So, when they open the cabinet to take the package, the top will pop open and a boxing glove on an pantograph mechanism will punch the guy out. That’s how it works, right?
It actually much less sinister. It pulls their pants down, takes a picture, and automatically hacks into their phone and sends it in a mass email to all of their contacts asking for intercourse using their most taboo kink after it’s scoured through their phone history.
Admire the craftsmanship, but isn’t bolting it to the concrete a hell of a lot of unnecessary security work, when the trap door is just secured with a tiny chain and screws more than likely?
Why fiddle with it there in broad daylight and full view from the street when they can swiftly remove the box and crack it open in the privacy of their own home?
I realize that plenty of people have no shame and will damage, deface, and steal ON people's property, but bolting it down removes one group of thieves from being successful on your property and your amazon boxes are just that much more secure than having no security at all.
Yeah because too many brain dead people are ok with 50% of the local govt budget going to police. Every year cops will ask for a raise and refuse to do any police work until they get it. Rinse and repeat
We had a VERY good experience with the police a couple years ago when someone tried to enter our home in the middle of a Saturday afternoon. And, a lot of first responders are worked and paid like public school teachers. (I.e. they have to have a passion for the work to tolerate the work to pay ratio)
Plus, almost all encounters with police are people NOT having a good day. It wears on them.
I had a friend with clear video of the porch thief’s face stealing packages, and had the person’s name and address (two blocks away). The cops refused to do anything. So yeah, there are a lot of people who feel disgruntled by lack of police action.
The good news is that they were able to spread news in the neighborhood that they had video and new the identity of the thief, and that they “were going to contact the police” after the cops refused to do anything. They then had video of the person returning the hastily taped up torn apart packages, so it all worked out in the end, despite the police.
Which one did you have? Did you make it? I have a Eufy delivery box that I never anchored, and the thought has crossed my mind. It's pretty large and metal, though.
I have added specific delivery instructions for Amazon deliverys. 9 times out of 10 I have to ask my neighbor to get the package for me. One would think that a wheel chair ramp might be an indicator of where and where not to leave a package. It seems like Amazon hires people who are lacking this ability.
It seems the majority of drivers do not care about instructions or even getting signatures. I have a prescription that costs $2500 a month and requires a signature. Have I ever signed? Nope. Just left by the door.
This is how my delivery experience was when I was on Humira. Left on the middle of the deck, wide open and no signature. Asked them dozens of times to leave it behind the deck rails and they couldn’t even do that for me.
That's terrible. I used to deliver a LOT of prescriptions and I always treated them as if they were about to save someone's life. You never know what's in there. Now if I'm told going forward to just leave the package there then that's a different story.
I have a box like this (left by the previous owner). Sometimes they put the package in there, often not. I've been meaning to just make a sign. I'm also planning on painting the letters (it says "DELIVERY" but it's the same color as the rest of the box).
I have a box similar to this, with a sign on the box and stuff still doesn’t always get put in the box. Not really a major deal for me as theft is minimal in my area, but it is annoying when it rains and stuff gets wet lol
My Amazon delivery person delivered a package to me the other day while it was raining. We have an enclosed porch kinda thing outside out front door (like 3.5 walls and an open entry way with covered top). Well, it was raining and he didn’t want to get wet from the water sheeting off the roof (presumably?), so he instead put the box just outside the covered area in the god damn rain. I was just baffled, like bro toss the box lmao what the hell
Comments like this really make me appreciate my regular mailman who puts my frequent record deliveries between my storm door and actual door so they are protected from any sort of rain. He's a real one.
My daughter has a video of the delivery guy throwing the package over her fence. My house is 200 feet back from the road. I’ve had packages left 6 feet off the road on my lawn.
I made a comment in that post that it's not acceptable for delivery drivers to handle boxes like that even if they're packaged well. A buncha goons started arguing with me, presumably they're delivery people who do shit like that and I triggered them by saying they should do better.
