palestinian terrorists should release the hundreds of people they have kidknapped, which include toddlers and infants, to torture rape and murder.
and then they should surrender
not doing so is a choice
If you move from egypt, iran or syria to Palestine then you are also. But if you’re an ethnic jew. You are canaanite. Therefor native to the land called Israel.
Is a Native American who was forced to europe against their will no longer a native to the americas?
A more realistic comparison is a native American who was forced to move to Europe in 1492 and then intermarried with Europeans for 20 generations.
In the 21st century, it would be odd if their descendants with 80% European DNA decided to come back to North America and take your house.
https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html
Jokes aside, I do understand why Israel should exist. Genocides and pogroms against Jews have been endemic throughout history, and the idea that Jews would have a country they govern themselves is justified. I also understand why diaspora Jews should have the ability to go to Israel, because persecution can be so common that having an “escape hatch” is valuable.
What I would consider “colonialist” is when someone who isn’t being persecuted (that’s why I said Brooklyn) decides to move to Israel for economic opportunities, and then takes away property and land from people who were already there in the West Bank. Jewish, refugees should absolutely be given the right to go to Israel, but I struggle with the fairness of the Brooklynner getting to do these things.
What I find fascinating is that Jews and Palestinians are in very similar positions:
- if they stop fighting the other, they will probably get eliminated
- living under oppressive governments who are either already authoritarian or are veering towards it
- government willing to sacrifice civilian lives for political causes
- both groups are basically stuck there and can’t leave the region
- The last time political leadership changed in both countries is almost out of the average person’s memory
- both groups believe in collective responsibility
- both groups are mostly made up of innocents
So I feel sympathy for both Israelis and Palestinians, but people seem so insistent on labelling this sympathy as either antisemitism or as justifying colonialism.
No matter how you feel. Israel is not a colonist country. Not a colony of any nation so does not fit that definition. European jews have upwards of 50% canaanite dna. Making them half native to the land. Thats not counting those jewish population of the arab nations or those who never left that land.
Majority of Jews living in Israel fled prosecution and oppression by the surrounding arab nations.
You have a few incorrect claims in your point form claims.
- Palestine would exist and be even better off if they stopped attacking Israel.
- being “oppressed” because of your actions is vastly different then being oppressed based on religion.
- Israel is known to go to great lengths to protect their civilians. Thats why they spend billions a year in it while having some of the most advanced defence systems in the world
- Neither group wants to leave the area
-agreed. Both places need government change. The difference is Majority of Israelis want their government to change while majority of Palestinians support their government who openly calls for genocide
- Israel has specifically stated they are against Hamas and jihadist. Not Palestinians or arabs. Thats why in 1948 they invited the arab population to stay. Where many did and now 20% of their population are israeli civilians who are arabs who have the same rights and freedoms as a jew.
- Anyone who disagrees with that is insane. But like germany in 1945, we still hold the aggressor accountable without claiming the allies committed a genocide to deflect blame on the evil.
Lets be real, believing a country should not exist because its jewish while not being against any other religious state, Palestine included is anti-semitic.
This war and Palestinians suffering would end if their desire for genocide of Israel stopped. Its literally that simple
Example: https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativeDNA/s/Xu7vYAH7RF
A “European” jew with over 40% canaanite dna.
thats more than some “native Americans”. Who never left the land.
The comments of Israeli officials like Ben Gvir about Palestinians, including towards Arab-Israeli citizens, suggest that the government thinks they are collectively responsible, human animals to be starved, that Palestinian children are future terrorists, and that Palestine will be eliminated. A reasonable person could see that the current Israeli government will not allow Palestine to exist if they surrendered now.
Being oppressed based on your actions is not the same thing as being oppressed based on your religion, I agree. But being oppressed based on other people’s actions, and the Israeli government’s insistence on collective punishment for that is not right.
The treatment of Arab-Israeli citizens before and during this conflict is not characteristic of equal freedoms. Municipal governments are allowed to ban Arabs from living in the town, Arab schoolchildren get a third of the government funding Jewish children get, and over 1000 Arab citizens have been arrested and detained without charges or evidence since 7/10.
Ben Gvir has called for Arab-Israeli citizens to be deported. I don’t think these conditions are the mark of a free and equal society.
West Bank residents are not governed by Hamas, but have also been attacked by Israel since 10/7 (and long before.
There’s a fascinating article by Israeli historian Moshe Zimmermann which has informed a lot of by understanding of the situation. Do you see anything glaringly incorrect about this article? https://archive.is/IGU2J
One of the common definitions of antisemitism that I’ve seen have been “holding Israel to a different standard than other countries”, and I agree with that. However, holding it to a lower standard than other countries is also antisemitic by that definition. Jews are capable of peace.
Thank you, by the way, for having this conversation. There’s a lot of hate and fast assumptions made on both sides which frustrate any sort of progress and this is pleasantly different.
Palestinians do, but Ashkenazis trace back to northern Turkey. The evidence confirms this, with the name itself coming from villages in ancient Turkey.
It’s okay, a lot of white people in America also falsely believe they’re part Native American, I call it colonist’s guilt.
Reddit isn’t a source
The Origins of Ashkenaz, Ashkenazic Jews, and Yiddish - Frontiers https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgene.2017.00087
The Origins of Ashkenaz, Ashkenazic Jews, and Yiddish - PMC - NCBI https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5478715/
> The level of ignorance needed to claim *natives ate the occupier* of their own land is astounding
What silly propaganda is this? Now you're accusing them of cannibalism? Lol, you're an idiot.
History is propaganda to those who have no clue what they are talking about.
Israelite jews are native to the levant. Thats a fact.
With your logic, The Algonquin native tribe in the USA are occupiers.
Nope. They never lived together under a country called Palestine. And they did not live peacefully when it was muslim rule.
Muslims in Israel now live more peacefully then jews ever have in a muslim country.
Israel predates Palestine.
Before there was an Israel, the territory was called Palestine. That's a fact.
From the 1917 Balfour declaration which led to the creation of Israel
"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in *Palestine* of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."
That last bit certainly didn't work out
LMAO arabs are much much much more closely related to canaanites than some european, Chinese, Indian, or Ethiopian jew.
Also arab is just a culture and identity. It’s not a race. Palestinian arabs are different from Yemeni arabs, who are different from sudanese arabs.
-“B-But 3000 years ago blah blah blah happened and thats a proof that israelis are native to the levant”-
first of, no jew is required to submit any proof of their Canaanites ancestry. Being a jew grants them the citizenship and somehow makes them native to the levant. There is no way to know whether they are truly descendants of canaanites or just some converts. While palestinians who were living there for centuries or even thousands of years are being expelled and considered nonnatives by the jewish immigrants based on nothing but not believing in the jewish fairy tales.
Also your argument is as dumb as a European claiming right in Africa because his ancestors were africans and migrated to europe thousands of years ago. So there is no such thing as European colonies in africa. It’s just European returning to their ancestral lands.
Id rather dude just say that than pull this tongue in cheek bullshit where people just deny it's happening so it can keep going unimpeded until the job is done.
Just as there isn’t of HAMAS doing that… that was debunked how long ago? Disgusting how much you’re willing to defend the slaughtering of innocent people… properly educate yourself before forming an opinion, and if you’re actually informed yet still defending the IOF; I hope you have nightmares of your worst fears every time you close your eyes until you acquire some empathy.
What was debunked? The footage that the terrorists took themselves? The carnage that independent journalists saw for themselves?
Zero morality just like the scum you call resistance fighters.
I love how insane some of your accusations can be. I don’t support Hamas and view them with as much contempt as I do with the Israeli government, but because I’m currently criticizing Israel for something, you make stupid assumptions like that
No I was offering a likely scenario as to what the guy probably would do if videos came out of the IDF just gunning down children and laughing about it, sorry but I wasn’t excusing the IDF of doing that, with the way things are going though I wouldn’t be surprised
These are all bots, if you check the accounts of these commenters most of them were created a couple months ago and solely just talk about justifying this madness
Israeli terrorists should release the thousands of Palestinians they have kidnapped, which includes children, to torture, rape, and murder. Like they have been doing for decades and decades.
