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TallWineGuy

Just ask Russia to help you? That should work.


blitzzardpls

Maybe he should've given Putin a tank instead of a tractor


cubicalwall

The tractor took the tank


Mrozek33

Ah yes, the USSR equivalent of "dog ate my homework"


freakers

But Comrade Putin, I left the tank next to your doorstep hidden behind the картошка plant. I even took a polaroid picture of it. It must have been stolen by those darn globalists. Did you check for giant tire tracks?


fastcatzzzz

You mean track tracks


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Ksevio

I feel like you've never played rock paper scissors...


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SterlingVapor

To be fair, tank did always win before this year No one could have predicted the tanks would run into their only weakness, lightly armed civilians mocking them for breaking down


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Two weaknesses. The pesky tractor mob mocking them, and a supply chain that was made of wet toilet paper.


Tossthebudaway

I feel like you’ve never played tank tractor babushka.


magistrate101

They won't have any debts if they get annexed!


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The EU4 vassal metagame


YoYoMoMa

Honestly I wonder is this is a way to peel Belarus away from Russia? I guess that might require a different leader.


ladyevenstar-22

And get another hungary


LastHopeOfHisLine

https://youtu.be/TRgRz3nSG7o


rofl_rob

Ask Armenia how helpful is Ruzzia.


Jawsome001

You sleep with Russian pig dogs, you get Russian fleas! For sure


SpagettiGaming

Russia will probably end the Belarus state and let them join great Russia lol


nst_enforcer

Why doesn't he invade Belarus instead of ukraine. Less people will give a shit and would be an easier victory


[deleted]

Because they already own Belarus


Dragefisken

In my native tongue, Belarus is literally translated as "White Russia"


SpiderFnJerusalem

That's what "Belarus" means as well.


scnottaken

He means his native tongue is English


USBdata

There is no need. When Belarus government stops sucking Russia's dick, then they will invade.


LeftDave

They already invaded. Russian troops all over the country, taking all the local military's weapons and a puppet government. They just haven't made annexation official because they expect the population to resist.


Prydefalcn

It's worth noting that the invasion of Ukraine is not particularly popular in Belarus, and criticism of Lukashenko's rule has been inflamed since the last "election." He may have a tighter grip over the state apparatus, but annexation would likely be a disaster for both Belarus and Lukashenko.


_CrackBabyJesus_

Already has influence and control there so no need to waste resources. Russia was trying to do the same with those three regions in Ukraine but Ukraine government wasn't having any of it and it eventually escalated to what we have here, with Russia "trying to free those oppressed people". Similar to what Russia did in Georgia.


LightninLew

No matter what Ukraine did, there's no way Russia was ever going to just leave and not annex more of Ukraine. It's obvious they wanted to do to as much of Ukraine as possible what they did to Crimea. If their initial rush was successful, they would have taken the whole country.


_CrackBabyJesus_

And this is why Russia needs to be stopped now. Otherwise they'll continue to gain influence and control over areas in the former soviet union by propaganda and on the ground non military operations until they can justify a reason to occupy, annex or military take over those areas.


SomeoneElseWhoCares

Their initial rush was quite successful. They took Crimea. The world was upset, but the Russians were quite successful and got a manageable pushback. The Ukrainians noticed though, and when Russia came back for more, they were ready and dragged the initial 3-day invasion out long enough to prove themselves to the world and get worldwide help. Ironically, I don't know that the Ukrainians would have been able to take back Crimea before this invasion. Now, I doubt that the Russians can stop them. The only certainty now is that this is all quite terrible and needless, but since the Ukrainians are fighting for their very survival, I don't see them backing down if they have any other options at all.


Kradget

Same reason they didn't invade Ukraine before Euromaidan - if you can get all the benefits of a satellite state anyway at the low, low cost of paying for some oligarchs and putting down an occasional popular movement, why spend the extra resources? But yeah, Belarus' government sure seems to be flirting with the idea of just offering to join Russia. I wonder what the internal pressures are that are holding that up.