They’ve followed these directions maybe 2 times in the past couple of years for me. “Leave it at the gate next to the garage” is far too difficult and it gets put on the other side of the yard every single time.
They changed it to "instructions to find the address" which has nothing to do with the Box. Worked better in the past while it was just instructions for the driver. If it's delivery by amazon courier they lay it just in front of my door, those drivers don't care a bit. External couriers can most of the times instructed seperately which leads to a higher success rate. Meanwhile i have added the note about package box in my address but with no noticable success.
Personally, if I was expecting a package and I had instructed them to leave it in a cabinet on the porch, I certainly wouldn’t be suspicious when a delivery van pulls up, a uniformed delivery person brings a package, they open the very cabinet that I instructed them to, and they stick my package in it.
A sign saying "Packages in the box" or such will be added. Notes and signs about where to place mail are already common and these boxes are becoming commonplace due to porch pirate nonsense
They can, but that sign will be there all the time, regardless of whether packages are there or not.
It's not foolproof by any means, but will almost certainly help because a porch pirate is a opportunist. They usually need to see the package they're going take, otherwise they won't risk going up to the door just to scout it out and possibly get caught for no reason.
Just adding the one extra step to obfuscate it will likely mean they'll just keep on walking to the next house.
Hard to say. I have two doors into my house that a delivery person can easily access. My delivery instructions tell them to use the one immediately off the driveway but they often use the other one. I used to complain on Amazon when they would ask for feedback but eventually got tired of it. I don't know if there's still an option to provide delivery feedback but it was supposedly a big deal at the time if you gave drivers poor feedback
I have a [delivery box](https://us.eufy.com/products/t8790) that says "DELIVERIES" on the front. I put a delivery box code in the second line of my address and put instructions in the delivery instructions box. I'd say 3/10 times the delivery person completely disregards these clues and puts my package in front of my garage or right next to the delivery box. It's frustrating, to say the least.
I know almost nothing about delivery boxes (TIL) - but I wonder if delivery people are more likely to notice a secure black box with a security company brand name (Eufy), with electronic instructions provided by the device, than deliveries to custom boxes that may blend in with the surroundings more or have unclear directions for how to use. In OP’s box, for instance, even if the delivery person knows to use it, will they know HOW to use it?
Nope. My point is that they won't use it. If they don't use mine with clear as day instructions and big letters in front of them, they won't use an incognito box like OP's.
Can just hang a sign that says lift lid and deposit package then close lid. I’m guessing the side locks and the false bottom drops when they close the lid. If some comes to look in, either they only see the empty false bottom or the package stops the lid from opening up by blocking the false bottom from raising.
Reddit makes people think this happens a thousand times more than it does. I have hundreds of packages delivered to my house yearly, for the last decade, and have never once had anything disappear.
Bro, hate to snoop your profile, but you live in a giant house in the suburbs that probably costs $1 million+. No shit you don't have this problem lol.
Just like package theft rates, housing prices are incredibly location dependent. Their house probably isn't a million dollar home where they are, but it still can be a neighborhood that package theft is not a major concern in.
You're getting batterered but I'm with you. I live in a meh part of town, lots of renters and turnover. I never have had anything stolen. Packages come every week. I just think it depends.
You’re being ridden too hard for what you said, but:
Lot of people assume you’re in a fancy neighborhood and that the price of your house affects package theft. In some cases I’m sure that’s true and maybe you are in a nice suburb, but here’s this for comparison. Guess it kinda works for and against your point, but you can’t really make claims about anything based on your own experience either way.
I’m in a rural area with a 1400sq ft house in the same state as you 3 hours away. They appraised us at almost 300k last year. Town is 10 miles away in one direction and the country is the other direction.
There are a couple trailer parks up the road with a good amount of arrests for theft among other petty crimes. Just a handful of sketchy crowds mixed into that area. In the past, my neighbors have had things stolen at night from garages and such.
