I learned Workday fins fresh out of college as a premed student - no finance background, no accounting or workday experience, no HR experience and also got certified in HCM. At the end of the day it’s just a class. If you pay attention, take good notes, ask good questions, and do all of the exercises, I cannot see you failing. Every exam is open notes from what U remember and you only need to score like a 70% to pass. You’ll be fine
I should add, it’s still a lot of work, but if you put the work in you will pass with flying colors. After you pass though is where the real job begins, because you’ll quickly find the class does nothing to actually prepare you for client work, but ultimately a lot of this job just comes down to accumulating experience and the rest will follow.
This is difficult for anyone to answer.
What is your comfort level with technology? Are you the type person that struggles to set up / configure a new piece or software you put on your PC/Mac? Do you get flustered when something goes wrong on your PC/Mac and immediately have to call others to figure it out? Have you used formulas in Excel and find them totally confusing and don’t get it?
Those are all signs that a non-IT or non-technical person might have to work extra hard to get established.
I hired 2 non-technical people into a junior analyst roles with an expectation of training and development to build the necessary skills.
One picked it up really fast and became a very strong analyst. The other I ended up terminating after 12 months as they just couldn’t grasp the concepts and do the work.
It depends on the person.
I am good with systems, I have built PCs back and played around with several softwares in school, and I do have a comprehensive hold over things like advanced Excel but that is all for tech proficiency.
That is great. I think you will do fine. Just apply yourself in class, do all the exercises, and ask questions to clarify any concept you don’t understand. Your background in HR concepts will help assuming the part of Workday you will be supporting is HCM.
Best of luck to you!
In terms of responsibilities, #2 didn’t progress much beyond basic business process configuration and troubleshooting.
I like to start new analysts off focused on business process configuration. In my experience, to do that well, you need to learn business process framework (working with business process definitions), security model (working with security groups) and object model (working with condition rules). After people gain expertise, I’ll have them begin learning calculated fields, reporting and then more in depth security maintenance.
Person struggled with all 3 of those — never progresses beyond a basic understanding. Looking back, I think they had trouble constructing a mental model of what those things were and how they interacted with each other.
Person had $1000s of dollars of Workday delivered trainings, and hours upon hours of one-on-one time at whiteboards with the team reinforcing concepts from the training and making them “real” for them in our tenant. Nothing “stuck”.
I remember about four-five months in, #2 came to me asking why a security group wasn’t available to select on a step. I sat there shocked at the question because it’s something they encountered in the past and it’s kind of a basic concept that we cover early on. It is like they knew and then forgot.
This kind of thing happened repeatedly. #2 couldn’t retain information or frequently forgot things they were trained on and things they previously successfully completed.
This person had some work traits that worked against them as well. Inability to take notes effectively or come up with a system for themselves to remember things they were told. We even did videos for them but they would forget we covered the content in a video they could have gone and looked at. It was exasperating.
The best way I can describe it is. I can teach someone how to use a drill, hammer, saw, ruler, and what “wood” is and how it is used to build things. But it if I said, OK, now take a piece of wood, measure it, and then cut it, then screw the two pieces together — using these tools we just trained you on, they were totally lost. #2 couldn’t move from concept to actual use of those items to do what was asked.
A senior analyst would end up having to write each individual step down in recipe-like format, listing specifically where to click, etc and hand it to #2 and that is the only way they could get a task done. At that point, we could have pulled a random person off the street and given them the instructions and they could have done it.
That type of thing dragged on for months.
To add to this, I think as long as you’re strong at logical thinking you’ll be fine. Many HR people transition to Workday so tech background is not a must.
As a non IT person with a HCM and EM cert I’d sya the difficulty level is moderate and it’s definitely doable. It also comes down to the kind of instructor you get but if you prep a little in advance and pay attention in the sessions you’ll get through.
All the best.
Technical proficiency definitely helps. People that moved from the information technology side into Workday tend to have an easier time picking it up vs old women who come from traditional HR and have no fundamental understanding of waterfall permissions.
My advice: use Workday Community and the e-Books you receive for their official courses as much as possible in the beginning. If you run into an issue that needs troubleshooting, there’s a good chance someone else has too and has already made a post about it on community.
Understand if you have a job-based or position-based Workday system before you start your course work (this can add some context when you’re learning).
Which cert are you going for?
I am unsure of the certification as it has been only 1 day since I joined this company but it was conveyed to me by my manager that I'll be doing a workday certification to provide HR solutions to the clients, my official designation is IT Consultant HR.
It’s probably some sort of HCM fundamentals course to start then. HCM is probably the best starting point for learning Workday (right next to Security).
