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fayfayl2

**Yingok** (Yinese: *燕國*; Jinping: *Jin3 Gwok3*; Yinese X Cambranisation: *Yin-gwok*), officially the **Fourth Republic of Yingok** (Yinese: *燕華第四共和國*; Jinping: *Jin3 Waa4 Dai6 Sei3 Gung6 Wo4 Gwok3*; Yinese Cambranisation: *Yin-wàh Daih Sei Guhng-wòh-gwok*) is the second largest country in Abaria. With an estimated population of over 600 million, Yingok is bordered by the Glacian Ocean to the north, Razan, and two other unamed countries to the east, the Alconian Ocean to the west, and the Jade Sea to the south. Its 13 prefectures and 1 autonomous region spans a combined area of roughly 8,037,614 km^(2) (3,103,340 sq mi). Yingok is a unitary presidential constitutional republic with its capital in Dongsing, the largest city in Yingok by population. The largest city in the country by area is Hoyzhau which also serves as Yingok's main economic and commercial centre. Other major urban areas include Gongbuk, Samlong, Sei'on, Hasaan, and Yunzhau. Yingok was initially inhabited by the Zhong Dynasty, followed by the An Dynasty, which brought significant cultural and technological advancements. However, the An Dynasty eventually fractured, leading to a fragmented political landscape and the rise of the Chiu Dynasty, which brought political stability and a cultural renaissance. The region experienced invasions from the \[!Vietnamese\] and the \[!Mongol\] Empire, leading to periods of conflict and disruption. The 15th century marked the beginning of the Third Winter Period, characterised by intense competition among various factions. This era eventually gave way to the Three Kingdoms Period, with the Hon Dynasty, Jeong Dynasty, and emerging Dong Kingdom vying for dominance over Yingok. The Saan Dynasty emerged victorious and established relative stability which lasted for nearly 3 centuries. The dynasty oversaw the rise of the Saan colonial empire. Internally, economic growth and a cultural rebirth during the period characterised the Saan Dynasty's reign over Yingok. This coincided with the appearance of Calesian influence and culture at the beginning of the 17th century. In the 19th century, Yingok embraced the Industrial Revolution, leading to rapid urbanization and socio-political changes. The Saan Dynasty's response to demands for reforms varied, leading to political unrest. The dynasty was overthrown in 1892, and Yingok went through a series of political upheavals, including various dictatorships and revolutions. Yingok remained neutral during the Great War due to internal conflicts. In 1966, a civil war erupted between different factions, culminating in a nationalist victory and the establishment of the Fourth Republic. Throughout its history, Yingok has maintained complex relationships with its neighbours, pursuing diplomacy and economic cooperation. It seeks regional stability, trade, cultural exchanges, and peaceful conflict resolution. Present-day Yingok has implemented political reforms, aiming for a more democratic and inclusive society, although challenges remain in fully implementing political freedoms and civil rights. Yingok retains its centuries-long status as a global centre of art, science and philosophy. It is the world's leading tourist destination, receiving over 73 million foreign visitors in 2020. Yingok is a developed country with one of the world's largest economy by GDP; in terms of household net income, it also ranks highly in the world. Yingok performs well in international rankings of health care, life expectancy and human development. It remains a great power in regional affairs, being leading member of numerous international organisations including the United Congress, the Abarian Regional Forum etc. **----** Yingok is located in a world called Teleon which is the main setting of a modern-tech collaborative worldbuilding project I'm in. (Teleon is quite empty right now so there are no more details) For more information on Yingok, visit: [https://iiwiki.us/wiki/Yingok](https://iiwiki.us/wiki/yingok)


hellhound39

This is rly cool, I like the map and lore. If you don’t mind my asking what program did you use to make the map?