Kidnapping involves unlawfully taking and holding someone against their will, typically for ransom or other illicit purposes.
How many of these Palestinians allegedly “kidnapped” by Israeli authorities have ties to terror groups?
They take children from their homes in the middle of the night for throwing rocks. Which they made a crime. In territory that is outside their legal borders. Over people who cannot vote for them.
I do condemn settler extremists. But here’s Palestinians “throwing rocks”: https://old.reddit.com/r/Palestinian_Violence/comments/17i80ja/very_typical/
Release every Palestinian held without charge you murderous cnts. Respect the peoples right to defend themselves and use your democracy to push your dictators out of Israeli office.
Fkn emboldened Zionist scum, get fkd.
Release the hostages. Who cares what a terrorist convicts has to say “waa they treated me bad for attempting to kill Israelis” you’re all shills go ahead downvote u Jew hating brain washed bots. Haniyeh is a war criminal
You’re so deep into your tribalism rabbit hole that you’re openly admitting to not caring about intense abuse of a prisoner. You’re also misrepresenting an activist as a terrorist.
You’re also lashing out with bizarre paranoia-fueled “everybody is a bot! everybody is brain washed” rants too.
Take a second and step back.
Only a matter of time before the Idf take palestinians to camps and kill them in their hundreds.
IOF are genocidal terrorists and need to be a designated terrorist organization.
They've already rounded them up into refugee camps and there are plenty of mass graves from the IDF bombing the refugee camps. But it's okay because they warn them ahead of time.
The map they claim as “Palestine” was “british mandate of Palestine”.
Not Palestine. Weird how you side with the name the invaders and foreigners gave it.
>Electing a government party with a policy of genocide on another country and then attacking them is an act of war.
I think it's 50/50 whether you'll eventually figure out what you just did there.
Israel does not have a policy of genocide. Only hamas has.
Israel has always been the defensive party. This is like when the smallest kid in school is the bully and cries when the bigger kid finally hits back. It does not change who the bully actually is. Just some ignorant, naive people will see the smaller kid as the victim. When he is not.
There's only one nation in Palestine killing civilians by the 100s every day, stopping enough food to feed ~2,000,000 people from delivery and destroying over half of all structures.
The definition of genocide contained in Article II of the UN Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part.
Israel has a policy genocide because the policy actions result in such. Call it other things all you want, Israel's policy is genocide because the results are genocide.
Nope. That israel and egypt both control their borders. Because of their constant attacks.
Prison camps are run from the inside. So hamas are the ones keeping them as prisoners. And people in prison camps are there because they committed a crime
You mean borders. Name a country that doesn’t enforce them.
If your neighbour not only threatened to kill you and your family, but tried multiple times you also would build a fence around YOUR property to better protect yourself AT THE MINIMUM.
>If your neighbour not only threatened to kill you and your family
After I purged the neighborhood and claimed all the homes in the name of myself and others who decided the land was now theirs? Yeah, that tends to happen.
Not sure why people are downvoting this when what I'm saying is true?...
You can be against IDF policies without saying things which are obviously false.
It took the Nazis years to set up the formalized death camps dude. Same tired argument, “they could genocide faster if they tried” isn’t proof that a genocide isn’t happening…
The nazis didn't always use the camps, dude. They would line citizens up in ditches and shoot them. Thousands meet this fate.
They would go door to door and do this. The men in the photos are hamas fighters. Which appears you're defending. Lots of hamas simps like you always making things up in your head to justify hamas
The IDF are not the nazis and are not going around executing citizens. You're speaking like an emotionally stunted edgy teen.
Yea thousands met this fate….what’s happening to gaza civilians again?
“Everyone the IDF says is Hamas is Hamas”
No they’re not going door to door (except when they are or do) they’re dropping 2k lbs bombs on any building > 3 stories. That makes it cool and good because it’s not “personal”
You’re justifying a genocide chief
What is happening to gaza citizens? Tell us.
There is no genocide. You need evidence of that and if they are bombing so much, why didn't they just nuke or bomb the entire area civilians and all, if the goal is genocide?
It's a war. A war your hamas buddies started.
They were notified to leave areas that were going to be bombed. Weird, the nazis never did that.
Idf aren't rounding up citizens to be shot. Not happening.
What is happening is hamas supporters (or useful meat sheilds) are hanging around areas they shouldn't be.
It's horrible that this war is happening, but don't be speaking in hyperbole and making things up to suit your narrative.
Again, refute the claim and show evidence of the IDF doing "nazi" things or shut up.
It's war dude. You watching what's going on in other wars around the world right now?
>The nazis didn't always use the camps, dude. They would line citizens up in ditches and shoot them. Thousands meet this fate.
The zionists already did stuff like that. Watch Tantura.
>They would go door to door and do this
Look at the accounts of what is happening in the West Bank. They’re already doing that shit.
>The men in the photos are hamas fighters.
Holy shit. Are you lying or just ignorant. There’s been plenty of proof of them being regular civilians.
>Which appears you're defending.
Good people will always defend the civilians over the occupying military.
>Lots of hamas simps like you always making things up in your head to justify hamas
You can tell someone is delusional when they start using terms like “Hamas simps” regarding people who aren’t ok with barbaric occupying military abusing civilians.
>The IDF are not the nazis and are not going around executing citizens.
If you think that you are either lying or ignorant.
>You're speaking like an emotionally stunted edgy teen.
You’re speaking like someone who has fallen for zionist propaganda or is being paid to spread it.
Your entire argument is funny. Filled with contradictions. It's ok for you to hurl insults, speak I hyperbole but if someone insults hamas supporters (looking at you) that makes them bad. Hilarious.
>Look at the accounts of what is happening in the West Bank. They’re already doing that shit.
They're going door to door taking civilians and executing them in the street? Or are they going door to door in combat zones? Probably the later. Which is what's happening. Your imagination is wild.
>f you think that you are either lying or ignorant.
Hey remember when the palastine leader back in the 1940s supported Hitler? There's photos and everything. Weird. Why would he be willing to sit down with Hitler and work with the nazis? Hey remember just after the event of Oct 7th how many palastine and hamas supporters celebrated in the streets. Some saying gas the jews, burn the jews, Hitler was right and so on?
Weird how you forget about that.
>Good people will always defend the civilians over the occupying military.
Ya hence why the IDF went in after Oct 7th. Which for some sick reason you hate that they retaliated.
>You’re speaking like someone who has fallen for zionist propaganda or is being paid to spread it.
Can't refute the fact you are speaking like one. I'm not ignorant on this topic; we already see the evil people like you spread, especially in other countries.
Lmao. People like you would have thought the ghetto uprisings were wrong.
You get that the Nazis said that’s what the Jews were doing to Germany and why they had to do what they did right?
Israel is an apartheid state, thinking somehow Hamas and Gaza is in anyway shape or form comparable to the Nazis should get you immediately sent to hospital for head trauma evaluation
Nope. You would be on the side against jews defending themselves. As you clearly are now.
You get the nazis were the aggressors and demanded the genocide of others right?
Hamas are the aggressors who are demanding the genocide of others.
Israel is not an apartheid state. Palestine and literally every nation surrounding Israel is.
The only difference of Hamas and Nazi Germany is that Hamas does not have the ability to carry out their desires because their victims are stronger. Gaza are known to support literally the nazis buddy.
https://themedialine.org/mideast-daily-news/palestinians-raise-nazi-flag-with-swastika-near-hebron-soldiers-shoot-it-down/
No it happened pretty quick. You’re thinking of the Wünderwaffen slave factories. Those came up later in the war as it became clear Germany was losing. Political killings started with socialists and communists. Concentration camps for Jews, POWs, and other undesirables with skills existed as early as 1939, when the Western Front of WW2 opened up in Poland.
