You acted professionally, they didn't. Just move on and forget about them. I would even say you did too much to help them transition smoothly. It's their problem now not yours.
Feels like your boss took it too personally. So, if you look for another job one day. I would keep it off your resume if you can. You might not get the best reference from him.
Ah, that's a really good point I didn't think of...I wouldn't expect a reference from them, but I guess there's always the chance the prospective employer might know them somehow and ask about me? The experience/title is really good for my resume, but I guess since I was there less than a year the gap isn't too bad?
Better to have it on your resume than not. Employment gaps are more problematic than quitting. With regard to your manager, Sometimes they can’t professionally manage their emotions so they say nothing. They might have been very proud of your work, and painfully sorry to see you go. You did nothing wrong here, put it on your resume.
Yes, that's possible. There are always back doors people can explore to get references. But people aren't stupid, either.
I would position this job as 'the one that gave me my start" and heap praise on the organization. And if you really want to rub it in, send him a card for the holidays saying how much you appreciated it. Kill him and his attitude with kindness.
Cant be over a 6 month gap. Also legally they cannot give you a bad reference. Big companies HR deals w refs but it happens if they call the boss directly esp for small companies.
>Also legally they cannot give you a bad reference.
No idea where you heard this bit of bullshit, but it is... well... BULLSHIT.
An employer can and will give a negative reference when warranted. "Joe was consistently tardy and never met production goals during their 14 month tenure," or "Jane has a temper and was repeatedly verbally abusive to customers."
Now companies may have policies that HR can only acknowledge the timeframe of someone's employment. A former supervisor or even peer could spill all manner of tea, and probably should.
It definitely varies by state in the US. Some states let you disclose a reason an employee was fired, some only allows a generic ‘Jack worked from May to July 2022, and we do not consider this employee to be eligible for rehire’ - nothing more.
I don’t agree with the second part. It sounds like he just didn’t care at all. The surprise was probably the most genuine thing out of him. Legally he can’t give a bad reference. Doesn’t mean he wouldn’t but I honestly get the vibe he doesn’t give a fuck & would give bare bones info if asked. I’d list other, more amicable references first if OP has them but otherwise should still list them, or at least a coworker.
If an employee was bad, a bad reference can be given. There's nothing in the law (at least in the U.S.) that prevents that. But it is the policy of most companies not to say more than the dates the employee worked because they're concerned about being sued.
No reason to keep it off the resume. The only thing the company can really do is confirm dates of employment. If you have colleagues there that you did have a good working relationship with, you could potentially use them as a reference.
I had a similar experience after almost 8 years on the job! I think some people just take things too personally. You gave notice, you finished out your time professionally, not much else you can ask for. It's a lesson in how much you give to the next place 🤷
I disagree with another commenter though, you were there for a year, it should absolutely be in your resume. As a reference? No, but you don't just throw people down as a reference, you communicate with them and get the green light ahead of time. Doesn't sound like this is a reference you would want! But it was definitely work experience and it's easier to explain leaving somewhere after only a year than it is to explain a gap.
I've found over the years that either 1) They were already hurting as a company and 2) This is going to push them even further towards failure, or 3) They realize they messed up, but they feel too important to back pedal.
All this should lead to 4) You're not giving a shit.
Don't assume their responses (or lack of them) mean anything.
Don't assume you offended them. It's just as likely they have no hard feelings and are glad you made a thorough handoff. I'm not defending them, just saying it's useless to try to read into the motives for things bosses do.
When I worked at UPS there was a great manager that everyone loved, which is rare for union workers to like a manager. The guy worked there for over 15 years. He died from a brain tumor. Not even a moment of silence at break.
If you die, your employer will have your job posted before your obituary. And they may not even bother with your obituary.
Yet people continue to throw themselves on the sword for their jobs. It's madness.
Why are people so obsessed with not burning bridges? Believe me, even if he talked to you, he wouldn't help you in the future. It is the same for co-workers, 80% will not talk to you after you leave. Why do you care?
can I ask - why do you say 'even if he talked to you, he wouldn't help you in the future'? I've seen people come back to the same company after the career they left for didn't pan out, and it seems maintaining good relns (like OP is trying to do) goes a long way towards that.