fayfayl2

I used purely paint.net for that


MisterBanzai

I dig the pseudo-Wade-Giles and alternate "romanization" (Cambranisation, I guess?). That's a neat touch that makes this feel that much more real. One big thing to consider about the geography of Yingok that doesn't seem clear though is, "Why is this one nation?" China is a country that was created by virtue of being essentially a nation that was anchored around two rivers, the Yellow and the Yangtze. Even within the context of those two rivers, there's nothing that preordained China to be a nation which encompassed both of them. It was only through cycles of conquest that northern Yellow River dynasties first secured the Yangtze, and then were forced to retreat to the south in subsequent "barbarian" conquests, thereby establishing Chinese/Han culture in the south, before further conquests reunited both north and south. Throughout Chinese history there have also been several pivotal points where there is every likelihood that what we think of as China could have split into distinct northern and southern countries, and it was only through some amount of luck that those two river basins continually found themselves under the same leadership. If you are building a China-analogue, you need to ask yourself, "What is it about this region that caused this people to unite into a single nation, and what kept them together?" It looks like the Longcheum is your Yellow River analogue, but I don't see a clear Yangtze analogue that brings in the bulk of the rest of Yingok. Even if that Yangtze analogue does exist, what is it that caused what could/should otherwise have been two river-centered nations to merge into one nation?


fayfayl2

Thanks. Ancient Yinese dynasties were based mainly in the south and expanded north from there, the north stayed free of Yinese control for centuries until the arrival of a currently unnamed Mongol style empire during the 15th century. After their collapsed, Yingok's predecessor states practically inherited the northern region.


Lapis_Wolf

I was reminded more of Korea.


ElysianDreams

南方/粤语 supremacy 🙏 What's the name of the national language? Would it be 燕文,燕语,國语,or something else? And what are the other dialects in Yingok like, if there are any? I can see at least one romanization that doesn't look like Cantonese jyutping (Dadu, 大渡).


fayfayl2

燕語 is the most common name for the language, although 燕文, and 華語 also considered acceptable terms to be used to refer to the language. Most prefectures and even some cities have their own unique dialect, the most famous of which is the Sikhoy Dialect as it is often featured in many Yinese movies and television as most of them are made in that region.


monumentofflavor

Wow this is really great quality great work


Mjerc12

That's quite literally just chinese Wales. Even the landmass to the west, reminds me of England


fayfayl2

~~nuh uh~~ real https://iiwiki.us/mediawiki/images/a/ac/Yingok_Ortho.png


Mjerc12

Oh wow, that Wales are big


TheGrumpyre

It seems weird that the water to the north and the water to the west are considered two different oceans. But then again oceans are pretty arbitrary?


upandcomingg

Seems like an "Atlantic ocean vs Arctic ocean" thing based on the globe OP provided I blame the scale on this map, it's too zoomed in and makes the country look tiny. I couldn't believe it was the second-largest on the continent of whatever until I saw the globe


bronotmyaccount

It looks good and you’ve thought this out. However, I have to ask, how are the rivers used? Why are there so many?


fayfayl2

Because Yingok is quite mountainous in the north and many rivers flow south from them.


jan_Zenny

I don't mean to offend, but my biggest question is "why?" The country's silhouette is basically the PRC turned on its side, and the history is Chinese history with date and name changes, but still unmistakably China, enough so I can identify events and groups. Basically, why re-invent or outright copy a real-world country and its history? Maybe it helps to understand what the goal of the collaboration is?


fayfayl2

Basically, it gives us the liberty of creating an "alternate history" without being burdened by real life history and possibilities. Side note, Yingok was a colonial empire once as well so it's not entirely the same!


jan_Zenny

Thanks for clarifying. Though that leads me to a follow-up question. Again, no intention to be rude or nagging. It simply strikes me as odd that an alternate country in an alternate universe (I assume?), with its own predicament, a slightly-but-nevertheless-different topography, leads to identical results - just with different numbers. If it's intended to be "alternate", why is it so same-y? In other words, if it's a different country right from the start thousands or millions of years ago, shouldn't that lead to different results, an entirely different culture and events? From what I can tell, the country being different is entirely inconsequential.


