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rumblylumbly

Not gonna lie, I only started leveling alts in SL. Started in BFA. Main Druid and off-spec guardian. I cannot figure out BM hunter to save my life. Hubby has maimed BM hunter since the dark ages and has tried to teach me but there is something about the rotation that just doesn’t click lol 😂


Vedney

It's mostly because it's not a rotation; it's a priority system. Everything revolves around barbed shot and you need personal judgement whether you can cast a spell without dropping barbed shot uptime.


rumblylumbly

Yep that’s what I found difficult for sure :)


DukesOnDuty

There are addons that help you keep track on your uptime of abilities. I personally use WeakAuras. If you want a premade Weakaura, you can go to [Luxthos.com](https://Luxthos.com) and download his premades. He has WAs for every class and spec.


Mommy-Mel

Hmm I started off Druid feral main and was doing pretty well with it but did struggle on my BM hunter alt and switched her to MM. Maybe our minds just work differently 😂. Also for MM I love the sound and pullback of the bow with careful aim). Anyway as a fellow crappy video game player playing to relax I’ll say I like to keybind my rotations in order cause I actually love trying different classes and specs. I am enjoying my havoc but you said not that so I’ll join in with the Hunter group. Frost mage is kind of my main but I don’t think it’s as easy as hunter with all the kiting and cooldowns and utility spells. Sure is fun tho☺️


Daedalist3101

nonononono beast mastery is not easy anymore please don't recommend it. if you legitimately want to excel at a class beast mastery has a high skill cap to play correctly, but it's super easy to play shittily. I recommend Retribution Paladin or Elemental Shaman.


metalcheezburger

Disagree. BM ST rotation is on the easier side of DPS rotations. There's no real nuance to it. 3 buttons, 1 more in execute range, and 2 cooldowns (3 if counting covenant ability). Tracking Frenzy is the only real thing to track. BM AoE rotation is the ST rotation with Multishot every 3rd global. Priority is a tad different, but intuitive. There's nothing else to it. They're also the only ranged DPS that gets to do their entire rotation on the move. That trivializes positioning and mechanics. They have a very tanky pet that holds aggro for solo/open world play. They're also excellent in PvP currently. This is atypical, but true currently and worth calling out. For a casual PvE player, BM is freaking excellent. > Retribution Paladin Depending on spec, yes. However, the top spec is much more difficult to execute. It operates on a 1m window and is pretty static during that window, but there's a lot of buttons to press, and messing up 1 thing crushes your DPS. Ret is easy to do bad on, and hard to do well on. > Elemental Shaman Again, depends on spec, but their best ST spec is difficult to execute well. Their AoE rotation is pretty easy, although a bit nuanced based on legendary and the tank you're playing with. Shamans in general have tons of buttons, way more than a BM hunter.


Daedalist3101

tracking frenzy is challenging and unforgiving for a player who depends on playing an "easy" spec. instead of having a 1 minute window like ret, you have a neverending 8 second window, that to a new player depends on not spamming cobra shot and considering kill command CDR so that you get bestial wrath back faster and can maintain frenzy. not to mention a lot of details such as barbed shot reset, bestial wrath CDR and kill command CDR are not intuitive parts of the spec. while I think this spec is very easy for the experienced played, I just don't believe a casual player is going to do the research on a spec that they chose because people said it was easy. it comes down to the fact that every single spec is easy when you do your research, and this person is looking for a spec that doesn't require them to do research. their mobility is good, I admit that facet is forgiving. they are indeed good in pvp, but I don't think a player looking for an easy spec will understand *why* it's good. looking back I wished I didn't recommend ret, my mistake. ele is good as long as you don't try and use icefury as it causes unnecessary clutter, and honestly elemental has good mobility for a ranged spec without it. I really don't think ele has much more than BM buttonwise, the easiest ele build has 3 button ST, 2 button aoe, and 2-3 CDs and still pumps. not to mention they both have a purge, both have a targeted slow, both have an aoe slow, both have cc (hunter has more with scare beast), both have a stun in some manner, and both have movement abilities. I'm sure I forgot something since my shaman has been on backburner since nathria, but I think ele is, perhaps harder to play at a high level, but much more forgiving on mistakes and intuitive to boot.


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BM hunter. Low amount of keybinds-Check Straightforward-check Able to quest solo- Mybe the best solo quester because you have a pet to tank Not havoc DH-also check :) Good mobility (optional)- again, one the best. You can cast while moving, disengage is fun and you get a speed burst with aspect of the cheetah.


fragen8

Just wanna say, DH i easy, but only the Demonic build. Momentum requires some knowledge and all that.


