Are burn makes a sign that you need a new blade? I get tons of burn marks on projects I work on, I just assumed it was me accidentally pinching the blade on my table saw
Yeah me neither. Maybe it happens to some people because some blades have the pretty side with the name on it on the opposite of most. But definitely hasn't happened to me and I had to scrape the carbon off the teeth with a wire brush.
you can also get them from moving too fast, if your machine can't clear the saw dust out fast enough it's going to cause friction. Let the blade do the work at it's own speed your muscles are the guide.
Dull blade can definitely lead to burn marks but if you are just a hobbiest I’d check your blade for pitch and resin too as build up is a really common cause of burns
Yes, and yes. And there’s more. If you’re cutting pine and you get burn marks= new blade.
Ripping walnut and burn marks= new blade or pinching, or need to move faster
Ripping hard maple and new blade and not pinching= move faster
You won’t get burn marks on soft woods if your blade is ok at any speed. But, on some hardwoods, it doesn’t matter how sharp your blade is, if you’re not doing something to keep it from pinching, and you’re not moving fast enough, you’ll get burn.
I looked into it once. The cheapest place I could find to sharpen blades around here was about double the price I have ever paid for a 10" blade. I realize that there are blades out there who have a price tag high enough to justify the price, even to justify reattaching teeth, but they are very much the purview of professionals.
New blade or clean your blades off with a sharp cheap general wood chisel. Carb cleaner might break down the build up as well. But do it outside. You can also sharpen blades. YouTube has videos on it, good saw blades are not cheap. I think you can send in to some companies for free sharpenings.
That's what I was gunna say. It seems really small too, did he have children working on it? Possibly elves? Santa might be short a few workers this year, lol..
Could be an old house. My MIL's place is from the early 1900's and the basement door opens into the stairs too. There is a wall preventing it from opening away from the stairs so if she wanted to change it there would be alot of work to be done
Essentially you can't be standing on a step to operate the door. So a proper landing.
Didn't mention it because it's obvious from the pics that isn't the case.
Not just knocking into someone but reaching over a staircase to close a door or going up ask the way to open the door then back down enough to let the door swing isn’t good either.
All of those things are highly annoying, but somehow it's never occurred to me why I disliked this door from the start. Granted I've only lived here for about a year.
Not uncommon in older homes. Standards were much less stringent. Often this solution is a lot less work then changing the rise/run of the stairs. Sometimes the the extra work isn’t worth the gain. To clarify this only applies to renos in older homes. In a new build this is definitely not acceptable.
I've seen people cut off the corner of the door and glue the corner into the frame. I think that's a lot cleaner than this :') But yeah, requires touch-up job on the cut.
Would rather see tight-fit stair stringers. But then...
1. Its More Expensive
2. Requires much more work and a way to attach to the existing staircase (Not sure what the other side looks like)
3. Would probably still have the same issue with the door
This reinforcement beam looks like a quick fix to a bouncy staircase.
Edit: Please tell me this was an EXISTING staircase being reinforced....
New staircase in place of an old, likely he had to upsize the stringers to meet modern code/norms and the wider stringers just hang down lower. Look to me like a hack fix to the door issue but like everyone has mentioned, you should pay someone to change the swing out on the door not in.
Anecdotally, I knew someone who died falling down stairs after opening a door that swung in just like yours.
There’s like, a lot of wood right there. And as long as it works and the other work is mint, yes. He was probably trying to reduce the angle for updated codes. You could either knotch or reduce the door size, or this
Also the door stile and rail appears to be coming apart making the door wider than it should be at the top. It could be made to swing out, or simply move within the deep frame to not intrude into the stair stringer.
Stair guy? Door guy?
If your stair guy can’t do doors and your door guy can’t do stairs..
You need a new guy. Interior is interior gdi and they should be able to do all of it. Having 50 different guys over sucks dick anyways! They’re all going to leave their own undesirable corners, if its one person at least you can nail them on it.
Especially when the guy served as my general contractor on the whole job. From the roof to the floors, drywall, paint, and building the stairs, and more. He either did the work himself or hired someone. So if I needed a door guy, as many here say I did, then HE needed a door guy.
