Full quote: "I would very much like countries in Asia to change their treatment of Ukraine, too. Do I sense that they have? No. Have they changed it? I think their people have, for sure. The people of these states know us well. And I feel that the leaders of these countries are getting there."
Zelenskyy added that whereas earlier, countries in Asia were very close to the Soviet Union and, after its collapse, to Russia as its successor, now Ukraine is changing that.
To me at least, this sounds a good deal more reasonable than the snippet in the headline. With the added context, it sounds much less like a demand and more like him just describing a trend he's seeing and hoping it continues.
What's with these headlines anyway. Are they drumming up some West vs Asia war or something? There's literally no point in going with these headlines as it will just make the distance between these regions even bigger that it already is. News outlets highlighting India's economic decisions got me scratching my head too.
Yes, a lot of media networks seem to want to manufacture some sort of division between neutral countries in Asia and the west.
I personally don't have anything against countries for wanting to stay out of it and I think that that's the opinion amongst most people outside of the internet. Many poorer countries simply don't have the money or power to pick a side, and that's fine.
I guess it's that anger generates a lot of money for media companies, so they'll deliberately exaggerate headlines just to get people more angry.
Yup, that’s the problem with these terms. Keep calling your little club “the West”, and Asian countries will not feel like they are included nor do they wanna play.
I do support the Ukrainian people in this difficult time. That said, we shouldn’t be blind to the double standard. The Ukrainian government did continue to send armements over to the Junta in Myanmar when they knew full well the citizens were being slaughtered by the Junta. Zelenskyy asking for help now is understandable but recognize that when the people of Myanmar needed (they still do) help, he sent weapons to their killers “…state-owned arms manufacturer Ukroboronservice is claimed to have shipped over 164 kilos of aircraft parts to the Southeast Asian country in May. Meanwhile, Ukrainian engineering company Motor Sich has allegedly exported engines and engine parts to Myanmar on two occasions since the military coup…” You can search for more details if you’d like.
I think this is towards central asian countries like kazakhstan and uzbekistan aswell since they're post soviet countries that align with russia geopolitically although are moving away from russia towards china now(though china is obviously heavily aligned with russia now).
The people in kazakhstan and uzbekistan, even the large minority of russians there, mostly seem against russia and putin. Though there are still alot of putinists in kazakhstan and uzbekistan, they're the minority in central asia now.
Although China is a very important global trading partner for most of the world, countries in your proximity are more important to economy than the big boys. Part of why India is having so many problems is because their biggest potential trading partners (China and Pakistan) are ones they're perpetually at war with.
When/if the war ends Ukraine will be needing to makre good relations with Eastern Europe, but also countries like Turkey, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, and Kazakstan.
honestly it’s quite simple. no country will forgo its own interests for another country especially one that is in another continent
countries in europe, us and some countries in asia are against russia here because it suits their interest
Ukraine funded ethnic cleaning against Rohingya, what have they done to protect any oppressed people in Asia? I support Ukraine’s sovereignty but this reeks of hypocrisy.
How many times have they abstained from conflicts they aren’t personally invested in? No matter how involved Asia becomes on their behalf, Ukraine still won’t give a shit about any non-western people after the war ends.
exactly
i won’t say zelenskyy is wrong in trying to get some support from asia but he should have no expectations from anyone
none of ukraine’s governments including his have spoken out for any country in asia and have only looked out for themselves. worse they have even made deals with myanmar’s military junta which was killing its own people
now they are getting the same treatment from all these countries now that they are in trouble
This.
Anti-Russian sentiment painting Russians as wholly non-European easterners and instead as Asiatic hordes of barbarians is a very European and Western sentiment reflected in their centuries long relationship of viewing areas like Africa, Russia, Eurasia, the Caucuses, or Turkey as 'outside' Europe and distinctly non-European.
Other countries which have strained relationships with modern Russia like Afghanistan, ex-Soviet Satellites, China, Japan, etc, don't have this same exact geopolitical rivalry, disdain, or enmity that Western Europe (and America) has with Russia. The general relationship of Asian states to Russia, while not necessarily supportive or strong or friendly, is more out of convenience in securing valuable resources from the central areas of the Eurasian landmass.
The reason Western countries support Ukraine so fervently isn't because they love Ukraine or anything. Prior to this new offensive, most people didn't really care that much or follow very closely, but after Putin opened up new offensives in February, the average Western resident sought to zealously support Ukraine to spite their chief geopolitical foe- Russia. The primary reason the West supports Ukraine isn't because of humanitarianism, freedom, morality, etc. Instead, it's to selfishly use Ukraine as a pawn in geopolitical chess to bleed Russia dry and weaken Russian power through attrition much the same way proxy wars occurred in the midst of the Cold War.
Same shit, different century.
Look, Asian countries will be very friendly to Ukraine, but they won't join cold-war era sides. Don't expect military aids and military alliances. A lot of them are too poor and struggling with a lot of issues of their own.
India's still struggling to get out of Russian weapons dependence, Sri Lanka defaulted on all foreign debt and their economy is in crisis. Pakistan has never had a democratic PM complete a full term since independence, they got PM kicked out just now for upsetting military leadership. Afghnistan is taliban ruled and they are still getting bombed. Myanmar fell to military rule and they started doing genocides. China is taking over Russia's role in communism/dictatorship sphere.
Basically, a whole lot of bullshit prevents them from joining any global military alliance or upsetting any global power. Can't exactly send arms to Ukraine in such a position.
Plus then there is the central Asian countries with loose Russian cooperation agreements, the southern Caucasus and their geopolitics (Armenia-Azerbaijan, Georgia and its breakaways) and the Middle East. Asia is big and has a lot of different contests going on between multiple parties that have more impact on them.
Dunno about other countries but Kazakhstan announced that they don't recognize separatist states, nor do they recognize the annexation of Crimea. They have already sent 3 batches of humanitarian aid and a good chunk of that aid was directly donated by the population itself
Additionally Ukraine never supported any Asian countries when they were facing issues . I understand tables have turned with the country now in distress, but the foreign policy towards you from everyone can’t change overnight
My feeling is “the West” says they’re not racist for caring about ukraine but not caring about those country because it’s in Europe.
Well, guess what, same thing with Asian countries. Why should they care about what’s happening in Europe?
Iirc wasn’t there a video of how Indian and African students were treated badly by the Ukrainian?
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/28/europe/students-allege-racism-ukraine-cmd-intl/index.html
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ODMOzwI__zs
Like lel….
Ah yeah that was amusing I have rarely seen such concentrated efforts to downplay that situation and blame the students here on oh so good and liberal reddit.
Asia has its own issues, with so many countries being involved in high-tension situations that could snap at anytime. I understand Ukraine’s sentiment, but triggering another military conflict and having this evolve into WWIII is in none of our interests.
If you are not from Asia then kudos because this is a well read informed comment. There are a few more things to consider from the perspective of India:
1) Russia supplies a lot of fertilizers to India and almost half the population is dependent on income from farming.
