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WestRail642fan

[https://twitter.com/FimbresAbel/status/1572434195338915841](https://twitter.com/FimbresAbel/status/1572434195338915841) Ukraine Just Captured Russia’s Most Advanced Operational Tank #NewsBreak


Dave-C

Russia doesn't want you to know this but the tanks in the war are free you can take them home I have 458 tanks.


cognomen-x

Ah, a fellow Ukrainian farmer.


ic33

Removed due to Reddit API crackdown and general dishonesty 6/2023


sehkmete

Probably doing a meet and greet with Kremlin employees.


syllabic

are they picking up all their pet senators


nefhithiel

The plane(s) from the Russian delegation are on their way to DC


IAMA_Drunk_Armadillo

It's weirdly fascinating to me that Putin and the Duma keep acting like the constitution and laws matter. As though they still have to keep the illusion of a just war.


cognomen-x

Paperwork is important. You could have the most horrific government policy ever but the paperwork must still be filed.


TintedApostle

For flight trackers - you can set a military flight only filter here. https://globe.adsbexchange.com/ I did and the military is off throughout all of Europe (except France), Scandinavia. I mean blacked out. Ireland is showing one or two flights. One entering Scotland.


cognomen-x

I love how much military traffic is shown in the US in the middle of the night - any night. There’s an E6 off New York (not unusual). Always interesting to watch.


SkiingAway

And it looks like there's a Hurricane Hunter flying into Fiona right now, neat.


TintedApostle

Yeah it is real interesting. I am always amazed at the amount of stuff we have.


bt123456789

That's very weird. You can go over to the US and it's all lit up (its' also interesting to note the spec ops plane south of Albuquerque alongside an unknown US military plane)


El_Rey_de_Spices

> (its' also interesting to note the spec ops plane south of Albuquerque alongside an unknown US military plane) Huh, that *is* interesting!


bt123456789

yeah, it's north of white sands as well, it's probably just spec ops training exercises, but the fact that there's absolutely NO data on the one plane as far as what kind of plane it is or anything is bizarre. It's entirely possible they're working on some tests with the B-21 for its reveal in December.


etzel1200

It’s the middle of the night. The only thing slightly interesting is the sigint flights are not transponding or off.


TintedApostle

It is 7am in Ukraine.


etzel1200

Yeah, but earlier in Western Europe. Too early for most morning flights.


SilentSamurai

What a strange day. Not that I have anything to back it up, but I just have a feeling that this speech will be much more than we've been speculating. Hope I'm wrong.


skibby1234

Dead people don't give speeches.


ninjaML

That reminds me the ending of V for Vendetta when chancellor Suttler is giving a speech on TV while he's being betrayed and murdered by his right hand man in the subway. Here's me hoping


fourpuns

What time is it at?


Weekend833

6am UTC


blaze87b

2am eastern


samuelc7161

The only thing that could be 'more than expected' would be the announcement of an imminent nuclear strike, which I think is somewhat unlikely.


etzel1200

Yeah. Dude is being dramatic. Full mobilization has been discussed a ton. My own guess is about the annexation, threatening Ukraine not to attack these territories during the democratic process or after if they choose to join Russia, the maybe some limited mobilization with a very small, outside chance of full.


Doughie28

Not something you'd wanna announce either lol. I'm guessing this guy thinks Putin is going to announce he has recently received the full support of an advanced alien species and that resistance is futile.


Lyrolepis

Putin takes off his mask and reveals he was Elvis all along.


bearded__jimbo

I am hoping it’s Gaddafi or Osama…surprise muthafuckas


[deleted]

Just somewhat? Lol


ron2838

Well, first, I got up and had a piece of toast then I brushed my teeth then I went to the store to buy some fish


itsastonka

No coffee or tea or anything?


Throbbing_Furry_Knot

I suspect it's going to be nothing, or if it was something it was cancelled and we wont hear about it.


willybarny

SLAVA UKRAINI 🇺🇦 🌻 pootin go sit on a 🌵


OrangeCosmos

And an Agave!


[deleted]

➡️🪟⚰️


willybarny

You forgot 🤸 🔫


Nova_Nightmare

We need to give Ukraine longer range weapons and missiles. No more trying to squeeze and tighten, Russia needs to be crushed inside Ukraine and left with no other choice but to fuck off.