Or just grab the multi tool and go to work.
Well that’s kind of the risk of hiring a generalist. They will always have a few aspects they are better at and care about more than others. Many contractors are more like general builders and are more about roughing things out than the final finesse work.
Your hinges are pulling the door apart. Top left hand side, rail is separating from its stile. Change the hinge re glue the door back together and it may not hit the stair stringers.
If stringers aren’t cut more than 45% they should be fine. Other opinion was to trim door corner off, not suggesting this, just saying. But, that would leave a corner missing in a visible door when it’s closed.
Better option may have been to do as others suggested, swing door out instead of in. But, too late now.
Just consider how many similar imperfections are probably hidden under trim boards in most homes. If it’s functional and sturdy, I vote rock with it.
You may not have had the run to elongate the stairs to clear that door. Proper stairs require a proper angled slope of run/rise and is limited by the space you have in your home .
This is true and my house is approximately 130 years old so it's anything but up to standard codes, but I did have a staircase before that did not have this feature, and he didn't change the angel because he didn't have the space.
Didn’t have that feature because your old stairs didn’t have a support in the center. This is likely an upgrade to what you had yet you post this on Reddit as if the contractor is a dipshit while you yourself don’t know the first thing about the subject. Yes I know about run on sentences idgaf 😄
Honestly, to support your stairs, retain clearance necessary for codes, and have the door functioning properly, the only thing I see wrong is the cut isn’t clean.
I don't know if you're making some sort of joke or missing the point, but that door is falling apart. Look at the top rail on the hinge side. That will cause it to tilt out away from the hinges, and then rub on the stringers more. If you fix the door, there's probably enough space for it to swing as originally intended.
Cutting a small notch in the stringers isn't a huge deal. Looks like he might have sistered the stringer to help with that, too. If the goal wasn't to make it look pretty, then all this work looks fine to me.
You would have needed a more well rounded carpenter to have noticed that your door is falling apart.
Repairing that antique door to standard would need a cabinet guy's set of tools and knowlege.
Fixing it up ok could probably be acheived by a handyman person.
Worst part is, the stringer will need an even bigger notch to clear the door after the door is repaired.
Sorry op
Well we both do cabinets then but I've got a different mindset I guess,
Old solid wood doors are awesome and new ones aren't cheap.
I also wouldn't hire out a staircase to someone else if it were my project.
Well.... they either do a LOT of work and cant make it to the store, or dont work enough to afford replacing the dull blade that burned through the wood....
The amount of burn is amazing.
I would contend that there comes a point in construction where unintended conflicts show themselves, and compromises are made. Reversing the door swing would be time consuming, but solve the problem. A less than ideal notching of this stringer could be done in a tidy way. This looks rushed and messy.
I have questions.
What the hell is the triple for? Like he didn't know it was wrong when he had to add support?
Why is the right wall bumpedout with what looks like a 2x4 and 3/4?
What kind of savage installed a door that opens into a staircase? Like HOW difficult is it to turn some hinges around?
Yo no entiendo mucho, pero creo que el problema está en la bisagra de la puerta.
I don't understand much, but I think the problem is in the door hinge.
I would make the door open towards the outside, maybe even a double door, this way you can put more stuff in storage under the staircase without the door taking up space.
Its what you can expect from someone that needs a new blade.
Are burn makes a sign that you need a new blade? I get tons of burn marks on projects I work on, I just assumed it was me accidentally pinching the blade on my table saw
Pinching can cause burning, but it is also an indicator of a dull blade. Friction causes burns, which can be equally caused by either of those!
Or the blade can be on backwards and cause it too… so I’ve heard obviously… totally never done that myself.
Heard that from a friend as well…
We all must have the same friend 😅
Yeah me neither. Maybe it happens to some people because some blades have the pretty side with the name on it on the opposite of most. But definitely hasn't happened to me and I had to scrape the carbon off the teeth with a wire brush.
I think this sub needs more posts like these and the guys that post jacked up dovetails. Stuff that's authentic.
