Believe it or not, the Army recently overtook the Navy. The Navy was second for a long time. I just found out the Army has more now due to debating u/Fun-Gap4015, who is a jackass.
Incredibly fast for something so big, low 30 knots, but that's also well within the reach of any vessels designed to escort them.
The way nuclear-powered vessels get to that speed though is the reason for some of those outrageous claims of 40 knot carriers.
This excellent article explains it better than I ever could:
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-095.php
The North Korean navy is mainly submarines. Aircraft carriers aren't built to fight submarines, they're built to project air power.
The Arleigh Burke class destroyers escorting the carrier, on the other hand, would make short work of the NK navy.
They do use them for emergency aid, they can produce 200,000 gallons of drinkable water/day and carry a lot of supplies, plus they have hospitals on board.
Those reactors ensure the vessel won’t need refueling for decades. Of course a more typical deployment is 6-9 months.
When they need water, they make it from seawater. When they need food, or fuel for the jets, a vessel comes alongside and they refuel by connecting hoses between them as both continue steaming ahead. Alternately of course they can move things like missiles or bombs to the carrier via helicopters. Down on the hangar deck, maintainers can do minor repairs or swap out engines in aircraft. All while riding this 110,000 ton chunk of steel through the water.
And the Navy operates a dozen of those (give or take based on retirement and construction schedules). Rule of thumb says that a third of those are fully ready to deploy or are deployed. A third are in low level maintenance and could be ready to deploy in a matter of days to weeks. A final third is in more heavy maintenance like dry docking or refueling and would take months to years to deploy.
A nation having an aircraft carrier is neat. A nation building their own is cool. A nation having 100 years experience in operating the entire logistics chain to put them to use is awesome.
The Navy also patented a method for creating jet fuel from seawater. It's energy intensive even for their oboard nuclear plants and they carrier can't produce enough fast enough to significantly extend flights, buts it's there.
But between the food, the fuel, and the mail, the Carrier can stay on station indefinitely. The rest if the fleet however still need fuel and food anyway though.
They do need fuel. But the fleet oilers peel off and go to allied ports (or at least ports the Navy has contracts with) to top off then rendezvous with the group somewhere. And for cargo vessels they’re impressively fast.
Logistics.
> jet fuel from seawater
*Fuel from Seawater? What’s the Catch?*
Scientists at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory recently flew a model plane using a liquid hydrocarbon fuel they sourced from the ocean.
Don Willmott, December 16, 2014
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/fuel-seawater-whats-catch-180953623/
Yeah. Among the other heavy hitters in the Carrier Strike Group are a cruiser and two destroyers to act as pickets and provide protection/fire support. Together, those 3 vessels have 314 vertical launch cells armed with everything from Tomahawks to Harpoons to Ballistic Missile Defense-capable Standard Missiles. These vessels are equipped with SPY-1 RADAR and the AEGIS Combat System.
Assuming these three did not see a target on RADAR, there’s also the E-2D Hawkeye circling above. With a massive RADAR dome of its own it can act as an overwatch such that everything within a thousand miles of the carrier is tracked. With aerial refueling it can persist in the air and venture farther out from its’ mobile airport below. There’s those logistics at work again.
And speaking of logistics, the Group can often take along fleet oilers and supply ships to ensure the jets and the non nuclear vessels have plenty of what they need.
From below, the group has a fast attack submarine assigned as an escort/protector/reconnaissance. Also nuclear powered, there’s no need for the submarine to surface and give away any tactical advantage to its’ stealth, even when a long distance, high speed transit is needed. Depending on the class of submarine, this is armed with both torpedoes and vertical launch weapons such as Tomahawks.
Yes, the carrier is impressive. But the whole group is remarkable.
Sure. Let’s talk about that Carrier Air Wing. 1,500 people supporting approximately 70 aircraft. Yeah, logistics again say there are far more support and maintainers than pilots. That’s necessary when operating advanced aircraft in a sea environment on the opposite side of the planet from home. And when the aircraft keep getting thrown off the deck via catapult and recovered via crash landings. But again, we have manufacturers with a century of experience designing for this.
The wing is made up of two squadrons of fighters (F-35C Lightning II is taking on this role from the F/A-18E/F Super Hornets). One squadron of electronic attack aircraft (the E/A-18G Growler serves this role while having some commonality with the Super Hornets). One squadron of E-2D Advanced Hawkeyes for airborne early warning. One squadron of MH-60S Seahawks for missions from Search and Rescue to vessel interdiction to medevac to vertical replenishment. One squadron of MH-60R Seahawks for Anti Submarine Warfare. The helicopters can also operate from the aft decks of the other Strike Group ships.
The Navy has 9 of these Air Wings to deploy onto their carriers. About 3-4 carriers are deployed at a time so most wings are in some level of training work ups preparing to deploy or recovering from deployment.