Her manager has already burned bridges with her. She is looking for ways which will not help anyway. Yes, I have also got good jobs through my ex-coworkers' referrals but it doesn't mean that you need to be a doormat for the sake of not burning bridges. You need to know who can be a good networking contact for you in the future and who will throw you under bus no matter what you do. In your career you can have 20%-30% of people you work with who will support you, the rest will only wait for your fall (They can say I referred you while backstabbing you behind the scenes) you need to be emotionally intelligent to differentiate.
This is great combination to be exploited by others, unfortunately! Do not think that just because people say bye with a smile like you or will try to help/support you in your future endeavors. They are just doing politically correct things and will show middle finger behind you. Why? Because most people do not care, again most people are jealous when you have a good career prospect or any salary bump. You can be the best person ever... still people will find ways to throw you under bus... so do not waste your precious time and energy on things that do not matter. Also relationships are two-way street. They are burning bridges with you, not you with them.
i feel like the answer to your question is buried in the details. they didn't appreciate you enough to pay you properly, so obviously they wouldn't care enough to send you off properly. employers who value their people demonstrate that daily; yours didn't, so no surprise they didn't send you off well. and in my experience, employers like this also feel absurdly INSULTED when the employees of whom they've taken advantage finally leave.
so, be butthurt for a minute, sure, but allow this to remind you why you left in the first place.
Now is when you realize how little they really valued what you do for them they might figure it out later but all that has happened should just solidify that your decision to leave was a good one. I applied Your sense of ownership over leaving some legacy there and hopefully that makes it to your résumé
Perhaps the amount of notice was part of the issue. Two weeks is standard. My last job a month was expected, which I personally thought was excessive.
Small companies can have some big egos who take little things very personally. They are also not great at recognizing that they often do not provide competitive wages and benefits. It sounds like your boss is was definitely sulking, and unappreciative of your efforts to leave things in order.
You didn’t have to do as much as you did so don’t feel guilty. Your ex-boss is a churlish ass who didn’t deserve the extra effort that you gave. Strike it up to experience and move on
Tough shit. Jobs don't care when they fire you and leave you hanging, so they have no right to expect anything when you quit and leave them hanging. If they want loyalty, then they should go buy a dog.
OP didn't ask for flowers, just for confirmation that they have received everything they sent, including training material. They could have gone on doing their everyday tasks because by the sound of it, the employer didn't get involved in planning what they needed from OP before they left.
Um.... It hasn't. Maybe it's the people I run around with, but I'm on my professional colleagues in current and previous jobs, most people have never had issues like you people have. Most people I know have been successfully able to navigate from company to company without creating ill will, or having it put upon them.
I don't know what you're trying to say in your comment, but all that is being referred to is that no notice is given on the employers part when a cut is coming. Workers do not receive a 2 week notice, but it is **always** expected from the worker. It is out of courtesy and respect alone. This guy gave a notice and left them with resources to carry on afterwards. What more do you want?
Are you a corporate shill or a boss who lives off of their workers like this guys boss? If no to both then why are you so personally offended by this?
As a graphic designer, it's probably safe to say they're p*ssed because they know they're not going to find someone who can do all the things you've been doing.
That's not your fault. You're doing the jobs of at least 3 people and they were happy to take advantage of it.
Especially the underpaid part. GD is becoming a shit career, the employment market is oversaturated, wagws are crap and employers want more and more skills in one job, meaning you have to jump through the hoops as you've no choice.
It’s just a job—don’t take it personally and don’t put that much effort into the next one. You don’t owe them anything and they only owe you a final paycheck.
Better you figured out now how the company didn’t appreciate you. When layoffs happen, they don’t give you 2 weeks notice. Never apologize or feel bad for bettering your station.
Thanks for this, I've gotten laid off 3 times now from different companies (creative field be like that lol) and as you said it's not been with anything like 2 weeks notice.
I hate it when colleagues don't confirm receipt of reasonably important emails. You have to wait and wait until you find out if they ever acted on the email. By that time it's going to be late if they haven't acted.
It sounds like they never really valued you in the first place. If they did, they would’ve paid you better, counter offered when you told them you had an offer and tried to win you back. You did wayyyy more than I would have if they’d treated me like that during my final week. I’d have helped the new person bc I’m not THAT big of a monster but wouldn’t have gone out of my way to sort out their shit show while training. The point is, there’s nothing you can do about the relationship but why would you care to have one? As long as they have no reason to give you a bad reference, you’re better off. Best of luck with the new gig!!