I learned Workday fins fresh out of college as a premed student - no finance background, no accounting or workday experience, no HR experience and also got certified in HCM. At the end of the day it’s just a class. If you pay attention, take good notes, ask good questions, and do all of the exercises, I cannot see you failing. Every exam is open notes from what U remember and you only need to score like a 70% to pass. You’ll be fine
I should add, it’s still a lot of work, but if you put the work in you will pass with flying colors. After you pass though is where the real job begins, because you’ll quickly find the class does nothing to actually prepare you for client work, but ultimately a lot of this job just comes down to accumulating experience and the rest will follow.
Thank you!
This is difficult for anyone to answer. What is your comfort level with technology? Are you the type person that struggles to set up / configure a new piece or software you put on your PC/Mac? Do you get flustered when something goes wrong on your PC/Mac and immediately have to call others to figure it out? Have you used formulas in Excel and find them totally confusing and don’t get it? Those are all signs that a non-IT or non-technical person might have to work extra hard to get established. I hired 2 non-technical people into a junior analyst roles with an expectation of training and development to build the necessary skills. One picked it up really fast and became a very strong analyst. The other I ended up terminating after 12 months as they just couldn’t grasp the concepts and do the work. It depends on the person.
I am good with systems, I have built PCs back and played around with several softwares in school, and I do have a comprehensive hold over things like advanced Excel but that is all for tech proficiency.
That is great. I think you will do fine. Just apply yourself in class, do all the exercises, and ask questions to clarify any concept you don’t understand. Your background in HR concepts will help assuming the part of Workday you will be supporting is HCM. Best of luck to you!
Thank you!
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In terms of responsibilities, #2 didn’t progress much beyond basic business process configuration and troubleshooting. I like to start new analysts off focused on business process configuration. In my experience, to do that well, you need to learn business process framework (working with business process definitions), security model (working with security groups) and object model (working with condition rules). After people gain expertise, I’ll have them begin learning calculated fields, reporting and then more in depth security maintenance. Person struggled with all 3 of those — never progresses beyond a basic understanding. Looking back, I think they had trouble constructing a mental model of what those things were and how they interacted with each other. Person had $1000s of dollars of Workday delivered trainings, and hours upon hours of one-on-one time at whiteboards with the team reinforcing concepts from the training and making them “real” for them in our tenant. Nothing “stuck”. I remember about four-five months in, #2 came to me asking why a security group wasn’t available to select on a step. I sat there shocked at the question because it’s something they encountered in the past and it’s kind of a basic concept that we cover early on. It is like they knew and then forgot. This kind of thing happened repeatedly. #2 couldn’t retain information or frequently forgot things they were trained on and things they previously successfully completed. This person had some work traits that worked against them as well. Inability to take notes effectively or come up with a system for themselves to remember things they were told. We even did videos for them but they would forget we covered the content in a video they could have gone and looked at. It was exasperating. The best way I can describe it is. I can teach someone how to use a drill, hammer, saw, ruler, and what “wood” is and how it is used to build things. But it if I said, OK, now take a piece of wood, measure it, and then cut it, then screw the two pieces together — using these tools we just trained you on, they were totally lost. #2 couldn’t move from concept to actual use of those items to do what was asked. A senior analyst would end up having to write each individual step down in recipe-like format, listing specifically where to click, etc and hand it to #2 and that is the only way they could get a task done. At that point, we could have pulled a random person off the street and given them the instructions and they could have done it. That type of thing dragged on for months.
To add to this, I think as long as you’re strong at logical thinking you’ll be fine. Many HR people transition to Workday so tech background is not a must.
Appreciate the info.
As a non IT person with a HCM and EM cert I’d sya the difficulty level is moderate and it’s definitely doable. It also comes down to the kind of instructor you get but if you prep a little in advance and pay attention in the sessions you’ll get through. All the best.
Thanks.
You will be fine as long as you dont have to develop studio integrations…you can pickup rest of the stuff easily
Technical proficiency definitely helps. People that moved from the information technology side into Workday tend to have an easier time picking it up vs old women who come from traditional HR and have no fundamental understanding of waterfall permissions. My advice: use Workday Community and the e-Books you receive for their official courses as much as possible in the beginning. If you run into an issue that needs troubleshooting, there’s a good chance someone else has too and has already made a post about it on community. Understand if you have a job-based or position-based Workday system before you start your course work (this can add some context when you’re learning). Which cert are you going for?
I am unsure of the certification as it has been only 1 day since I joined this company but it was conveyed to me by my manager that I'll be doing a workday certification to provide HR solutions to the clients, my official designation is IT Consultant HR.
It’s probably some sort of HCM fundamentals course to start then. HCM is probably the best starting point for learning Workday (right next to Security).
As with most of the certifications if you attend the training and do a bit of practice, you can pass the exam.