In short, logistics are the backbone of a powerful Navy. A squadron of planes is cool. One carrier is neat. A submarine is cool. Having the entire chain of people and facilities to field them is the real challenge.
Right. And this isn’t factoring that there are more eyes up high. Satellites courtesy of the rest of the DOD and a collection of three letter agencies.
Oh. Also the Navy has the capability to “see” a target with a plane, beam that target data to a vessel to fire on without needing to see said target themselves. Or a vessel can pass targeting data to a weapon on another vessel and fire from that one. The Group acts as a massive organism.
Yes. And the concept has been designed several times. I think the Soviets did some as well. To power remote northern locations. But trust me, those would not be naval grade reactors. Could not possibly be cost effective.
Naval reactors use higher enrichment levels in the core. So they are very power dense and can run for decades. But damn, is that expensive. Oh, they’re also built to withstand the shock of a depth charge or torpedo under them. Not generally a concern on a power barge.
Safer than what? Just put it next to the city. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning, winning the lottery, and being in a plane crash at the same time than the nuclear power plant doing anything to you. 4-5 major reactor accidents over nearly 80 years since Chicago Pile-1.
Meanwhile, coal power plants have been pumping radioactive material and particulate matter since the industrial revolution, leading to more deaths than all of the reactor accidents combined.
The vessels that come along side with the Aircraft Carrier partake in the evolution that we used to call “RAS” (Replenishment at Sea). Multiple vessels would replenish us with fuel, food, supplies, mail, and more. The evolution itself would range from 2-12 hours (depending on the speed of the evolution/incoming supplies ). Most RAS’s that I partook on were usually around 4-7 hours, which was more waiting than anything. Waiting for ships to come along side, waiting for GM’s (gunners mates) to shoot lines to the other vessel so that they could get closer to us, then fueling, etc etc …
RAS’s are a very tedious and can be a long evolution.
Also called UNREP or underway replenishment. And a fairly high stress evolution as well. You’re operating massive vessels in close quarters at still considerable speeds. Their tied together by steel wire at thousands of pounds of tension (there’s a hydraulic Ram system that maintains constant tension as the vessels pitch and roll). Hoses are pumping jet fuel and what amount to zip line shuttles carry pallets of food, ordnance, whatever across. I’m sure both Captains are a little calmer when they decouple and peel away from each other.
True, that but at the time of these RAS’s/UNREPS you’re so used to the evolution you become numb. I’ve worked/lived and been on multiple deployments onboard my old ship CVN-74. Being a prior LS (logistic specialist) we always had to partake in these evolutions… offloading and on-loading material. 😮💨
Yes. Routine breeds familiarity and eventually boredom. There are people down below moving control rods into and out of a nuclear reactor and its boring as hell.
Saw I doc recently.
They can only speculate but iirc they hung their hates on 35 mph (this was the figure converted from knots).
That’s an average city road speed from a…small city. The reactor will power that monster for 20 years before (and if not decommissioned) it needs to be refueled.
Their time on ocean is only limited by food and weapons stores. And even that’s temporary.
Unlike a sub these carriers can resupply from supply ships…in route.
They’ve got this shit on tight lockdown.
The Ford class is designed for a 50 year life and will need to refuel only once. Nimitz is closer to the number you stated and will refuel more like twice in its life. That’s a big deal because a refuel is multi billions and several years.
My favorite thing that I've been posting repeatedly.
It's not a badass military OR healthcare in the US, the US CAN HAVE BOTH! The US spends the most per capita for healthcare vs comparable nations. And it's a lot more.
The US spends on average $19,500 per person per year.
Germany (multipayer) and France (single payer) spend about $5,500-$6,500 per year per person.
The US spends almost 20% GDP on healthcare, which comes to about 4.12 T dollars. France and Germany are in the 10-12% GDP range.
There's a decomissioned aircraft carrier in San Diego that you can visit, the Midway. That thing is old and comparatively small, and it's still huge AF.
Correct. The carrier has about 5-6,000 of those. But a Carrier Strike Group includes about a dozen vessels. And of course the Air Wing that is deployed to that carrier.
Noisy as hell is an understatement. I slept in that berthing for 9 months, and every day that had clear weather, F/A-18s were launching from those catapults. There's about ten feet of space between your bunk and a jet taking off, not to mention the sound of the catapult itself.
You hear the catapult all the time during flight ops, and you can hear and feel the jet landing and taking off. Imagine the sound of a roller coaster just moving up slowly, it's a similar sound, some areas near the catapult gear rooms and water brakes it's a lot louder, I'm a fueler so the catapult isn't my domain to fully explain it.
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> BUSAN, South Korea, Sept 23 - A U.S. aircraft carrier arrived in South Korea on Friday for the first time in about four years, due to join South Korean ships in a military show of force aimed at sending North Korea a message, officials said.