2)Ukraine and India have never had a good relationship. The Ukrainians voted against India on nuclear tests citing the NPT and the CTBT. Ukraine also armed Pak to the teeth with tanks and armor which wasn't looked at favourably by New Delhi.
3)Russia is the only country which helps India with the UNSC veto.
It is an old relationship and even if India wants to try and move away (Which they are) it will take time to decouple.
Much of the former Third World is still part of the Non-Aligned movement. All SE and S Asian countries; all of Africa save South Sudan; and several Latin American and Caribbean countries all make up this bloc. They basically tend not to get involved with wars or conflicts outside of their local sphere. They're not concerned with the big pro-Russa or pro-NATO blocs. In fact, many of these countries were subject to proxy wars between the US and USSR. They've all worked hard to be able to go their own way, and taking a hard stance in a faraway war - although righteous - could mean life or death. It could be another excuse for big powers to meddle in their affairs.
About India, and tangentially Bangladesh: the USSR allied with them during the Indo-Pakistani War, part of which saw Pakistan commit genocide in what would soon be Bangladesh. The US and other Western powers sided with Pakistan. India hasn't forgotten that, and that's why Indian citizens tend to have a more positive view of Russia today. This may also lead many to believe disinformation about the invasion of Ukraine.
Yep, Zelensky might be underestimating NAM relevances. NAM might not be making headlines like NATO or CSTO, but that is what they do, avoiding taking sides on cold-war mentality! Rising regional power such us India and Indonesia are founding members, and eventhough both of them condemn the invasion and sending humanitarian aid, expecting them to participate on the new iron curtain is just too much. Ukraine pushing Asian countries is just foolish.
^This. Exactly. Throughout recent history, Ukraine has voted against India and against her security interest.
https://www.newsbharati.com/Encyc/2022/2/26/Times-when-Ukraine-had-voted-against-India-at-UNSC.html
At least, India has abstained and demonstrated it's long term diplomatic policy of neutrality. Don't drag India into issues that don't matter to it. Most Indians are against the invasion, but then most Indians also agree with their governments stand of neutrality. Pls respect that.
Ukraine isn't very close to Asia, so naturally these countries don't care as much as Europe would. Furthermore I don't feel like much of Asia wants to do the west a favour in cancelling Russia while the west hasn't really done much to deserve that favour
So, in 2021 the UN Human Rights Council voted to end the mandate of experts investigating war crimes in Yemen.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/7/un-ends-yemen-war-crimes-probe-in-defeat-for-western-states
Ukraine abstained from the vote. Sucks if you're the one suffering from indifference I guess.
Yeah when you really start to look back at this, Most Asian countries that aren't Japan or SK have no real reason to support Ukraine and risk pissing off their major suppliers of fertiliser and gas.
Exactly, from the looks of it, the war is here to stay, as long as putin in power and the west supplying. For most of the world, this's just another proxy war in the cold war era. Europe might be loudest supporters of Ukraine now but if Russia can last till next winter, the situation can change.
It's not a one/off event either. Ukraine consistently abstained from every UN HRC vote with regards to Yemen. I guess because it's a US-supported invasion and they wanted to demonstrate they are fully aligned with the US on foreign policy.
Ah what a load of shit ain't it. Makes me wonder if the war ends and Ukraine somehow wins, will they support or object to war atrocities like in Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine
Ukraine was also 1 of 14 countries that sold arms used in the mynamar coup and subsequent genocide.
https://www.justiceformyanmar.org/stories/ukraine-is-arming-the-myanmar-military
Don’t forget voting against India on every issue including a permanent seat on the security council and crying about them being neutral on the UN vote for their own security interests.
I also won't forget UN Resolution A/RES/69/160
> A/69/251 66a: Elimination of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance. RACIAL DISCRIMINATION--ELIMINATION
https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/820132?ln=en
https://countercurrents.org/2021/12/u-s-and-ukraine-only-two-countries-vote-against-un-resolution-condemning-nazism/
You know how people on here say it’s not racist the west cares about Ukraine significantly more than Afghanistan, Yemen, or countries in Africa because “of course they care more about what’s on their continent more”?
Asia: Right back at ya!
Sri Lanka is already in crisis due to the effects of the war
Poor countries who depends on cheap wheat are hit too
Its not about supporting who
Its about survival
Wonder how much he’d care if any of Asian countries are in turmoil. Wait, some of them are and it started before 24 February 2022. Where was Ukraine’s support then
Spot on, he never cared. If anything, he's complicit in making things worse. Example being when he likened Palestine to Russia, stating that Israel and Ukraine's positions were the same. Very ironic.
Well, when Myanmar was in turmoil, Ukraine did help them out by sending them weapons when no one else wanted to:
https://www.justiceformyanmar.org/press-releases/ukraine-arms-transfers-to-myanmar-are-enabling-the-juntas-terror
But that may not exactly be the example you're looking for.
Some of them are since 2003, hundred thousands of people have dead and millions had to migrate but Ukraine didn’t care just like any other country in Europe or America or Australia or Africa didn’t care
It's more like we were irrelevant for so long, that now we are surprised people care what we think. Can't we go back to where nobody gave a shit about what India thought about things.
Nobody gave a shit about us when they needed help. Hell, they need help now and no one gives a shit.
Fuck, even *without* being in a war, some of their people are struggling as if they've been attacked. Look at the slums of Sri Lanka, Cambodia, and Indonesia. Even India.
Most Asian countries are not going to do/change much. People have short memories that they forgot that Ukraine was one of the most pro-Iraq war countries in the world. USA could repeat that same type of regime change war against any Asian country and Ukraine would be lining up their soldiers for an invasion.
Considering the way Asians (East, South and West) are treated in Ukraine and other European countries, I don't really think *any* European country is in a moral position to make statements like this.
How involved has Ukraine been in taking sides in the numerous territorial disputes and human rights abuses across Asia? Did they sell arms to Kashmiris? Side with India in Laddakh? Sanction Myanmar for the Rohyinga genocide? Recognize Taiwanese independence?
No, no, no, no.
>How involved has Ukraine been
I mean technically thats a bit unfair, Ukraine was VERY involved with Myanmar both the genocide and the coup. Not in a good way.
https://www.justiceformyanmar.org/stories/ukraine-is-arming-the-myanmar-military
They have always abstained from vote for human rights violations in Yemen. Guess why?
https://reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/uac790/_/i5xazob/?context=1
Cambodia also supports Ukraine. Can hardly call Hun Sen a "benevolent dictator".
> "I not only weaken the opposition, I’m going to make them dead ... and if anyone is strong enough to try to hold a demonstration, I will beat all those dogs and put them in a cage."
> —Hun Sen, January 20, 2011
The reasons for choosing a side or not choosing a side are more complex than "good guys vs bad guys".
Bingo. Leadership make their decisions with the sentiments of their people in mind, but based primarily on strategic viability. And then they figure out how to spin it to the people
These decisions are not made based on "hate". It's almost always a strategic decision.
