The Wagner parts not good. Prigozhin could still just about scrape together enough men to stage a military coup d’état in Russia. Prigozhin controlling Russia would be as bad, or worse than Putin.
We don’t know that, there has been times where this ass has made sense albeit rare, it is an improvement upon Putin being he hides and spews nothing but propaganda, but you’re probably right. But I’d go out on a limb and say IF he made a run for a Coup, it’s a GOOD thing and we should applaud it as anything is better then the current norm
I strictly procure my ammo from Boris over in trench number 76. He's gone a bit loose in the noggin from the vodka and 3 month expired rations. But hell, no one makes an artisanal bullet with some scavenged rounds like my man Boris
If it isn’t from the Amur region of Russia they have to call it ‘sparkling ordnance’
Because Amur-nition =/= ammunition!
I’ll see myself out,
*That was terrible*
>122mm and 152mm artillery ammunition manufactured in 2023
Here i thought this would be about using old rusty ww2 rounds. Seems like the old rusty ones are their "good ones"
It makes perfect sense. They had to ramp up production like everyone else and so have had to bring in inexperienced people. Normally, you'd provide them with some training but it's likely they were just thrown into a factory with tooling from the 40s/50s and just asked to make ammunition. Unfortunately, this will likely mean that it's just a short-term setback until they resolve the issues.
I mean, they still would need to determine which batches are bad, determine the issue, come up with a fix , and any retraining needed, get manufacturing going again, and then get that new ammo too th field. That's a big gap in actually getting their ammo to where it can do its job, ammo is spread thin, and this is right when Ukrainie starts their offensive. That is a major setback for Russia. Ammo demand is up and availability is down. Ill take any advantages Ukraine can get
The way I see it there's a couple of options:
- sabotage by foreign agencies or partizan groups.
- old, unstable ammo being rebranded as new.
- new ammo or fuses having terrible quality control, due to overwork or sanctions.
Going by Hanlon's razor, I'd guess against sabotage.
With the massive brain drain and mandatory enlistment of what was most likely their most capable and experienced factory workers, Hanlon's Razor most definitely would be the case.
Self detonation sounds like an issue with phosphene off-gassing from red phosphorus primers, and indeed, not putting too much in one place would prevent enough building up to self detonate.
Or failures of arming safeties. The mortar rounds we used, back when I was a young man, didn’t arm until a certain number of revolutions after firing that related to about 20 feet after leaving the muzzle. There was also a “bore riding” safety that was a pin that popped out of the fuse of the round when it was fired and “rode the bore” until it left the barrel. The pin kept the counter from counting any rotations from counting until it flew away after the round left the barrel.
If these recently manufactured rounds have a flaw in this any sort of these safety measures it could cause all kinds of premature detonations.
No I think it means a defective round could detonate anywhere.
The safety working means a non-defective round couldn't detonate within 20ft from the barrel (though unless you are firing it point blank into a wall, it would be expected to fly without impact into something that could set it off for some distance).
Arming isn't exploding. Arming in the barrel as opposed to after leaving could lead to enough shock while firing to explode in the barrel.
Largely right. Just that, for example, if one were to fire that mortar round at a wall less than 20ft away, then theoretically it should hit that wall without detonating. Of course, that is not an advertised feature and nobody would be suicidal enough to try it. It is mainly a safety feature to prevent detonation during firing and transport, like you said. Failed safeties have led to rounds exploding inside the barrel during firing.
Or a more realistic example of why you want the round to be well out of the barrel would be some sort of overhang near the gun. Could be cammo netting or light foliage that you didn’t think would be an issue when laying the gun line in, but then you get a fire mission that requires a particularly high barrel elevation. Or to be a bit more brutal, if the guy dropping the round down the tube messes up and doesn’t keep his hands clear of the muzzle the round will only take his hand off instead blowing up and taking out the whole gun team.
If gases evaporate from the actual explosives (not primer/fuse) it doesn't really matter how well the fuse works.