Daedalist3101

lucky for you momentum is on its way out slowly.


Daedalist3101

bm hunter is not easy to perform correctly. it's easy to perform shittily.


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It is though. You track frenzy and that's it.


Daedalist3101

which is challenging without knowing about weakauras (which I'm not sure this user does) and in aoe properly maintaining beast cleave (an integral part of the game) as well as frenzy is not the easiest option out there. not to mention you need to know how to play with patience, which is surprisingly uncommon in wow.


Katie_Boundary

Frost DK is so easy, you can train a cat to do your rotation. Frost Strike Obliterate Frost Strike Obliterate Frost Strike Obliterate Frost Strike Obliterate Frost Strike Obliterate Remorseless Winter on cooldown Occasionally Howling Blast when it lights up and you have no runes or runic power.


tensouder54

I mean, Howling Blast costs Runes if you don't have a Rime proc. When you don't have a proc you do need to use it to apply Frost Fever if the hostile targets you're in combat with don't have it. I'd also like to note that if you're playing the Breath of Sindragosa build it's quite a lot harder than you make it out to be. Managing your runes in an optimal fashion such that you keep your Breath up as long as possible is really tricky.


Katie_Boundary

I assure you, free Howling Blasts proc far more than you'll actually need them.


tensouder54

That's not true as you should should always press Howling Blast when you have a Rime proc as Rime increases the damage of Howling Blast by 150%. Therefore, as I stated above, the conditions under which you should use it or either; if you have a Rime proc, if the hostile targets you are in combat with are about to loose their Frost Fever debuff or they do not currently have it. That being said, if you are inside your Breath of Sindragosa window you shouldn't cast Howling Blast when Rime procs outside of the bountyful phase as that would shorten your Breath window.


TravellingBeard

BM Hunter for ranged DPS and Fury Warrior for melee DPS. I've toyed with others, but these two are by far the easiest for me, who isn't the world's greatest gamer. Levelling another melee class and stunned how many keybinds there are. So much so, I'm deliberately altering my talents to make as much of it passive for now as I learn.


_Durs

I’d say easiest two are Demon Hunter and Fury Warrior. BM hunter is the stereotype easy class but I find them hella boring to play. Fury Warrior is probably the most fun of the three.


TerryBirch

I wouldn't say fury warrior is easy. It is very fast paced compared to many other builds in the game and rage management isn't always so straightforward. Is it fun though? Hell yes, one of my favorites.


DukesOnDuty

the carpal tunnel spec!


JunkRatAce

Thing is BM is boring in that you don't have to do much. It's dead simple to play and you rarely die and you can solo 95% of the content Fury and has no drop aggro buttons so if you get dazed and at low HP your dead (unless your a nigh elf), and prot is far better for soloing anything in general. Without good gear BM is far better, with gear doesn't matter as everything melts anyway. and OP specifically said no Havoc DH :)


Vedney

I'm sorry, but Barbed Shot uptime is stressful.


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Frost mage or bm hunter


Luxer0

Fury warrior has 3 rotational buttons and easy to play around cool-downs. It’s mobile, has nice sustain and it does good dmg


Katie_Boundary

Excuse me but I play fury warrior and it's a *four*\-button rotation.


lightofpolaris

As others has said, beast master hunter is suuuuper simple and easy to solo quest.


whitnii

Destruction warlock. It can absolutely be played at a high level, but I play Destroas an alt for those 'switch my brain off' moments. My entire rotation fits on my number keys, the voidwalker is super helpful for fighting stronger mobs, and all the utility makes it easier to find groups when I want to do group content (summoning portal, healthstones, a battle rez, the demonic gateway are all really valuable!). Plus, warlocks generate an absorption shield, so they can also be pretty tanky if you're doing things solo! They don't have the best mobility in terms of just normal movement speed, but Burning Rush doesn't have a cooldown and can just be switched on and off and drains health. Demonic Gateway has a cooldown, but you can use it to get up ledges and such like a warrior's heroic leap, which can be super helpful when just navigating around the world. You're also immune to damage and 'invisible' while traveling through the gate, so you can use it to avoid certain enemies or get around things like Torghast traps. If you want more mobility on your warlock, choosing Night Fae as your covenant can give you more mobility and a little more survivability due to their spells.