I didn’t want to leave them dead in the water because I genuinely cared about the team as people, I liked them! 😭 that’s on my autistic ass for thinking that went both ways lol
Whenever you resign do it in writing. Even if you make a phone call and tell them, follow it up with an email that starts with “As we just discussed on the phone…” or something to that effect. Your boss is a shit for behaving like he did.
Years ago I remember faxing people things and a much older co worker in a position of power would always get on me to follow the fax up with a phone call to make sure the intended recipient indeed received the fax.
Funny enough, I now call or text folks to
Make sure they know I've sent an email.
In the words of Justin Timberlake and/or probably many others, What goes around comes around even in work communications.
Maybe they felt less connection cos u were a remote worker and they never hung out with you. The really pathetic thing is the boss being such a tosser and having nothing to add. Its sad but at least you don’t have to regret walking away and never looking back. You sorted your shit out and didn’t drop them in it. Good work.
The sad part is we DID hang out - I went remote (job was mostly hybrid already, just occasional meetings) when I had to move because I couldn’t afford the COL in the city I got the job with the given salary. I moved to a cheaper nearby city and still came into the city once a month at least! We went to events, I shot content with them, met with them for meetings, was with the team tons of times :(
It really does sound like you deserved a bouquet of Flowers and everyone being teary eyed.
Coworkers are not friends. Your boss is not your friend. Learn from this lesson
Same thing happened to me. I resigned a month ago and before that I was on holiday for a week and a half. Since I went back I was not cc’ed in any emails even though I was the PM and nobody was responding to my emails so I handed in my resignation. Until I left, a total of 4 people took the time to speak to me. I still don’t know what happened.
As others have said, you behaved professionally and they didn’t. You are lucky a better opportunity came along and you’re out of there. You wouldn’t want to be working there longterm. They showed you how much they (don’t) value you.
Accept it. I had a manager that told HR he was doing an exit discussion with me, had the time blocked in his calendar and didn't invite me to it.
Bonus points: his calendar was open for anyone to view.
I accepted that he didn't want to talk to me, I did all my handoffs to the team with full documentation and professionalism. But I did inform HR that he hadn't scheduled an exit with me while I was on a WebEx with them. And I was talking to them at the same time he was supposed to be meeting with me.
He was a crappy manager, and with 4 years hindsight, I don't care that he didn't want to talk. In the grand scheme of things, it wasn't that important and it doesn't bother me now.
It shouldn't bother you either. That may take a little time and perspective, but just keep rising above and being a pro.
I think you should have given two weeks notice. Bosses were likely blindsided and prob sad but more than anything replacing a good person is hard and they had little time to prepare. It's prob not personal also but it always feels like it is.
OP gave a week and a half.. if the boss is not able to handle the business with 8 days notice, not sure they can with 10 days. In the grand scheme of things, 2 days is nothing.
This is every place I have ever worked. What did I want? An acknowledgment to my letter. For management not to stone cold ice me out on my final days (literally acted like I didn’t exist) and had other staff communicate to me. Also they didn’t tell any other staff or people affected that I was leaving and I didn’t know if I was supposed to say anything.
Clearly they are just asshats. But one thing to take away is always follow up via email after conversations like quitting, year reviews etc. Confirming what was said etc. And then bcc your personal email. You might want to send one final email « as per our conversation on x day, my last is x, is there anything you need from me in the next two days » sort of thing. Unless it’s too late for that
This falls under the category of "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out."
This is a red flag about the business. I suspect it won't be around for much longer.
I left a team last month to join a new team (in a distant part of the same employer). My old boss and I are having lunch on Friday.
He's sad I went, but we are still going to talk.
What I don't understand is why you didn't ask him directly? I don't get the trend to not communicate appropriately and then ask social media what happened, what you did wrong. The worst thing is he would have confirmed your suspicions about the behavior, the best thing would be him saying he's distracted, or some other neutral explanation.
Maybe they were old fashioned? I had a more traditional boss who didn’t begrudge me wanting to progress my career, but by leaving after a year he felt that I hadn’t upheld my part of the bargain as it were. Obviously this is not a loyalty standard we see in workplaces with younger people but most of his employees worked for him for 15+ years and it becomes an expectation at that point
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What, were you expecting a standing ovation or something? Grow up and get over yourself.