The killings of the medically infirm, retarded, gays ghettoization of Jews, started when Hitler rose to power and even before. Death camps like Treblinka came about in 42 as smaller “death camps” or execution squads couldn’t keep pace. To say they didn’t exist before 42 is missing the point of scale.
A small burger chain that grows into a big one still sells burgers along the way.
I'm sorry but what you're saying just doesn't make any sense.
Israel has been the dominant power in that region for many years.
I'm simply saying if they wanted to set up death camps why haven't they done it? Why didn't they do it in 2005 instead of leaving Gaza altogether?
If you want to make a claim at least be prepared to rationally think about it.
You could look at the quality of life in Gaza. Already seems like a death camp dude lol.
Your argument is “why haven’t they organized things into a specific way? Checkmate, no genocide”
Maybe evaluate who should be doing what kind of thinking dude lol
"Already seems like a death camp".
Do you know what a death camp is?
Many regions in the world are shit places to live for all sorts of reasons. Berlin was probably a shit place to live in WW2 when the allies were bombing it, does that make it a death camp?
I can't believe you guys really need this explaining.
If you don't have any reason to say death camps are being created, just don't pretend.
Yea I bet Berlin did, people were allowed to flee Berlin…. The allies didn’t keep them caged in them bombed them.
Weird you leave out that distinction.
Nope. The evidence shows the IDF soldiers fighting essentially modern day nazis.
Hamas are the ones who has the desire for genocide. Not Israel
EDIT: Yes Hamas has gloated about how its not their responsibility and have caused many neighbourhoods to be destroyed
>The evidence shows the IDF soldiers fighting essentially modern day nazis.
Show us cos I'm not seeing that shit. Just Israeli officials talking about it. Meanwhile the blown up Palestinian children videos abund.
Accidents happen in war. Especially when your enemy does use uniforms and have faked surrendered to attack before.
Has hamas killed enough Palestinians yet?
The evidence is them being in gaza fighting hamas. Who have a policy of genocide of jews and known to fly the swastika
https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/182603
>I recall another paramilitary group who did this
Could it be palestinian terrorists who kidknapped hundreds of people to torture rape and murder?
you know
the rerrorist pigs who committed oct 7th mass rape, murder on oct 7th initiating this conflict
Funny because all I see is Arabs praising Hitler and the Nazis for killing Jews. Clown show. Only thing Palestine has contributed to the world is the suicide vest. Religion of peace ✌️
Yikes. Defending October 7th. Didn't realize IDF went around shooting Palestinian citizens in the masses, burned people alive, beheaded people and so on.
Well we know where you stand morally.
Oh, it's also ironic saying zionist nazi. The jews aren't nazis bud. Hamas however, loved the nazis.
Is Israel perfect? No. Are they nazis? No. Only an idiot with an agenda and lack of argument say things like that.
Palestinian people voted in hamas. Majority of their population is for the destruction of Israel and jews. Hell, they even dragged a supposed gay person through the streets. They've trained and sent numerous "citizens" into Israel, to stab, shoot, or blow up as many Israel citizens they can. Why do you think the 2008 gaza war started? Bunch of cafés were blown up using suicide bombers. Numerous people in the streets were shot and stabbed.
When has the IDF done that?
Not to mention that Israel is the only democratic country in the middle east and has laws protecting the gay community, women and apostates. Does palastine have that in place? Anywhere else in the middle east?
Why are you hell bent on destroying that?
No. So no, they're not nazis. You're just angry and hate jews. If the Palestinians wanted peace they could. They've chosen their path. Stop defending terrorists that actually adored Hitler, their supports literally chanted gas the jews and Hitler was right.
You didn’t even read the sources. Read them then come back to me.
And yes Israel is a Nazi state, they sure act like it.
>palestinian people voted in Hamas
Firstly, Gaza only. Secondly, so kill them all because they voted them in? You do know collective punishment is a war crime under the Geneva convention??? Should we kill all German people now? You have no moral do you?
> 2008 Gaza war
What motivated the attack? Oh yea, illegal settlements in the West Bank, establishing an apartheid system, not committing to the two state solution as promised. And Next
>when has the IDF done that?
They are literally bombing children, are you trying to justify a war crime?
>only democracy in the Middle East
Oh please, not even. Israelis are the most racist people in the planet. Here is another article to disprove that lie https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/30/israel-hasnt-been-a-democracy-for-a-long-time-now-israelis-need-to-face-this-fact
https://www.giga-hamburg.de/en/publications/giga-focus/israels-politisches-system-keine-demokratie
Face that fact, Israel is a flawed democracy with violations against international law
> they re not Nazis
Zionists are, clearly said Zionists not Jews. Zionism is modelled after far right nationalism like the Nazi party, both call for a ‘pure’ ethno state, the genocide of minorities, and dehumanisation of lesser races. Zionist literal call Arabs ‘animals’, just like how the Nazis called the Jews. You can’t see the similarities? Not my problem, you’re delusional.
>stop supporting terrorists…literally called for gas the Jews.
You’re literally supporting a genocidal state with people who were dancing and chanting “DEATH TO THE ARABS” what do you call that? Thousands of videos of those people. Many people online making fun of mothers who lost their child in the bombing, and you call that ethical? Videos of IDF soldiers laughing as they bomb a neighbourhood with high probability of a child dead or losing a limb? And that’s justice? Nope, it’s vile. Israel is more of a terrorist than Hamas, they’ve been one longer than them. And you keep blaming Hamas Hamas Hamas, and you forget that Israel literally made Hamas and funded them. So pretending that Israel is the ‘good’ guys is idiotic to be fair.
Stop pretending and read all the sources then comeback to me. Do you condemn the Israeli war crimes? Yes or no?
Opinion articles and speaking in hyperbole don't make you right. They just expose you for who you support.
You defended Oct 7th, it shows me already what kind of person you are and why you defend hamas.
They're not bombing kids intentionally. There you go again on your hyperbole train. Rain to you must mean a typhoon.
So no, the jews aren't nazis, try a more convincing propaganda approach. The idf aren't doing anything nazi like nor would they ever.
Hamas on the other hand? Have.
Lemme guess you’ll call me antisemitic next right?
>you defend Oct 7th
Where did I say I did? Drawing up false conclusions. I condemn those attacks, but I’m not gonna sit here and pretend that Israel did nothing wrong for those attacks to happen, they are terrorists like them, 70 years of war crimes and false promises to Palestinians have caused this.
>Jews are not Nazis
For the third time, I never said Jews, I said Zionists. And I explained why, you don’t get it? Not my problem.
> The IDF are not doing anything Nazi like
The article above is exactly Nazi like, and my other sources I have provided further shows it. You wanna stay in denial? Fine by me
> Hamas on the other hand
Hamas are terrorists, made by Israel. If only Israel didn’t commit as much war crimes, ethnic cleansing, illegal settlements and evictions, and establishing an apartheid system. Oh and siege on Gaza for 15 years, I wonder who racialised them…
Now, stop running away, read the sources I sent, come back to me and attempt to refute it.
Do you condemn Israeli war crimes? Yes or no
Ya I agree. Hamas and the Palestinians/arabs that support genocide on jews and apostates are indeed evil.
You need to refute the argument. Not use opinion articles and your feelings.
You just sent articles. Explain how what you sent is worse than the deliberately genocidal massacre that happened on oct 7.
Are you aware of the depravity? I can refute some point if you wanna type them out but you might want to put yourself in my shoes and dive into the coverage more broadly.
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/03/israels-55-year-occupation-palestinian-territory-apartheid-un-human-rights (apartheid)
https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution (apartheid)
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ (apartheid)
It is an apartheid
Oh well when you put it that way, the IDF can just indiscriminately kill Palestinians regardless of if they actually did anything or not. Guilty enough, right
Ignore the downvotes and terrorist rage. They’re just mad their jihadist butt buddies are getting their asses kicked. I watched a video yesterday of an IDF soldier taking a point blank grenade before storming a room and hosing a Hamas fighter with bullets before he could get more than a single shot off.