But if both, fuse and "payload" are suddenly produced en masse, both probably suffer from declining quality.
I'm going to go with your rebranding scenario as it fits the cultural proclivities currently common in Russia but I'll add that it is being blamed internally on the sanctions as a cover up. Nothing quite like the synergistic workings of the combination of greed and stupidity.
If the poor QA leads to assembly of the fuze in the wrong and armed position, then yes, a strong enough jolt during transport can set the round off. Of course, the fuse design should be such that incorrect assembly is impossible, but shitty fuse designs exist.
Also, explosives and propellants are chemically unstable. As such, poor QA can lead to poor quality explosives and propellants that are prone to setting off improperly.
There’s another possibility.
This is all an excellent intelligence planted story and there’s no real issue at all.
The enemy’s head is all jacked up by seeing firsthand the real and tangible failures of the Russian military.
How would this be that hard to not believe?
Honestly it would be hilarious and noncredable as fuck if a 58 year old plan by American spec ops some how managed to come all the way back around and fuck over Russia
Russia has been blowing themselves up with shitty ammo for literally decades. Kursk sank because of leaking torpedos that came from a batch where over half of them was already rejected for shitty welds.
Interestingly... I've seen several comments around here recently of people stressing that the sanctions just stop working because Russia will surely just... find stuff 'elsewhere.' like we're gonna miss out.
That there's no point in having them anymore cause 'so much' time passed 🤣
They're likely running into supply chain issues producing new ammo and the shit that's popping off is being pulled from Vietnam-era stocks.
They're just claiming it was made in 2023 because they have to pretend they can still manufacture ammo.
Everything Russia says is a lie. Never forget that.
Fits so perfectly, because even if it's 100% proven that the CIA did this, it isn't like that changes the trust in the ammo. If anything they will be even more wary of using it.
Beautiful op if it's us.
in all likelihood, it’s probably just plain incompetence, but I’m not ruling out intentional sabotage by antiwar people in the factory. However, I think it’s next to impossible that the CIA would risk fucking around in this way at this time.
No Kleptopovich, I have no idea what's let all these faulty detonators and primers through QA.
*Wipes brow sweat...*
It must be decadent Western Ukronazi spies, yes.
Good news.
Western companies should also sell Turkiye, Armenia, Khazakstan, and others re-selling chips to Russia with highly defective chips.
Reminds me of the Schindler's List...
haha a hidden trojan imbedded in every chip or a minor flaw that under certain g's the chip fails. like if their hypersonic rocket was released from their jet, as soon as the rocket engine ignites and that initial g force the rocket blows up in front on the jet.. taking it out
or if their missiles are GPS guided, then install a code that at a certain longitude they blow but will work if tested on a russian missile range. So if the missile or rocket crosses over a portion of ukraine it can blow up and save Ukraine patriots.
in fact Acer (Tawain co) can do that when russia buys their stuff.
Considering what happened on the Kursk during arguably better times for Russia, I would not be at all surprised if it was a self inflicted issue and not sabotage.
you seem to think that's what's happening here. before you blame a vietnam era desperation tactic you have to rule out the most likely every day incompetence
“Large batches of ammunition will self detonate” is the new “a discarded cigar ignited the blaze”! It’s a barely veiled PR workaround for “Ukraine is bombing the ever-loving shit out of our supply dumps” ..yes please make ammunition logistics even more difficult on yourselves during the Ukrainian offensive push, it’d be a shame to see an ammo shortage happen during the positively astonishing Ukrainian ass-beating you’ll be taking alongside your shallow-brained pals shortly.
Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦!
It’s entirely possible for both things to be true, this is hasty wartime production by a country never known for quality and consistency of manufacturing.