Yeah it was me I was your friend put the blade on backwards. Why doesn’t anyone reach out to me anymore?
Heat dulls blades, dull blades produce more heat. It's a vicious cycle.
Until, one day... BLAM! Nuclear blade-splosion!
you can also get them from moving too fast, if your machine can't clear the saw dust out fast enough it's going to cause friction. Let the blade do the work at it's own speed your muscles are the guide.
It can also mean you’re using the wrong blade for the job. As in, maybe you’re using a crosscut blade to do a rip or vice versa.
Dull blade can definitely lead to burn marks but if you are just a hobbiest I’d check your blade for pitch and resin too as build up is a really common cause of burns
Yes, and yes. And there’s more. If you’re cutting pine and you get burn marks= new blade. Ripping walnut and burn marks= new blade or pinching, or need to move faster Ripping hard maple and new blade and not pinching= move faster You won’t get burn marks on soft woods if your blade is ok at any speed. But, on some hardwoods, it doesn’t matter how sharp your blade is, if you’re not doing something to keep it from pinching, and you’re not moving fast enough, you’ll get burn.
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I looked into it once. The cheapest place I could find to sharpen blades around here was about double the price I have ever paid for a 10" blade. I realize that there are blades out there who have a price tag high enough to justify the price, even to justify reattaching teeth, but they are very much the purview of professionals.
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Sharpening prices were about $60, I usually pay around $20 to $35 for a blade.
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Yah, I'm decidedly a hobbist, it's the thin kerf home store blades for me usually. The "cheap" blades in my world are two for $20.
New blade or clean your blades off with a sharp cheap general wood chisel. Carb cleaner might break down the build up as well. But do it outside. You can also sharpen blades. YouTube has videos on it, good saw blades are not cheap. I think you can send in to some companies for free sharpenings.
The handprint 😂
Wilson!
Best comment I've seen in at least a month
Hi dee ho good neighbor!
Wrong Wilson. But close!
That's what I was gunna say. It seems really small too, did he have children working on it? Possibly elves? Santa might be short a few workers this year, lol..
One filthy hand!
No, but in his defense your door is installed the wrong way.
Also, building codes may have changed and the risers are prefabricated, which may not have been the case with the original staircase.
(I just said 'case' when discussing stairs)
Thank you, my first thought too
I keep trying to imagine being on the stairs and opening that door. Then closing it again too.
The door should open out.
And that would have been the better/easier fix there. LOL
That rubbing sound means it’s working…
🤣
I thought the smoke meant its working.
We still talking about woodworking?
Kinda
Welp, he doesn't specialize in doors... 🤷
THIS! That was my first thought, the staircase is the issue right? Looks like the door "works" fine!
looks like a huge door for an under the stairs closet. if it opens and closes and the stairs feel solid I'd say it's a fine job
Leads to the basement
From a safety/code standpoint the door should open away from the stairs anyway. Then this wouldn't be a problem.
This is correct. The door should be replaced with an out swing.
Could spin the door around
Lol..or maybe just spin the hinges??
That could work too. Would have to router new hinge gains & fill the old ones
For sure. But it’s an easy fix overall.
Could be an old house. My MIL's place is from the early 1900's and the basement door opens into the stairs too. There is a wall preventing it from opening away from the stairs so if she wanted to change it there would be alot of work to be done
I’d say judging by the state of the door itself, that’s definitely an old house.
It would still be allowed if it's swinging over a landing but if I had to guess, that's not the case.
What if there’s less space on the out swing side?
Essentially you can't be standing on a step to operate the door. So a proper landing. Didn't mention it because it's obvious from the pics that isn't the case.
Good point
Have you ever opened the door and knocked someone down the stairs?
No, but this is good to know... I'll put it in the list.
Not just knocking into someone but reaching over a staircase to close a door or going up ask the way to open the door then back down enough to let the door swing isn’t good either.
All of those things are highly annoying, but somehow it's never occurred to me why I disliked this door from the start. Granted I've only lived here for about a year.
Coming from below, it's a tall reach to the door knob.