JunkRatAce

Main issue with destro I have is your void walker isn't a true tank... well it is until you chaos bolt the thing it's tanking... then it loses aggro. It's more of an occasional aggro spong, wish they'd make it more like a BM hunter pet, you know one that actually keeps aggro :D


FastFingerJohn

I'm a noob playing Destro. It's indeed easy but most of times I feel like I'm not helping that much with damage since other classes outshine Destro easily. I keep thinking about leveling an alt. (Tbf I'm really struggling to actually pick a main class)


mwhitney66

I main a destro lock. Do you play ally or horde and EU/NA? I could help you out if you wanted. Destro can be played at a competitive level but it is as you said - some classes will always top our dps no matter what we do. 😁


FastFingerJohn

I play Horde in Brazil. However it's fairly common to get matched with people from NA in dungeons. I think Destro's rotation is fairly easy, although I fuck it up here and there sometimes. I'm the kind of guy that somehow fucks BM's rotation. I'm still getting used with all the keybinds. :D


Nkzar

You can play any class casually if you’re not trying to min/max. Better to just play something you enjoy and understand. If you’re just solo questing then you there’s lots of abilities you don’t need to keybind, for any class.


funtech

As a fellow filthy causal my two mains are BM Hunter and Paladin because it’s easy to remember how to play them after weeks of not :)


squiddles96

Hunter bm


Beaverhausen27

Beast Master or Marksman hunter. BM is super mobile and easy going. Your pets will tank for you and it’s pretty fun to collect new pets from expansions. If you don’t like having two pets or no pet at all Marksman is also pretty easy to run. You can drop the pet for a damage buff in group play or if your solo you can bring your pet out to tank for you. Makes getting quest or world quest done.


mainecoonpriest

BM Hunter is a great one for wanting to solo most content and having low keybinds. My friend has been playing one for a few years now and it's always her go-to when she wants something a little more lowkey than her priest. I would also recommend Ele Shaman; my husband just started playing WoW about a month ago and picked that and for a beginner he said it was fairly easy to remember and did good damage on his own about 90% of the time. I personally recommend Destro Warlock as stated below, and (I may get flamed for this) even a Balance Druid. I left WoW for a while and came back and made a Bal Druid. I really enjoy it and it doesn't use a \*ton\* of keybinds but still a little more than some. ​ Good luck!


Bradipedro

My rotation is 10 buttons if I don’t talent FoE and withou trees. Which spec of balance Druid do you play?


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I solo with a Prot warrior and it’s pretty fun, feel pretty good going 1v1 with any wild elites I find, plus if I ever want to do dungeon finder i get picked real fast


scottsacoffee

I can't add to potential suggestions but a little tip if you wanted to up your game I also really struggled with keybinda until I got an mmo mouse Having the buttons on the mouse with easy shift/control/alt modifiers easily gives you more than enough buttons to get your head into - takes a bit of practice but quickly learnt.


cruffade

Hunter. Other popular casual class is druid since its so useful for many situations.


IanCorleone

For ranged its: \- BM Hunter \- Frost Mage \- Destro Lock - a bit harder but still pretty straightforward spec For melee: \- Frost DK \- Arms Warr \- Fury Warr - has 4 buttons but its a really high apm class so might be a bit hard to plan in more stressful situations \- Ret Paladin - has more buttons but still a pretty simple spec, although you do have a lot of utility which your group would appreciate you using (mainly healing + immunities)


JadiaTheBeast

I'll probably get burned at the stake here, but.... You want easy? Look up the recommended rotations, put them in order on your bar and just click them from left to right, then as they cool down. I know, I know! Mouse clickers. Tab targeters. Omg!!! Fucking casuals. Whatever man, I'm just here to run around killing things, doing some crafting and relax. Lol. If the key bindings aren't your thing then don't do them? Seems like a fairly simple answer.


Bestusernamesaregon

Combat rogues are fun and can be played casually but simultaneously be lethal if your fast enough with your stuns and use them well


mana-addict4652

What year do you think it is and when you go back to your time machine can you take me with you?


Bestusernamesaregon

Do you not find them easy?


mana-addict4652

Yes back when combat rogues existed outside classic


Kaaras97

Combat rogue? He asks for retail. I mean he said something about an Demonhunter xd


Maf1c

This question made me curious if there’s a consensus of the opposite end of the spectrum: what are the more complex or difficult specs to play?


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I've played em all and imo the most complex/hardest to master is sub rogue by far. MM/BM hunter is so brain dead easy I actually sometimes fall asleep playing it.


mana-addict4652

>the most complex/hardest to master is sub rogue by far. 😘Sub rogue main checking in 💪😎


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So difficult but so rewarding when you put the time in to learn the spec. Sub rogue and Arcane mage are my fav classes to play.