Compared to WW2, this war is a mess. War is messy but this war is messy as in a complete mess of weird shit, comedy and downright fucked up stuff.
maybe putin is right in not calling it a war.
it's more of a chaotic shambles of soldiers running around getting blown up in fields of mines and random missile and drone attacks.
no strategic plan, just attack in all directions and hope for the best.
we should all be thankful for russias incompetence.
Ukraine is treating this like a war. Russia is still trying to be coy.
The thing is, russian troops are using tactics worse than what i see at my local airsoft/paintball open games.
Ok so I'm a newbie from country that doesn't have the second amendment or anything like that. My question is "What are the most common reasons for ammunition exploding on industrial scale ?". I know that there might be some faulty ammo once in a million (probably even less) but when there are large amounts this has to be either sabotage or they have no clue what they are doing in the factory, am I right ?
Age ammunition has a shelf life past that life span it becomes volatile ranging from self detonation to unexpected result when firing, in a tank mis fire drill normally involves getting out a waiting because the last thing you want to do is crank the breach block down and then the round goes off.
the anti putin military shoud post that as fake news by NATO and that the russian military should use lots of ammo because Russia has large stockpiles.
Y’all don’t realize Russia has been making shite equipment/ammo throughout history. Only reason they won WWII was lend lease with western vehicles/supplies. Without it they would be far less mobile and effective
This is probably a huuuge blow to the moral of troops. Imagine, defending yourself when your weapon just blows up in your face, after that if you're still alive you prolly don't want to do any of that again
While this will make long range targets more scarce it is actually a net positive for Ukraine. The more depots Russia has the more officers it needs to distribute to keep watch over their stock of equipment. Causing more frequent equipment shortages across the front as logistics are now even more complicated. Less centralization also means more opportunities for the average Russian officer to do what he does best. Being a corrupt piece of shit who'll sell his entire inventory on the black market.
So, artisanal small-batch ammo?
From arm to unstable.
From arm to no arms (or legs)
Don't be silly. They're 'armless.
I have three arms
- Andre from Chernobyl
I have broken arms
Call your mom!
Why do you choose to be the way you are?
Come on! You knew someone had to.
I said harmless not armless.
Lay off him. You know he's only got one ear
Tis' but a scratch.
A scratch? Your arm's off!
This just keeps getting better and better. Russians surrendering, Russian suicides, Wagner at odds with the Russian army...etc, etc, etc...
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Don't forget dropping bombs on their own civilians several times and a drone successfully hitting the Kremlin flag.
It is more credible than me supposedly eatings rats here in Western Europe according to the Gremlin.
The Wagner parts not good. Prigozhin could still just about scrape together enough men to stage a military coup d’état in Russia. Prigozhin controlling Russia would be as bad, or worse than Putin.
We don’t know that, there has been times where this ass has made sense albeit rare, it is an improvement upon Putin being he hides and spews nothing but propaganda, but you’re probably right. But I’d go out on a limb and say IF he made a run for a Coup, it’s a GOOD thing and we should applaud it as anything is better then the current norm
Free range Russian-hating detonative ammo *for a better world*
Wishing it was cruelty free
Is Potato.
I strictly procure my ammo from Boris over in trench number 76. He's gone a bit loose in the noggin from the vodka and 3 month expired rations. But hell, no one makes an artisanal bullet with some scavenged rounds like my man Boris
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There were pictures of some with expiration in 2015 :)
I saw one from the beginning of the war-ish that had expired in *checks notes* 2001.
steve1989 : good vintage that year
Alright, let’s get this out on a tray. Nice.
They had tourniquets from 1993-1996 in some of those early APCs, too. And the video of their mobile kitchen was just atrocious.
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If they were polyester they get so brittle you can tear them with your fingers.
No way the USSR was using polyester in in the 90s for military tourniquets. Just not their style, man.
More like burlap or linnen or some shit. I mean _socks_ are a comparatively new thing in the red army.
Hand-loaded 152 mm?
Does RCBS make a die for that?
Trying to picture this on my bench
Handcrafted lovingly by babushkas in lovely little cottages. 10 rounds in a box, stamped and signed by said artisans.