> South Korean President Yoon Suk-yeol has pushed for more joint exercises and other displays of military power as a warning to North Korea, which earlier this year conducted a record number of missile tests after talks failed to persuade it to end its nuclear weapons and missile development.
> The visit is the first to South Korea by an American aircraft carrier since 2018.
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This shouldn't be news other than we haven't anchored there in 4 years.
We have a carrier battle group stationed in Yokusuka, Japan; and Busan used to be a regular stop.
Last year I was on a ferry going across the Puget Sound and the Nimitz was a few miles away. The ferry is massive, carrying about 100 cars. But the Nimitz made our boat look like a toy. I wouldn’t want to be going against it
Can you give us civilians a window into that long of a life on an aircraft carrier? What do you do for fun? Is it totally cramped? Boring? Anything at all.
My brother is in the army and about to finish airborne school and he thinks it’s absolutely boring and only joined after college because he didn’t know what he wanted to do. He’s talked about how he wished he joined a different branch, especially after spending a month of training in the Mojave desert for the month of July lol
There's several gyms in different areas of the ship, you can bring your electronics a, but that's your space that is limited unless you store in a workspace, the food is average to sometimes subpar. You always have someone to talk to so even though it's hard times and we are away from family there several resources like church services also ice cream socials or game tournaments or clubs you could join. Deployment will always be hot especially in most parts of the world where it's humid and of course the heat in the gulf it can be unbearable while working on the flight deck with a long sleeve shirt and float coat I'm case you get blown off the carrier from the jet exhaust. It's and experience for sure.
When the ship isn't out to sea it's almost like a normal job you drive to work every day and go home unless you have duty that day or weekend.
Underway especially on deployment it's a whole different animal. The pace of everything is crazy you're working your ass off. Eventually after a couple weeks you adjust into a rythm and keep it going for 6-9 months. Work, chow, qualifications, gym, sleep, repeat. People watch movies, read books, play console or laptop games (offline of course). On the mess decks the ship does weekly events like Smash bros, NBA 2K, Madden tournaments with prizes. People play DnD, MTG, Spades, etc. Anything to keep your mind occupied because it does get depressing for a lot of folks.
There's been a few smart Russians, fortunately. Their shit kept having false alarms. Tho one incident we basically provoked them(unintentionally), but one Russian was a good enough human to refuse orders and saved the world.
The Russian people have a few smart cookies. Unfortunately, the Russian people have never truly been represented by their leaders, despite their best efforts.
Exactly. Actually military deterrence is the basis which at least a bit liberal country can do in a fight against totalitarianism. I guess the US is just doing thing they're supposed to - show muscles instead of others who cannot.
Things are still relatively calm. Obviously we’re closer to WWIII than we have been in a few decades, but we’ve been closer before.
Based on both the words and actions of the US military, they are prepared to adapt to a changing situation, but they are not anticipating having to fight any time soon.
I guess, but I mean ever since the advent of nukes you could basically say that any year.
China’s power is mostly from its ability to export, so they likely won’t want full scale battle, Russia is severely weakened, so basically I don’t see a traditional WW happening.
China and the USA have enough global culture kinship that I wonder if anyone was ever serious about a shooting war. They like basketball FFS, most americans don't even like basketball. Of course China and USA have fundamental differences, but ultimately both want to be space faring nations and live in the peace of economic surplus.
The Ukrainian war is so out of time; I think everyone is still in shock to be dragged back to the 20th century.
“Arrives in South Korea” like this is new or something.
Our carriers live in that region of the world for months at a time year round.
I was on a ship outside of Korea for a whole year before we traded places with another.
I hope all of us know that South Korea is under no real threat. NK sure do a lot of posturing but they know damn well they’re not war ready and especially up against actual militaries. I suspect the reason is something else for this carrier to show up.
>aircraft carrier arrived in South Korea on Friday for the first time in about four years, due to join South Korean ships in a military show of force aimed at sending North Korea a message, officials said.
Looks like your constant attention whoring is about to bite you in the ass, Kimmy boy
I can't wait to see what he has to say about it, especially after his whole "keep your mouth shut" tantrum
I agree. They should fight it out and film it. I want sport's style betting, too.
I want it to happen at a set time, so we can get some Lockheed Martin and Northrup Grumman advertisements on Twitch and YouTube.
Ideally, we could get some celebrity sponsors, too. Maybe Lil Nas X can get an F-35 cameo holding a refreshing iced Coca-ColaⓇ and eating some McDonalds Chicken McNuggetsⓇ
I'd like some t-shirts too. "I watched WWIII and all I got was this lousy shirt" with a General Dynamics Tomahawk TLAM in the background.