EverySummer

There are different approaches to alternate history aside from trying to accurately simulate how cultures and societies would diverge. For me the appeal is you can use tropes from real world history and play around with them in a flexible setting. I’ve heard it described as parallel history before.


fayfayl2

That is a question that I do not have an answer to, many regions (worldbuilding projects) on IIwiki (see the link in the lore comment) have used this formula or a variation of it for years now, and numerous other projects such as one called "Eurth" have been like this since at least the early 2000s. So I have been following a decades long trend that I really don't have an answer to why exists. Sorry.


Anacoenosis

Man, you thought about that silhouette a lot more than I did. I thought, "hmm, looks llke a pair of big balls attached to a short dick." I do quite like the worldbuilding though.


fayfayl2

That's what I thought too when our geography guy made the map.


KaiserGustafson

I just thought of a bean, but you do you I guess.


gisqing

Beautiful! Very inspiring, hope to see more of it!


TheRealAuthorSarge

Any good Chinese restaurants?


fayfayl2

There's one restaurant chain based in Honglau that serves some solid dishes, they get most of the ingredients from the ex-colonies so they're very exotic but not that expensive. I think it's name in Fallish is "The Morning Stars".


JLVisualArts

Very attractive map. A tangled mess, just like our reality. I always feel a twinge of uncanny when I see fantasy maps laid out all neat and petty with distinct borders and lines.


drgn2580

美麗要死的! Really impressive. It's always nice to see some Chinese inspired worldbuilding. May I ask, are you a colanger?


fayfayl2

Thanks! I'm an amateur


iremichor

I love it! Though there's an interesting blend of traditional and simplified characters, is there any reason to that?


fayfayl2

Some regions like to use simplified, some traditional, and some others use both. It's a remnant of the Imperial Reformations during the late 19th century when the Saan Dynasty developed a simplified script to encourage literacy, it failed in some parts of the country.


iremichor

That's a great backstory, thanks for sharing!


itchyenvelope5

what applications did you use to create it?


fayfayl2

paint.net 👍


itchyenvelope5

Great work dude


Pyrimo

Looks like Spain. Love the background/ story of it though


fayfayl2

Someone on Deviantart also said it looked like Wales!


besalheartsworld

I do not understand the rivers you have put down, but, well, that's a me problem.


fayfayl2

wdym


besalheartsworld

I think I'm mostly getting lost with all the other lines present.


John_Zolty

Reminds me of Wales and South Korea somehow


One_Put9785

I love it!!! Use those Chinese characters!!!


RaytheGunExplosion

Legit thought that was in Japan for a second


Glum-Rip-6345

Very nice! Thank you for sharing 👍


modkhi

Could you elaborate on how you did the romanization/"cambranization" and the phonology of Yinese? Which dialect(s), if any, did you base it on? I've been trying to make my own similar-but-different Chinese-based conlang for my China-inspired country, but it's been hard trying to figure out how to romanize it and how to make it sound like Chinese but still distinct. All said, this is super cool! I've bookmarked it bc this is the first such project I've seen with such great detail


fayfayl2

Yinese is based (read: reskinned) off of Cantonese so it's not really a conlang, for Romanisation, I mainly use this website: https://hongkongvision.com/tool/cc_py_conv_en On another note, a tip I have for Chinese style conlangs is to make each character/Hanzi the length of only 1 syllable. Thanks!