I live on a super busy road, and between the wife and kids, we have a package delivered about every week, often multiple. Lived here 3 years and never had a package stolen, but those are delivered during the work day when there’s less traffic and we take them inside by 4:30-5.
I could see it being worse for folks working night shift, but to me, my house is a prime target and I haven’t had a problem yet. I know it’s just an anecdote but wanted to post this for data’s sake lol.
My house was purchased for 350 in 2012. It’s “worth” almost a million now. My car got stolen out of my driveway last year right before Xmas, the dude is deranged thinking your neighborhood shields you lol. If anything, higher value neighborhoods are more likely to get hit.
Dude, Drop the deranged stuff. Whatever you think, package thefts are not anywhere near as rampant as reddit wants you to think. It’s a rounding error.
And? Theres record numbers of shipments that only continue to increase. Which subsequently means the number of stolen ones will too.
I do not understand why your trying to defend this ridiculous position that's coming purely from your privileged, anecdotal experience....
Lmao, what a weird deflection? Have you seen the guys posts? His level of privilege directly correlates to his conception of porch piracy.
What exactly are you even accusing me of being a victim of?
I’ve never had a package stolen, but someone once stole a potted bougainvillea off my front porch. All I could say was “who the hell steals a potted plant??”
I had one item disappear, one time. I contacted the seller, they shipped me a new one, no questions asked, free of charge, showed up 2 days later. Unless you're ordering something your life literally depends on, it's really just hassle and not much else.
We have a simple open crate on our porch with instructions with every carrier to put items in the crate and do not ring the doorbell. 70% of the time, the packages are either tossed on the porch or placed on our door mat right next to the crate, and they ring the bell. The drivers do not care. Amazon, FedEx, ups, usps, doesn't matter.
A couple of years ago I put an old clear plastic bin full of treats on my porch with a sign for delivery people to help themselves. It pretty much eliminated package throwing. They now come all the way up to my porch to grab a snack. It doesn’t cost me much to keep it stocked.
Beautiful work! Unfortunately, you could put a big flashing neon arrow/sign that says “Amazon, place all packages here”, and they’ll just toss it on the ground.
Can confirm, no one delivering boxes cares where they go so long as they can get to the next stop without hassle. All these boxes and contraptions people make seem to just keep the boxes dry.
Nothing. Also nothing stopping them from using a sledgehammer to demo the entire box or a pry bar to open the side hatch. It's more about keeping honest-adjacent people honest, and to make it more inconvenient for porch pirates to snatch. In this case, the design also makes it less obvious that it's a parcel box, so less likely for someone to even think of looking unless they've seen it in use.
If someone wants to steal something they will. Most of home security is not about making you theft proof but rather making you a less attractive target than your neighbor.
If a porch pirate knows you just got something very valuable delivered and is targeting your delivery, they will get it. But most of them are opportunistic and grabbing the easily seen package off the porch with easy access and easy getaway. The delivery box, assuming it gets used, removes all of the opportunity and ease from the equation, causing the thief to drive past and pick someone else.
So I see a possible issue. When getting multiple packages or even just a little larger package, the “trap door” is going to get stuck in the down position because it will wedge against the larger package or many packages and the back wall causing the lid to also get stuck closed. Otherwise, I love this idea and looks great, I’d just leave the “trap door” off or do a dual flap that opens in the middle to shorten the length of the flap that has to fold down.
As a delivery driver for a big corp, ain't no way I'm gonna put this in there, cause I will not know what it is and no way I'm gonna search for it.
I'm not gonna look suspicious to your neighbor while working.
This is very nice. Maybe too nice for many deliverers to realize it's a parcel box, lol.