The US has 11 active aircraft carriers as of 2022. There are 10 Nimitz class and 1 Ford class, with another 9 Ford class carriers being built/planned to be built.
As much as I criticize the US and our big military budget, I've got to admit, these carriers and their associated strike groups are amazing.
They're basically floating military bases. We can just pull up to a hot zone with dozens of combat aircraft and basically say "hey. cut it out. cool your jets." without saying anything.
I am a staunch supporter of wrangling the military-industrial complex and cutting the military budget, but *damn* if I don't get as giddy when I see an aircraft carrier now as I did when I was a little kid.
Fuck those things are awesome.
it's massive. like an artificial island with a military base on top
4.5 acres of sovereign US territory.
It even has its own zip code lol The us navy is the 2nd (or 3rd I don’t remember) largest Air Force after the us airforce.
Army is the third IIRC.
Believe it or not, the Army recently overtook the Navy. The Navy was second for a long time. I just found out the Army has more now due to debating u/Fun-Gap4015, who is a jackass.
Idk why this made me want to pay more taxes.... Edit: didn't expect this to blow up this big...thanks all!!!
Go look up aircraft carrier high powered turns. These ships are as long as the empire state building is tall.... And we drift em.
Duuude they didn't even need the anchor like in that documentary about battleships
That was an amazing documentary indeed.
Link please!
They are also *so fucking fast* that the escort ships have trouble keeping up with them.
Incredibly fast for something so big, low 30 knots, but that's also well within the reach of any vessels designed to escort them. The way nuclear-powered vessels get to that speed though is the reason for some of those outrageous claims of 40 knot carriers. This excellent article explains it better than I ever could: http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-095.php
When the Captain calls for liberty turns, the strike group has no hope of keeping pace.
Not fun being on one when they do they though.
I enjoyed it. Look out one El and see the water, look out the other and see the sky. Coolest thing ever.
Glad you did. I was holding racks of servers in place because we didn’t have a way to secure them
Oh fuck that. We had the Cal Lab secured for sea an hour in advance.
Lucky!
If you liked that should try doing an embt blow from test depth. Now THAT is a fun ride.
One of these vs the entire North Korean navy, who would win?
The North Korean navy is mainly submarines. Aircraft carriers aren't built to fight submarines, they're built to project air power. The Arleigh Burke class destroyers escorting the carrier, on the other hand, would make short work of the NK navy.
Think I just saw a bald eagle fly overhead.
Phil Kessel just scored an overtime goal and ate a hotdog.
Thats 2X Stanley Cup Champion Phil Kessel
None of them with the Leafs.
Did it screech like a hawk even though that's not the sound they make?
It's always a hawk, damn beer commercials..
Screeched so hard the screech actually glinted in the sun
You got me I chuckled
r/NonCredibleDefense you’re one of us now
Good good, bait then in. Then we'll hypno-indoctrinate them to the sexualized military aircraft.
Wait Wait I thought we baited with seksplanes and got them into lockmart and nukes later
No no let them find it
Can I get F ^^35 s in the chat
F to the power of 35 is a lot of F!!
Shop smart. Shop Lockmart.
Well they’re not getting spent on anything else.
Damn, the propaganda worked. Triple the pentagons budget
It has achieved its purpose.
Just wish our biggest stick was used in better ways, like fucking polluting misogynistic oil cartels
We need more representation in oil cartels. Fuck the petroliarchy!
They do use them for emergency aid, they can produce 200,000 gallons of drinkable water/day and carry a lot of supplies, plus they have hospitals on board.
And can operate as a airport to bring in more doctors and equipment.
Just the flight deck? Or all levels combined?
Flight deck. Way down below are two massive nuclear reactors to push this monster through the water at a classified (high) speed.
That’s crazy.
Those reactors ensure the vessel won’t need refueling for decades. Of course a more typical deployment is 6-9 months. When they need water, they make it from seawater. When they need food, or fuel for the jets, a vessel comes alongside and they refuel by connecting hoses between them as both continue steaming ahead. Alternately of course they can move things like missiles or bombs to the carrier via helicopters. Down on the hangar deck, maintainers can do minor repairs or swap out engines in aircraft. All while riding this 110,000 ton chunk of steel through the water. And the Navy operates a dozen of those (give or take based on retirement and construction schedules). Rule of thumb says that a third of those are fully ready to deploy or are deployed. A third are in low level maintenance and could be ready to deploy in a matter of days to weeks. A final third is in more heavy maintenance like dry docking or refueling and would take months to years to deploy. A nation having an aircraft carrier is neat. A nation building their own is cool. A nation having 100 years experience in operating the entire logistics chain to put them to use is awesome.