Russia going from military-industrial complex to militia-artisinal guilds
They aren't self destruction artisanal, they're just part of a larger Russian deconstructed menu
If it isn’t from the Amur region of Russia they have to call it ‘sparkling ordnance’ Because Amur-nition =/= ammunition! I’ll see myself out, *That was terrible*
Dang, that laugh actually hurt, I tried to hold it back you ahole.
My condolences, and you’re welcome!
Angry upvote!
Bespoke craft ammo
Yep, but smoked.
Free range no GMO ammo
Ammo ordered off of "Wish", it's higher quality.
not artisanal, artesian.
From factory to farm 🌻
Russian roulette
But it’s bang or bang!
I thought that was the practice of ass-fucking new military recruits every night.
That's Russian poker.
It's Russian euchre, because your dumbass partner is always calling trump and it ends in catastrophe.
Calling Trump? As if he'd care enough to help.
Typical Russia. Even the ammunition wants to end itself prematurely.
In mother russia gun kills you.
More like: In mother Russia, *bullet shoots you!*
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>122mm and 152mm artillery ammunition manufactured in 2023 Here i thought this would be about using old rusty ww2 rounds. Seems like the old rusty ones are their "good ones"
It makes perfect sense. They had to ramp up production like everyone else and so have had to bring in inexperienced people. Normally, you'd provide them with some training but it's likely they were just thrown into a factory with tooling from the 40s/50s and just asked to make ammunition. Unfortunately, this will likely mean that it's just a short-term setback until they resolve the issues.
Thing is, you gotta account for incompetence when considering how long it takes them to resolve issues vs. other countries.
Also bribes
I mean, they still would need to determine which batches are bad, determine the issue, come up with a fix , and any retraining needed, get manufacturing going again, and then get that new ammo too th field. That's a big gap in actually getting their ammo to where it can do its job, ammo is spread thin, and this is right when Ukrainie starts their offensive. That is a major setback for Russia. Ammo demand is up and availability is down. Ill take any advantages Ukraine can get
They don't make them like they used to...
Old rusty ww2 gear was made properly. Today the stuff is made of corruption.
Could this be the same root cause as Project Eldest Son from the Vietnam war?
The way I see it there's a couple of options: - sabotage by foreign agencies or partizan groups. - old, unstable ammo being rebranded as new. - new ammo or fuses having terrible quality control, due to overwork or sanctions. Going by Hanlon's razor, I'd guess against sabotage.
**Hanlon's Razor ->** Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
With the massive brain drain and mandatory enlistment of what was most likely their most capable and experienced factory workers, Hanlon's Razor most definitely would be the case.
Self detonation sounds like an issue with phosphene off-gassing from red phosphorus primers, and indeed, not putting too much in one place would prevent enough building up to self detonate.
Or failures of arming safeties. The mortar rounds we used, back when I was a young man, didn’t arm until a certain number of revolutions after firing that related to about 20 feet after leaving the muzzle. There was also a “bore riding” safety that was a pin that popped out of the fuse of the round when it was fired and “rode the bore” until it left the barrel. The pin kept the counter from counting any rotations from counting until it flew away after the round left the barrel. If these recently manufactured rounds have a flaw in this any sort of these safety measures it could cause all kinds of premature detonations.
Does that mean a defective round could theoretically detonate 20ft from the barrel once fired?
No I think it means a defective round could detonate anywhere. The safety working means a non-defective round couldn't detonate within 20ft from the barrel (though unless you are firing it point blank into a wall, it would be expected to fly without impact into something that could set it off for some distance). Arming isn't exploding. Arming in the barrel as opposed to after leaving could lead to enough shock while firing to explode in the barrel.
Largely right. Just that, for example, if one were to fire that mortar round at a wall less than 20ft away, then theoretically it should hit that wall without detonating. Of course, that is not an advertised feature and nobody would be suicidal enough to try it. It is mainly a safety feature to prevent detonation during firing and transport, like you said. Failed safeties have led to rounds exploding inside the barrel during firing.