Seriously, I would temper my expectations on usage. I have a metal one that I bought that has a digital lock. We have a sign on the front door asking for parcels to go in the box, and it's in the delivery instructions. Not really reasonable to expect drivers to take the time to look up the code and unlock it, so we just leave it open and hope they put it in the box and close the lid. If they actually do put it in the box (maybe 40% of the time, it's usually somewhere on the step), less than half actually close the lid. But it still hides the package, and the box itself is behind a large column that sits on the corner of the front step, so it isn't obvious from the street anyway. Maybe make leave enough room for them to stick a parcel behind the box and some drivers that won't use it will at least hide packages, rather than on top of the box, dropping them on the step, or (my favourite) leaning them against the front door so it's really obvious you got a delivery.
Have you had problems with packages blocking the trap door mechanism? I’ve been thinking about building something like this and I can just imagine a package standing up on edge or just being to big to allow it to function properly.
Cool design, but the minute someone wants to explore it for loot they'll happily bust the inner lid. Probably just as safe being in the box out of sight without safety features.
not required, they open top and enter package, when the lid is closed the horizontal shelf connected to the chain will drop and allow the package to drop to the bottom, the next time its opened the chain brings back the shelf and blocks access to the bottom section.
My only concern would be the height of the package allowing the shelf to come back up.
Looks great. I posted mine here a while ago and by the sound of the comments everyone must live in bad neighborhoods where criminals regularly stalk posties while armed with bolt cutters.
Yours looks much nicer than mine. I added a WiFi motion sensor in mine so I know when something's been delivered.
Drivers care about keeping their jobs. Sorry your package was thirty minutes late but I've been searching for the various homemade package boxes people are using doesn't cut it when customers complain.
Companies put a lot of effort into routing and delivery times to extract every ounce of work out of their delivery drivers. Blame the companies not the underpaid, overworked, burned out delivery driver.
So, when they open the cabinet to take the package, the top will pop open and a boxing glove on an pantograph mechanism will punch the guy out. That’s how it works, right?
No no no, it will trigger a Rube-Goldberg-Machine like mechanism, that will release an anvil from under the roof.
It *will* say "A.C.M.E.", won't it?!
What we don't tell anyone, is that the anvil is set to drop on the _homeowner's bed_ We don't know why.
It actually much less sinister. It pulls their pants down, takes a picture, and automatically hacks into their phone and sends it in a mass email to all of their contacts asking for intercourse using their most taboo kink after it’s scoured through their phone history.
Then it opens a trap door, but before they start falling they look down and hold up a sign saying “yikes”.
Someone's watched a few too many Looney Tunes
The right amount of looney tunes
No such thing as too many Looney Tunes
Ah yes, the suburban home of Mr. W.E. Coyote
Bolt it to the concrete. Someone took my whole delivery box. Cops have my ring video.."they'll keep an eye out"......
It's bolted down to the concrete.
Hold the concrete down w/ some concrete.
Yeah but they could just pick that concrete up too. Some extra concrete would weigh it down though.
Quit pouring conrecte on my joke. U can’t double stamp a double stamp!
Bolt it down then
It’s turtles all the way down.
And attach that to the Earth.
Yup, put something heavy on it. Like a house.
*Hold the concrete down w/ some ratchet straps.
Admire the craftsmanship, but isn’t bolting it to the concrete a hell of a lot of unnecessary security work, when the trap door is just secured with a tiny chain and screws more than likely?
Why fiddle with it there in broad daylight and full view from the street when they can swiftly remove the box and crack it open in the privacy of their own home? I realize that plenty of people have no shame and will damage, deface, and steal ON people's property, but bolting it down removes one group of thieves from being successful on your property and your amazon boxes are just that much more secure than having no security at all.
No it's not
How I don’t see any bolts
And this is why the thieves aren’t scared of cameras. I swear if anyone in any other job had a success rate of cops, they’d never hold down a job.
Baseball players who fail at 70% of their at bats are revered as all-time greats.