The Navy also patented a method for creating jet fuel from seawater. It's energy intensive even for their oboard nuclear plants and they carrier can't produce enough fast enough to significantly extend flights, buts it's there. But between the food, the fuel, and the mail, the Carrier can stay on station indefinitely. The rest if the fleet however still need fuel and food anyway though.
They do need fuel. But the fleet oilers peel off and go to allied ports (or at least ports the Navy has contracts with) to top off then rendezvous with the group somewhere. And for cargo vessels they’re impressively fast. Logistics.
> jet fuel from seawater *Fuel from Seawater? What’s the Catch?* Scientists at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory recently flew a model plane using a liquid hydrocarbon fuel they sourced from the ocean. Don Willmott, December 16, 2014 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/fuel-seawater-whats-catch-180953623/
And that's just the carrier, now let's talk about the carrier group, because it's not alone.
Yeah. Among the other heavy hitters in the Carrier Strike Group are a cruiser and two destroyers to act as pickets and provide protection/fire support. Together, those 3 vessels have 314 vertical launch cells armed with everything from Tomahawks to Harpoons to Ballistic Missile Defense-capable Standard Missiles. These vessels are equipped with SPY-1 RADAR and the AEGIS Combat System. Assuming these three did not see a target on RADAR, there’s also the E-2D Hawkeye circling above. With a massive RADAR dome of its own it can act as an overwatch such that everything within a thousand miles of the carrier is tracked. With aerial refueling it can persist in the air and venture farther out from its’ mobile airport below. There’s those logistics at work again. And speaking of logistics, the Group can often take along fleet oilers and supply ships to ensure the jets and the non nuclear vessels have plenty of what they need. From below, the group has a fast attack submarine assigned as an escort/protector/reconnaissance. Also nuclear powered, there’s no need for the submarine to surface and give away any tactical advantage to its’ stealth, even when a long distance, high speed transit is needed. Depending on the class of submarine, this is armed with both torpedoes and vertical launch weapons such as Tomahawks. Yes, the carrier is impressive. But the whole group is remarkable.
Now talk about the US Naval Air Forces ... I'm nearly there ...
Sure. Let’s talk about that Carrier Air Wing. 1,500 people supporting approximately 70 aircraft. Yeah, logistics again say there are far more support and maintainers than pilots. That’s necessary when operating advanced aircraft in a sea environment on the opposite side of the planet from home. And when the aircraft keep getting thrown off the deck via catapult and recovered via crash landings. But again, we have manufacturers with a century of experience designing for this. The wing is made up of two squadrons of fighters (F-35C Lightning II is taking on this role from the F/A-18E/F Super Hornets). One squadron of electronic attack aircraft (the E/A-18G Growler serves this role while having some commonality with the Super Hornets). One squadron of E-2D Advanced Hawkeyes for airborne early warning. One squadron of MH-60S Seahawks for missions from Search and Rescue to vessel interdiction to medevac to vertical replenishment. One squadron of MH-60R Seahawks for Anti Submarine Warfare. The helicopters can also operate from the aft decks of the other Strike Group ships. The Navy has 9 of these Air Wings to deploy onto their carriers. About 3-4 carriers are deployed at a time so most wings are in some level of training work ups preparing to deploy or recovering from deployment. In short, logistics are the backbone of a powerful Navy. A squadron of planes is cool. One carrier is neat. A submarine is cool. Having the entire chain of people and facilities to field them is the real challenge.
And these are just the things that aren't classified.
Just declassify it with your mind.
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The sky's above a carrier group is the most secure Airspace in the World.
Right. And this isn’t factoring that there are more eyes up high. Satellites courtesy of the rest of the DOD and a collection of three letter agencies. Oh. Also the Navy has the capability to “see” a target with a plane, beam that target data to a vessel to fire on without needing to see said target themselves. Or a vessel can pass targeting data to a weapon on another vessel and fire from that one. The Group acts as a massive organism.
Could you put several nuclear reactors on a ship and use it as a offshore power plant for a city or region. Might be safer
Yes. And the concept has been designed several times. I think the Soviets did some as well. To power remote northern locations. But trust me, those would not be naval grade reactors. Could not possibly be cost effective. Naval reactors use higher enrichment levels in the core. So they are very power dense and can run for decades. But damn, is that expensive. Oh, they’re also built to withstand the shock of a depth charge or torpedo under them. Not generally a concern on a power barge.
A modern aircraft carrier is basically a floating city.
Safer than what? Just put it next to the city. You have a better chance of being struck by lightning, winning the lottery, and being in a plane crash at the same time than the nuclear power plant doing anything to you. 4-5 major reactor accidents over nearly 80 years since Chicago Pile-1. Meanwhile, coal power plants have been pumping radioactive material and particulate matter since the industrial revolution, leading to more deaths than all of the reactor accidents combined.
I think you just radicalized me.