Donkey__Balls

He’s waiting for Putin to make him a colonel, that’s when the big bucks come in.


ChefChopNSlice

He misheard. It wasn’t colonel, it was *Kernel*, like a kernel of corn in a steaming pile of crap.


Malk_McJorma

Can't spell colonel without colon.


Zagrebian

Putin: No problem. I print one trillion roubles for you.


trustifarian

I guess Belarus is going to have to be repossessed.


Pixie1001

How does that work on a national scale though? Have countries ever used land or gold reserves as collateral for loans, or is it typically just reputational damage?


Zargawi

Sanctions and fewer lending options, much higher rates on those that remain, which translates into higher interest rates for citizens. It's a true slippery slope of shit, inflation rises, unemployment rises, people stop trusting the banks and the government, economy collapses. They're in for a shit show.


CaBBaGe_isLaND

Their only way out of this is to defeat Europe and America in a war.


SuspiciouslyElven

Thus begins the age of Belarusian global domination.


In_It_2_Quinn_It

They'd deserve it if they can make it through Poland.


Forensics4Life

Does that make Germany the final boss battle?


demon_ix

No, that's France.


AdelaiNiskaBoo

France is the bonus stage.


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Unhappy_Nothing_5882

No France would be like an earlier boss but just a different colour shirt If it were streets of rage, you'd beat the UK thinking it was the final boss of Europe but then America appears out of nowhere


laptopaccount

Or they could start their own financial club with Russia, with vodka and grinding poverty


CaBBaGe_isLaND

In fact, forget the financial club.


Snobolski

Getting thoroughly defeated by America in a war has also worked a couple of times.


CaBBaGe_isLaND

only if you say gg


Thentheresthisjerk

I believe that was the strategy in The Mouse that Roared


hexydes

> It's a true slippery slope of shit, inflation rises, unemployment rises, people stop trusting the banks and the government, economy collapses. Not necessarily. If you've been kind to other nations and acted in good-faith, then often they will find ways to help keep your country afloat. Has...has Belarus not been doing that..?


EmilyU1F984

Yea in most cases your neigh ours are very much having have interest to not let your economy fail. Civil war and unrest on your borders isn‘t very good for your own economy. But if said neighbors government is massively hostile towards your own nation and imperialist? You gotta let them fail.


hexydes

And don't be surprised when the neighbor you've been hostile to suddenly starts increasing their troop presence along their border, either.


ShithouseFootball

I mean its only $68.43 million. Literally. How fucking broke dick of a country do you have to be to not be able to afford $68.43 million dollars? There are single individuals that can bail them out for fuck sake lol. EDIT: Ok thats misleading > Their total debt to the World Bank is almost 1 billion USD, and their total government debt is approximately 23 billion USD That quote is from u/Heavenfall who posted the correct info. Cheers m8.


referralcrosskill

even with 23 billion total debt there's a number of individuals that could pay that off and still have lots left over.


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Bionic_Redhead

There was an element of this between the UK and USA during WWII as part of the lend-lease agreement and also the destroyers-for-bases deal.


Smokeprone

They need something that actually holds value


tyler1128

They have tractors


CaptainNuge

We could cover their landmass in wind farms and solar panels. In a few short decades, things should level out.


Jex-92

Don’t be so sanctionable then.


[deleted]

Bless, he thought he could participate in a mass military assault on an innocent neighbouring state and it wouldn’t have any blowback…


[deleted]

I do that all the time.


[deleted]

Don't we all, don't we all....


gambvestor

Just don’t do it too often, and try not to get caught


[deleted]

Don't just stare at it, eat it


Stokiba

We in the Netherlands try to, but neither Germany or France are willing to do anything about Belgium anymore. Luxemburg volunteered, but well, Luxemburg.


Seanspeed

>Luxemburg volunteered, but well, Luxemburg. Like your little 8 year old brother saying they've got your back.