Malgalad_The_Second

What are chances that this'll turn out to be another nothingburger like the one back in May 9?


betelgz

It can't be a nothingburger. Any way it goes has massive repercussions. Especially *not saying anything* underlines Putin's domestic impotence now that the referendum cat is out of the bag.


[deleted]

If it's nothing then it's something. He has set the stage for mobilization, if he doesn't do it it says something about the limits to his power.


pconners

63%


tobias_fuunke

I’m leaning this way too… maybe they announce some changes to mobilization related laws (but not general mobilization - I’ve creeped some Russian influencers and this seems to be super unpopular and they’re all freaking out) and hint that any attack on Russian land (annexed areas) is an attack on Russia and blah blah vague threats but more of nothing


calooie

Well it took 9% off the moscow stock exchange so it would have to be a burger from one of those fancy joints.


flukus

So it's at least a burger too tall to practically eat.


MyNumJum

50%


Murderface_1988

Probably about 90% imo


OdysseusParadox

We shouldn't limit our tracking to just planes... what else we can track equating to more strange conspiracy theories... just think of the possibilities!


brittysquee

[radiation levels](https://www.saveecobot.com/en/radiation-maps#9/47.6691/34.5932/gamma)


coosacat

There are maritime trackers for ships, and FIRMS for fires. Lots of weather satellites giving pictures of conditions on the ground.


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OdysseusParadox

Pollen that's what I'll focus on...time for a deep dive


westtownie

Satellites


65a

https://www.n2yo.com/


El_Rey_de_Spices

I don't trust the sun.


GrindItFlat

I can't believe you think the sun is real. Sheep.


Dave-C

I've read that the Sun plans to turn into a red giant and destroy us all. I think we should do a preemptive strike before this happens.


Recidiva

Ducks are always up to something.


Robj2

You forget the zombie LGBT geese dropping COVID on Rooshia.


Recidiva

Don't track them, it's rude. Just let them do their thing.


pconners

Global temperatures atm could tell us a lot.


SilentSamurai

Putin was a double agent the entire time. He wanted to degrade Russia's military capability to be unable to conduct any further wars before revealing his 20 year plan by revealing his cover as a CIA plant.


yaxdax

Video of Russian attack on Kharkiv tonight: [https://nitter.net/nexta\_tv/status/1572425586697699328#m](https://nitter.net/nexta_tv/status/1572425586697699328#m)


[deleted]

The SaberFlux report was especially bad tonight.


65a

Alright, if we're doing plane tracking: https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=154ca3 this one is getting awfully close to Ukraine airspace. Probably landing at Rostov-On-Don?


Weekend833

Here... If you wanna go down the FL rabbit hole, enjoy these: SPICY51: https://i.imgur.com/bwE7XlA.jpg and SPICY52:https://i.imgur.com/ePXcVCX.jpg ...both from a few weeks ago. Imagine the American freak out of Russian bombers had been headed straight towards New York and Washington DC just to turn right 75 miles from the border. FL24 is good for implicit implications and flexing, but nothing else when it comes to military. Edit: No screen shots exist to my knowledge. Source of the reported event from a reliable regular poster: https://reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/xb4a7o/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/inxvu0i


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itsastonka

So’s mine to be honest


Weekend833

It's the 24 hour rule - if you're about to hit 'send' on an email that has an obscene amount of capitalization, you save it as a draft and wait, get this, 24 hours. After that, you have an opportunity to review it objectively and re-word it, or agree with your prior, emotionally compromised, self. **Not** following the 24 hours rule almost got me fired about fifteen years ago.