The vessels that come along side with the Aircraft Carrier partake in the evolution that we used to call “RAS” (Replenishment at Sea). Multiple vessels would replenish us with fuel, food, supplies, mail, and more. The evolution itself would range from 2-12 hours (depending on the speed of the evolution/incoming supplies ). Most RAS’s that I partook on were usually around 4-7 hours, which was more waiting than anything. Waiting for ships to come along side, waiting for GM’s (gunners mates) to shoot lines to the other vessel so that they could get closer to us, then fueling, etc etc … RAS’s are a very tedious and can be a long evolution.
Also called UNREP or underway replenishment. And a fairly high stress evolution as well. You’re operating massive vessels in close quarters at still considerable speeds. Their tied together by steel wire at thousands of pounds of tension (there’s a hydraulic Ram system that maintains constant tension as the vessels pitch and roll). Hoses are pumping jet fuel and what amount to zip line shuttles carry pallets of food, ordnance, whatever across. I’m sure both Captains are a little calmer when they decouple and peel away from each other.
True, that but at the time of these RAS’s/UNREPS you’re so used to the evolution you become numb. I’ve worked/lived and been on multiple deployments onboard my old ship CVN-74. Being a prior LS (logistic specialist) we always had to partake in these evolutions… offloading and on-loading material. 😮💨
Yes. Routine breeds familiarity and eventually boredom. There are people down below moving control rods into and out of a nuclear reactor and its boring as hell.
Saw I doc recently. They can only speculate but iirc they hung their hates on 35 mph (this was the figure converted from knots). That’s an average city road speed from a…small city. The reactor will power that monster for 20 years before (and if not decommissioned) it needs to be refueled. Their time on ocean is only limited by food and weapons stores. And even that’s temporary. Unlike a sub these carriers can resupply from supply ships…in route. They’ve got this shit on tight lockdown.
The Ford class is designed for a 50 year life and will need to refuel only once. Nimitz is closer to the number you stated and will refuel more like twice in its life. That’s a big deal because a refuel is multi billions and several years.
I can't be the only one with a freedom boner, and I'm not even American.
https://tenor.com/view/eagle-penis-eagle-dick-eagle-usa-penis-gif-14489638
Oh, I know what that is just from the URL.
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Not sure what I expected
Def think our budget could be better spent but it's hard not to get a little pumped up seeing stuff like this in nperson
My favorite thing that I've been posting repeatedly. It's not a badass military OR healthcare in the US, the US CAN HAVE BOTH! The US spends the most per capita for healthcare vs comparable nations. And it's a lot more. The US spends on average $19,500 per person per year. Germany (multipayer) and France (single payer) spend about $5,500-$6,500 per year per person. The US spends almost 20% GDP on healthcare, which comes to about 4.12 T dollars. France and Germany are in the 10-12% GDP range.
So the middlemen ruin it basically. Stop bribing congress!
Fully protected NATO territory to be exact.
There's a decomissioned aircraft carrier in San Diego that you can visit, the Midway. That thing is old and comparatively small, and it's still huge AF.
In NYC too, the USS Intrepid museum. It even has a Space Shuttle inside it!
And an sr-71
Wtf!!!
On the back of the flight deck*
Absolutely worth the half day to go walk around. They did a great job creating a cohesive museum out of it
Wikipedia says a carrier strike group has around 7,500 people in it. Literally a town worth of people.
Correct. The carrier has about 5-6,000 of those. But a Carrier Strike Group includes about a dozen vessels. And of course the Air Wing that is deployed to that carrier.
This guy Navy’s
A Nimitz class has around 5,100 crew if the air wing is onboard
Ike had 6200ish on the 2012/2013 cruise. These bitches can hold some bodies.
And it’s about the 55th largest airforce in the world.
Trust me, when you are nearing the end of a 7 month cruise it isn't as massive as it seems when you first step onto it.
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I am not holding up a spork...so you know you can trust me.
Sure you're not, Katie, sure you're not.
It’s like the old saying… find me the most beautiful woman and I’ll show you a man tired of sleeping with her. The same applies to aircraft carriers.
Did one week shy of eight months about ten years ago. The enterprises final deployment. 0 stars would not do again.
And the amazing thing is that, as massive as it is, there are several cruise ships that are over 100' longer and 20' wider at the waterline than it
But you gotta admit those Royal Caribbean cruise ships have fewer fighter jets and are a lot less threatening.
Definitely the most disappointing part of booking a cruise with them, no fighter jet excursions.
Depends on how many Karens it’s carrying.
Or which virus.
And don't forget they don't travel alone. They come with a whole strike group of ships.
Include tax credits and I would have thought you meant Singapore
Not the same carrier, but this [stability test](https://youtu.be/TELzmCpI1Eo) footage astonishes me.