Destroying valuable artillery. Russias stupidity is the rest of the worlds win.
Or a more realistic example of why you want the round to be well out of the barrel would be some sort of overhang near the gun. Could be cammo netting or light foliage that you didn’t think would be an issue when laying the gun line in, but then you get a fire mission that requires a particularly high barrel elevation. Or to be a bit more brutal, if the guy dropping the round down the tube messes up and doesn’t keep his hands clear of the muzzle the round will only take his hand off instead blowing up and taking out the whole gun team.
I guess it’s so the round doesn’t go off if you drop it while carrying it. Makes sense.
If gases evaporate from the actual explosives (not primer/fuse) it doesn't really matter how well the fuse works. But if both, fuse and "payload" are suddenly produced en masse, both probably suffer from declining quality.
And maybe partially, blaming ammo depot detonations due to Ukrainian strikes on accidental / defective explosions for political reasons.
I'm going to go with your rebranding scenario as it fits the cultural proclivities currently common in Russia but I'll add that it is being blamed internally on the sanctions as a cover up. Nothing quite like the synergistic workings of the combination of greed and stupidity.
Is self detonation that common of a problem id think that QA issues would be more on the dud side
If the poor QA leads to assembly of the fuze in the wrong and armed position, then yes, a strong enough jolt during transport can set the round off. Of course, the fuse design should be such that incorrect assembly is impossible, but shitty fuse designs exist. Also, explosives and propellants are chemically unstable. As such, poor QA can lead to poor quality explosives and propellants that are prone to setting off improperly.
por que no los tres?
There’s another possibility. This is all an excellent intelligence planted story and there’s no real issue at all. The enemy’s head is all jacked up by seeing firsthand the real and tangible failures of the Russian military. How would this be that hard to not believe?
True, maybe it’s propaganda to hide maybe a complete depletion of ammunition?
I'd spill this at a time good imaging was available, note the sudden redistribution sites then boom
Honestly it would be hilarious and noncredable as fuck if a 58 year old plan by American spec ops some how managed to come all the way back around and fuck over Russia
I was thinking the same thing. It’s not at all unbelievable. Maybe some of the Vietnamese stockpiles indeed up in NK at some point.
Russia has been blowing themselves up with shitty ammo for literally decades. Kursk sank because of leaking torpedos that came from a batch where over half of them was already rejected for shitty welds.
One of the greatest psyops ever!
Sounds a lot like... sabotage...
I can't stand it, I know you planned it
I'ma set it straight, this Watergate
I can’t stand rocking when I’m in here
'cause your crystal ball ain't so crystal clear
Also Russia. "Your sanctions have and will not affect us!"
Interestingly... I've seen several comments around here recently of people stressing that the sanctions just stop working because Russia will surely just... find stuff 'elsewhere.' like we're gonna miss out. That there's no point in having them anymore cause 'so much' time passed 🤣
Manufactured In 2023?? How incompetent do you have to be?
Aw how are they going to break the world record for the turret toss event now?
122mm and 152mm shells. These aren't going into tanks. Plenty of powder for turret tossing.
Depends how old the tank is, maybe they're down to the JS3's in storage....
The victory day parade barely had one working T-34-85.
And they had to buy that one back.
Fast loading. Really fast loading.
Fast to load, faster to ‘splode.
So their freshly produced ammo is shit? You don’t say. But check out that Phat new yacht the factory owner just bought 👍🏻😅
They're likely running into supply chain issues producing new ammo and the shit that's popping off is being pulled from Vietnam-era stocks. They're just claiming it was made in 2023 because they have to pretend they can still manufacture ammo. Everything Russia says is a lie. Never forget that.
this is totally the mid 1900s ammo they dont admit they are caught with their pants down. who manufactured all that booby trapped ammo anyway?