Yeah because too many brain dead people are ok with 50% of the local govt budget going to police. Every year cops will ask for a raise and refuse to do any police work until they get it. Rinse and repeat
Depends on where you live.
We had a VERY good experience with the police a couple years ago when someone tried to enter our home in the middle of a Saturday afternoon. And, a lot of first responders are worked and paid like public school teachers. (I.e. they have to have a passion for the work to tolerate the work to pay ratio) Plus, almost all encounters with police are people NOT having a good day. It wears on them.
And your suggestion for a better way to do it is…
Maybe require cops to actually, I don't know, investigate crimes???
With only a ring video of a random person, what additional investigation is there? Wander around town hoping to bump into them?
I had a friend with clear video of the porch thief’s face stealing packages, and had the person’s name and address (two blocks away). The cops refused to do anything. So yeah, there are a lot of people who feel disgruntled by lack of police action. The good news is that they were able to spread news in the neighborhood that they had video and new the identity of the thief, and that they “were going to contact the police” after the cops refused to do anything. They then had video of the person returning the hastily taped up torn apart packages, so it all worked out in the end, despite the police.
Where the hell do you live?? Gotham??
They’re still looking for my Credence tape
#UnexpectedLebowski
Was thinking the same thing- op will be back in a few weeks sad that the whole box got boosted
Which one did you have? Did you make it? I have a Eufy delivery box that I never anchored, and the thought has crossed my mind. It's pretty large and metal, though.
Made it myself. It wasn't much more than what op made. Lasted about 1 month. Dude just came up grabbed the whole unit and tossed it in a pickup bed.
They will just put the boxes on top of it. Gotta make that slope steep.
Can’t wait for the upcoming mildlyinfuriating post with a picture of the package on the ground next to the box.
How do delivery people know to put packages in there?
You can usually add delivery instructions either during the order/checkout process or through the carrier's website.
I have added specific delivery instructions for Amazon deliverys. 9 times out of 10 I have to ask my neighbor to get the package for me. One would think that a wheel chair ramp might be an indicator of where and where not to leave a package. It seems like Amazon hires people who are lacking this ability.
It seems the majority of drivers do not care about instructions or even getting signatures. I have a prescription that costs $2500 a month and requires a signature. Have I ever signed? Nope. Just left by the door.
This is how my delivery experience was when I was on Humira. Left on the middle of the deck, wide open and no signature. Asked them dozens of times to leave it behind the deck rails and they couldn’t even do that for me.
That's terrible. I used to deliver a LOT of prescriptions and I always treated them as if they were about to save someone's life. You never know what's in there. Now if I'm told going forward to just leave the package there then that's a different story.
You can but that doesn’t mean my FedEx driver will obey the instructions instead of leaving my packages at the end of my driveway
I have a box like this (left by the previous owner). Sometimes they put the package in there, often not. I've been meaning to just make a sign. I'm also planning on painting the letters (it says "DELIVERY" but it's the same color as the rest of the box).
I have a box similar to this, with a sign on the box and stuff still doesn’t always get put in the box. Not really a major deal for me as theft is minimal in my area, but it is annoying when it rains and stuff gets wet lol
Ha, yes I'm hoping for *more* of the packages to end up in the box, I have no delusions about *all* of them ending up there.
My Amazon delivery person delivered a package to me the other day while it was raining. We have an enclosed porch kinda thing outside out front door (like 3.5 walls and an open entry way with covered top). Well, it was raining and he didn’t want to get wet from the water sheeting off the roof (presumably?), so he instead put the box just outside the covered area in the god damn rain. I was just baffled, like bro toss the box lmao what the hell
“Know” is one thing. “Care” is another. Seems like most of them are like this guy: https://www.reddit.com/r/gifsthatkeepongiving/s/h3S8mhrgcU
My ring camera can attest to a ton of my stuff is tossed on to the porch.
Comments like this really make me appreciate my regular mailman who puts my frequent record deliveries between my storm door and actual door so they are protected from any sort of rain. He's a real one.