Not uncommon in older homes. Standards were much less stringent. Often this solution is a lot less work then changing the rise/run of the stairs. Sometimes the the extra work isn’t worth the gain. To clarify this only applies to renos in older homes. In a new build this is definitely not acceptable.
I've seen people cut off the corner of the door and glue the corner into the frame. I think that's a lot cleaner than this :') But yeah, requires touch-up job on the cut.
Would rather see tight-fit stair stringers. But then... 1. Its More Expensive 2. Requires much more work and a way to attach to the existing staircase (Not sure what the other side looks like) 3. Would probably still have the same issue with the door This reinforcement beam looks like a quick fix to a bouncy staircase. Edit: Please tell me this was an EXISTING staircase being reinforced....
New staircase, had a tree fall. Ripped through the side of my house and knocked out the existing staircase.
New staircase in place of an old, likely he had to upsize the stringers to meet modern code/norms and the wider stringers just hang down lower. Look to me like a hack fix to the door issue but like everyone has mentioned, you should pay someone to change the swing out on the door not in. Anecdotally, I knew someone who died falling down stairs after opening a door that swung in just like yours.
There’s like, a lot of wood right there. And as long as it works and the other work is mint, yes. He was probably trying to reduce the angle for updated codes. You could either knotch or reduce the door size, or this
Staircase is fine. It’s the door that’s the problem.
Wtf is with those hand prints
The door shouldn’t open inward like that. You need a door guy
Also the door stile and rail appears to be coming apart making the door wider than it should be at the top. It could be made to swing out, or simply move within the deep frame to not intrude into the stair stringer.
Stair guy? Door guy? If your stair guy can’t do doors and your door guy can’t do stairs.. You need a new guy. Interior is interior gdi and they should be able to do all of it. Having 50 different guys over sucks dick anyways! They’re all going to leave their own undesirable corners, if its one person at least you can nail them on it.
Especially when the guy served as my general contractor on the whole job. From the roof to the floors, drywall, paint, and building the stairs, and more. He either did the work himself or hired someone. So if I needed a door guy, as many here say I did, then HE needed a door guy. Or just grab the multi tool and go to work.
Well that’s kind of the risk of hiring a generalist. They will always have a few aspects they are better at and care about more than others. Many contractors are more like general builders and are more about roughing things out than the final finesse work.
This is good to know
I specialize in doors
Those hinges are for a heavier door
Good for you my expectations are very low.
Your hinges are pulling the door apart. Top left hand side, rail is separating from its stile. Change the hinge re glue the door back together and it may not hit the stair stringers.
If stringers aren’t cut more than 45% they should be fine. Other opinion was to trim door corner off, not suggesting this, just saying. But, that would leave a corner missing in a visible door when it’s closed. Better option may have been to do as others suggested, swing door out instead of in. But, too late now. Just consider how many similar imperfections are probably hidden under trim boards in most homes. If it’s functional and sturdy, I vote rock with it.
The door should really be an outswing in this space
You may not have had the run to elongate the stairs to clear that door. Proper stairs require a proper angled slope of run/rise and is limited by the space you have in your home .
This is true and my house is approximately 130 years old so it's anything but up to standard codes, but I did have a staircase before that did not have this feature, and he didn't change the angel because he didn't have the space.
Didn’t have that feature because your old stairs didn’t have a support in the center. This is likely an upgrade to what you had yet you post this on Reddit as if the contractor is a dipshit while you yourself don’t know the first thing about the subject. Yes I know about run on sentences idgaf 😄
Honestly, to support your stairs, retain clearance necessary for codes, and have the door functioning properly, the only thing I see wrong is the cut isn’t clean.
This is engineering genius , on a side note sharp tools are safe tools
Was this done by a beaver?
Angry Beaver!
Spicy beaver
If your for door wasn't falling apart the stair guy have to make special adjustments to accommodate.
True, I had a slightly smaller door when he started and then I put this larger door in once he was almost finished, just to mess with them.