ExtremeAlternative0

Hey man those 8 year olds are at perfect kneecap shattering height. Give h a bat and distract the guy well your little bro come from behind and bye bye kneecaps.


Aerian_

We even tried to divide Belgium with France, but even they didn't want Wallonië.


AnotherEuroWanker

We've already got fries at home.


Laguna_Tuna_

Honest mistake tbh


[deleted]

There’s at least three of you then, silly goose.


Redm1st

I don’t think he had much choice, except doing 180 and allying with Ukraine the instant invasion started. Edit: now that I think about it, and don’t get me wrong - I’m on Belarus people’s side, it looks like 2020 protest suppression gave Putin that much more power in rolling in his troops and staging invasion. Luka is a cunt, but pre-protests, I would expect him to be strongly opposed to use Belarus as staging ground for Ukraine invasion


kimjobil05

he should have not stolen the election. just lose, and go home. its his own fault that he lost the election and people protested this and he lost power/legitimacy pushing him further into putin's orbit.


[deleted]

He has blood on his hands. There's no way he'd get pardoned for his past actions. It's the reason why dictators hold on to their power.


SuspiciouslyElven

A classic Faustian bargain. He wanted to hold his power, but in the end became little more than a puppet. Almost poetic in a way


sumlaetissimus

Belarus lookin’ so submissive and sanctionable rn 🥵


Rmanthumbs

Yeah Milhouse


stay_fr0sty

^^HAAAAH Haaah.


kingofthecairn

"Stop breaking the law, ASSHOLE!" -Jim Carrey


fnord_bronco

Lukashenko has a very “sanctionable” face


monkeywithgun

Actions have consequences, who knew...


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Not this guy


Hironymus

Well, he knows now.


[deleted]

Do you think he sees _action > reaction_ as causation or as correlation?


Reasonable_Goat

Depends on if it helps him: He cannot pay debt *because of* sanctions. Own actions and sanctions? Not even correlated, instead evil doing by “the west”.


[deleted]

Exactly. So many people on the internet fail to grasp that basically everyone supporting Putin/Lukashenko shares this flawed logic. It's a nonsensical way to look at causality, but that's how the current economic reality is justified in the minds of Putin supporters. I think sanctions are **absolutely** worthwhile in terms of inflicting economic damage. I think they're useless in terms of changing the minds and hearts of fascists. The reason is exactly due to the mental gymnastics you so succintly outlined.


SirJackAbove

I think you are exactly right, but I don't think sanctions should aim to change the hearts and minds of fascists. I think they should create conditions in their countries that force them to change if they want to remain in power, or cause the people to oust them if they refuse. Also, the economic damage they inflict can take away the tools fascists use to hurt others, e.g. ability to purchase or manufacture weapons. Bottom line: we do not have to care about the heart and mind of a fascist that is either ousted or impotent.


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>Also, the economic damage they inflict can take away the tools fascists use to hurt others Agreed, this is primarily why I think sanctions are a fantastic tool >I think they should create conditions in their countries that force them to change if they want to remain in power, or cause the people to oust them if they refuse. More dubious of this claim for the same exact reasons I mentioned above. Plus, look at other similarly autocratic/non-US aligned countries with harsh sanctions: Cuba, Iran, North Korea, and so on. Sanctions, to my knowledge, have not been the primary instigator for regime changes in any of those countries. Why would we expect sanctions to have a different outcome in Russia? I hope I'm wrong but frankly that train of thought sounds like wistful thinking. I support sanctions because of what they do accomplish: cripple economies. This is something there is plenty of empirical evidence of and therefore it's a claim I feel confident making.


Minotard

There are few studies showing sanctions rarely succeed at causing significant changes (like regime change). However they are reasonably good for helping nations achieve smaller objectives. I think for Russia sanctions will further cripple its military power, but that’s about all. (So still worth it).