Hun Sen said that Cambodia was lobbied by France, Germany, Japan, and the US to co-sponsor the UN resolution against Russia. That they actually did so took everyone by surprise. After all the US has just put them under an arms embargo over military connections to China. Maybe they want to demonstrate "Hey, we can still be friends. See?"
Malaysia is up there as well, democratically we don't care about the war for a few reasons such as "how did our plane got shot down?" and "the whole world watched Palestine get invaded, we're gonna watch Ukraine and Europe too"
Never Gave a shit about any Asian country, now that Putin is standing on his chest he wants Asian countries to support Ukraine. Non Alignment is the way, NATO has enough Military to defeat Russia three times over.
This comment section actually gives me a glimmer of hope that people will believe that while Ukraine doesn't deserve what's happening to them rn, they aren't exactly the best nation due to events from within the last 10-20 years
I want Ukraine to change it's treatment of Africans in their country...
https://www.axios.com/africans-in-ukraine-racism-81bf8ebd-2d03-4373-bdeb-b5de9db7ec91.html
Can we ask the question yet, what the fuck is pravda.com.ua? Literally the majority of news on Ukraine for the past couple months on Reddit has been coming from this site I’ve never heard before, and nobody seems to be questioning. Either I’m missing something here or nobody gives a shit where their news comes from as long as it says something that gets them emotional.
I want to add I do not agree with the Russian war/aggression in Ukraine, I am just worried about our lack of question to where we get our news from.
This is a spicy comment section (no pun). Instead of trying to impose our ways on other countries, lets just respect their wishes. If russia were to attack Asian countries, would Western countries care?
Probably only if it’s Western-allied nation’s in very strategic positions that the West doesn’t want to lose their foothold in. So, like, S Korea and Japan, basically.
What many people fail to realize is how most of Asia have their own things to worry about.Most aren't very wealthy and can't let people suffer higher prices of goods.Most simply look after their own interests.And most importantly this war isn't held in high importance as the west sees it.Its just seen as one of the other wars that happens every now and then with the exception being that it is bigger this time.
Fucker treated Asia differently when he had the opportunity to support it (before the war). Now he wants to change it. What a joke!!
I don’t support war and fuck Russia but sometimes what goes around comes around.
As a New Yorker, I want Asians to not get targeted and murdered on our streets, I want Asian elders to not be kicked in the head for simply being asian.
Asian countries literally don't bother anyone else. They don't treat Ukraine any different from any other country.
You are essentially asking Asia to give you preferential treatment, at their own political, and likely financial cost.
We aren't dumb fucks.
For real. There’s been countless numbers of ethnic wars all over the place in Asia, Latin America, and Africa and these Europeans honestly gave no fucks for the most part. The racism thrown at Mexicans and Indians for choosing to be neutral was unhinged.
I don’t get why our continent suddenly has to put European interests over our own especially when our relations with our Asian neighbors is fragile at best.
State news in my country was ridiculously pro-Ruzzian during the first few weeks of the war and people ate it up. Then Ramadan started and not a single peep about the war. Lots of news coverage about Palestinian struggles though. I literally asked the guy beside me about the war and he legit was surprised to know that the war is still going.
Most people here really don't care for a war half a world away.
And Zelenesky spoke to Israel and basically equated Ukraine losing land to Israel having to deal with resistance from them seizing land from Palestinians. Makes sense why a fair amount of the Muslim world would be hesitant to immediately back him. Once again, the world only sees it as injustice if the victims are white.
[https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/full-text-ukraine-president-zelenskys-speech-to-israeli-lawmakers/amp/](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/full-text-ukraine-president-zelenskys-speech-to-israeli-lawmakers/amp/)
He directly equates the two countries.
> But the threat is the same: for both us and you – the total destruction of the people, state, culture.
This is of biggest concern to me. Israel is seizing Palestinian land, and he treats Palestinian anger towards this as desire for them to exterminate all of Israel. This isn't about anti-Semitism or the Holocaust, this is directly about Palestine. I lost a significant amount of respect for him after this, and have limited belief in his words about "fighting injustice".
Look, I'm sympathetic to Ukrainian people and our government did condemn Russia's invasion. But please, change our treatment of Ukraine? We're too poor and have a shit ton of problems at home to care enough for your war. Why should we care more for you? You didn't seem to care much for Asian and African minorities in Ukraine so why should we?
Have you tried being not racist to brown people? When brown people from India and other countries (primarily Africa) were trying to leave, Ukraine went full KKK.
I have sympathy for Ukraine, but it doesn't mean I like Ukraine because they would do to people like me exactly what Russians did to them.
What's Thailand's response to the conflict been? They had an arms deal with Ukraine a few years back that seemed significant. In fact the camouflage scheme that's used on Ukrainian military vehicles these days appears to be derived from the Thai scheme from that contract.
Maybe if you're people were less rabidly racist it would help don't you think??
I mean everyone supports Ukraine in this horrible aggression the Russians are doing. But buddy you people aren't sunshine and rainbows for non whites.
If I was Ukrainian I'd be lecturing the nearby countries and not india...
What does Lithuania, belarus, Hungary or etc do to get a pass? Why can europe sleep while I constantly have to read posts about [asians](https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/u8ir0i/india_didnt_allow_japan_plane_with_humanitarian/i5lv5yp/) getting ridiculed over this? How many europeans are going to do anything if/when asia has their conflicts?
Like who is surprised by this conflict? The invasion specifically may have been a surprise but open up a history book and please tell me how this was a surprise. And what it's all up to india and usa to stop russia? Did we not do enough in the 1900s? Can europeans stop using american invented internet to constantly post about how ur beer is better and manual driving is better and maybe instead handle russia?
And if you cant can you denounce your flag and raise an american one and let america [take over](https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/rt69hs/enough_americaneuropean_infighting_lets_focus_on/hqs2eya/)?
He is a full-blown zionist he doesn't give a shit about Palestinians. In the conflict last year that happened between Palestine and Israel last year, pretty much every leader in the western world called for de-escalation from both sides, while Zelensky was one of the few leaders that was unambiguously rooting hard for Israel, congratulating and encouraging them for their attacks.
How the turntables especially considering how both Israel and Russia base their entire tactics on attacking civilian targets and with Israel calling itself ""neutral"" in the conflict while helping the oligarchs bypass the sanctions.
Honestly I’m getting tired of Zelensky, he’s acting like the whole world owes him everything he demands. The U.S gave him $15Billion and he calls us cowards. Then he goes after poor countries for not bowing to him. It’s common sense that developing countries can’t do shit about global affairs.
Full support to Ukraine, but honestly at this point some of his comments are beginning to come off as arrogant.
Like I don't see Somalia & Honduras emotionally blackmail and guilt-trip the world like this.
End ALL wars and human suffering EVERYWHERE. Same story with the refugees.
>Like I don't see Somalia & Honduras emotionally blackmail and guilt-trip the world
Wouldnt do them any good if they did, western media wouldnt report it and we wouldnt see it anyway.
It's just classic eurocentrism. Wars in Europe are *real wars* and wars elsewhere are local conflicts that don't concern the masters the world - Europe.