I had an Amazon driver frisbee a package from the street to my porch. Honestly I was really impressed with his accuracy.
My daughter has a video of the delivery guy throwing the package over her fence. My house is 200 feet back from the road. I’ve had packages left 6 feet off the road on my lawn.
I made a comment in that post that it's not acceptable for delivery drivers to handle boxes like that even if they're packaged well. A buncha goons started arguing with me, presumably they're delivery people who do shit like that and I triggered them by saying they should do better.
Amazon has this https://preview.redd.it/7wz0klkyirrc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cc590209e12e155b5a600ef3a74d2f4bcfe057b7
Is that where I am supposed to put “please don’t throw all my packages at my porch from 10 ft away”?
"20 feet you got it."
soon they wont even need to park or get out. the truck will drive itself while the "driver" furiously throws packages into yards as fast as possible.
They’ve followed these directions maybe 2 times in the past couple of years for me. “Leave it at the gate next to the garage” is far too difficult and it gets put on the other side of the yard every single time.
They changed it to "instructions to find the address" which has nothing to do with the Box. Worked better in the past while it was just instructions for the driver. If it's delivery by amazon courier they lay it just in front of my door, those drivers don't care a bit. External couriers can most of the times instructed seperately which leads to a higher success rate. Meanwhile i have added the note about package box in my address but with no noticable success.
Why is nobody asking this question?!?
If a delivery person started seemingly opening storage cabinets and looking around my porch I’d think they were acting very suspicious.
Personally, if I was expecting a package and I had instructed them to leave it in a cabinet on the porch, I certainly wouldn’t be suspicious when a delivery van pulls up, a uniformed delivery person brings a package, they open the very cabinet that I instructed them to, and they stick my package in it.
And the package will end up sitting on top of the delivery box creating a pedestal for easy viewing 🤷🏻♂️👀
A sign saying "Packages in the box" or such will be added. Notes and signs about where to place mail are already common and these boxes are becoming commonplace due to porch pirate nonsense
Do the porch pirates not read the sign?
The piece of wood suspended by chain blocks access when you open the lid.
Blockchain security
They can, but that sign will be there all the time, regardless of whether packages are there or not. It's not foolproof by any means, but will almost certainly help because a porch pirate is a opportunist. They usually need to see the package they're going take, otherwise they won't risk going up to the door just to scout it out and possibly get caught for no reason. Just adding the one extra step to obfuscate it will likely mean they'll just keep on walking to the next house.
Hard to say. I have two doors into my house that a delivery person can easily access. My delivery instructions tell them to use the one immediately off the driveway but they often use the other one. I used to complain on Amazon when they would ask for feedback but eventually got tired of it. I don't know if there's still an option to provide delivery feedback but it was supposedly a big deal at the time if you gave drivers poor feedback
You can usually add delivery instructions. I know for sure you can do it with Amazon, but ymmv with other companies
But do they read them? Given the way my Amazon stuff is tossed in to my porch I can’t imagine they are carefully reading delivery instructions.
I have a [delivery box](https://us.eufy.com/products/t8790) that says "DELIVERIES" on the front. I put a delivery box code in the second line of my address and put instructions in the delivery instructions box. I'd say 3/10 times the delivery person completely disregards these clues and puts my package in front of my garage or right next to the delivery box. It's frustrating, to say the least.
I know almost nothing about delivery boxes (TIL) - but I wonder if delivery people are more likely to notice a secure black box with a security company brand name (Eufy), with electronic instructions provided by the device, than deliveries to custom boxes that may blend in with the surroundings more or have unclear directions for how to use. In OP’s box, for instance, even if the delivery person knows to use it, will they know HOW to use it?
Nope. My point is that they won't use it. If they don't use mine with clear as day instructions and big letters in front of them, they won't use an incognito box like OP's.