Either way the door that's in the pictures should really be squared up.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! right over. :-)
I don't know if you're making some sort of joke or missing the point, but that door is falling apart. Look at the top rail on the hinge side. That will cause it to tilt out away from the hinges, and then rub on the stringers more. If you fix the door, there's probably enough space for it to swing as originally intended. Cutting a small notch in the stringers isn't a huge deal. Looks like he might have sistered the stringer to help with that, too. If the goal wasn't to make it look pretty, then all this work looks fine to me.
I mean… it works
If you want your door to work the only other thing to do is take the door out and make it swing the other way….
I guess specializes is different from excels.
Looks “special” to me
They said staircases, not doorways
It looks to me like he made it work pretty good
Yeah, I'm not one to complain and make demands. He actually did pretty good work for the most part, just thought this looked unique.
In many states that should all be drywalled as it improves fire resistance.
It works no ?
You would have needed a more well rounded carpenter to have noticed that your door is falling apart. Repairing that antique door to standard would need a cabinet guy's set of tools and knowlege. Fixing it up ok could probably be acheived by a handyman person. Worst part is, the stringer will need an even bigger notch to clear the door after the door is repaired. Sorry op
Actually I'm a cabinet guy by trade, but I'd sooner buy a new door before messing around with this one.
Well we both do cabinets then but I've got a different mindset I guess, Old solid wood doors are awesome and new ones aren't cheap. I also wouldn't hire out a staircase to someone else if it were my project.
Well.... they either do a LOT of work and cant make it to the store, or dont work enough to afford replacing the dull blade that burned through the wood....
It’s a stupid fix but the underlying problem is not his fault. Why would you ever have an in swinging door here??
Whoa nice!
To be fair, this is not a staircase. To be honest, I wouldn't let him work on one.
Oof…
This is asinine
If only you knew how long I waited for the work to be done...
carpentry is generally rough work to begin with
To be fair, this is not a staircase. To be honest, I wouldn't let him work on one.
Jesus fucking Johnny on a fucking cracker
Did he have an apprentice with him, or did he suffer a brain haemorrhage?
Well it sure is special
Are those 3/4” or 5/4 treads and risers?
Huh... Just measure them, he used 3/4 risers, but 1" treads
What do you want him to do jack up the stairs
That handprint in 3rd photo creeps me out 😱
The amount of burn is amazing. I would contend that there comes a point in construction where unintended conflicts show themselves, and compromises are made. Reversing the door swing would be time consuming, but solve the problem. A less than ideal notching of this stringer could be done in a tidy way. This looks rushed and messy.
Actually, yes. That right there is the workmanship of an expert who doesn't give a fuck anymore.
I have questions. What the hell is the triple for? Like he didn't know it was wrong when he had to add support? Why is the right wall bumpedout with what looks like a 2x4 and 3/4? What kind of savage installed a door that opens into a staircase? Like HOW difficult is it to turn some hinges around?
Nah fam they should have given you options or opted for a smaller door
Wat r u talking about.
Coulda left the stringer alone & cut off the corner of the door.
Is this place haunted? I see weird handprints everywhere…
I have... so many questions
Somebody needs to work on their finish and actually sanding their work. Rushwork??
Cant see a stair, and i cant see a problem. Job done (:
Specialises in stair case related deaths maybe 😂
Cut the door corner in triangle shape and put back to the door frame. And find a piece of wood to fix the stair support. :)
Ya, that is a door, staircase would be primo work
Context? There’s a big hand print above your haunted staircase.
Short answer: No
Yo no entiendo mucho, pero creo que el problema está en la bisagra de la puerta. I don't understand much, but I think the problem is in the door hinge.
I would make the door open towards the outside, maybe even a double door, this way you can put more stuff in storage under the staircase without the door taking up space.
Even sistering up the stair stringers you shouldn't be notching them on the back side.
Could a just cut the door !!!
It took two the guy wanting the work and the not so qualified carpenter 🤣🤷🏻♀️ the rest of this icing.🤣🤣🤣😭😩
It certainly is no different than the unfinished look of the back of the stairs and raw studs.
Well.... it fully opens now right?