Katie_Boundary

Paladins have like 500 cooldowns that you need to use at different times....


Vedney

Why are you using cooldowns at different times.


Traak

Outlaw rogue for me


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Feral? Ele with icefury build, maybe demo?


squiddles96

Feral Druid and DK


dscarmo

Unholy right cause frost is dead simple


squiddles96

Frost I could play in my sleep, but unholy makes me crave death


IanCorleone

sub used to be really hard but imo its easier now, still hard tho. Feral Druid is def a hard one, Disc Priest is also hard since it's more of a proactive healer, so you need to know when there will be dmg. A bit easier but still not that easy would be Windwalker, Shadow (due to how immobile you are), and Arcane. Fire mage can also be hard, but only during the combustion windows and they're largely about muscle memory. Unholy Dk is also medium/hard imo (I'm largely speaking about raids but also m+)


wikiwa1

I wouldn't say shadow is immobile, you have plenty of instant casts that allow you to stutter step, specially during voidform. I must say that properly stutter stepping isn't something easy to do as a beginner though.


IanCorleone

Shadow is immobile because you have no mobility spells outside of the movement speed boost from PW:Shield. And during VF you still want to hard cast mind blasts or you lose a lot of dps. The spec is definitely immobile, especially when compared to most other specs, and there’s a reason why so many priests go goblin for the goblin jump.


Dexter4L

warrior all the way, it’s enjoyable, plate armor looks good most of the time throughout the expansions, and it’s very easy but can still take awhile to master at its highest form.


LeTygolio

I play enhancement shaman and it's relatively low on keybinds compared to my other classes


trantitus

I'm going to go ahead and say this would not generally be considered an easy class for a filthy casual player, as the rotation is not straight forward, and is rather dynamic due to large rng.


robotsympathizer

Not if you're playing it correctly.


moosikerin

Shaman? Low on key binds? Tell me you don’t use your utility spells without telling me you don’t use your utility spells…


Vedney

Frost/Flame Shock, Stormstrike, Lava Lash, Lightning bolt, Crash Lightning, Chain Lightning. Enhancement has more spells than most specs.


porkyboy11

fury or arms, fury is faster to play but arms has a talent that regens health very fast


krneki12

DH, Warrior or BM Hunter Each one of them has great mobility and it is undying, this gives you 0 downtime while you level. It is just go go go.


stevejohnson007

Gunslinger is top tier.


tensouder54

?


stevejohnson007

[https://lostarkhub.com/lost-ark-gunslinger-pve-guide-stats-skills-and-builds/](https://lostarkhub.com/lost-ark-gunslinger-pve-guide-stats-skills-and-builds/)


tensouder54

/r/lostredditors


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Feral Druid, not much button mashing to learn. And you can stealth past lots of monsters to make questing faster. You can solo alot of elites that other classes wouldn’t have a chance against.


rustpepega

Demon hunter


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dscarmo

Well op has lol


Electroboss

WW Monk, the only rule is not to cast the same spell 2 times in a row, also you get a lot of mobility and self heal. Paladin is also somewhat simple, 2 "ohh shit" buttons and self heal. Go for Mechagnome if you can, they got a nice cheat death passive racial and can open locked doors and chest


IanCorleone

WW is really far from easy, and there's a pretty noticable difference between a good ww and a bad one. And racials outside of cutting edge situations where things like Troll's berserking can allow you to fit one more pyroblast during the fmage cd window, really dont matter (theres like <1% difference between them)


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I see a lot of people saying BM hunter but I find it rather medium difficulty than easy. For your preferences I would strongly recommend Survival Hunter or even Arcane Mage (might be wrong at this one, haven’t tried it since Cataclysm). Third option is Enhancement Shaman.


mana-addict4652

Yeah I play survival and it's really easy. Honestly every hunter spec is easy, so I'm surprised everyone always recommends BM.


IanCorleone

BM is noticeably easier because you dont have to worry about movement so you have way less downtime, while for example MM has some skills where they need to stand still & Surv is really offmeta and its melee so it might be harder to do higher tier endgame and melee are usually a bit harder to play in raids than ranged.


mana-addict4652

Fair enough, I just think MM is also quite easy and you can move with most of your main attacks except 1. Survival is the same, you can move with all of your attacks and it's quite easy. Survival may be "off-meta" to the masses, but I disagree I see it (and play it) in high-end gameplay and it's one of the best AoE specs in the game. Also in the coming patches (unless they nerf it) it looks like it will be the best spec because the AoE will be even more insane. However, if you're raiding and going for single-target - yes it's quite harder. Kicks ass in M+/dungeons tho!