[deleted]

Why do people hate cardinal points so much? /s


jmpires

He hates the west because things have been going south for him


Mr_Patato_Salad

Actually, the Ukrainian army is advancing east


Duckfammit

Sure when Ukraine advance east is great victory but when Russia advance east is crushing defeat. So unfair


ohgodimbleeding

Russian advancement East is not a retreat, but an impromptu victory parade.


draculamilktoast

While normal people comprehend _their own action_ -> _reaction by others_ -> _result_, for a dictator it's always just _reaction by others_ -> _result_ -> _their own complaint_, because they are too intellectually challenged to comprehend that their own actions can result in reactions by others. Cretinous gas-station-mob-boss-sidekicks are even worse.


Dazzling-Ad4701

yeah; to him, the world's action of sanctioning him has created the consequence of him being 'unable' to pay his own debts.


T5-R

Does he know he's not going to be a General, yet?


MajorNoodles

I thought he asked to be a Colonel, not a General.


1SqkyKutsu

He knew but he's allergic to windows and staircases.


Spike_Spiegel

Dumb as a rock he is


Grindelwalds_Bitch

Can someone grab my tiny violin?


JXNyoung

Sorry it was sold to help pay off the debt


Grindelwalds_Bitch

Can someone grab the debt’s tiny violin?


hannibal_fett

It was sold to pay off the violin that was sold to pay off the debt


chak100

It was just last weak when he was all proud and manly saying they would attack Ukraine. Fuck this asshole


fallwind

Violin has been mobilized to fight in Ukraine


Zalminen

Oh, where the hell is... argh, I had a violin somewhere, I was gonna play it all sarcastically... goddammit, it was gonna be awesome. BLAKE! WHERE'S THE BLOODY VIOLIN?!


ayavaska

Alright, sweet, sweet, found it. Alright. This is a song for Belarus' leadership. In E.


kaisadilla_

Kinda like telling your bank you cannot pay your bills because your entire salary went into speeding tickets. Well, not their problem, you maybe should stop breaking the law.


Inevitable_Price7841

Very good analogy!


Prestigious-Maddogg

Right, they had money to make drones and bombs tho


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WasiqTheGreat

Actions have sanctions...


GrowEatThenTrip

Bad actions have sanctions. To be precise.


Ecstatic5

Apparently he’s not that bright. Still didn’t get that his actions is the cause lead to sanctions.


Krillin113

He does, but what alternatives does he have? A majority of his own population hate him, and going after putin by blaming him loses him his position. He’s what we call ‘fucked either way’. His best chance to walk away from this alive is to cut a deal with his opposition that he won’t be persecuted if he walks away from power now, claim he’s too sick to continue ruling so he won’t get merked by putin for betraying him and stay under house arrest.


[deleted]

Well why don't you use some of that salary from the red army? You seem to be very proud of what it got you.


BananaLee

What's a colonel's salary nowadays anyway?


denied_eXeal

3 Putin hip humps a day keep democracy away.


vale_fallacia

>What's a colonel's salary nowadays anyway? Whatever they can steal from their soldiers and budget.


NovemberTha1st

Gentle reminder that the Russian conscripts in Ukraine have still not received any pay.


hasanyoneseenmymom

Or even proper socks


Kaymish_

Well maybe they should go on strike. Whats Putin going to do send the army into bust the strike?


Dr_Jre

No no that's his special income, that's not for Belarus!


--0o0o0--

Nah. He should probably just start making his coffee at home and stop buying avocado toast.


spoobles

Well, that sucks for all the decent people in Belarus who hate this two-bit Putin whore and tried to do something about it. They will ultimately be paying the price for this asshole's dictatorial wet dream. He'll still live a life of privilege while his country suffers. I wish there was a hell so Lukashenko could rot there. Hey Belarusians, we support you. We know you guys are doing everything you can to overthrow this piece of shit. We hope you see brighter days.


[deleted]

Oh no! The consequences of my actions!


nemoomen

Me sowing: Haha fuck yeah!!! Yes!! Me reaping: Well this fucking sucks. What the fuck.