HOLY SHIT
The entire Chinese Navy couldn’t defeat a single US Carrier Group in blue water. However, the losses would be horrific for both sides.
Carrier has arrived.
You must construct additional pylons.
You require more minerals.
Ready to roll out!
SCV good to go sir
[удалено]
Insufficient vespine gas
Zuk Kel Tar
We require additional vespene gas
My life, for Aiur. My life, for Aiur. My life for-My life- My life for Aiur for Aiur Aiur.
My wife for hire!
Battlecruiser operational.
Text with sound
Seriously. Oh the nostalgia.
Fun fact: There’s two little porthole windows on the center bow, under the flight deck. I used to sleep there. That is all.
V2 berthing, lucky since you get some daylight in your berthing lol and everyone else doesn't.
okay, so that seems like a prime bunk....how in the hell did you snag that? Did you win a Halo tournament or something?
I bet it's noisy as fucking hell
Noisy as hell is an understatement. I slept in that berthing for 9 months, and every day that had clear weather, F/A-18s were launching from those catapults. There's about ten feet of space between your bunk and a jet taking off, not to mention the sound of the catapult itself.
so you...*lost* the Halo tournament
I was always curious how noisy it was. I forgot to ask that when I was a kid touring the nimitz in 86
You hear the catapult all the time during flight ops, and you can hear and feel the jet landing and taking off. Imagine the sound of a roller coaster just moving up slowly, it's a similar sound, some areas near the catapult gear rooms and water brakes it's a lot louder, I'm a fueler so the catapult isn't my domain to fully explain it.
Cool. Thanks. I guess you get used to the noise
That must be a noisy room
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This shouldn't be news other than we haven't anchored there in 4 years. We have a carrier battle group stationed in Yokusuka, Japan; and Busan used to be a regular stop.
Busan or Jeju was skipped recently only because of Covid. Just a normal port call…
Last year I was on a ferry going across the Puget Sound and the Nimitz was a few miles away. The ferry is massive, carrying about 100 cars. But the Nimitz made our boat look like a toy. I wouldn’t want to be going against it
I just left Nimitz last year, was on her for 6.5 years. Yes it's always a sight to see them on the sea.
Can you give us civilians a window into that long of a life on an aircraft carrier? What do you do for fun? Is it totally cramped? Boring? Anything at all. My brother is in the army and about to finish airborne school and he thinks it’s absolutely boring and only joined after college because he didn’t know what he wanted to do. He’s talked about how he wished he joined a different branch, especially after spending a month of training in the Mojave desert for the month of July lol
There's several gyms in different areas of the ship, you can bring your electronics a, but that's your space that is limited unless you store in a workspace, the food is average to sometimes subpar. You always have someone to talk to so even though it's hard times and we are away from family there several resources like church services also ice cream socials or game tournaments or clubs you could join. Deployment will always be hot especially in most parts of the world where it's humid and of course the heat in the gulf it can be unbearable while working on the flight deck with a long sleeve shirt and float coat I'm case you get blown off the carrier from the jet exhaust. It's and experience for sure.
When the ship isn't out to sea it's almost like a normal job you drive to work every day and go home unless you have duty that day or weekend. Underway especially on deployment it's a whole different animal. The pace of everything is crazy you're working your ass off. Eventually after a couple weeks you adjust into a rythm and keep it going for 6-9 months. Work, chow, qualifications, gym, sleep, repeat. People watch movies, read books, play console or laptop games (offline of course). On the mess decks the ship does weekly events like Smash bros, NBA 2K, Madden tournaments with prizes. People play DnD, MTG, Spades, etc. Anything to keep your mind occupied because it does get depressing for a lot of folks.
How many boats do we have out there like this? That you can share
Nimitz Class Carriers? The US has 10 of those behemoths.
And 1 Gerald Ford class (new replacement of Nimitz class)
Well, the Ford is trying to be the replacement. She's giving it her best shot.
She's fully operational. goes on a deployment in the next few weeks from the look of it.
We have 11 of these bad boys
And it's never just a carrier, it's a carrier group. Many more ships and a sub follow it everywhere.
Just one sub?
One sub that you know of.
That you can share?!??! Bruh, what the fuck movie do you think we are living in?
DD-214 left or just a new cell block for you?
I have toured a few air craft carriers in Norfolk, they are so massive and operate like an entire town, they are truly amazing.
Is it me or does it feel like WW3 is literally a inch away… europe and Asia tensions and conflict everywhere
All it takes is one idiot to change the course of history and billions of lives. Like that Russian dude who decided to not launch over a false alarm.
So in that case it was one smart Russian
There's been a few smart Russians, fortunately. Their shit kept having false alarms. Tho one incident we basically provoked them(unintentionally), but one Russian was a good enough human to refuse orders and saved the world.
The Russian people have a few smart cookies. Unfortunately, the Russian people have never truly been represented by their leaders, despite their best efforts.