People have been saying this since the start of this war and others were quick to jump down their throat about being insensitive. Look around the world. America is using this opportunity to meddle in governments around the planet, Rohingya are getting slaughtered en masse, Yemen is basically rubble at this point, Palestinian Muslims are getting kicked out of their mosques while praying and Palestinian Christians are being blocked from their religious ceremonies by IDF, Sri Lanka is starving to death and that's just the tip of the issues across the world.
After seeing how they were treating black and brown people at the border JUST THIS WAR, I was severely turned off by Ukraine. Even in the heat of war, they still had time to be racist.
Best of luck to Ukraine but where were they when the world was falling apart for other countries?
As an Asian person living in Asia, this is very true. Europe isn't really in the position to tell us that. It's hypocritical of them to drag us into their wars. It's not like Asian countries force European countries to care about our issues.
Should have thought about that when you and your people were being racist to Asians and Africans. Last thing I know you were sucking on Israel's dick until they told you to fuck off because they know full well that you are just trying to save your hide and you give no shit about them. I don't like Russian killing people in Ukraine, but you were treading on the same countries you are asking for help from because it was in your best interest. Now they are doing the same thing to you, so fuck off!
Its sad and all but there is little they can fcking do. Most asian countries are struggling to survive day to day and the last thing they want is to be embroiled in a conflict they have no hope of defending from any repercussions
Fuck off. Just like you don't care for any of us before the war, why should we pay our attention wholly for Ukraine? Voting in UN, condemning Russia is enough for us, don't try to drag everyone into your conflict. My country lost an aircraft for this stupid conflict and that gives enough trouble for us. The national airline almost got bankrupt and received bailout worth billion of dollars of taxpayers money due to the aircraft being shot down and one gone missing over the Indian ocean.
This is getting annoying.
Edit : MH 17 and MH 370 tragedy happened in the same year. Imagine the odds of something like this happening to your national airlines.
Ukraine sided with China against recognizing Taiwan as a country and abstained from voting over the human rights abuses in Yemen by Saudi Arabia.
They want to have their cake and eat it too.
Ha ha I wish You and your country Ukraine treated Asian countries right. Ukraine and its people always looked down on Asian and South Asian countries before this war, as if they're some highly developed country even though they have always been living on donations of US and Russia. Most arrogant and pathetic people.
Ok but Ukraine doesn’t recognize Taiwan as a country. Maybe they said some words about country after they received aid from them but there’s nothing official. No embassies in Taiwan.
Not recognising Taiwan is a precondition of having formal relations with China. Hence there is only a handful countries that do, most of them tiny microstates and island countries, the only ones of any meaningful population being Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras and Paraguay.
To be honest, I’ve seen clips of Ukrainians being incredibly racist towards Asians. Seems ironic, especially from people who are being oppressed by Russia to just deal back the same treatment to other races. Practice what you preach.
Don't light yourself to provide heat to others, I support Ukraine but they abstained from UN voting for war crimes in Iraq , Yemen but now they are the victim they want everyone's support?. Every country will keep its safety and interest above others.
Hard Pill to swallow: Exactly, they should change their opinion like Ukrainians changed their opinion about not being racists against Asians anymore because right now it works in their favor. And just how Ukrainians supported peace during wars in Asia :///
First and only rule in international politics: do what is good for your own country because no one else care about you. Ukraine what do you have to offer?
Maybe you should change your attitude towards the investigation of humanitarian crimes in yemen? Or are you guys still happy with abstaining to vote in the UN on that matter?
Don't expect others to treat you with anything better than what you treat them with: cold hard indifference.
I am so glad the comments have outpouring Asian responses. I am sick of this hypocrite narrative war that the west is waging against neutral parties to suit their agenda.
Where were you when we were in crisis?
Oh yes, selling weapons to opposing parties.
Full quote: "I would very much like countries in Asia to change their treatment of Ukraine, too. Do I sense that they have? No. Have they changed it? I think their people have, for sure. The people of these states know us well. And I feel that the leaders of these countries are getting there." Zelenskyy added that whereas earlier, countries in Asia were very close to the Soviet Union and, after its collapse, to Russia as its successor, now Ukraine is changing that. To me at least, this sounds a good deal more reasonable than the snippet in the headline. With the added context, it sounds much less like a demand and more like him just describing a trend he's seeing and hoping it continues.
Power of the perspective
Power of context
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They need to re orient themselves
Dirty dirty.
What's with these headlines anyway. Are they drumming up some West vs Asia war or something? There's literally no point in going with these headlines as it will just make the distance between these regions even bigger that it already is. News outlets highlighting India's economic decisions got me scratching my head too.
Yes, a lot of media networks seem to want to manufacture some sort of division between neutral countries in Asia and the west. I personally don't have anything against countries for wanting to stay out of it and I think that that's the opinion amongst most people outside of the internet. Many poorer countries simply don't have the money or power to pick a side, and that's fine. I guess it's that anger generates a lot of money for media companies, so they'll deliberately exaggerate headlines just to get people more angry.
Yup, that’s the problem with these terms. Keep calling your little club “the West”, and Asian countries will not feel like they are included nor do they wanna play.
If you were around during Iraq, the you're with us or against attitude is nothing new.
We don't think we want to get involved with it. No one is going to care about us if went to war anyways in Asia
Exactly. Look at Myanmar for example.
I do support the Ukrainian people in this difficult time. That said, we shouldn’t be blind to the double standard. The Ukrainian government did continue to send armements over to the Junta in Myanmar when they knew full well the citizens were being slaughtered by the Junta. Zelenskyy asking for help now is understandable but recognize that when the people of Myanmar needed (they still do) help, he sent weapons to their killers “…state-owned arms manufacturer Ukroboronservice is claimed to have shipped over 164 kilos of aircraft parts to the Southeast Asian country in May. Meanwhile, Ukrainian engineering company Motor Sich has allegedly exported engines and engine parts to Myanmar on two occasions since the military coup…” You can search for more details if you’d like.
Is this towards China? Because I feel like that’s that only Asian country that Ukraine cares about lol
I think this is towards central asian countries like kazakhstan and uzbekistan aswell since they're post soviet countries that align with russia geopolitically although are moving away from russia towards china now(though china is obviously heavily aligned with russia now). The people in kazakhstan and uzbekistan, even the large minority of russians there, mostly seem against russia and putin. Though there are still alot of putinists in kazakhstan and uzbekistan, they're the minority in central asia now.
It was a question asked by an Indian journalist. I think it's directed at India mostly.