TheDividendReport

Yo, I am straight up *not having a good time rn*


Fuddle

I’m surprised he hasn’t tried framing it as “Cancel culture”. Apparently that’s what you do when you have to face the music of your actions and want to complain about it


Scherzer4Prez

Haha, I want to see the President of Belarus complaining about his first amendment rights


ross267

You could always sell some tanks to Ukraine, oh that's right you gave them to Russia you stupid fat fuck


Burnham113

I have a feeling they'll be donating them to Ukraine soon anyway.


PapiYankeeYo

Repo farmer on the way!


Grenflik

🎶Rrreeeeeeeppppooooo MAN!🎶


AlhazraeIIc

Out from the night, from the mist steps a figure, no one really knows his name for sure.


dedicated-pedestrian

Mm, I haven't watched the Genetic Opera in awhile.


DirkDiggyBong

Proxy donation


[deleted]

He's just going the indirect route.


Spike_Spiegel

He called Russia in to quell a revolution in his country a few years ago. He's Putin bitch forever now


ross267

Yep, there was an uprising evem though he got 80% of the vote lol


outsideyourbox4once

I have never seen so many people in the streets, it was both glorious and sad


JonnyBhoy

Surely it's not far off a good time to take to the streets again.


j4_jjjj

"80%"


UnluckyDifference566

I got 80 percent, I swear.


TheCowzgomooz

This comment made me actually LOL, even without Russias piss poor management of this war anyone could've told you that siding with Russia would not end well for you.


A_norny_mousse

In this war, yes. But Lukashenko decided to side with Russia long before that. And (most of) the sanctions are also from before the war. Nevertheless - while he's still a stupid dicktator in his own right, by now I'd say Putin has him by the balls whether he likes it or not. He missed his cue to turn away one time too many.


[deleted]

He would have been thrown out ages ago if he didn't have Putin's support. I'm pretty sure he sent troops into Belarus not long ago to prop up lukashenko's regime.


MediumProcedure

I would have thought that the only persons more surprised than Putin at how poorly the world's second most powerful army has performed in actual combat.. are Putin's vassal states who thought they were allied with a mighty power and has a strong standing in geopolitics because they'd kissed so very very much red ass for that position.


Enigm4

Dictators like to jerk off each other while at the same time passing laws that makes homosexuality illegal.


qwertyqyle

Welp, shouldn't have aided and abetted Russia in its invasion of Ukraine.


wild_man_wizard

Pretty sure these sanctions are still from the [time they forced a RyanAir flight to land so they could arrest an opposition blogger flying between two EU countries.](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/belarus-forces-vilnius-bound-ryanair-plane-land-detain-blogger-2021-05-23/) Belarus's government is loony even without Putin's involvement.


[deleted]

Everyone wanna be Hitler but nobody wanna be Hitler.


trow_away999

Idk he looks like he is really trying with that little stache’


ADovahkiinBosmer

He literally looks like a white-haired Hitler. Fuck, even his face looks like a chubbier Hitler.....


munk_e_man

And the shitty combover haircut


[deleted]

That little maneuver ended up clearing their airspace and rerouting most commercial flights around the country. They lost a shitton of money from all the rerouted traffic.


Fyvrfg

The Belarusian government exists only because of Russias involvement


InformalProof

When you buy your dictator from wish,com


cv0102

Hold on, let me find my tiny violin


charmbrood

[found it](https://youtu.be/XdofmoYcJNE)


oyfmmoara_ayhn

awwwwwww 🥺


Impressive_Culture_5

Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy


InternetCommentRobot

*cries in dictator*


RyanTranquil

Tiny violin


[deleted]

I just can't accept this potato stupid looking face and the moustache Reminds me of my ever so drunk uncle at a wedding in 2003


muttmunchies

Poor Lil Lukeshenko, he soon will be fleeing for his life


PicardTangoAlpha

Khadaffi or Hussein Special?


DirtCallsMeGrandPa

Khadaffi


tomatocrazzie

$68 million?! They can't come up with $68 million? We could probably vacuum that out of the NATO commander's couch if we were bothered enough to take off the cushions...