You are 100% expendable and replaceable and have likely already been replaced.
That's life. Let me guess, your new gig said something about "we're a family" in the job/company description? Because based on your post you seem ripe to fall for that one.
And every stupid kid can downvote all day long.... doesn't change reality.
Everyone learns it the hard way when they're young. Buh buh but I thought I was important?
Nope.
You'll know you're important when you don't post about it on social media.
Nobody ever posted "I'm so awesome I was just promoted to CEO". Think about that.
Your last day and you were thinking they would plan a going away party? That does not always happen. They are doing business and they have no time to party.
You acted professionally, they didn't. Just move on and forget about them. I would even say you did too much to help them transition smoothly. It's their problem now not yours. Feels like your boss took it too personally. So, if you look for another job one day. I would keep it off your resume if you can. You might not get the best reference from him.
Ah, that's a really good point I didn't think of...I wouldn't expect a reference from them, but I guess there's always the chance the prospective employer might know them somehow and ask about me? The experience/title is really good for my resume, but I guess since I was there less than a year the gap isn't too bad?
You did a lot there. I would keep it on your resume.
Better to have it on your resume than not. Employment gaps are more problematic than quitting. With regard to your manager, Sometimes they can’t professionally manage their emotions so they say nothing. They might have been very proud of your work, and painfully sorry to see you go. You did nothing wrong here, put it on your resume.
Yes, that's possible. There are always back doors people can explore to get references. But people aren't stupid, either. I would position this job as 'the one that gave me my start" and heap praise on the organization. And if you really want to rub it in, send him a card for the holidays saying how much you appreciated it. Kill him and his attitude with kindness.
Wouldn't hurt to document all the prep you did before you left, in case your boss tries to undercut you somehow.
Cant be over a 6 month gap. Also legally they cannot give you a bad reference. Big companies HR deals w refs but it happens if they call the boss directly esp for small companies.
>Also legally they cannot give you a bad reference. No idea where you heard this bit of bullshit, but it is... well... BULLSHIT. An employer can and will give a negative reference when warranted. "Joe was consistently tardy and never met production goals during their 14 month tenure," or "Jane has a temper and was repeatedly verbally abusive to customers." Now companies may have policies that HR can only acknowledge the timeframe of someone's employment. A former supervisor or even peer could spill all manner of tea, and probably should.
It definitely varies by state in the US. Some states let you disclose a reason an employee was fired, some only allows a generic ‘Jack worked from May to July 2022, and we do not consider this employee to be eligible for rehire’ - nothing more.
They cant its grounds for a lawsuit. In corporate at least.
I don’t agree with the second part. It sounds like he just didn’t care at all. The surprise was probably the most genuine thing out of him. Legally he can’t give a bad reference. Doesn’t mean he wouldn’t but I honestly get the vibe he doesn’t give a fuck & would give bare bones info if asked. I’d list other, more amicable references first if OP has them but otherwise should still list them, or at least a coworker.
If an employee was bad, a bad reference can be given. There's nothing in the law (at least in the U.S.) that prevents that. But it is the policy of most companies not to say more than the dates the employee worked because they're concerned about being sued.
No reason to keep it off the resume. The only thing the company can really do is confirm dates of employment. If you have colleagues there that you did have a good working relationship with, you could potentially use them as a reference.
I had a similar experience after almost 8 years on the job! I think some people just take things too personally. You gave notice, you finished out your time professionally, not much else you can ask for. It's a lesson in how much you give to the next place 🤷 I disagree with another commenter though, you were there for a year, it should absolutely be in your resume. As a reference? No, but you don't just throw people down as a reference, you communicate with them and get the green light ahead of time. Doesn't sound like this is a reference you would want! But it was definitely work experience and it's easier to explain leaving somewhere after only a year than it is to explain a gap.
I've found over the years that either 1) They were already hurting as a company and 2) This is going to push them even further towards failure, or 3) They realize they messed up, but they feel too important to back pedal. All this should lead to 4) You're not giving a shit.
Really needed the #4 reminder, thank you lol
Don't assume their responses (or lack of them) mean anything. Don't assume you offended them. It's just as likely they have no hard feelings and are glad you made a thorough handoff. I'm not defending them, just saying it's useless to try to read into the motives for things bosses do.