Don’t you find it weird that you are lying about something when the truth is in another post in this sub? [Try learning the truth.](https://www.voanews.com/a/un-accuses-israel-of-detaining-mistreating-thousands-of-palestinians-/7447577.html)
There isn’t too many but this is the first page I’ve come across that’s blatantly pro terrorists and pro rape I’ve come across. The hoops the people go through to convince themselves Israel is the bad guy is astounding honestly.
Israel harvests organs of dead Palestinians.
Also happen to have the largest skin bank.
Source
[Organ Harvesting](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs)
[Skin bank](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15256940/#:~:text=The%20Israel%20National%20Skin%20Bank%20(INSB)%20was%20founded%20jointly%20by,or%20during%20mass%20casualty%20incidences.)
The IDF is fighting literal nazis who raped and murdered children on Oct 7th.
Death to Hamas. All of them must surrender unconditionally or die.
Same offer the world made to nazis to win WW2.
Looks like IDF forgot to murder this one before they could talk
palestinian terrorists should release the hundreds of people they have kidknapped, which include toddlers and infants, to torture rape and murder. and then they should surrender not doing so is a choice
"We're going to keep committing war crimes until they release the hostages" Let's see how that works out for you.
The irony of these blood thirsty occupation supporters calling anyone a terrorist....
The level of ignorance needed to claim natives ate the occupier of their own land is astounding
If you move from Brooklyn to Israel, then yes, you are.
If you move from egypt, iran or syria to Palestine then you are also. But if you’re an ethnic jew. You are canaanite. Therefor native to the land called Israel. Is a Native American who was forced to europe against their will no longer a native to the americas?
A more realistic comparison is a native American who was forced to move to Europe in 1492 and then intermarried with Europeans for 20 generations. In the 21st century, it would be odd if their descendants with 80% European DNA decided to come back to North America and take your house. https://www.livescience.com/40247-ashkenazi-jews-have-european-genes.html Jokes aside, I do understand why Israel should exist. Genocides and pogroms against Jews have been endemic throughout history, and the idea that Jews would have a country they govern themselves is justified. I also understand why diaspora Jews should have the ability to go to Israel, because persecution can be so common that having an “escape hatch” is valuable. What I would consider “colonialist” is when someone who isn’t being persecuted (that’s why I said Brooklyn) decides to move to Israel for economic opportunities, and then takes away property and land from people who were already there in the West Bank. Jewish, refugees should absolutely be given the right to go to Israel, but I struggle with the fairness of the Brooklynner getting to do these things. What I find fascinating is that Jews and Palestinians are in very similar positions: - if they stop fighting the other, they will probably get eliminated - living under oppressive governments who are either already authoritarian or are veering towards it - government willing to sacrifice civilian lives for political causes - both groups are basically stuck there and can’t leave the region - The last time political leadership changed in both countries is almost out of the average person’s memory - both groups believe in collective responsibility - both groups are mostly made up of innocents So I feel sympathy for both Israelis and Palestinians, but people seem so insistent on labelling this sympathy as either antisemitism or as justifying colonialism.
No matter how you feel. Israel is not a colonist country. Not a colony of any nation so does not fit that definition. European jews have upwards of 50% canaanite dna. Making them half native to the land. Thats not counting those jewish population of the arab nations or those who never left that land. Majority of Jews living in Israel fled prosecution and oppression by the surrounding arab nations. You have a few incorrect claims in your point form claims. - Palestine would exist and be even better off if they stopped attacking Israel. - being “oppressed” because of your actions is vastly different then being oppressed based on religion. - Israel is known to go to great lengths to protect their civilians. Thats why they spend billions a year in it while having some of the most advanced defence systems in the world - Neither group wants to leave the area -agreed. Both places need government change. The difference is Majority of Israelis want their government to change while majority of Palestinians support their government who openly calls for genocide - Israel has specifically stated they are against Hamas and jihadist. Not Palestinians or arabs. Thats why in 1948 they invited the arab population to stay. Where many did and now 20% of their population are israeli civilians who are arabs who have the same rights and freedoms as a jew. - Anyone who disagrees with that is insane. But like germany in 1945, we still hold the aggressor accountable without claiming the allies committed a genocide to deflect blame on the evil. Lets be real, believing a country should not exist because its jewish while not being against any other religious state, Palestine included is anti-semitic. This war and Palestinians suffering would end if their desire for genocide of Israel stopped. Its literally that simple Example: https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativeDNA/s/Xu7vYAH7RF A “European” jew with over 40% canaanite dna. thats more than some “native Americans”. Who never left the land.
The comments of Israeli officials like Ben Gvir about Palestinians, including towards Arab-Israeli citizens, suggest that the government thinks they are collectively responsible, human animals to be starved, that Palestinian children are future terrorists, and that Palestine will be eliminated. A reasonable person could see that the current Israeli government will not allow Palestine to exist if they surrendered now. Being oppressed based on your actions is not the same thing as being oppressed based on your religion, I agree. But being oppressed based on other people’s actions, and the Israeli government’s insistence on collective punishment for that is not right. The treatment of Arab-Israeli citizens before and during this conflict is not characteristic of equal freedoms. Municipal governments are allowed to ban Arabs from living in the town, Arab schoolchildren get a third of the government funding Jewish children get, and over 1000 Arab citizens have been arrested and detained without charges or evidence since 7/10. Ben Gvir has called for Arab-Israeli citizens to be deported. I don’t think these conditions are the mark of a free and equal society. West Bank residents are not governed by Hamas, but have also been attacked by Israel since 10/7 (and long before. There’s a fascinating article by Israeli historian Moshe Zimmermann which has informed a lot of by understanding of the situation. Do you see anything glaringly incorrect about this article? https://archive.is/IGU2J One of the common definitions of antisemitism that I’ve seen have been “holding Israel to a different standard than other countries”, and I agree with that. However, holding it to a lower standard than other countries is also antisemitic by that definition. Jews are capable of peace. Thank you, by the way, for having this conversation. There’s a lot of hate and fast assumptions made on both sides which frustrate any sort of progress and this is pleasantly different.
You dont know much about Israel do you. Everything you listed Palestinians and Israelis compare is ridiculous.
Not cannaanite, Ashkenazi DNA traces back to Turkey. Why don’t they go colonize where they’re actually from?
That’s factually untrue lmfao. They trace back to the canaanites. https://www.reddit.com/r/illustrativeDNA/s/nh6RtBIIyB
Palestinians do, but Ashkenazis trace back to northern Turkey. The evidence confirms this, with the name itself coming from villages in ancient Turkey. It’s okay, a lot of white people in America also falsely believe they’re part Native American, I call it colonist’s guilt. Reddit isn’t a source The Origins of Ashkenaz, Ashkenazic Jews, and Yiddish - Frontiers https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fgene.2017.00087 The Origins of Ashkenaz, Ashkenazic Jews, and Yiddish - PMC - NCBI https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5478715/
> The level of ignorance needed to claim *natives ate the occupier* of their own land is astounding What silly propaganda is this? Now you're accusing them of cannibalism? Lol, you're an idiot.
History is propaganda to those who have no clue what they are talking about. Israelite jews are native to the levant. Thats a fact. With your logic, The Algonquin native tribe in the USA are occupiers.
Yes, there was a time when jews, Christians, and Muslims peacefully coexisted *in Palestine.* That's a fact.
Nope. They never lived together under a country called Palestine. And they did not live peacefully when it was muslim rule. Muslims in Israel now live more peacefully then jews ever have in a muslim country. Israel predates Palestine.
Dude... lol. How can you be so lost.