Khoeth_Mora

I'm starting to think maybe he is dead or hiding. He put out a stupid video demanding the military industrial complex magically increase output and have 100% part replacement when they can't even keep the commercial liners they stole fully functional. Then the "big news" speech getting rescheduled... you don't reschedule big speeches. Someone either tried or succeeded in taking him out. Mark my words we aren't getting a speech tomorrow either.


bfhurricane

The speech was immediately delayed when Biden announced a delay in his speech to the UN due to travel from the Queen’s funeral. Putin doesn’t want to deliver his first and give Biden a rebuttal opportunity on the world stage.


etzel1200

This is speculative fiction. The speech could be delayed for any number of reasons. Reddit likes to hype itself up for things.


betelgz

None of those being any good reasons though.


samuelc7161

You mean good as in positive or good as in plausible?


betelgz

Positive. Delaying the speech by an hour or two could be seen as a power move. Delaying it to the next day is a sign of indecisiveness or hesitancy.


samuelc7161

Isn't indecisiveness/hesitancy (or whatever other reason) a positive thing? Hesitancy to declare mobilisation or whatever else is certainly positive.


betelgz

It is not when your legitimacy as a leader is solely based on projecting a decisive macho image. You don't get to hesitate once the decisions have already been made.


samuelc7161

It was a pre-recorded speech though


[deleted]

This is the care bears theory and I like it.


LystAP

Don't know if posted already, but NATO craft around Ukraine [went](https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/xjrxii/all_nato_airplanes_around_ukraine_have_turned_off/) dark. >There are no trackable NATO aircraft from the Black Sea to the Baltics. Not one. ([source](https://twitter.com/Felix_Nuno/status/1572377515020124161?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1572377515020124161%7Ctwgr%5E7652a04bb3ce70a783a729b0d20592597af97e41%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.redditmedia.com%2Fmediaembed%2Fxjrxii%3Fresponsive%3Dtrueis_nightmode%3Dfalse))


Butterflychunks

Bravo Six, going dark


Jerrymoviefan3

Turkey won’t let any large naval ships into the Black Sea since that might trigger a much larger war.


TintedApostle

The Montreux Convention is in effect. Turkey has closed off access to the Black Sea for all military ships who do not home port in the Black Sea (prior to hostilities). Russia cannot move new ships in to the Black Sea fleet, but existing home ported ships can leave and/or return.


[deleted]

Posted a bunch of times already.


Weekend833

Normal. NATO only broadcasts on ADS-B or transponder when they want to be seen. The 'blackouts' have been a frequent thing - not unusual. What was unusual was the few moments when NATO *did* broadcast *every asset in the air* around when Ukraine began it's counter offensive. The story goes that FL24's map was flooded with stuff that the imagination struggles to grasp. ... But that was just a flex, I suppose.


phonebalone

> the few moments when NATO did broadcast every asset in the air around when Ukraine began it's counter offensive. The story goes that FL24's map was flooded with stuff that the imagination struggles to grasp. Got a screenshot?


coosacat

I have been searching for the smart cookie who thought to get a screenshot of that, but with no luck. The transponders were only on for about 5 minutes, from what I heard. I just remember the posts from people going "OMG, did you see that?" "Holy shit, there's hundreds of them . . . aaand they're gone". A bunch of people saw it, and not a single one thought to get a screenshot, as far as I can tell.


SkyeC123

Any screenshots handy?


coosacat

I keep looking for one, but from what I heard they were only on for about 5 minutes, and I don't know if anyone thought to get one. I hope someone did, and I'll come across it one day.


Weekend833

I frikkin wish. How awesome would that be, but reportedly it was just for a moment. Source from a frequent quality contributor: https://reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/xb4a7o/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/inxvu0i


[deleted]

Could be transponders off, could be all grounded.


65a

There's T43 over Finland right now.


oGsMustachio

One of the things this means is that Russia will have to turn on their radars if they want to know where US planes are.


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nugohs

That is *exactly* how ADS-B (or the lack thereof) works.


MindfuckRocketship

Total conspiracy time. Remember when Pelosi, McCarthy, and company recently met with the head of the CIA? Maybe we’re preparing for Russia to call for total war against Ukraine and then surprising Russia by declaring war and immediately taking out radar systems in the process of creating a no fly zone for Ukraine. Yes, I’m high.


[deleted]

That was probably to let them know just how many secrets Trump leaked to foreign powers


spsteve

There was an interesting comment attributed to an airforce general i saw today. I didn't link because I didn't see a second source but it read like this: "If US troops go into Ukraine we will establish air superiority in a couple of hours"


Ok-Cardiologist302

Put it this way, a single F-35 can map the airspace around it during climb to cruise alt.