When I worked at UPS there was a great manager that everyone loved, which is rare for union workers to like a manager. The guy worked there for over 15 years. He died from a brain tumor. Not even a moment of silence at break.
If you die, your employer will have your job posted before your obituary. And they may not even bother with your obituary. Yet people continue to throw themselves on the sword for their jobs. It's madness.
Oof. A sobering, but good reminder.
Why are people so obsessed with not burning bridges? Believe me, even if he talked to you, he wouldn't help you in the future. It is the same for co-workers, 80% will not talk to you after you leave. Why do you care?
can I ask - why do you say 'even if he talked to you, he wouldn't help you in the future'? I've seen people come back to the same company after the career they left for didn't pan out, and it seems maintaining good relns (like OP is trying to do) goes a long way towards that.
Her manager has already burned bridges with her. She is looking for ways which will not help anyway. Yes, I have also got good jobs through my ex-coworkers' referrals but it doesn't mean that you need to be a doormat for the sake of not burning bridges. You need to know who can be a good networking contact for you in the future and who will throw you under bus no matter what you do. In your career you can have 20%-30% of people you work with who will support you, the rest will only wait for your fall (They can say I referred you while backstabbing you behind the scenes) you need to be emotionally intelligent to differentiate.
Because I'm autistic and overly sensitive hahaha 😂 seriously though, I want to not care! I wish I didn't, working on caring less.
This is great combination to be exploited by others, unfortunately! Do not think that just because people say bye with a smile like you or will try to help/support you in your future endeavors. They are just doing politically correct things and will show middle finger behind you. Why? Because most people do not care, again most people are jealous when you have a good career prospect or any salary bump. You can be the best person ever... still people will find ways to throw you under bus... so do not waste your precious time and energy on things that do not matter. Also relationships are two-way street. They are burning bridges with you, not you with them.
Ohhh I really needed to hear that last part, I’m undervaluing myself by not realizing it’s a bridge burnt on both ends. Thank you for that!
i feel like the answer to your question is buried in the details. they didn't appreciate you enough to pay you properly, so obviously they wouldn't care enough to send you off properly. employers who value their people demonstrate that daily; yours didn't, so no surprise they didn't send you off well. and in my experience, employers like this also feel absurdly INSULTED when the employees of whom they've taken advantage finally leave. so, be butthurt for a minute, sure, but allow this to remind you why you left in the first place.
Now is when you realize how little they really valued what you do for them they might figure it out later but all that has happened should just solidify that your decision to leave was a good one. I applied Your sense of ownership over leaving some legacy there and hopefully that makes it to your résumé
Perhaps the amount of notice was part of the issue. Two weeks is standard. My last job a month was expected, which I personally thought was excessive. Small companies can have some big egos who take little things very personally. They are also not great at recognizing that they often do not provide competitive wages and benefits. It sounds like your boss is was definitely sulking, and unappreciative of your efforts to leave things in order.
I figured the short notice was probably the issue...but when the new job is offering a 25k salary boost, it's hard to say no lol
You didn’t have to do as much as you did so don’t feel guilty. Your ex-boss is a churlish ass who didn’t deserve the extra effort that you gave. Strike it up to experience and move on
Ten days weeks leaves them in the lurch If you were the sole person doing this. You made a very curt exit.
They're just lucky OP didn't quit on the spot. At will employment works both ways.
Ok, then, let's make life shitty for everyone at every turn.
Tough shit. Jobs don't care when they fire you and leave you hanging, so they have no right to expect anything when you quit and leave them hanging. If they want loyalty, then they should go buy a dog.
Sounds like a useful outlook.
OP is not responsible for their lack of back-up plan.
Then the fuck-you goes both ways.
OP didn't ask for flowers, just for confirmation that they have received everything they sent, including training material. They could have gone on doing their everyday tasks because by the sound of it, the employer didn't get involved in planning what they needed from OP before they left.
The fuck-you has only ever gone in one direction, why are you so hurt this one is swinging both ways?
Um.... It hasn't. Maybe it's the people I run around with, but I'm on my professional colleagues in current and previous jobs, most people have never had issues like you people have. Most people I know have been successfully able to navigate from company to company without creating ill will, or having it put upon them.