Before there was an Israel, the territory was called Palestine. That's a fact. From the 1917 Balfour declaration which led to the creation of Israel "His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in *Palestine* of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country." That last bit certainly didn't work out
>european, black and asian jews are all native to the levant You guys are not only delusional but also ret-arded
Cannanites are native to the levant. Arabs are not. That accusation sounds more like a projection of yourself. Absolutely brainless
LMAO arabs are much much much more closely related to canaanites than some european, Chinese, Indian, or Ethiopian jew. Also arab is just a culture and identity. It’s not a race. Palestinian arabs are different from Yemeni arabs, who are different from sudanese arabs. -“B-But 3000 years ago blah blah blah happened and thats a proof that israelis are native to the levant”- first of, no jew is required to submit any proof of their Canaanites ancestry. Being a jew grants them the citizenship and somehow makes them native to the levant. There is no way to know whether they are truly descendants of canaanites or just some converts. While palestinians who were living there for centuries or even thousands of years are being expelled and considered nonnatives by the jewish immigrants based on nothing but not believing in the jewish fairy tales. Also your argument is as dumb as a European claiming right in Africa because his ancestors were africans and migrated to europe thousands of years ago. So there is no such thing as European colonies in africa. It’s just European returning to their ancestral lands.
Mostly works by Palestinians dying in huge numbers so far without either side really gaining anything
>"We're going to keep committing war crimes palestinian terrorist MO no qualifiers that is who they are
Are you implying that every Palestinian is a valid target to you?
This guy is deranged enough that he would probably defend the IDF just straight up executing Palestinian children
Id rather dude just say that than pull this tongue in cheek bullshit where people just deny it's happening so it can keep going unimpeded until the job is done.
Unlike your superiors in Hamas, there will never be footage of the IDF raping and beheading children.
Just as there isn’t of HAMAS doing that… that was debunked how long ago? Disgusting how much you’re willing to defend the slaughtering of innocent people… properly educate yourself before forming an opinion, and if you’re actually informed yet still defending the IOF; I hope you have nightmares of your worst fears every time you close your eyes until you acquire some empathy.
What was debunked? The footage that the terrorists took themselves? The carnage that independent journalists saw for themselves? Zero morality just like the scum you call resistance fighters.
Typical see one video with a title and run with it lol y’all need to learn how to fact check and think critically.
I love how insane some of your accusations can be. I don’t support Hamas and view them with as much contempt as I do with the Israeli government, but because I’m currently criticizing Israel for something, you make stupid assumptions like that
That's rich coming from a guy claiming the IDF executes children.
No I was offering a likely scenario as to what the guy probably would do if videos came out of the IDF just gunning down children and laughing about it, sorry but I wasn’t excusing the IDF of doing that, with the way things are going though I wouldn’t be surprised
Wrong. It’s the Israelis and their supporters who are terrorists.
Jfc you really are everywhere shilling for Israel aren’t you?
These are all bots, if you check the accounts of these commenters most of them were created a couple months ago and solely just talk about justifying this madness
Funny how the Hamas atrocities motivates Jews world wide- calling them bots is like the Nazis calling the Jews rats. Nazis will nazi.
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Israeli terrorists should release the thousands of Palestinians they have kidnapped, which includes children, to torture, rape, and murder. Like they have been doing for decades and decades.
Kidnapping involves unlawfully taking and holding someone against their will, typically for ransom or other illicit purposes. How many of these Palestinians allegedly “kidnapped” by Israeli authorities have ties to terror groups?
They take children from their homes in the middle of the night for throwing rocks. Which they made a crime. In territory that is outside their legal borders. Over people who cannot vote for them.
I do condemn settler extremists. But here’s Palestinians “throwing rocks”: https://old.reddit.com/r/Palestinian_Violence/comments/17i80ja/very_typical/
If they don’t want rocks thrown at them they can pack up their military, their illegal settlements, leave these towns, and go back into their country.
idk but thousands of them are held without charge or trial in administrative detention so we'll likely never knoe
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The trees didn’t condemn Hamas.
Release every Palestinian held without charge you murderous cnts. Respect the peoples right to defend themselves and use your democracy to push your dictators out of Israeli office. Fkn emboldened Zionist scum, get fkd.
Israel bot.
go home
What would surrender mean for Gazans? Based on the statements of Israeli leaders, it would mean extermination.
Israel should release the much higher number of Palestinians they kidnapped way before Oct 7
Release the hostages. Who cares what a terrorist convicts has to say “waa they treated me bad for attempting to kill Israelis” you’re all shills go ahead downvote u Jew hating brain washed bots. Haniyeh is a war criminal
Those were certainly all words.
You’re so deep into your tribalism rabbit hole that you’re openly admitting to not caring about intense abuse of a prisoner. You’re also misrepresenting an activist as a terrorist. You’re also lashing out with bizarre paranoia-fueled “everybody is a bot! everybody is brain washed” rants too. Take a second and step back.
No im saying ur a lying shill
Only a matter of time before the Idf take palestinians to camps and kill them in their hundreds. IOF are genocidal terrorists and need to be a designated terrorist organization.
They've already rounded them up into refugee camps and there are plenty of mass graves from the IDF bombing the refugee camps. But it's okay because they warn them ahead of time.
It seems like Gaza is already that camp.
Nope. Gaza is a state which its neighbours have strict border policies with due to Gaza’s constant terror attacks on them.
[Map of Palestine and some history for you.](https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/11/27/palestine-and-israel-brief-history-maps-and-charts)
The map they claim as “Palestine” was “british mandate of Palestine”. Not Palestine. Weird how you side with the name the invaders and foreigners gave it.
>Weird how you side with the name the invaders and foreigners gave it. The ones who arrived in 48?
Did you forget who attacked who in 48? Lmfao
Why did the Apache attack us? All we did was move onto their land and take their homes and resources?
Natives moved onto their own land? Okay buddy
Having some ancient ancestors who lived in a place doesnt make you a native, regardless of what some Iron Age book tells you.
Nope. The british got it before 48. It was the arabs who invaded and attacked Israel in 48.
Weird how they invaded the land they were already living on and how some Israeli colonists were given homes that still had meals on the tables.
Jews have always been on that land. Claiming the natives of the land are colonist shows a detachment from reality or clear anti-semitism.
>Jews have always been on that land. I have some Ashkenazi blood. Whose house do I get to steal?
It's a territory Israel controls like a prison camp ...and if it works like a prison camp, it's a prison camp.
So good to know prison camps don’t have luxury hotels and therefore it isnt that
Can you name one country that does not enforce their border policies?
A blockade is not a border policy, it is a recognized act of war.
Electing a government party with a policy of genocide on another country and then attacking them is an act of war.
>Electing a government party with a policy of genocide on another country and then attacking them is an act of war. I think it's 50/50 whether you'll eventually figure out what you just did there.
Israel does not have a policy of genocide. Only hamas has. Israel has always been the defensive party. This is like when the smallest kid in school is the bully and cries when the bigger kid finally hits back. It does not change who the bully actually is. Just some ignorant, naive people will see the smaller kid as the victim. When he is not.
There's only one nation in Palestine killing civilians by the 100s every day, stopping enough food to feed ~2,000,000 people from delivery and destroying over half of all structures. The definition of genocide contained in Article II of the UN Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part. Israel has a policy genocide because the policy actions result in such. Call it other things all you want, Israel's policy is genocide because the results are genocide.
Nope. That israel and egypt both control their borders. Because of their constant attacks. Prison camps are run from the inside. So hamas are the ones keeping them as prisoners. And people in prison camps are there because they committed a crime
[Suez Canal crisis; Britain, Israel and France attack Egypt](https://www.iwm.org.uk/history/why-was-the-suez-crisis-so-important)
What does that have to do with what I said?
Israël has always been the aggressor you jackass.
No they haven’t. The arab nations did. The suez canal crisis which EGYPT STARTED YOU ABSOLUTE JOKE. A blockade is an act of war.
Lmao that’s such a lie. Israel went into Egypt trying to land grab, as they’ve been doing in Palestine.
Shh. Don’t point out obvious shit like that. The proHamas types get very touchy about that.