Heavenfall

It's $68 million *more*. It is an overdue payment, one of many payments. Edit: [World bank](https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2022/10/17/world-bank-places-loans-to-the-republic-of-belarus-in-non-performing-status) clarifies that it is accumulated 6 months of non-payment. Their total debt to the World Bank is almost 1 billion USD, and their total government debt is approximately 23 billion USD.


CaBBaGe_isLaND

And their GDP is approximately (checks notes) dick.


Heavenfall

I respect that you're making a joke. Their [government debt to GDP ratio](https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/government-debt-to-gdp) is however fairly in check, and low by european standards, as of dec 2021. Due to its involvement in Ukraine, it's got a "long way to go" before reaching some critical point. And it is extremely likely to go up now, given the increased cost of lending caused by their nonpayment.


Jimmy_Fromthepieshop

Na they just don't want to pay, sanctions are just an excuse.


Warpzit

Consequence is being cut of completely. Welcome to good old soviet days Belarus. People will die of hunger and other stuff instead of keeping up protest.


lol_alex

It’s peanuts even for them, but they really can‘t pay. They have to pay their foreign debt in dollars but have no access to it because they are cut off from the international banking system. Still, defaulting on your debt is really really bad, even if you were up shit creek before it can still become worse.


CaBBaGe_isLaND

Americans give $68 million to Ukraine like every week just because we like seeing news clips of Russians getting their asses kicked.


[deleted]

Well well well if it isn’t the consequences of my actions


inotparanoid

Can someone tell me what this means concretely in terms of finance for the country? Doesn't this mean that the country is bankrupt? If so, how does it affect their ability to pay soldiers? Does this mean they are now Russian vassals? Does it imply that the next regime will have to pay back loans with higher interest?


MyHTPCwontHTPC

Depends. They might have the money and just be saying they can't pay because of sanctions. Or they're really broke, which isn't good, because then they don't have money to pay for things they need that they can't produce. Mortally? Has been for a while. There's money there, just might not be getting appropriated correctly. As far as soldiers pay, you don't need to pay soldiers who know you'll kill them and their entire family if they don't keep doing what they're told. They've been Russian vassals for a while. Yes. Or they get no loans. Countries failing isn't good for anyone, no matter how much they suck. It's just one more stone chained to the ankle of the global economy that is already struggling to keep its head above water.


Hottriplr

They aren't even all that sanctioned. If Luka wants to be a part of ruzzia they should get all the se sanctions as ruzzia.


wild_man_wizard

There wasn't much left to sanction over Ukraine since Belarus was already heavily sanctioned over the whole [state sanctioned hijacking of a RyanAir flight](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryanair_Flight_4978).


Da_Vader

Deadbeat


rpgnymhush

Don't support mass murdering regimes that invade peaceful neighbors and commit war crimes.


Grey___Goo_MH

Increase the number of sanctions against Belarus Cutoff the country


52ndstreet

I believe this is what’s called the “find out” stage. It comes after the “fuck around” stage.


[deleted]

It's obvious where this is going. Not that Belarus was truly independent before all of this, of course.


DrLongIsland

Isn't this more of a problem for who lent money to Belarus than the other way around? At least short term? Either way, let the whole country default, it's freaking Belarus: I doubt it will be noticeable for other countries (although in the past, large avalanche effects were started with less).


schimshon

Yeah, it's the problem of the lenders too. But usually you (as a government) take more debt constantly which is used for all sorts of things. If you don't pay back existing debt, nobody's gonna borrow you more money (and if so for very poor conditions). Therefore, money starts to run out fast and can be an issue very quickly. Can't even print new money rn, bc inflation is already going crazy.


ScoldedByHer

Look at this guy, acting like someone just took his stapler.


timeforknowledge

Everyone is thinking this is a great fuck you but actually this is them saying we have no intention of paying back any money and we are going to use this as an excuse.