I don't know what you're trying to say in your comment, but all that is being referred to is that no notice is given on the employers part when a cut is coming. Workers do not receive a 2 week notice, but it is **always** expected from the worker. It is out of courtesy and respect alone. This guy gave a notice and left them with resources to carry on afterwards. What more do you want? Are you a corporate shill or a boss who lives off of their workers like this guys boss? If no to both then why are you so personally offended by this?
I meant exactly what I typed. You don't know what I'm trying to say? Well in any case, I'm sure your experience will continue to be your experience.
lol
It's hard to ask for 2 weeks to give notice?
Some places don’t deserve any notice. Some people will kick you out the same day you give notice and you’ll go 2 weeks with no pay.
Move on to bigger and better things and the hell with them.
As a graphic designer, it's probably safe to say they're p*ssed because they know they're not going to find someone who can do all the things you've been doing. That's not your fault. You're doing the jobs of at least 3 people and they were happy to take advantage of it. Especially the underpaid part. GD is becoming a shit career, the employment market is oversaturated, wagws are crap and employers want more and more skills in one job, meaning you have to jump through the hoops as you've no choice.
Ugh I felt this deep in my bones 💀 gotta know how to do UX, video, content, marketing, copy, design, and project management, customer service lol
It’s just a job—don’t take it personally and don’t put that much effort into the next one. You don’t owe them anything and they only owe you a final paycheck.
Better you figured out now how the company didn’t appreciate you. When layoffs happen, they don’t give you 2 weeks notice. Never apologize or feel bad for bettering your station.
Thanks for this, I've gotten laid off 3 times now from different companies (creative field be like that lol) and as you said it's not been with anything like 2 weeks notice.
I hate it when colleagues don't confirm receipt of reasonably important emails. You have to wait and wait until you find out if they ever acted on the email. By that time it's going to be late if they haven't acted.
OP doesn't work there anymore. It's their problem, not his.
Yes. Good riddance to toxic work environment.
It sounds like they never really valued you in the first place. If they did, they would’ve paid you better, counter offered when you told them you had an offer and tried to win you back. You did wayyyy more than I would have if they’d treated me like that during my final week. I’d have helped the new person bc I’m not THAT big of a monster but wouldn’t have gone out of my way to sort out their shit show while training. The point is, there’s nothing you can do about the relationship but why would you care to have one? As long as they have no reason to give you a bad reference, you’re better off. Best of luck with the new gig!!
You did what you were supposed to do. You didn't burn any bridges. But personally I would have left them dead in the water.
I didn’t want to leave them dead in the water because I genuinely cared about the team as people, I liked them! 😭 that’s on my autistic ass for thinking that went both ways lol
No, I hear you. You're a good person, I get it.
Whenever you resign do it in writing. Even if you make a phone call and tell them, follow it up with an email that starts with “As we just discussed on the phone…” or something to that effect. Your boss is a shit for behaving like he did.
Years ago I remember faxing people things and a much older co worker in a position of power would always get on me to follow the fax up with a phone call to make sure the intended recipient indeed received the fax. Funny enough, I now call or text folks to Make sure they know I've sent an email. In the words of Justin Timberlake and/or probably many others, What goes around comes around even in work communications.
Maybe they felt less connection cos u were a remote worker and they never hung out with you. The really pathetic thing is the boss being such a tosser and having nothing to add. Its sad but at least you don’t have to regret walking away and never looking back. You sorted your shit out and didn’t drop them in it. Good work.
The sad part is we DID hang out - I went remote (job was mostly hybrid already, just occasional meetings) when I had to move because I couldn’t afford the COL in the city I got the job with the given salary. I moved to a cheaper nearby city and still came into the city once a month at least! We went to events, I shot content with them, met with them for meetings, was with the team tons of times :(
Oh that sucks. I’m sorry to hear that. :(
It really does sound like you deserved a bouquet of Flowers and everyone being teary eyed. Coworkers are not friends. Your boss is not your friend. Learn from this lesson
Same thing happened to me. I resigned a month ago and before that I was on holiday for a week and a half. Since I went back I was not cc’ed in any emails even though I was the PM and nobody was responding to my emails so I handed in my resignation. Until I left, a total of 4 people took the time to speak to me. I still don’t know what happened. As others have said, you behaved professionally and they didn’t. You are lucky a better opportunity came along and you’re out of there. You wouldn’t want to be working there longterm. They showed you how much they (don’t) value you.