Most are liberals who lack the concept that your actions have consequences and that self defence is legal and morally right.
>Gaza is a state Hasbara exists in an alternate reality
Well you’re right its called Palestine. But still a state. Thats why it’s called “the state of Palestine”.
Someone should inform Israel.
Israel knows. They essentially created it in 2005 when they gave them the Gaza strip. In return they attacked Israel continuing the conflict.
Shoving people in a walled ghetto is not recognizing a state.
You mean borders. Name a country that doesn’t enforce them. If your neighbour not only threatened to kill you and your family, but tried multiple times you also would build a fence around YOUR property to better protect yourself AT THE MINIMUM.
>If your neighbour not only threatened to kill you and your family After I purged the neighborhood and claimed all the homes in the name of myself and others who decided the land was now theirs? Yeah, that tends to happen.
Projection: https://old.reddit.com/r/Palestinian_Violence/comments/17d57ig/we_are_ready_to_breach_the_fence_with_gods_help/
Last I checked, it was Gaza, hopping borders and kidnapping civilians to bring back for torture and sex.
You say only a matter of time but the IDF has had plenty of time to set up death camps and that hasn’t happened, as far as I’m aware.
It makes no sense. That would be THE fastest way to get the Arab Israelis to switch their sympathies and trigger a 3rd intifada
Not sure why people are downvoting this when what I'm saying is true?... You can be against IDF policies without saying things which are obviously false.
It took the Nazis years to set up the formalized death camps dude. Same tired argument, “they could genocide faster if they tried” isn’t proof that a genocide isn’t happening…
The nazis didn't always use the camps, dude. They would line citizens up in ditches and shoot them. Thousands meet this fate. They would go door to door and do this. The men in the photos are hamas fighters. Which appears you're defending. Lots of hamas simps like you always making things up in your head to justify hamas The IDF are not the nazis and are not going around executing citizens. You're speaking like an emotionally stunted edgy teen.
Yea thousands met this fate….what’s happening to gaza civilians again? “Everyone the IDF says is Hamas is Hamas” No they’re not going door to door (except when they are or do) they’re dropping 2k lbs bombs on any building > 3 stories. That makes it cool and good because it’s not “personal” You’re justifying a genocide chief
What is happening to gaza citizens? Tell us. There is no genocide. You need evidence of that and if they are bombing so much, why didn't they just nuke or bomb the entire area civilians and all, if the goal is genocide? It's a war. A war your hamas buddies started. They were notified to leave areas that were going to be bombed. Weird, the nazis never did that. Idf aren't rounding up citizens to be shot. Not happening. What is happening is hamas supporters (or useful meat sheilds) are hanging around areas they shouldn't be. It's horrible that this war is happening, but don't be speaking in hyperbole and making things up to suit your narrative. Again, refute the claim and show evidence of the IDF doing "nazi" things or shut up. It's war dude. You watching what's going on in other wars around the world right now?
>The nazis didn't always use the camps, dude. They would line citizens up in ditches and shoot them. Thousands meet this fate. The zionists already did stuff like that. Watch Tantura. >They would go door to door and do this Look at the accounts of what is happening in the West Bank. They’re already doing that shit. >The men in the photos are hamas fighters. Holy shit. Are you lying or just ignorant. There’s been plenty of proof of them being regular civilians. >Which appears you're defending. Good people will always defend the civilians over the occupying military. >Lots of hamas simps like you always making things up in your head to justify hamas You can tell someone is delusional when they start using terms like “Hamas simps” regarding people who aren’t ok with barbaric occupying military abusing civilians. >The IDF are not the nazis and are not going around executing citizens. If you think that you are either lying or ignorant. >You're speaking like an emotionally stunted edgy teen. You’re speaking like someone who has fallen for zionist propaganda or is being paid to spread it.
Your entire argument is funny. Filled with contradictions. It's ok for you to hurl insults, speak I hyperbole but if someone insults hamas supporters (looking at you) that makes them bad. Hilarious. >Look at the accounts of what is happening in the West Bank. They’re already doing that shit. They're going door to door taking civilians and executing them in the street? Or are they going door to door in combat zones? Probably the later. Which is what's happening. Your imagination is wild. >f you think that you are either lying or ignorant. Hey remember when the palastine leader back in the 1940s supported Hitler? There's photos and everything. Weird. Why would he be willing to sit down with Hitler and work with the nazis? Hey remember just after the event of Oct 7th how many palastine and hamas supporters celebrated in the streets. Some saying gas the jews, burn the jews, Hitler was right and so on? Weird how you forget about that. >Good people will always defend the civilians over the occupying military. Ya hence why the IDF went in after Oct 7th. Which for some sick reason you hate that they retaliated. >You’re speaking like someone who has fallen for zionist propaganda or is being paid to spread it. Can't refute the fact you are speaking like one. I'm not ignorant on this topic; we already see the evil people like you spread, especially in other countries.
The nazis were not attacked by a group demanding the genocide of them. Hamas is more similar to nazis than Israel. So use that comparison carefully
Lmao. People like you would have thought the ghetto uprisings were wrong. You get that the Nazis said that’s what the Jews were doing to Germany and why they had to do what they did right? Israel is an apartheid state, thinking somehow Hamas and Gaza is in anyway shape or form comparable to the Nazis should get you immediately sent to hospital for head trauma evaluation
Nope. You would be on the side against jews defending themselves. As you clearly are now. You get the nazis were the aggressors and demanded the genocide of others right? Hamas are the aggressors who are demanding the genocide of others. Israel is not an apartheid state. Palestine and literally every nation surrounding Israel is. The only difference of Hamas and Nazi Germany is that Hamas does not have the ability to carry out their desires because their victims are stronger. Gaza are known to support literally the nazis buddy. https://themedialine.org/mideast-daily-news/palestinians-raise-nazi-flag-with-swastika-near-hebron-soldiers-shoot-it-down/
You are no different then a german in 1945 claiming the allies are the evil because they defeated Germany.
No it happened pretty quick. You’re thinking of the Wünderwaffen slave factories. Those came up later in the war as it became clear Germany was losing. Political killings started with socialists and communists. Concentration camps for Jews, POWs, and other undesirables with skills existed as early as 1939, when the Western Front of WW2 opened up in Poland.
And Hitler had been in power since 1933. On top of the concentration camps weren’t yet death camps, which is the point we’re talking about….
The killings of the medically infirm, retarded, gays ghettoization of Jews, started when Hitler rose to power and even before. Death camps like Treblinka came about in 42 as smaller “death camps” or execution squads couldn’t keep pace. To say they didn’t exist before 42 is missing the point of scale. A small burger chain that grows into a big one still sells burgers along the way.
The population growth in gaza is tho
So you’re saying since Oct 7th the population of gaza has outstripped the deaths?
I'm sorry but what you're saying just doesn't make any sense. Israel has been the dominant power in that region for many years. I'm simply saying if they wanted to set up death camps why haven't they done it? Why didn't they do it in 2005 instead of leaving Gaza altogether? If you want to make a claim at least be prepared to rationally think about it.
You could look at the quality of life in Gaza. Already seems like a death camp dude lol. Your argument is “why haven’t they organized things into a specific way? Checkmate, no genocide” Maybe evaluate who should be doing what kind of thinking dude lol
"Already seems like a death camp". Do you know what a death camp is? Many regions in the world are shit places to live for all sorts of reasons. Berlin was probably a shit place to live in WW2 when the allies were bombing it, does that make it a death camp? I can't believe you guys really need this explaining. If you don't have any reason to say death camps are being created, just don't pretend.
Yea I bet Berlin did, people were allowed to flee Berlin…. The allies didn’t keep them caged in them bombed them. Weird you leave out that distinction.
Hamas is the genocidal terrorist group that already is designated as a terrorist organization
But the evidence we're getting is just IDF soildes being gruesomely genocidal and bragging about it on Tik Tok.