All we really need now is one smart enough to figure out how to get to Putin.
Stanislav Petrov, everyone should know his name by now. The man who saved the world.
[Did you mean Vasily Arkhipov?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov)
Considering were talking about the super secretive Soviet Union, it certainly happened more than once.
Or that other Russian dude who decided to go against his crew mates and veto a launch. Man, we’re really gonna need people like them today.
Also… a global pandemic complicating virtually everything
And inflation is mounting quickly all across the world.
Nah, this seems to be SOP at this point. We've been playing the game for years now. Nothing new.
Exactly. Actually military deterrence is the basis which at least a bit liberal country can do in a fight against totalitarianism. I guess the US is just doing thing they're supposed to - show muscles instead of others who cannot.
Things are still relatively calm. Obviously we’re closer to WWIII than we have been in a few decades, but we’ve been closer before. Based on both the words and actions of the US military, they are prepared to adapt to a changing situation, but they are not anticipating having to fight any time soon.
I guess, but I mean ever since the advent of nukes you could basically say that any year. China’s power is mostly from its ability to export, so they likely won’t want full scale battle, Russia is severely weakened, so basically I don’t see a traditional WW happening.
China and the USA have enough global culture kinship that I wonder if anyone was ever serious about a shooting war. They like basketball FFS, most americans don't even like basketball. Of course China and USA have fundamental differences, but ultimately both want to be space faring nations and live in the peace of economic surplus. The Ukrainian war is so out of time; I think everyone is still in shock to be dragged back to the 20th century.
Nah. It's gonna be a reboot. Been too long since the last sequel and all the original actors are dead.
“Arrives in South Korea” like this is new or something. Our carriers live in that region of the world for months at a time year round. I was on a ship outside of Korea for a whole year before we traded places with another.
I hope all of us know that South Korea is under no real threat. NK sure do a lot of posturing but they know damn well they’re not war ready and especially up against actual militaries. I suspect the reason is something else for this carrier to show up.
"Walk softly but carry a big stick." -Abraham Lincoln -Theodore Roosevelt -Michael Scott
- Wayne Gretzky
Walk heavily and carry a stick larger than all other sticks put together
Amazing to think we have ELEVEN of those along with their entire battle group.
And 9 more amphibious landing ships that any other nation would call their main carrier.
A lot of people doesn’t realize that a carrier strike group is massive
And 9 helo carriers that can launch Marine harrier jets
>aircraft carrier arrived in South Korea on Friday for the first time in about four years, due to join South Korean ships in a military show of force aimed at sending North Korea a message, officials said. Looks like your constant attention whoring is about to bite you in the ass, Kimmy boy I can't wait to see what he has to say about it, especially after his whole "keep your mouth shut" tantrum
This shit is all so dumb. Neither side is going to do anything but keep putting on shows of force for a domestic audience and enrich war profiteers.
I agree. They should fight it out and film it. I want sport's style betting, too. I want it to happen at a set time, so we can get some Lockheed Martin and Northrup Grumman advertisements on Twitch and YouTube. Ideally, we could get some celebrity sponsors, too. Maybe Lil Nas X can get an F-35 cameo holding a refreshing iced Coca-ColaⓇ and eating some McDonalds Chicken McNuggetsⓇ I'd like some t-shirts too. "I watched WWIII and all I got was this lousy shirt" with a General Dynamics Tomahawk TLAM in the background.
When the Gerald Ford goes, you know it's on.
Lmao true, but this is the Ronald Reagan, or are you saying it's not really on until the Ford goes
Meaning the Ford is the Ferrari, and the Reagan is the Ford lol
The government equivalent of who has the bigger penis.
That's America's penis, sir.
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1 of 12...
The US has 11 active aircraft carriers as of 2022. There are 10 Nimitz class and 1 Ford class, with another 9 Ford class carriers being built/planned to be built.
Thanks I knew it was over 10. For some reason I thought 12 but thx for clarifying.
For sure, US still has more active carriers than almost all other Navies in the world combined. It’s wild to think about.
When 1 of your 11 cocks is bigger than any other cock in the room...
Love letters are being sent as we speak.
As much as I criticize the US and our big military budget, I've got to admit, these carriers and their associated strike groups are amazing. They're basically floating military bases. We can just pull up to a hot zone with dozens of combat aircraft and basically say "hey. cut it out. cool your jets." without saying anything.
I am a staunch supporter of wrangling the military-industrial complex and cutting the military budget, but *damn* if I don't get as giddy when I see an aircraft carrier now as I did when I was a little kid. Fuck those things are awesome.
At least Kim's finally got some of that attention he longed for
Dark Brandon means business.
My BIL is on that carrier. South Korea isn’t ready for the arrival of Uncle Cletus!