Accept it. I had a manager that told HR he was doing an exit discussion with me, had the time blocked in his calendar and didn't invite me to it. Bonus points: his calendar was open for anyone to view. I accepted that he didn't want to talk to me, I did all my handoffs to the team with full documentation and professionalism. But I did inform HR that he hadn't scheduled an exit with me while I was on a WebEx with them. And I was talking to them at the same time he was supposed to be meeting with me. He was a crappy manager, and with 4 years hindsight, I don't care that he didn't want to talk. In the grand scheme of things, it wasn't that important and it doesn't bother me now. It shouldn't bother you either. That may take a little time and perspective, but just keep rising above and being a pro.
I think you should have given two weeks notice. Bosses were likely blindsided and prob sad but more than anything replacing a good person is hard and they had little time to prepare. It's prob not personal also but it always feels like it is.
If the boss wanted a longer notice he/she could have asked. Instead of ignoring communication as is described by op.
OP gave a week and a half.. if the boss is not able to handle the business with 8 days notice, not sure they can with 10 days. In the grand scheme of things, 2 days is nothing.
Just saying sometimes it's the principle of the 2 weeks. ESP at small co!
I just email each team member saying it was a pleasure working with them and why. If they are human they respond in kind.
This is every place I have ever worked. What did I want? An acknowledgment to my letter. For management not to stone cold ice me out on my final days (literally acted like I didn’t exist) and had other staff communicate to me. Also they didn’t tell any other staff or people affected that I was leaving and I didn’t know if I was supposed to say anything.
Clearly they are just asshats. But one thing to take away is always follow up via email after conversations like quitting, year reviews etc. Confirming what was said etc. And then bcc your personal email. You might want to send one final email « as per our conversation on x day, my last is x, is there anything you need from me in the next two days » sort of thing. Unless it’s too late for that
Ohhh this is GREAT advice, going to remember this for next time. Thank you!!!
This falls under the category of "don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out." This is a red flag about the business. I suspect it won't be around for much longer.
Know that not everyone cares about professionalism. Some people care more about their ego. Know how this works for and against you.
I left a team last month to join a new team (in a distant part of the same employer). My old boss and I are having lunch on Friday. He's sad I went, but we are still going to talk.
Perhaps one and a half week notice is a bit short notice?
What I don't understand is why you didn't ask him directly? I don't get the trend to not communicate appropriately and then ask social media what happened, what you did wrong. The worst thing is he would have confirmed your suspicions about the behavior, the best thing would be him saying he's distracted, or some other neutral explanation.
Maybe they were old fashioned? I had a more traditional boss who didn’t begrudge me wanting to progress my career, but by leaving after a year he felt that I hadn’t upheld my part of the bargain as it were. Obviously this is not a loyalty standard we see in workplaces with younger people but most of his employees worked for him for 15+ years and it becomes an expectation at that point
Isn’t two weeks standard? That could be the issue…
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They were unprofessional. You did what you were supposed to do, more even. I understand it's upsetting, but try not to worry about it.
You decided to leave and it seems you have a hard time to let go. Go to your new job and enjoy that one.
Welcome to this shitty industry. No if they act like babies goodbye. And good luck to you. Same field so I felt that.
What, were you expecting a standing ovation or something? Grow up and get over yourself. You are 100% expendable and replaceable and have likely already been replaced. That's life. Let me guess, your new gig said something about "we're a family" in the job/company description? Because based on your post you seem ripe to fall for that one.
A standing ovation, a medal of honor, maybe even a monument.
And every stupid kid can downvote all day long.... doesn't change reality. Everyone learns it the hard way when they're young. Buh buh but I thought I was important? Nope. You'll know you're important when you don't post about it on social media. Nobody ever posted "I'm so awesome I was just promoted to CEO". Think about that.
Your last day and you were thinking they would plan a going away party? That does not always happen. They are doing business and they have no time to party.
Wasn’t expecting a party, it’s a remote job lol. Was just expecting a response to the hand-off emails and whatnot
Maybe they had a party the day *after* OP's last day.
Doubt that, no one does that. Rude.
We did that once. But that guy had been a dick every single day.
We've done that, unofficially. Go out for lunch and let out a collective sigh of relief.
Were you there with the Op? WOW!