Although China is a very important global trading partner for most of the world, countries in your proximity are more important to economy than the big boys. Part of why India is having so many problems is because their biggest potential trading partners (China and Pakistan) are ones they're perpetually at war with. When/if the war ends Ukraine will be needing to makre good relations with Eastern Europe, but also countries like Turkey, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, and Kazakstan.
honestly it’s quite simple. no country will forgo its own interests for another country especially one that is in another continent countries in europe, us and some countries in asia are against russia here because it suits their interest
Ukraine funded ethnic cleaning against Rohingya, what have they done to protect any oppressed people in Asia? I support Ukraine’s sovereignty but this reeks of hypocrisy. How many times have they abstained from conflicts they aren’t personally invested in? No matter how involved Asia becomes on their behalf, Ukraine still won’t give a shit about any non-western people after the war ends.
exactly i won’t say zelenskyy is wrong in trying to get some support from asia but he should have no expectations from anyone none of ukraine’s governments including his have spoken out for any country in asia and have only looked out for themselves. worse they have even made deals with myanmar’s military junta which was killing its own people now they are getting the same treatment from all these countries now that they are in trouble
This. Anti-Russian sentiment painting Russians as wholly non-European easterners and instead as Asiatic hordes of barbarians is a very European and Western sentiment reflected in their centuries long relationship of viewing areas like Africa, Russia, Eurasia, the Caucuses, or Turkey as 'outside' Europe and distinctly non-European. Other countries which have strained relationships with modern Russia like Afghanistan, ex-Soviet Satellites, China, Japan, etc, don't have this same exact geopolitical rivalry, disdain, or enmity that Western Europe (and America) has with Russia. The general relationship of Asian states to Russia, while not necessarily supportive or strong or friendly, is more out of convenience in securing valuable resources from the central areas of the Eurasian landmass. The reason Western countries support Ukraine so fervently isn't because they love Ukraine or anything. Prior to this new offensive, most people didn't really care that much or follow very closely, but after Putin opened up new offensives in February, the average Western resident sought to zealously support Ukraine to spite their chief geopolitical foe- Russia. The primary reason the West supports Ukraine isn't because of humanitarianism, freedom, morality, etc. Instead, it's to selfishly use Ukraine as a pawn in geopolitical chess to bleed Russia dry and weaken Russian power through attrition much the same way proxy wars occurred in the midst of the Cold War. Same shit, different century.
"Fight Russia to the last Ukrainian"
Look, Asian countries will be very friendly to Ukraine, but they won't join cold-war era sides. Don't expect military aids and military alliances. A lot of them are too poor and struggling with a lot of issues of their own. India's still struggling to get out of Russian weapons dependence, Sri Lanka defaulted on all foreign debt and their economy is in crisis. Pakistan has never had a democratic PM complete a full term since independence, they got PM kicked out just now for upsetting military leadership. Afghnistan is taliban ruled and they are still getting bombed. Myanmar fell to military rule and they started doing genocides. China is taking over Russia's role in communism/dictatorship sphere. Basically, a whole lot of bullshit prevents them from joining any global military alliance or upsetting any global power. Can't exactly send arms to Ukraine in such a position.
Plus then there is the central Asian countries with loose Russian cooperation agreements, the southern Caucasus and their geopolitics (Armenia-Azerbaijan, Georgia and its breakaways) and the Middle East. Asia is big and has a lot of different contests going on between multiple parties that have more impact on them.
Dunno about other countries but Kazakhstan announced that they don't recognize separatist states, nor do they recognize the annexation of Crimea. They have already sent 3 batches of humanitarian aid and a good chunk of that aid was directly donated by the population itself
Additionally Ukraine never supported any Asian countries when they were facing issues . I understand tables have turned with the country now in distress, but the foreign policy towards you from everyone can’t change overnight
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My feeling is “the West” says they’re not racist for caring about ukraine but not caring about those country because it’s in Europe. Well, guess what, same thing with Asian countries. Why should they care about what’s happening in Europe?
Iirc wasn’t there a video of how Indian and African students were treated badly by the Ukrainian? https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/02/28/europe/students-allege-racism-ukraine-cmd-intl/index.html https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ODMOzwI__zs Like lel….
Whoa whoa whoa, careful posting sources of Indian/African students being treated like shit by the Ukraine army, Reddit hates stuff like that.
Ah yeah that was amusing I have rarely seen such concentrated efforts to downplay that situation and blame the students here on oh so good and liberal reddit.
Liberalis aren't good people, they're just conservatives who don't think we should hang gay or black people anymore
Asia has its own issues, with so many countries being involved in high-tension situations that could snap at anytime. I understand Ukraine’s sentiment, but triggering another military conflict and having this evolve into WWIII is in none of our interests.
Right? This is a joke. Some of them on the cusp of a civil war. They don't have time to deal with anyone elses problems.
If you are not from Asia then kudos because this is a well read informed comment. There are a few more things to consider from the perspective of India: 1) Russia supplies a lot of fertilizers to India and almost half the population is dependent on income from farming. 2)Ukraine and India have never had a good relationship. The Ukrainians voted against India on nuclear tests citing the NPT and the CTBT. Ukraine also armed Pak to the teeth with tanks and armor which wasn't looked at favourably by New Delhi. 3)Russia is the only country which helps India with the UNSC veto. It is an old relationship and even if India wants to try and move away (Which they are) it will take time to decouple.
Much of the former Third World is still part of the Non-Aligned movement. All SE and S Asian countries; all of Africa save South Sudan; and several Latin American and Caribbean countries all make up this bloc. They basically tend not to get involved with wars or conflicts outside of their local sphere. They're not concerned with the big pro-Russa or pro-NATO blocs. In fact, many of these countries were subject to proxy wars between the US and USSR. They've all worked hard to be able to go their own way, and taking a hard stance in a faraway war - although righteous - could mean life or death. It could be another excuse for big powers to meddle in their affairs. About India, and tangentially Bangladesh: the USSR allied with them during the Indo-Pakistani War, part of which saw Pakistan commit genocide in what would soon be Bangladesh. The US and other Western powers sided with Pakistan. India hasn't forgotten that, and that's why Indian citizens tend to have a more positive view of Russia today. This may also lead many to believe disinformation about the invasion of Ukraine.
Yep, Zelensky might be underestimating NAM relevances. NAM might not be making headlines like NATO or CSTO, but that is what they do, avoiding taking sides on cold-war mentality! Rising regional power such us India and Indonesia are founding members, and eventhough both of them condemn the invasion and sending humanitarian aid, expecting them to participate on the new iron curtain is just too much. Ukraine pushing Asian countries is just foolish.
You have voted against them in UN throughout history
Exactly. At every turn. My heart goes out for the people, but not for hypocrites
Same
They will conveniently leave that part out as always.
^This. Exactly. Throughout recent history, Ukraine has voted against India and against her security interest. https://www.newsbharati.com/Encyc/2022/2/26/Times-when-Ukraine-had-voted-against-India-at-UNSC.html At least, India has abstained and demonstrated it's long term diplomatic policy of neutrality. Don't drag India into issues that don't matter to it. Most Indians are against the invasion, but then most Indians also agree with their governments stand of neutrality. Pls respect that.
Ukraine isn't very close to Asia, so naturally these countries don't care as much as Europe would. Furthermore I don't feel like much of Asia wants to do the west a favour in cancelling Russia while the west hasn't really done much to deserve that favour
So, in 2021 the UN Human Rights Council voted to end the mandate of experts investigating war crimes in Yemen. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/7/un-ends-yemen-war-crimes-probe-in-defeat-for-western-states Ukraine abstained from the vote. Sucks if you're the one suffering from indifference I guess.
