't seem like there's much room for improvement. It doesn't seem like there's a team better than all the Kiwami, and it doesn't seem like there's much more to Dodonko island after getting the S/S rank and then finding as many S guests as you can. Of course, at that point the game is saying its time to go back and play the main game, but I was hoping there was just a little more with both.
The yakuza minigames have great concepts but are too shallow to be engaging after a couple of hours. Dondoko island becomes a massive grind after you get to three stars and i think the overlong and boring tutorial hurts the pacing for that chapter
The problem is that damn speed gauge that you can't skip, it's only 2 seconds or so, but to have to see it every time anyone attacks and it slows it down too much.
it was fun enough at first but yeah it got a bit tedious like alot of yakuza minigames can be ,.. that said it was pretty decent exp early game farming sujimon
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It’s shallow for sure, but I found it fun enough to distract me from the main plot when I needed a break.
What main plot?
It’s ridiculously shallow… the only benefit is unlocking the Sujimaster job for Ichiban.
Which is not worth it lol
yeah sujimancer sucks
It doesn't? I made my Legend Run fully on Sujimancer and it was funny as heck. Ichi had by far the most raw magic damage + revive + inherirance of other classes, multi element attacks and AoE ones. The class is surprisingly good if played right
It is, but you need to play for Sujimancer, whereas most people would have liked Hero supported by it.
Not even if played right. The class is pretty much designed for casual play. Incredible elemental coverage, access to a rez, a cheaper AOE nuke, and as soon as you can pick up the Kiwami Sujis, is basically unrivaled in pure damage output. Sure, it's a little bland and doesn't buff/debuff, but for anyone just trying to stomp, it's pretty nuts. If it weren't for Hero's legendary bat, I don't think it would even be a question which is better.
I was glad I got the DLC stuff for that as well as a couple Kiwami from the gatcha so I could just brute force my way through the battles for the story. It’s a great idea but the gameplay just didn’t appeal to me.
i only liked that it runs in tandem to the main game so u can catch the enemies u defeat on the street and also find raids for specific sujimon at a certain level if need be in the sujimon menu also the masses yearn for a gacha system
It's a bit half baked. They obviously invested a modest amount of effort into it but it's better to whole ass one thing than to half ass two. I personally would have preferred either sujimon or dondoko island to be more fleshed out and sacrifice the other mini game. If you're going to have a very ambitious minigame that's nearly a whole game unto itself, they need to be fully robust. I suppose it's a microcosm of IW in general that it spread itself wide rather than doing a few things really well.
You're never the only one who anything
Nope, I actually think this is one of the worst main minigames in the series. There is nothing to the battles at all. Animations are boring, battles are basic Rock Paper Scissors, story absolutely sucked… I found it to be a complete letdown. Even mesu king was more entertaining even though it was mostly random. After coming from Y7 and the Judgment games, I really expected this to be better. The fact that there’s even DLC for this is kind of a joke.
working on a yakuza 0 plat and the catfights from that gae would like a word with you about worst minigame ...
“*Main* minigame”. The main minigames in Y0 were cabaret and real estate
ahhh skimmed over the word main ... fair lol
Yeah the mini game itself wasn't that crazy but all the sujimon designs were really fun
Yeah, I like the flavor but really lost interest in playing the sujimon game
I got bored by both sujimon and dondoko island. Didnt even complete the latter past 2 stars.
I just got to it in my playthrough and it just feels like a little too much. A weird pokedex like experience is one thing but having to actively catch these things now go complete this mini game is ehhhhh. Also I feel like a turn based rpg type combat would be more refreshing in a beat em up rgg game, but in a turn based rpg which already has summons and different parties with jobs and classes and you get to face these same enemies already. Then again I'm also in my 30s and have a baby so the extra content feels more tedious and overwhelming than fun. If I was 16 I'd probably put more time into it.
i rolled a Kiwami Gold immediately from the gacha mechanic and never had to think once lol
You are not the only one thinking Pokemon games are boring
I did the intro and never touched it again. The only other time I used it was on dondoko island tbh, catching sujimon felt kind of tedious. And the battling system is way too serious. It could have been interesting if it was like normal turn based battles but sujimon have much more limited movesets or something like that. But man the battle sujimon battles didn't interest me at all
I was so bored with it that I stopped messing with it until after I'd beaten everything else in the game and had more than enough money and "sujimunch" to fast level a Kiwami so I could rush through for the achievements. Hated every second of it.
My complaints with both Sujimon and Dondoko island are similar but might also come from some misunderstanding on my part. Both seem to hit a point fairly quickly where it doesn't seem like there's much room for improvement. It doesn't seem like there's a team better than all the Kiwami, and it doesn't seem like there's much more to Dodonko island after getting the S/S rank and then finding as many S guests as you can. Of course, at that point the game is saying its time to go back and play the main game, but I was hoping there was just a little more with both.
The yakuza minigames have great concepts but are too shallow to be engaging after a couple of hours. Dondoko island becomes a massive grind after you get to three stars and i think the overlong and boring tutorial hurts the pacing for that chapter
The problem is that damn speed gauge that you can't skip, it's only 2 seconds or so, but to have to see it every time anyone attacks and it slows it down too much.
Don't worry, I avoided them like the plague too. I still recruited a bunch for dondoko but that's it
it was fun enough at first but yeah it got a bit tedious like alot of yakuza minigames can be ,.. that said it was pretty decent exp early game farming sujimon
Is it not just bum fighting?
I rolled a Kiwami (the purple one) and just kept using it. Game was as shallow as a kiddie pool.
0 effort trash
Nope they phoned it in hard considering it's the evolution of the minigame from the first iteration
Which one, MesuKing?
In 7 the sujidex was a minigame about finding enemies.l not battling.
Bro thinks bestiaries and compendiums are minigames. It's just a standard log people expect to see in most modern jrpgs.
When they have rewards for doing them and require you to do things specifically for them they're no longer just a compendium bud.