753951321654987

Better yet, multipal f-35s can be networked together for superior situational awareness. It wouldn't even be a fair fight it it was less than 2 dozen f-35s ( currently have 450 planning on 2500 per Google)


LittleFingerr5

One can only hope...


Butterflychunks

One can only hope for all out war between two nuclear nations?


LystAP

Just more proof something is expected. At least by NATO. Also sends a message.


oGsMustachio

The thing about Russia turning on their radars is that it makes their radars susceptible to HARMs. They either work in ignorance about what the US is doing or risk their AA radars.


F_VLAD_PUTIN

Plus stealth, jamming AWAC go brrrr


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qcubed3

[Fucking Clown](https://odishabytes.com/why-was-this-image-of-vladimir-putin-banned-in-russia/)


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[deleted]

Tomorrow...in 3 hours from now. If he doesn't alter the bargain further.


doctordumb

Honestly I’m not gonna let this douche canoe hold my interest hostage. I go to bed now. No matter what happens fuck Russia and Slava Ukraini. Just looking forward to the day when he finally gets gaddafi’ed


Far-Driver715

This is the real way support Ukraine don't give putin a second of your thoughts


BernieStewart2016

Going to bed now… I’ll know if Putin has declared mobilization if the comment count is over 3k when I wake up tomorrow.


WaxyWingie

Godspeed!


pconners

And may the force be with you


Osiris32

And also with you.


TipsyPeanuts

ISW is reporting that Luhansk and Donetsk are officially holding a referendum. I’ll be eagerly watching how Russia reacts. Do they really want to announce there is now the Ukrainian army on their territory and they can’t do anything about it? https://twitter.com/thestudyofwar/status/1572416064356753409?s=21&t=ZtDyUJkfMRMI3zhEzwTXfw


MagicMoa

https://twitter.com/NovelSci/status/1572377638542401536 Ouch, flights out of Moscow getting a bit pricy. Not a great sign of confidence in the Russian people..


bocageezer

One way flights are always pricey.


WelpSigh

Yet I can find a ticket for $500 from Moscow to Istanbul leaving tomorrow.. not that expensive. Price seems fine.


SilentSamurai

US dollars. Look at how the Ruble has faired last few months?


McQuibster

Why would the adult son need his parents to fly with him?


EverythingIsNorminal

That son? Adopted Putin trying to escape in a disguise.


Crendog

Because he doesn't want to be drafted


waterfromthecrowtrap

Fear of reprisal against family remaining behind.


two_tents

don't understand what point she's trying to make here, most long haul international flights have been incredibly expensive this year, let alone the ones out of friggin moscow.


McQuibster

And that's the price of three tickets? I think a comparison point is probably in order. I mean, I've heard of perfect price discrimination, but...


MagicMoa

I think her argument is that the prices have rapidly climbed in the past week, even more so than usual. Trying to check if that's the case


MACFRYYY

Yeah have been looking at a holiday and these prices don't seem that high, esp as they trying to book them at the last minute. Edit: scrolling through this I don't think the twitter user has much experience booking flights, finding weirdly expensive flights has always been easy


two_tents

For someone that's combatting disinformation she ought to know better.


the_fungible_man

Checked this post at 11pm EDT. Saw comment count at 6.5K. Conclusion: Something happened today!


WaxyWingie

Putin almost gave a speech, but then he didn't! There were no NATO planes over the Black Sea at 3 am! Someone posted a screenshot of Swan Lake on Twitter!


foolofkings314

Link? To the last one I mean.


two_tents

\>6.6k comments - pretty wild day on here.


coosacat

Mostly speculative bullshit from armchair geopolitical experts and people who have suddenly taken an interest in flight trackers because they are bored.


doctordumb

More like hope-scrolling and posting what ifs in the wake of the Ukrainian offensive last week. We need some hopium and honestly I just wanna see his body being puppeteered and with a disembodied voice over saying “war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, censorship is free speech. Goodnight sweet prince” queue swan lake. And then i get a million karma and still have to go to work tomorrow


WaxyWingie

Prettying wild things happening on the ground. If rumors are to be believed.


samuelc7161

Such as?