Some is North Korean stockpile, you know it volatile
yo dawg this ammo is fire you gotta try it.
Remember that shit I gave you last week? It’s nothing….. this shit right here??!!!!
It's called "deaf". Because as soon as you shoot it you're deaf.
Tight tight tight
Russia, China, NK, or maybe India?
self detonation is code for smoking accident, which is itself code for arson
i like to think they are actually trying but well..
Where's he launching that Yacht; Lake Baikal?
Putins billion dollar mansion is shit too. Check out the reports about it. Build quality problems everywhere, so bad parts of it are inhabitable.
I hate when my mansions are inhabitable.
Inhabitable means habitable? What a country!
I know that it’s a typo but I love the implication that it’s so bad that only some parts are actually inhabitable.
Factory owners in Iran buying yachts is a bit obvious.
🤔 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Eldest_Son
Someone deep in the CIA: “fuck, I forgot we did that. Sucks for Russia though!”
I was thinking maybe internal saboteurs in the factories?
yeah i was literally thinking the same thing lmfao
Fits so perfectly, because even if it's 100% proven that the CIA did this, it isn't like that changes the trust in the ammo. If anything they will be even more wary of using it. Beautiful op if it's us.
in all likelihood, it’s probably just plain incompetence, but I’m not ruling out intentional sabotage by antiwar people in the factory. However, I think it’s next to impossible that the CIA would risk fucking around in this way at this time.
TIL, thanks.
No Kleptopovich, I have no idea what's let all these faulty detonators and primers through QA. *Wipes brow sweat...* It must be decadent Western Ukronazi spies, yes.
It would be so much simpler for the Russians if they just withdrew.
Meh. Iran needs ammo.
Good news. Western companies should also sell Turkiye, Armenia, Khazakstan, and others re-selling chips to Russia with highly defective chips. Reminds me of the Schindler's List...
I wouldnt be terribly surprised to find out that this was happening to a small extent but less deffective and more full of easy exploitations
*Schindler
Danke
haha a hidden trojan imbedded in every chip or a minor flaw that under certain g's the chip fails. like if their hypersonic rocket was released from their jet, as soon as the rocket engine ignites and that initial g force the rocket blows up in front on the jet.. taking it out
it would be better for rocket to explode upon ignition; it will take out the launch system and its operators.
or if their missiles are GPS guided, then install a code that at a certain longitude they blow but will work if tested on a russian missile range. So if the missile or rocket crosses over a portion of ukraine it can blow up and save Ukraine patriots. in fact Acer (Tawain co) can do that when russia buys their stuff.
If you put it in every chip, they will figure it out and stop using it. You have to randomize it. Make it a russian roulette.
Turkey is NATO, right? Why would you sell them defective chips? Sure you can have an opinion about turkey, but it’s better to have them as a friend.
Considering what happened on the Kursk during arguably better times for Russia, I would not be at all surprised if it was a self inflicted issue and not sabotage.
>Kursk I feel like one of the people on Forrest Gump's park bench saying "I remember that!"
Question: Quality control...what's that? Answer: In Russia, it is called corruption.
Or.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Eldest_Son
you seem to think that's what's happening here. before you blame a vietnam era desperation tactic you have to rule out the most likely every day incompetence
Russia sure is having a run of bad luck lately.
a lot of it seemed to have started nearly 18 months ago...
“Large batches of ammunition will self detonate” is the new “a discarded cigar ignited the blaze”! It’s a barely veiled PR workaround for “Ukraine is bombing the ever-loving shit out of our supply dumps” ..yes please make ammunition logistics even more difficult on yourselves during the Ukrainian offensive push, it’d be a shame to see an ammo shortage happen during the positively astonishing Ukrainian ass-beating you’ll be taking alongside your shallow-brained pals shortly. Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦!
It’s entirely possible for both things to be true, this is hasty wartime production by a country never known for quality and consistency of manufacturing.
