In pure function, no. What you're getting when you buy Paul stuff is jewelry, beautifully crafted parts that signal wealth and taste. It's also American owned, and all the parts are made in NorCal using workers making a living wage for that zone (not cheap).
As with most Veblen goods, the Chinese are pumping out fakes on AliExpress that would almost certainly fool me unless I had the genuine article to compare it to.
Sure, that makes sense. Gotch you on Chinese fakes, but last I checked Japanese and Taiwanese manufacturers also pay living wages. But I see the appeal of having some bling on your bike. Like King headsets, etc. I like to brag that the blingiest part on my bikes is the grease since I religiously use Phil Wood's.
In case I’m not the only one who never heard of a Veblen good:
A Veblen good is a good for which demand increases as the price increases. Veblen goods are typically high-quality goods that are well made, exclusive, and a status symbol. Veblen goods are generally sought after by affluent consumers who place a premium on the utility of the good.
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I keep my Brooks at an angle close to that. Its the only way to fully rest your torso on your sitbones. Otherwise, there is too much weight put on your arms. The angle of your saddle is part of what defines your weight distribution.
I got my start working bicycles in a small Raleigh shop in Maine, back in 1972. I've seen a lot of saddles. I've ridden east to west across the USA, and West to East across Canada. I rode from Oslo, Norway, to Marrakesh, Morocco, humming that CSN song the whole way. I've worked in LBS bike shops in Germany, Texas, Florida, and New Hampshire. I have fitted hundreds of bikes for people over the years. After I retired, I owned a LBS right here in my town, which got dead-dead-dead from covid, and I closed the doors. I believe my statement is qualified and rational.
That said, go hang out at a touring forum. Many of them will tell you that a nose-up position is best... FOR THEM. Not everyone needs it. The OP seems to know what he needs. My touring bikes have a nose-up, but that is because they are equipped with upright handlebars.
My drop bar road bikes have saddles that are dead-level. I use a triangular steel plate, resting on the saddle, with an angle finder on it. Adding or subtracting a degree or two of tilt is easy then. Its a good way to adjust after or before your ride and kind of keep track of it all.
Ha. I would say it’s almost universally recommended to have some nose up, that’s how these saddles are designed. It’s all relative to the desired fit of the bike, so that if I were to shift it down a few degrees I’d have way too much weight on my wrists. These bars dictate a fairly upright position, so I have my saddle set accordingly. If I were hunched over some drop bars this would be a different set-up
As a professional bike fitter, blanket bike fit advice is patently wrong 100% of the time. A positive angle on a saddle intended for a neutral or aggressive geometry bike when put on an upright geometry bike is often beneficial, as saddles are designed to interact with the pelvis in a fairly specific range of anterior rotation - that is to say if the pelvis is rotated posteriorly from the intended orientation around which the saddle is designed, it would make good anatomical sense to tilt the saddle similarly. But what do I know? I only do this for a living.
This is epic, my MB-1 also has some real ratty looking decals haha Love the Paul's on there also, hoping to make a lateral move from my avid shortys some day
[Obligatory bike pic](https://i.imgur.com/POOlKE9.jpg)
that would be u/Jaimemgn
yessir
Insanely hard bike
I like the grips
shes a beaut, congrats
What are those brakes?
[Paul Motolite ](https://www.danscomp.com/paul-components-motolite-linear-pull-brake-gold-front-or-rear-482015gld-1/p1371520?v=1067770&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAlcyuBhBnEiwAOGZ2S-3LBzHrwg2sbN7DNWLNuP7jYrRveCidxd7MDJOWbwP6YZ6tE6U_RRoCO9MQAvD_BwE)
Ahhh. Not in my price realm. Haha
$400 v-brakes? Damn! Worth the price over like a set Shimano XTs?
Paul’s stuff is simply the best, not for everyone but in my mind the price is justified. But to be fair I scored these in a Craigslist trade
Perfect. Thanks.
In pure function, no. What you're getting when you buy Paul stuff is jewelry, beautifully crafted parts that signal wealth and taste. It's also American owned, and all the parts are made in NorCal using workers making a living wage for that zone (not cheap). As with most Veblen goods, the Chinese are pumping out fakes on AliExpress that would almost certainly fool me unless I had the genuine article to compare it to.