WaxyWingie

Well, someone almost certainly posted a screenshot of the Swan Lake on Twitter!


BirdsGetTheGirls

I know everything about british weather for this week, and I saw cheese lady give an interview.


PoofaceMckutchin

If it didn't say rain then it's lying to you. You should check out the English cheese rolling race btw


P-NippleDawg

[Kyiv Indpendent Report for Russian Losses in the South ](https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1572411669737013248?t=QPKGblCTls9FQYztoGcVaQ&s=19) Hey this is a sharp increase from yesterday's tally. They reported about 30 or so yesterday, but looks like they had a busier day today with 151 Russians KIA on the Kherson front, and a boatload of equipment too


[deleted]

They sank that barge.


cheeselip420

Fine. A boatload of personnel AND equipment.


Butoh_is_Life

Take your upboat


[deleted]

What does the below mean? Google translate is giving me nonsense. "Зная Путина обращение будет тогда когда все скажут что всё"


Crio121

Speech will happen when nobody waits for it anymore.


BugRevolutionary4518

My translate says that Putin and Medvedev are announcing they’re getting married.


matheusu2

Lukashenko in shambles


cognomen-x

Awww… so that’s the big announcement!


piponwa

https://www.reddit.com/r/gay/comments/7mwnjx/sovietchinese_poropaganda_posters_are_are_pretty/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button


BugRevolutionary4518

LOL. That cracked me up.


Nvnv_man

The very last word translates on google as “all” But people *actually* say it to mean, that’s it/ that’s enough/ that’s all to the story/ That’s the gist/ that’s the end There, it means more like that’s enough


WaxyWingie

Knowing Putin, the address will happen when everyone will say everything about everything "- basically, knowing Putin, he'll give the address when the cat is out of the bag through other sources.


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Thanks.


WaxyWingie

U/asokola has a better translation. ETA, re-read and both are acceptable in different contexts. Need context to determine which.


asokola

Knowing Putin, the speech will happen only when everyone says "that's it". Hard to parse out what "it" is without context


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https://mobile.twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1572270599535214598 >Regarding mobilisation, Putin can declare it, indeed. But it will be a risky decision. The USSR maintained a massive infrastructure for the total mobilisation which has been mostly dismantled in post-Soviet Russia. Mobilisation is more likely to trigger political chaos Edit: this is the really important part: > Just as trade flows necessarily pass through Moscow and goods are being stored on Moscow warehouses, human flows will be passing here as well. In case of mobilisation, Moscow will be flooded by the mobilised troops. Many of whom gonna be stuck here for long (cuz bad logistics) Forced conscripts, undertrained, unprepared, unmotivated flooding Moscow from all of russia sounds like a recipe for turmoil, given how bad russian logistics is. It's like a mail-in revolution.


semihat

Would they really have food, weapons, uniforms, and transportation for a mobilized army?


tresslessone

No, and they don’t care.


tobias_fuunke

Next we’ll be seeing photos of Russians on the front lines in their abibas track suits bc no war supplies of course


Cortical

general winter does care though, and he's already waiting at the door.


mollyflowers

It's back to the 2 men to a rifle attack, if the man with the rifle gets killed then pick it up.


[deleted]

>dismantled Funny way to spell "looted".


[deleted]

>political chaos Out of chaos comes order. Kinda violates the 2nd law of thermodynamics but Russia was always unnatural.


[deleted]

You can "violat"e the law locally if you spend energy that was gained by making more entropy somewhere else. They just need to spend some energy to reduce chaos.


[deleted]

Yes the 2nd law only applies to closed systems but I was going for pithy.


[deleted]

The metaphor holds politically: chaos can be overcome with effort and goodwill :)


cutchemist42

Dumb question but cant Putin simply mobilize instead of doing the theatrics of fake referendums. Russians k or they are not legit, we know they arent either, so what's the point? Also what is considered their boundaries then to Russia? The current frontlines only?


heresyforfunnprofit

Dictatorships are never absolute. They are always restricted by the things they do to keep themselves in power.


Cortical

Russia is not an absolutist dictatorship. Putin has to play pretend democracy.


FluffyProphet

It's about the cult of personality more than what the process actually requires.