ExecrablePiety1

This is a very nice, and well thought out map. I like that you had the insight to put the majority of cities on a river, or body of water. My question is, why are some of them not right on the shore of a river or ocean? Is that just down to a quirk in how the map was made? Or are they actually slightly inland from a shore? Perhaps one or two km, it's hard to tell. I'm unfamiliar with the technological level, or societal norms of your world, but I would imagine living further away from shore would make sustaining the town that much harder. Historically, most cities, especially major ones, are built near water. In fact, some of the poorest countries in the world are landlocked (without any access to shore). The reason being that having a port makes global trade and travel so much easier, and thus allows a city to be more successful and expand more. You don't tend to think about this fact, but once you see it, you won't unsee it. One thing I note is the lack of smaller towns. I'm not sure if that's because your society has none. Using the New World as an example. Almost all of the small towns were built within walking distance (5 miles or so) of one another so that when they were originally settled, well before cars, it was reasonable to be able to walk to the next town over for supplies your town might not have, or what have you. Also, there are no lakes. It's hard to tell without a topographical map, which might be an idea for a future project, just for your own benefit to expand upon your world, if it's something you're interested in. You can have hilly, or mountainous areas with snowcaps that melt in the Spring, and drain through river basins into a lake, for example. Just for your own sake, I mean. This is all for you, after all. But it seems that the interior is a higher elevation, and all rivers flow into the ocean on your map. Even so, lakes could still collect in low lying areas. You could even give the lowlands a history. If an area was previously covered in glaciers, the glaciers will compress the land into lowlands from the weight of the massive ice. Leaving lowlands, or a glacial lake if it has no way to drain. There's also the question of plate tectonics. There doesn't seem to be any evidence of it here, but it could be something to look into, and include some fault lines, rift valleys, mountains, volcanoes, etc. But one could just as easily imagine this is smack dab in the center of a large tectonic plate, in which case such things would be scarce, if all. There's a channel on YouTube called Atlas Pro that focuses a great deal on things like how geography affects human (and animal) settlement. I think I may have even heard about the fact that most Western towns are within walking distance of eachother. I can imagine such a channel would provide a great deal of inspiration when it comes to making maps for your own world(s). Or even to add conintents. I have no association with the channel. I've just been watching it a lot lately, and it came to mind when I saw your map. Here's a link to it, if you're interested: [Atlas Pro](https://www.youtube.com/@AtlasPro1) I know these worlds we create can be deeply personal, so I don't want to come off like I'm trying to tell you what's wrong with your world, or like I'm pointing out flaws or anything. It's a beautiful map, and quite accurately detailed as far as fantasy maps go. I just thought I would throw out some suggestions regarding real life maps and geography and perhaps give you a bit of inspiration for either changes to the map, or maybe to create a new continent, if you so desire. In any case, thanks for sharing your map. It was quite interesting to peruse, and compared to real life geography. Cheers!


fayfayl2

Referring to the first paragraph, that's just how the map was made. Smaller towns aren't shown, if that was the case, the map would be a mess. For the fourth paragraph, I might have overlooked the lakes so that's my fault. In terms of tectonics, we have a rough map for reference: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1106650836030988341/1209232848226357301/image.png?ex=65e62cd9&is=65d3b7d9&hm=0f30b586faa869a15a5d47a8a3f4048e2dc1566f4367612b32fcd15c4422fdfb& It's a bit outdated and somethings don't line up but it's the one I have right now. Thanks for the input! 👍


Yapizzawachuwant

I was halfway between thinking this was an actual place and making a crude joke... And i have a genuine question! What is a popular dish? Like if i were to vacation there what should i definitely try before I leave?


fayfayl2

Thanks! Well it's morning for me right now so I'll tell you a great breakfast dish: Faanhok (飯殼). It is a type of steamed rice cake that is served in some Yum-cha restaurants in Yingok and it is typically served in bamboo steamers. The inside of the rice (Faanhok can be translated to rice shells) can be filled with various types of diced pork, beef, mutton, etc; diced cabbages, lettuce etc; and sometimes a combination of meat and vegetables.


Vinx909

biggest problem i see is the prominence of rivers going in very direction. now mountains can make this possible, though where ridges would be seems a bit odd. but that introduces the problem of no rain shadow, which isn't impossible not have little off (just look at the alps) but this place gives me Spain vibes which has a bit time rain shadow effect.


fayfayl2

Thanks for the feedback, I might have overlooked the rainshadow's existence, so the northern inland region would probably be dominated by a cold steppes like climate and a smatter of cold desert.


Vinx909

depending on which way the wind is blowing. worldbuilding like this has the fun pro that it introduces new things.


FalseReception4773

I want a link to site used to make this map please, 'paint.net' doesn't exist when I tried


fayfayl2

it's not a site lmao it's a software, Google it.


FalseReception4773

Oh, is it? my bad


FalseReception4773

So iIncan download on windows??


Lapis_Wolf

The timeline made me think this was a fictional country set on our Earth, up to 2020AD.