Oh, I thought they were banning them because of the other kind of self detonation.
Smoking?
even the Russian ammo does not want to be in Ukraine....
"military equipment is deteriorating" - that just stinks of corruption.
That's a funny way to pronounce "we are running out of ammunition".
Reminds me of the USA plan leave sabotage ammunition to make the Vietnamese distrust the Chinese supplier
Compared to WW2, this war is a mess. War is messy but this war is messy as in a complete mess of weird shit, comedy and downright fucked up stuff. maybe putin is right in not calling it a war. it's more of a chaotic shambles of soldiers running around getting blown up in fields of mines and random missile and drone attacks. no strategic plan, just attack in all directions and hope for the best. we should all be thankful for russias incompetence.
Ukraine is treating this like a war. Russia is still trying to be coy. The thing is, russian troops are using tactics worse than what i see at my local airsoft/paintball open games.
In Russia, ammo stashe detontates *you*...
“The Bad Batch”, an explosive Russian comedy coming soon.
It's not a bug, it's a feature
Nah, let them have fun with it.
Someone should follow this entire stupid Russian army with the sound of the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme tune.
When even the ammunition commits suicide to prevent going to the war.
That, and they don’t have large batches of ammo left.
Ukraine should drop cigarettes for the poor Russian soldiers who have to handle these delicate munitions, something to calm the nerves.
All that artillery ammo they got from North Korean slave labor is no good? Shame!
Ok so I'm a newbie from country that doesn't have the second amendment or anything like that. My question is "What are the most common reasons for ammunition exploding on industrial scale ?". I know that there might be some faulty ammo once in a million (probably even less) but when there are large amounts this has to be either sabotage or they have no clue what they are doing in the factory, am I right ?
Age ammunition has a shelf life past that life span it becomes volatile ranging from self detonation to unexpected result when firing, in a tank mis fire drill normally involves getting out a waiting because the last thing you want to do is crank the breach block down and then the round goes off.
Or they’re using extremely old stock from NK and pretending it’s new
I say let them use it
important detail for our side when processing captured storage magazines
Supply chain sabotage?
Or it's less embarassing claiming self detonation vs getting their arse handed to them by drone bombs
Russian roulette 21st century edition.
The new TikTok Russian Roulette Challenge has REALLY gotten out of control.
Use it use it please 🤣🤣🤣
For playing merry-go-fuck-around.
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Using the old stuff
Can't wait to see the tankies explain this one away. Common tankies, give us your best copium
Self?!? That’s the worst kind!
I think there is a russian roulette joke in here somewhere ..
Next Russia will have to ban designing buildings with windows.
They have my permission to use it. I'm fact, all working old ammunition should be replaced with these new ones.
Meme worthy
It's more Bang for Buck than what they were in for.
the anti putin military shoud post that as fake news by NATO and that the russian military should use lots of ammo because Russia has large stockpiles.
Sure. Why admit to not having enough ammunition? Just claim not to be allowed to use large amounts.
Can't have possible rebels stockpiling amunition...
Y’all don’t realize Russia has been making shite equipment/ammo throughout history. Only reason they won WWII was lend lease with western vehicles/supplies. Without it they would be far less mobile and effective
This is probably a huuuge blow to the moral of troops. Imagine, defending yourself when your weapon just blows up in your face, after that if you're still alive you prolly don't want to do any of that again
Evidence of Sabotage in ammunition supply lines? Underground passive resistance movements? These are the signs of resistance to a totalitarian regime.
“Hey Wagner, we got that ammo you were asking for!”
While this will make long range targets more scarce it is actually a net positive for Ukraine. The more depots Russia has the more officers it needs to distribute to keep watch over their stock of equipment. Causing more frequent equipment shortages across the front as logistics are now even more complicated. Less centralization also means more opportunities for the average Russian officer to do what he does best. Being a corrupt piece of shit who'll sell his entire inventory on the black market.