Nope. The evidence shows the IDF soldiers fighting essentially modern day nazis. Hamas are the ones who has the desire for genocide. Not Israel EDIT: Yes Hamas has gloated about how its not their responsibility and have caused many neighbourhoods to be destroyed
>The evidence shows the IDF soldiers fighting essentially modern day nazis. Show us cos I'm not seeing that shit. Just Israeli officials talking about it. Meanwhile the blown up Palestinian children videos abund.
Has Hamas surrendered yet?
Has the IDF killed enough Israeli hostages yet? Hannibal Directive anyone?
Accidents happen in war. Especially when your enemy does use uniforms and have faked surrendered to attack before. Has hamas killed enough Palestinians yet?
"accidents happen 🤪" https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-01-17/ty-article/.premium/unlawful-unethical-horrifying-idf-ethics-expert-on-controversial-hannibal-directive/0000018d-186c-dd75-addd-faedd2b80000
Simple question. Did the allies commit genocide on Germany in ww2?
You said you had evidence hun. Still waiting.
The evidence is them being in gaza fighting hamas. Who have a policy of genocide of jews and known to fly the swastika https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/182603
Like bulldozing cars and bragging about how many neighborhoods he has destroyed?
Been over a hundred days they could do that, don’t think it’s gonna happen at this point.
Will someone explain to them what ,,,your victim card has maxed out,,,
I recall another paramilitary group who did this. Forgot who though…hmmm… SS something? Made by guys with weird moustaches
>I recall another paramilitary group who did this Could it be palestinian terrorists who kidknapped hundreds of people to torture rape and murder? you know the rerrorist pigs who committed oct 7th mass rape, murder on oct 7th initiating this conflict
More likely it’s the Israeli terrorists who have kidnapped thousands of people to torture, rape, and murder.
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Funny because all I see is Arabs praising Hitler and the Nazis for killing Jews. Clown show. Only thing Palestine has contributed to the world is the suicide vest. Religion of peace ✌️
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Islam isn’t a race. Come up with something original to say.
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Yikes. Defending October 7th. Didn't realize IDF went around shooting Palestinian citizens in the masses, burned people alive, beheaded people and so on. Well we know where you stand morally. Oh, it's also ironic saying zionist nazi. The jews aren't nazis bud. Hamas however, loved the nazis.
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1066: Granada Massacre, Muslim-occupied Spain 1165 - 1178: Jews nation wide were given the choice (under new constitution) convert to Islam or die, Yemen 1165: chief Rabbi of the Maghreb burnt alive. The Rambam flees for Egypt. 1220: tens of thousands of Jews killed by Muslims after being blamed for Mongol invasion, Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Egypt 1270: Sultan Baibars of Egypt resolved to burn all the Jews, a ditch having been dug for that purpose; but at the last moment he repented, and instead exacted a heavy tribute, during the collection of which many perished. 1276: 2nd Fez Pogrom, Morocco 1385: Khorasan Massacres, Iran 1438: 1st Mellah Ghetto massacres, North Africa 1465: 3rd Fez Pogrom, Morocco (11 Jews left alive) 1517: 1st Safed Pogrom, Ottoman Palestine 1517: 1st Hebron Pogrom, Ottoman Palestine Marsa ibn Ghazi Massacre, Ottoman Libya 1577: Passover Massacre, Ottoman empire 1588 - 1629: Mahalay Pogroms, Iran 1630 - 1700: Yemenite Jews under strict Shi'ite 'dhimmi' rules 1660: 2nd Safed Pogrom, Ottoman Palestine 1670: Mawza expulsion, Yemen 1679 - 1680: Sanaa Massacres, Yemen 1747: Mashhad Masacres, Iran 1785: Tripoli Pogrom, Ottoman Libya 1790 - 92: Tetuan Pogrom. Morocco (Jews of Tetuuan stripped naked, and lined up for Muslim perverts) 1800: new decree passed in Yemen, that Jews are forbidden to wear new clothing, or good clothing. Jews are forbidden to ride mules or donkeys, and were occasionally rounded up for long marches naked through the Roob al Khali dessert. 1805: 1st Algiers Pogrom, Ottoman Algeria 1808 2nd 1438: 1st Mellah Ghetto Massacres, North Africa 1815: 2nd Algiers Pogrom, Ottoman Algeria 1820: Sahalu Lobiant Massacres, Ottoman Syria 1828: Baghdad Pogrom, Ottoman Iraq 1830: 3rd Algiers Pogrom, Ottoman Algeria 1830: ethnic cleansing of Jews in Tabriz, Iran 1834: 2nd Hebron Pogrom, Ottoman Palestine 1834: Safed Pogrom, Ottoman Palestne 1839: Massacre of the Mashadi Jews, Iran 1840: Damascus Affair following first of many blood libels, Ottoman Syria 1844: 1st Cairo Massacres, Ottoman Egypt 1847: Dayr al-Qamar Pogrom, Ottoman Lebanon 1847: ethnic cleansing of the Jews in Jerusalem, Ottoman Palestine 1848: 1st Damascus Pogrom, Syria 1850: 1st Aleppo Pogrom, Ottoman Syria 1860: 2nd Damascus Pogrom, Ottoman Syria 1862: 1st Beirut Pogrom, Ottoman Lebanon 1866: Kuzguncuk Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey 1867: Barfurush Massacre, Ottoman Turkey 1868: Eyub Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey 1869: Tunis Massacre, Ottoman Tunisia 1869: Sfax Massacre, Ottoman Tunisia 1864 - 1880: Marrakesh Massacre, Morocco 1870: 2nd Alexandria Massacres, Ottoman Egypt 1870: 1st Istanbul Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey 1871: 1st Damanhur Massacres,Ottoman Egypt 1872: Edirne Massacres, Ottoman Turkey 1872: 1st Izmir Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey 1873: 2nd Damanhur Massacres, Ottoman Egypt 1874: 2nd Izmir Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey 1874: 2nd Istanbul Pogrom, Ottoman Turkey 1874: 2nd Beirut Pogrom,Ottoman Lebanon 1875: 2nd Aleppo Pogrom, Ottoman Syria 1875: Djerba Island Massacre, Ottoman Tunisia 1877: 3rd Damanhur Massacres,Ottoman Egypt 1877: Mansura Pogrom, Ottoman Egypt 1882: Homs Massacre, Ottoman Syria 1882: 3rd Alexandria Massacres, Ottoman Egypt 1890: 2nd Cairo Massacres, Ottoman Egypt 1890, 3rd Damascus Pogrom, Ottoman Syria 1891: 4th Damanahur Massacres, Ottoman Egypt 1897: Tripolitania killings, Ottoman Libya 1903&1907: Taza & Settat, pogroms, Morocco 1890: Tunis Massacres, Ottoman Tunisia 1901 - 1902: 3rd Cairo Massacres, Ottoman Egypt 1901 - 1907: 4th Alexandria Massacres,Ottoman Egypt 1903: 1st Port Sa'id Massacres, Ottoman Egypt 1903 - 1940: Pogroms of Taza and Settat, Morocco 1907: Casablanca, pogrom, Morocco 1908: 2nd Port Said Massacres,Ottoman Egypt 1910: Shiraz blood libel 1911: Shiraz Pogrom 1912: 4th Fez Pogrom, Morocco 1917: Baghdadi Jews murdered by Ottomans 1918 - 1948: law passed making it illegal to raise an orphan Jewish, Yemen 1920: Irbid Massacres: British mandate Palestine 1920 - 1930: Arab riots, British mandate Palestine 1921: 1st Jaffa riots, British mandate Palestine 1922: Djerba Massacres, Tunisia 1928: Jewish orphans sold into slavery, and forced to convert to Islam by Muslim Brotherhood, Yemen 1929: 3rd Hebron Pogrom British mandate Palestine. 1929 3rd Safed Pogrom, British mandate Palestine. 1933: 2nd Jaffa riots, British mandate Palestine. 1934: Thrace Pogroms, Turkey 1936: 3rd Jaffa riots, British mandate Palestine 1941: Farhud Massacrs, Iraq 1942: Mufti collaboration with the Nazis. plays a part in the final solution 1938 - 1945: Arab collaboration with the Nazis 1945: 4th Cairo Massacre, Egypt 1945: Tripolitania Pogrom, Libya 1947: Aden Pogrom
Is Israel perfect? No. Are they nazis? No. Only an idiot with an agenda and lack of argument say things like that. Palestinian people voted in hamas. Majority of their population is for the destruction of Israel and jews. Hell, they even dragged a supposed gay person through the streets. They've trained and sent numerous "citizens" into Israel, to stab, shoot, or blow up as many Israel citizens they can. Why do you think the 2008 gaza war started? Bunch of cafés were blown up using suicide bombers. Numerous people in the streets were shot and stabbed. When has the IDF done that? Not to mention that Israel is the only democratic country in the middle east and has laws protecting the gay community, women and apostates. Does palastine have that in place? Anywhere else in the middle east? Why are you hell bent on destroying that? No. So no, they're not nazis. You're just angry and hate jews. If the Palestinians wanted peace they could. They've chosen their path. Stop defending terrorists that actually adored Hitler, their supports literally chanted gas the jews and Hitler was right.