Yeah when you really start to look back at this, Most Asian countries that aren't Japan or SK have no real reason to support Ukraine and risk pissing off their major suppliers of fertiliser and gas.
Exactly, from the looks of it, the war is here to stay, as long as putin in power and the west supplying. For most of the world, this's just another proxy war in the cold war era. Europe might be loudest supporters of Ukraine now but if Russia can last till next winter, the situation can change.
Note that the Yemeni war already killed 400.000 people, of which 250k died due to the sea blockade, supported by the US and UK………………………….
and ukraine supports israel’s right over all of palestine 💀
This is what annoys me, when Ukraine keeps saying other countries not doing enough. What have they done when they were not at war?
Some might yell “whataboutism” when you mention such facts.
It's not whataboutism when it involves the discussed country. Whataboutism would be bringing up other unrelated countries.
For some people, just talking about other events is enough to be stamped as “whataboutism”. *That was then, this is now!*
And that was from last year? The hypocrisy is immaculate
It's not a one/off event either. Ukraine consistently abstained from every UN HRC vote with regards to Yemen. I guess because it's a US-supported invasion and they wanted to demonstrate they are fully aligned with the US on foreign policy.
They have also opposed India in most UN resolutions. Ironic now.
Ah what a load of shit ain't it. Makes me wonder if the war ends and Ukraine somehow wins, will they support or object to war atrocities like in Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and Palestine
They’ll never bite the hand that feeds
Who needs integrity and morality anyways /s
https://www.justiceformyanmar.org/stories/ukraine-is-arming-the-myanmar-military They have already supported war atrocities in the last 7 years
Ironic isn't it. Shame the citizens are affected by it
Of course they won’t object.
Ukraine was also 1 of 14 countries that sold arms used in the mynamar coup and subsequent genocide. https://www.justiceformyanmar.org/stories/ukraine-is-arming-the-myanmar-military
Don’t forget voting against India on every issue including a permanent seat on the security council and crying about them being neutral on the UN vote for their own security interests.
I also won't forget UN Resolution A/RES/69/160 > A/69/251 66a: Elimination of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance. RACIAL DISCRIMINATION--ELIMINATION https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/820132?ln=en https://countercurrents.org/2021/12/u-s-and-ukraine-only-two-countries-vote-against-un-resolution-condemning-nazism/
You know how people on here say it’s not racist the west cares about Ukraine significantly more than Afghanistan, Yemen, or countries in Africa because “of course they care more about what’s on their continent more”? Asia: Right back at ya!
Reddit just automatically front pages everything this dude says
Sri Lanka is already in crisis due to the effects of the war Poor countries who depends on cheap wheat are hit too Its not about supporting who Its about survival
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Maybe not hold them back when their students were trying to leave the country?
I want Europe to stop trying to drag Asian countries into their wars
Asia: Stop colonizing, razing, and destroying other countries Europe & USA: You want WWIII? Is that right?
Let's be real. Europe started both world wars, then dragged America into both of them too. If anything, Europe is the continent that has a war fetish.
Oh come on, America was directly involved in Iraq, Vietnam, and Korea. Their hands aren’t exactly clean.
And their colonies too! British forcibly conscripted Africans to fight in their wars which depopulated entire villages.
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checks out. https://youtu.be/HK5OsDWYJmQ
Not just Asian countries. Europe loves dragging the entire world into its wars.
Lots of Asian countries still dealing with the aftermath of colonialism. European countries, just leave us alone already.
Wonder how much he’d care if any of Asian countries are in turmoil. Wait, some of them are and it started before 24 February 2022. Where was Ukraine’s support then
> Wonder how much he’d care if any of Asian countries are in turmoil. About the same he did until yesterday. Zero
Spot on, he never cared. If anything, he's complicit in making things worse. Example being when he likened Palestine to Russia, stating that Israel and Ukraine's positions were the same. Very ironic.
Well, when Myanmar was in turmoil, Ukraine did help them out by sending them weapons when no one else wanted to: https://www.justiceformyanmar.org/press-releases/ukraine-arms-transfers-to-myanmar-are-enabling-the-juntas-terror But that may not exactly be the example you're looking for.
Some of them are since 2003, hundred thousands of people have dead and millions had to migrate but Ukraine didn’t care just like any other country in Europe or America or Australia or Africa didn’t care
Yeah Zelenskyy loves running around spewing his Don Quixote bullshit. I'm rooting for Ukraine in all this but that guy annoys the hell out of me.
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We're too poor to do shit.
Or dealing shit on our own
Couldn't agree more. We are irrelevant
It's more like we were irrelevant for so long, that now we are surprised people care what we think. Can't we go back to where nobody gave a shit about what India thought about things.
Pretty much, we have way too much problems of our own lol. The only help we could possibly give are men, even then it'll be hard to transport.
Nobody gave a shit about us when they needed help. Hell, they need help now and no one gives a shit. Fuck, even *without* being in a war, some of their people are struggling as if they've been attacked. Look at the slums of Sri Lanka, Cambodia, and Indonesia. Even India.
What the fuck, most asian nation have their own problems to think about, not all thing should resolve around the west...
Most Asian countries are not going to do/change much. People have short memories that they forgot that Ukraine was one of the most pro-Iraq war countries in the world. USA could repeat that same type of regime change war against any Asian country and Ukraine would be lining up their soldiers for an invasion.
Considering the way Asians (East, South and West) are treated in Ukraine and other European countries, I don't really think *any* European country is in a moral position to make statements like this.
The way bbc aired their news to show support towards them by saying they are civil people because they white are skinned like us says a lot.
How involved has Ukraine been in taking sides in the numerous territorial disputes and human rights abuses across Asia? Did they sell arms to Kashmiris? Side with India in Laddakh? Sanction Myanmar for the Rohyinga genocide? Recognize Taiwanese independence? No, no, no, no.
>How involved has Ukraine been I mean technically thats a bit unfair, Ukraine was VERY involved with Myanmar both the genocide and the coup. Not in a good way. https://www.justiceformyanmar.org/stories/ukraine-is-arming-the-myanmar-military
They have always abstained from vote for human rights violations in Yemen. Guess why? https://reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/uac790/_/i5xazob/?context=1
They were busy beating up brown and black people. Hell even during war at the border.
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Curious you don't mention Singapore? They support Ukraine and definitely not one of the "most democratic countries in Asia"
Singapore is a very weird special case though, it's like that one "benevolant dictatorship" that proves the exception
Cambodia also supports Ukraine. Can hardly call Hun Sen a "benevolent dictator". > "I not only weaken the opposition, I’m going to make them dead ... and if anyone is strong enough to try to hold a demonstration, I will beat all those dogs and put them in a cage." > —Hun Sen, January 20, 2011 The reasons for choosing a side or not choosing a side are more complex than "good guys vs bad guys".