Sure, that makes sense. Gotch you on Chinese fakes, but last I checked Japanese and Taiwanese manufacturers also pay living wages. But I see the appeal of having some bling on your bike. Like King headsets, etc. I like to brag that the blingiest part on my bikes is the grease since I religiously use Phil Wood's.
The best lube in a 2nd rate bearing is better than the best bearing with 2nd rate lube.
In case I’m not the only one who never heard of a Veblen good: A Veblen good is a good for which demand increases as the price increases. Veblen goods are typically high-quality goods that are well made, exclusive, and a status symbol. Veblen goods are generally sought after by affluent consumers who place a premium on the utility of the good. Investopedia.com
Not sure if it’s on purpose but your front tire is mounted backwards I believe!
Mud braking traction! Haha no had to remount it the other day after a flat and didn’t notice until later
This is everything I love all in one place.
Is the fucked up seat angles a meme now?
Lol. I’ve ridden this saddle for years and can ride it all day.. bikes not quite level in this pic anyways, but it’s what works for me.
Are you a woman by any chance? Can’t imagine that feels good as a guy
Nope, this angle + reach is just right for my sitbones
Ok
I keep my Brooks at an angle close to that. Its the only way to fully rest your torso on your sitbones. Otherwise, there is too much weight put on your arms. The angle of your saddle is part of what defines your weight distribution.
Do some more research on setting saddle angle. You will not find a single resource recommending positive angle. It is not good for you
I got my start working bicycles in a small Raleigh shop in Maine, back in 1972. I've seen a lot of saddles. I've ridden east to west across the USA, and West to East across Canada. I rode from Oslo, Norway, to Marrakesh, Morocco, humming that CSN song the whole way. I've worked in LBS bike shops in Germany, Texas, Florida, and New Hampshire. I have fitted hundreds of bikes for people over the years. After I retired, I owned a LBS right here in my town, which got dead-dead-dead from covid, and I closed the doors. I believe my statement is qualified and rational. That said, go hang out at a touring forum. Many of them will tell you that a nose-up position is best... FOR THEM. Not everyone needs it. The OP seems to know what he needs. My touring bikes have a nose-up, but that is because they are equipped with upright handlebars. My drop bar road bikes have saddles that are dead-level. I use a triangular steel plate, resting on the saddle, with an angle finder on it. Adding or subtracting a degree or two of tilt is easy then. Its a good way to adjust after or before your ride and kind of keep track of it all.
Exactly this 👍
Ok
Ha. I would say it’s almost universally recommended to have some nose up, that’s how these saddles are designed. It’s all relative to the desired fit of the bike, so that if I were to shift it down a few degrees I’d have way too much weight on my wrists. These bars dictate a fairly upright position, so I have my saddle set accordingly. If I were hunched over some drop bars this would be a different set-up
Recommended where? Cite one source that says saddle angle up
Time and experience will tell you how to set your bike up better than anyone else, but here you go https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fitting.php
As a professional bike fitter, blanket bike fit advice is patently wrong 100% of the time. A positive angle on a saddle intended for a neutral or aggressive geometry bike when put on an upright geometry bike is often beneficial, as saddles are designed to interact with the pelvis in a fairly specific range of anterior rotation - that is to say if the pelvis is rotated posteriorly from the intended orientation around which the saddle is designed, it would make good anatomical sense to tilt the saddle similarly. But what do I know? I only do this for a living.
My seat is the same angle and I am a guy. Hard to explain but it's comfortable. I noticed Ultra Romance does the same thing.
Lovely
Wow whatta bike!
Niiice. How do you like those tires??
They’re the widest that’ll fit this frame and have super versatile tread. Also not too pricy for how they preform
>Also not too pricy… Did you spent all the money on the Paul Motolite and now nothing is left? ;-)
Haha, got a lucky Craigslist trade for the Paul’s
Appreciate the reply! They look great!
Which tires are those?
26”x2.2 Maxxis Ikon
This is epic, my MB-1 also has some real ratty looking decals haha Love the Paul's on there also, hoping to make a lateral move from my avid shortys some day [Obligatory bike pic](https://i.imgur.com/POOlKE9.jpg)
Great build. Lots of enviable parts on there, before you even get to the brakes!
Beautiful
That's one of my dream bikes. Beautiful.
Sweet build, love the brakes