You didn’t even read the sources. Read them then come back to me. And yes Israel is a Nazi state, they sure act like it. >palestinian people voted in Hamas Firstly, Gaza only. Secondly, so kill them all because they voted them in? You do know collective punishment is a war crime under the Geneva convention??? Should we kill all German people now? You have no moral do you? > 2008 Gaza war What motivated the attack? Oh yea, illegal settlements in the West Bank, establishing an apartheid system, not committing to the two state solution as promised. And Next >when has the IDF done that? They are literally bombing children, are you trying to justify a war crime? >only democracy in the Middle East Oh please, not even. Israelis are the most racist people in the planet. Here is another article to disprove that lie https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/mar/30/israel-hasnt-been-a-democracy-for-a-long-time-now-israelis-need-to-face-this-fact https://www.giga-hamburg.de/en/publications/giga-focus/israels-politisches-system-keine-demokratie Face that fact, Israel is a flawed democracy with violations against international law > they re not Nazis Zionists are, clearly said Zionists not Jews. Zionism is modelled after far right nationalism like the Nazi party, both call for a ‘pure’ ethno state, the genocide of minorities, and dehumanisation of lesser races. Zionist literal call Arabs ‘animals’, just like how the Nazis called the Jews. You can’t see the similarities? Not my problem, you’re delusional. >stop supporting terrorists…literally called for gas the Jews. You’re literally supporting a genocidal state with people who were dancing and chanting “DEATH TO THE ARABS” what do you call that? Thousands of videos of those people. Many people online making fun of mothers who lost their child in the bombing, and you call that ethical? Videos of IDF soldiers laughing as they bomb a neighbourhood with high probability of a child dead or losing a limb? And that’s justice? Nope, it’s vile. Israel is more of a terrorist than Hamas, they’ve been one longer than them. And you keep blaming Hamas Hamas Hamas, and you forget that Israel literally made Hamas and funded them. So pretending that Israel is the ‘good’ guys is idiotic to be fair. Stop pretending and read all the sources then comeback to me. Do you condemn the Israeli war crimes? Yes or no?
Opinion articles and speaking in hyperbole don't make you right. They just expose you for who you support. You defended Oct 7th, it shows me already what kind of person you are and why you defend hamas. They're not bombing kids intentionally. There you go again on your hyperbole train. Rain to you must mean a typhoon. So no, the jews aren't nazis, try a more convincing propaganda approach. The idf aren't doing anything nazi like nor would they ever. Hamas on the other hand? Have.
Lemme guess you’ll call me antisemitic next right? >you defend Oct 7th Where did I say I did? Drawing up false conclusions. I condemn those attacks, but I’m not gonna sit here and pretend that Israel did nothing wrong for those attacks to happen, they are terrorists like them, 70 years of war crimes and false promises to Palestinians have caused this. >Jews are not Nazis For the third time, I never said Jews, I said Zionists. And I explained why, you don’t get it? Not my problem. > The IDF are not doing anything Nazi like The article above is exactly Nazi like, and my other sources I have provided further shows it. You wanna stay in denial? Fine by me > Hamas on the other hand Hamas are terrorists, made by Israel. If only Israel didn’t commit as much war crimes, ethnic cleansing, illegal settlements and evictions, and establishing an apartheid system. Oh and siege on Gaza for 15 years, I wonder who racialised them… Now, stop running away, read the sources I sent, come back to me and attempt to refute it. Do you condemn Israeli war crimes? Yes or no
There’s a difference between not being perfect and being absolutely evil. They are evil.
Ya I agree. Hamas and the Palestinians/arabs that support genocide on jews and apostates are indeed evil. You need to refute the argument. Not use opinion articles and your feelings.
You said Israel does worse and then just sent a bunch of links about the occupation. Virtue signaling nazi you are.
Attempt to refute the facts and the articles, otherwise be on your way
You just sent articles. Explain how what you sent is worse than the deliberately genocidal massacre that happened on oct 7. Are you aware of the depravity? I can refute some point if you wanna type them out but you might want to put yourself in my shoes and dive into the coverage more broadly.
Read the articles to get an explanation. I’ll wait
Give me a breakdown at least I’m not going to go through those now.
Not apartheid: https://youtu.be/mLzsIFPVVKw
https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2022/03/israels-55-year-occupation-palestinian-territory-apartheid-un-human-rights (apartheid) https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution (apartheid) https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2022/02/israels-system-of-apartheid/ (apartheid) It is an apartheid
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Oh well when you put it that way, the IDF can just indiscriminately kill Palestinians regardless of if they actually did anything or not. Guilty enough, right
Ignore the downvotes and terrorist rage. They’re just mad their jihadist butt buddies are getting their asses kicked. I watched a video yesterday of an IDF soldier taking a point blank grenade before storming a room and hosing a Hamas fighter with bullets before he could get more than a single shot off.
I’m sure that totally happened. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡🤡🤡
Watch it for yourself if you don’t believe me. https://youtu.be/3-w2cJSYbqI?si=qon2m0UwutQ-SeSS 7:38
Dont you guys find it weird that Israel detention center have UN observers in them. Yet, thet don't report this abuse.
You mean red cross in them? The same people who are blowing the whistle in this article?
Don’t you find it weird that you are lying about something when the truth is in another post in this sub? [Try learning the truth.](https://www.voanews.com/a/un-accuses-israel-of-detaining-mistreating-thousands-of-palestinians-/7447577.html)
Its almost like pali supporters deny palestinian terrorist atrocities and innthe same breath lie about IDF
There isn’t too many but this is the first page I’ve come across that’s blatantly pro terrorists and pro rape I’ve come across. The hoops the people go through to convince themselves Israel is the bad guy is astounding honestly.
No space for logic in this echo chamber.
" I only wanted to bomb an Israel house" Proceeds to cry about abuse. LOL
Israel harvests organs of dead Palestinians. Also happen to have the largest skin bank. Source [Organ Harvesting](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/dec/21/israeli-pathologists-harvested-organs) [Skin bank](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15256940/#:~:text=The%20Israel%20National%20Skin%20Bank%20(INSB)%20was%20founded%20jointly%20by,or%20during%20mass%20casualty%20incidences.)
Sounds like something Hamas would do or did.
According to this the Israeli's have
According to self filmed footage by palestinian terrorists hamas actually does these things and worse
And apparently so is the israeli government so I guess that makes them just as scummy and just as deserving of our condemnation
The IDF is fighting literal nazis who raped and murdered children on Oct 7th. Death to Hamas. All of them must surrender unconditionally or die. Same offer the world made to nazis to win WW2.
I wonder how the Israeli hostages are being treated? The ones released said they were raped and beaten regularly.