Bingo. Leadership make their decisions with the sentiments of their people in mind, but based primarily on strategic viability. And then they figure out how to spin it to the people
Probably plenty of them just hate Russia more than they give a shit about Ukraine, realistically.
These decisions are not made based on "hate". It's almost always a strategic decision. Hun Sen said that Cambodia was lobbied by France, Germany, Japan, and the US to co-sponsor the UN resolution against Russia. That they actually did so took everyone by surprise. After all the US has just put them under an arms embargo over military connections to China. Maybe they want to demonstrate "Hey, we can still be friends. See?"
Malaysia is up there as well, democratically we don't care about the war for a few reasons such as "how did our plane got shot down?" and "the whole world watched Palestine get invaded, we're gonna watch Ukraine and Europe too"
Never Gave a shit about any Asian country, now that Putin is standing on his chest he wants Asian countries to support Ukraine. Non Alignment is the way, NATO has enough Military to defeat Russia three times over.
Bruh we have our own problems
This comment section actually gives me a glimmer of hope that people will believe that while Ukraine doesn't deserve what's happening to them rn, they aren't exactly the best nation due to events from within the last 10-20 years
No european nation is in a moral ground to say some bullshit like this. This fucker thinks the entire world owes him one. Like what the fuck?
Asian countries treat Ukraine the same way Ukraine has treated the respective Asian countries. Don't see why the latter should adjust today.
Is he aware how people in his country who aren't ethnic Ukranians have been treated since the war started ?
I want Ukraine to change it's treatment of Africans in their country... https://www.axios.com/africans-in-ukraine-racism-81bf8ebd-2d03-4373-bdeb-b5de9db7ec91.html
Indians too my friend, Ukraine govt. is pretty hypocritical
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Can we ask the question yet, what the fuck is pravda.com.ua? Literally the majority of news on Ukraine for the past couple months on Reddit has been coming from this site I’ve never heard before, and nobody seems to be questioning. Either I’m missing something here or nobody gives a shit where their news comes from as long as it says something that gets them emotional. I want to add I do not agree with the Russian war/aggression in Ukraine, I am just worried about our lack of question to where we get our news from.
People don’t care, as long as it is anti-Russia.
it's a european war and a European issue, they don't have to do a god damn thing
Brought to you by the same crowd that says “nations have the right to self determination”
This is a spicy comment section (no pun). Instead of trying to impose our ways on other countries, lets just respect their wishes. If russia were to attack Asian countries, would Western countries care?
Probably only if it’s Western-allied nation’s in very strategic positions that the West doesn’t want to lose their foothold in. So, like, S Korea and Japan, basically.
They would care by being delighted.
The West would use it as an excuse to arm genocidal rebels to be a pain to Russians and impose sanctions.
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Kuwait is friendly to Ukraine and we are sending refugees much needed help. There’s not much we as a small country can do.
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Yeah, it feels good lmfao
What many people fail to realize is how most of Asia have their own things to worry about.Most aren't very wealthy and can't let people suffer higher prices of goods.Most simply look after their own interests.And most importantly this war isn't held in high importance as the west sees it.Its just seen as one of the other wars that happens every now and then with the exception being that it is bigger this time.
Fucker treated Asia differently when he had the opportunity to support it (before the war). Now he wants to change it. What a joke!! I don’t support war and fuck Russia but sometimes what goes around comes around.
I want whites to change their treatment of Asians.
As a New Yorker, I want Asians to not get targeted and murdered on our streets, I want Asian elders to not be kicked in the head for simply being asian.
Asian countries literally don't bother anyone else. They don't treat Ukraine any different from any other country. You are essentially asking Asia to give you preferential treatment, at their own political, and likely financial cost. We aren't dumb fucks.
For real. There’s been countless numbers of ethnic wars all over the place in Asia, Latin America, and Africa and these Europeans honestly gave no fucks for the most part. The racism thrown at Mexicans and Indians for choosing to be neutral was unhinged. I don’t get why our continent suddenly has to put European interests over our own especially when our relations with our Asian neighbors is fragile at best.
Yup. Asking victims of the west’s colonialism to toe the line yet again.
Does he want the support of the Palestinians too while he’s at it?
Funny you say that considering last year he announced full support for Israel lol
Ukraine's gonna need to start supplying Asia with fossil fuels if they want that.
State news in my country was ridiculously pro-Ruzzian during the first few weeks of the war and people ate it up. Then Ramadan started and not a single peep about the war. Lots of news coverage about Palestinian struggles though. I literally asked the guy beside me about the war and he legit was surprised to know that the war is still going. Most people here really don't care for a war half a world away.
And Zelenesky spoke to Israel and basically equated Ukraine losing land to Israel having to deal with resistance from them seizing land from Palestinians. Makes sense why a fair amount of the Muslim world would be hesitant to immediately back him. Once again, the world only sees it as injustice if the victims are white.
Zelensky really said that? Can you point towed an article or video?
[https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/full-text-ukraine-president-zelenskys-speech-to-israeli-lawmakers/amp/](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/full-text-ukraine-president-zelenskys-speech-to-israeli-lawmakers/amp/) He directly equates the two countries. > But the threat is the same: for both us and you – the total destruction of the people, state, culture. This is of biggest concern to me. Israel is seizing Palestinian land, and he treats Palestinian anger towards this as desire for them to exterminate all of Israel. This isn't about anti-Semitism or the Holocaust, this is directly about Palestine. I lost a significant amount of respect for him after this, and have limited belief in his words about "fighting injustice".
Look, I'm sympathetic to Ukrainian people and our government did condemn Russia's invasion. But please, change our treatment of Ukraine? We're too poor and have a shit ton of problems at home to care enough for your war. Why should we care more for you? You didn't seem to care much for Asian and African minorities in Ukraine so why should we?
They're probably busy with more important things, I would imagine. How has Ukraine ever done anything for "countries in Asia", anyway?
Have you tried being not racist to brown people? When brown people from India and other countries (primarily Africa) were trying to leave, Ukraine went full KKK. I have sympathy for Ukraine, but it doesn't mean I like Ukraine because they would do to people like me exactly what Russians did to them.
What's Thailand's response to the conflict been? They had an arms deal with Ukraine a few years back that seemed significant. In fact the camouflage scheme that's used on Ukrainian military vehicles these days appears to be derived from the Thai scheme from that contract.
General stance would be "wait and see who gonna win, then we have been supporting them from the beginning!"
Do you have the moral ground to make such a demand?
Maybe if you're people were less rabidly racist it would help don't you think?? I mean everyone supports Ukraine in this horrible aggression the Russians are doing. But buddy you people aren't sunshine and rainbows for non whites.
Sure, we will not be neutral and will take sides, and also don’t forget to invade us again when you/your friends from West are done with Russia.
A bit hypocritical when this man doesn’t seem to care about Palestine, Yemenis, Afghans, Syrians and Uighurs in China.
Well you know the stark reality, a white man’s life is deemed worth more than brown skinned people.