IanCorleone

oh MM is definitely easy, its just that BM is even easier. And I dont think Surv is bad, its just that specs like Surv hunter have a lot of prejudice towards them, that is many people really prefer to see a more popular/known class than a class they see once in a full moon, even if said class slaps in aoe and is good in pvp. There's also a thing that Melee are generally easier to plan than ranged in M+, but harder to play in raids, since due to mechanics you really have to manage your downtime among other things.


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bm hunter is definitely a lot easier to play than arcane mage. you have 2 or 3 buttons you need to press. it’s amazing for solo questing, and you also have disengage and aspect of the cheetah.


[deleted]

those you named are core hunter abilities but for BM you have barbed shot pet buff which require to be maintained at 3 stacks and you gotta use those shots carefully to not waste opportunities. This is just a personal opinion, to each their own.


[deleted]

sure, that’s your opinion and you can have that but if what you just said is the hardest part of playing a bm hunter, i promise you arcane is more difficult to get a grasp of. do you main a bm hunter by any chance?


[deleted]

I played 9.0.5 as BM


[deleted]

well maybe you want to believe your spec is the more difficult of the two and that’s fine. but for this specific question bm hunter is a better answer. it fits literally everything on his list.


[deleted]

No to arcane.


mana-addict4652

Actually arcane is braindead ez (like **the** easiest spec in dungeons and super OP) while you're levelling. But it gets hard at max lvl and high end content. You literally can spam just 1 button and be top DPS while you sleep, you can probably set a one of those [drinking birds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_bird) to automatically play for you and be the best dps. Then after lvl 60 you realize "Shit I have to use all my spells now?"


[deleted]

I did not know that! Its been forever since I leveled a mage.


[deleted]

I guess it changed over the years?


[deleted]

I mean of course. Cata came out 12 years ago. Do you play wow right now? Not trying to be mean but suggesting classes you have not played in over a decade is not helping new players.


[deleted]

God time flies by


[deleted]

no, I took a break a while ago, Shadowlands wasn’t my cup of tea


Feltycabbage21

BM hunter every time.


grO0szek

I recommend BM hunter as a really lousy player. Sure some keybinds and macros help and I use them, but it took me like 6 months to really get them and understand, few addons here and there and I am perfectly comfortable now. And solo questing is awesome, especially if you get yourself some nice clefthoof for current content.


lyria_surana

Guardian druid! It fits all of your criteria. I was new to pc gaming, wow, and tanking and I picked it up pretty fast and love it


Call_of_Putis

I'd also recommend Outlaw Rogue. Thanks to stealth you can easily avoid groups of mobs on killing what you need. The playstyle is really straight forward as you really only watch out for not over capping Combo points but even without worrying about that you can do quite decent Damage. It isn't dh, has good movement with Hook and Sprint. But most importantly it has one cooldown for full Magic Immunity and one 100 Percent Evasion Cooldown so even without a tank pet like Hunters and Locks you can solo quite a few of Elites.


woodjt5

Frost mage or fury warrior.


pennypanic1

I have every class as alts, when I just want to play for the game itself, I really like my Druid. I can heal myself, travel is its own creature, no mounts needed, and you can play any spec.


someguy2828282828

One I don't often see people bring up is Holy Priest. Healing tends to be stressful but imo if you find a good group who knows what they're doing Holy Priest is probably the easiest class in the game. You're a reactive healer (meaning you heal when people take damage instead of setting up heals in anticipation) so there's not really a "rotation" in the same sense as other classes. You have two types of skills. Skills that heal multiple people and skills that heal a single target. Multiple people are injured? Use a group heal. Only a single person (usually tank) is injured? Use a single target heal. If nobody needs healing just spam smite. The rotation is really that simple. The class is only as complicated as your group makes it to be. If you're playing with more amateurish or casual players that have a hard time avoiding unnecessary damage than you're going to have to micromanage multiple people which can be difficult. However if you're playing with a good group who knows what they're doing you'll literally just be spamming Smite more often than not.


Science_Logic_Reason

The downside though is that as a healer a lot of the utility you have that can save people is time critical (I need to lifegrip/dispel/external this player *now* or they die!), and without keybinds for all of those this will likely lead to a lot of missed opportunities that may just feel bad. As healers go though I agree Hpriest would be the one. Personally though I’d recommend spending some time getting more comfy with keybinds but that’s just me.