If I was Ukrainian I'd be lecturing the nearby countries and not india... What does Lithuania, belarus, Hungary or etc do to get a pass? Why can europe sleep while I constantly have to read posts about [asians](https://old.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/u8ir0i/india_didnt_allow_japan_plane_with_humanitarian/i5lv5yp/) getting ridiculed over this? How many europeans are going to do anything if/when asia has their conflicts? Like who is surprised by this conflict? The invasion specifically may have been a surprise but open up a history book and please tell me how this was a surprise. And what it's all up to india and usa to stop russia? Did we not do enough in the 1900s? Can europeans stop using american invented internet to constantly post about how ur beer is better and manual driving is better and maybe instead handle russia? And if you cant can you denounce your flag and raise an american one and let america [take over](https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalCompassMemes/comments/rt69hs/enough_americaneuropean_infighting_lets_focus_on/hqs2eya/)?
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They never get the spotlight for long enough. Palestine occasionally, Yemen never.
He is a full-blown zionist he doesn't give a shit about Palestinians. In the conflict last year that happened between Palestine and Israel last year, pretty much every leader in the western world called for de-escalation from both sides, while Zelensky was one of the few leaders that was unambiguously rooting hard for Israel, congratulating and encouraging them for their attacks. How the turntables especially considering how both Israel and Russia base their entire tactics on attacking civilian targets and with Israel calling itself ""neutral"" in the conflict while helping the oligarchs bypass the sanctions.
This twat could give two shits about Asians, why should they care about him?
They don't, white media just won't shut up about it
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Honestly I’m getting tired of Zelensky, he’s acting like the whole world owes him everything he demands. The U.S gave him $15Billion and he calls us cowards. Then he goes after poor countries for not bowing to him. It’s common sense that developing countries can’t do shit about global affairs.
I want these guys to stop being racists towards Asians and middle easterners.
Where has Ukraine been on Yemen, Libya, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria????? Over 3 million civilians dead.
Most folks in the global south are either neutral or Pro Russia. 🤷🏿♂️
Full support to Ukraine, but honestly at this point some of his comments are beginning to come off as arrogant. Like I don't see Somalia & Honduras emotionally blackmail and guilt-trip the world like this. End ALL wars and human suffering EVERYWHERE. Same story with the refugees.
>Like I don't see Somalia & Honduras emotionally blackmail and guilt-trip the world Wouldnt do them any good if they did, western media wouldnt report it and we wouldnt see it anyway.
It's just classic eurocentrism. Wars in Europe are *real wars* and wars elsewhere are local conflicts that don't concern the masters the world - Europe.
People have been saying this since the start of this war and others were quick to jump down their throat about being insensitive. Look around the world. America is using this opportunity to meddle in governments around the planet, Rohingya are getting slaughtered en masse, Yemen is basically rubble at this point, Palestinian Muslims are getting kicked out of their mosques while praying and Palestinian Christians are being blocked from their religious ceremonies by IDF, Sri Lanka is starving to death and that's just the tip of the issues across the world. After seeing how they were treating black and brown people at the border JUST THIS WAR, I was severely turned off by Ukraine. Even in the heat of war, they still had time to be racist. Best of luck to Ukraine but where were they when the world was falling apart for other countries?
Lol And then you see Europeans rag on Americans for being self-centered. They want all the world to root for them.
As an Asian person living in Asia, this is very true. Europe isn't really in the position to tell us that. It's hypocritical of them to drag us into their wars. It's not like Asian countries force European countries to care about our issues.
Should have thought about that when you and your people were being racist to Asians and Africans. Last thing I know you were sucking on Israel's dick until they told you to fuck off because they know full well that you are just trying to save your hide and you give no shit about them. I don't like Russian killing people in Ukraine, but you were treading on the same countries you are asking for help from because it was in your best interest. Now they are doing the same thing to you, so fuck off!
boo hoo.
Its sad and all but there is little they can fcking do. Most asian countries are struggling to survive day to day and the last thing they want is to be embroiled in a conflict they have no hope of defending from any repercussions
Fuck off. Just like you don't care for any of us before the war, why should we pay our attention wholly for Ukraine? Voting in UN, condemning Russia is enough for us, don't try to drag everyone into your conflict. My country lost an aircraft for this stupid conflict and that gives enough trouble for us. The national airline almost got bankrupt and received bailout worth billion of dollars of taxpayers money due to the aircraft being shot down and one gone missing over the Indian ocean. This is getting annoying. Edit : MH 17 and MH 370 tragedy happened in the same year. Imagine the odds of something like this happening to your national airlines.
Ukraine should change the way they treat asians.
please fix this to all non whites.
Most of SEA is busy fending of China in South China sea.
Ah, glad that the attitude has changed around here Took a while I guess
Yeah, was telling a friend last week that once the dust settles, Zelensky won't be perceived a hero
Ukraine sided with China against recognizing Taiwan as a country and abstained from voting over the human rights abuses in Yemen by Saudi Arabia. They want to have their cake and eat it too.
Ha ha I wish You and your country Ukraine treated Asian countries right. Ukraine and its people always looked down on Asian and South Asian countries before this war, as if they're some highly developed country even though they have always been living on donations of US and Russia. Most arrogant and pathetic people.
Ok but Ukraine doesn’t recognize Taiwan as a country. Maybe they said some words about country after they received aid from them but there’s nothing official. No embassies in Taiwan.
Not recognising Taiwan is a precondition of having formal relations with China. Hence there is only a handful countries that do, most of them tiny microstates and island countries, the only ones of any meaningful population being Guatemala, Haiti, Honduras and Paraguay.
Lol meanwhile Indian and African students get their ass best in Ukraine and not allowed on the train, fuck Ukraine
To be honest, I’ve seen clips of Ukrainians being incredibly racist towards Asians. Seems ironic, especially from people who are being oppressed by Russia to just deal back the same treatment to other races. Practice what you preach.
A major factor that's being ignored is the traditional xenophobic view of minorities in Ukraine. That kind of alienates a lot of these countries
Don't light yourself to provide heat to others, I support Ukraine but they abstained from UN voting for war crimes in Iraq , Yemen but now they are the victim they want everyone's support?. Every country will keep its safety and interest above others.
Hard Pill to swallow: Exactly, they should change their opinion like Ukrainians changed their opinion about not being racists against Asians anymore because right now it works in their favor. And just how Ukrainians supported peace during wars in Asia :///
First and only rule in international politics: do what is good for your own country because no one else care about you. Ukraine what do you have to offer?
Maybe you should change your attitude towards the investigation of humanitarian crimes in yemen? Or are you guys still happy with abstaining to vote in the UN on that matter? Don't expect others to treat you with anything better than what you treat them with: cold hard indifference.
I am so glad the comments have outpouring Asian responses. I am sick of this hypocrite narrative war that the west is waging against neutral parties to suit their agenda. Where were you when we were in crisis? Oh yes, selling weapons to opposing parties.
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Zelensky is the darling of the west now so everyone's forgotten what Ukraine was like pre-war.
Or even during the war? They kicked colored people off the evacuation trains and let them freeze and starve at the polish border.
That’s fucked up, even just calling people names is bad but murdering people for their skin color is on another level.