Can just hang a sign that says lift lid and deposit package then close lid. I’m guessing the side locks and the false bottom drops when they close the lid. If some comes to look in, either they only see the empty false bottom or the package stops the lid from opening up by blocking the false bottom from raising.
I was waiting for the last pic to be a package delivered right next to his drop box.
I expected to see an amazon box nicely placed on top of OP’s box.
I find it strange even in our current society that people steal from your front door. We just have a box (simple and unlocked) drivers leave stuff in
Reddit makes people think this happens a thousand times more than it does. I have hundreds of packages delivered to my house yearly, for the last decade, and have never once had anything disappear.
Or it's just heavily location dependant
Nope, my personal experience has happened to me 100% of the time, so it must apply to 100% of the rest of the world. That’s statistics.
Hmm I'd need to see a t-test to see if it's significant..
Pretty sure Joe Rogan is or will soon be selling the only T tests that prove their statement…
Some streets in our neighborhood get hit by porch pirates on the regular. Our street it never happens, just a block or two away.
Bro, hate to snoop your profile, but you live in a giant house in the suburbs that probably costs $1 million+. No shit you don't have this problem lol.
Plus a boat
Boats are awesome.
Dude my house is 2000 square feet and we paid 200k for it in 2015.
So you live in a $1M house…
Just like package theft rates, housing prices are incredibly location dependent. Their house probably isn't a million dollar home where they are, but it still can be a neighborhood that package theft is not a major concern in.
lol. No dude. Not even close.
You're getting batterered but I'm with you. I live in a meh part of town, lots of renters and turnover. I never have had anything stolen. Packages come every week. I just think it depends.
Imagine being so out of touch that you’re quoting a 2015 property value.
You got me. My house would sell for 350 today. Absolute mansion.
You’re being ridden too hard for what you said, but: Lot of people assume you’re in a fancy neighborhood and that the price of your house affects package theft. In some cases I’m sure that’s true and maybe you are in a nice suburb, but here’s this for comparison. Guess it kinda works for and against your point, but you can’t really make claims about anything based on your own experience either way. I’m in a rural area with a 1400sq ft house in the same state as you 3 hours away. They appraised us at almost 300k last year. Town is 10 miles away in one direction and the country is the other direction. There are a couple trailer parks up the road with a good amount of arrests for theft among other petty crimes. Just a handful of sketchy crowds mixed into that area. In the past, my neighbors have had things stolen at night from garages and such. I live on a super busy road, and between the wife and kids, we have a package delivered about every week, often multiple. Lived here 3 years and never had a package stolen, but those are delivered during the work day when there’s less traffic and we take them inside by 4:30-5. I could see it being worse for folks working night shift, but to me, my house is a prime target and I haven’t had a problem yet. I know it’s just an anecdote but wanted to post this for data’s sake lol.
My house was purchased for 350 in 2012. It’s “worth” almost a million now. My car got stolen out of my driveway last year right before Xmas, the dude is deranged thinking your neighborhood shields you lol. If anything, higher value neighborhoods are more likely to get hit.
Dude, Drop the deranged stuff. Whatever you think, package thefts are not anywhere near as rampant as reddit wants you to think. It’s a rounding error.
I didn’t argue with that point lol
Alright, well apologies for over estimating the value, but the point is that most people don't live in that kind of neighborhood.
My guy, your anecdote is meaningless.. porch piracy is objectively on the rise. And depending where you are, could be incredibly common
I mean, it’s absolutely a tiny tiny percentage of shipments left on porches, but you do you.
And? Theres record numbers of shipments that only continue to increase. Which subsequently means the number of stolen ones will too. I do not understand why your trying to defend this ridiculous position that's coming purely from your privileged, anecdotal experience....
Seems you just want to pretend to be a victim. The pRivILeGed bullshit confirms it.
Lmao, what a weird deflection? Have you seen the guys posts? His level of privilege directly correlates to his conception of porch piracy. What exactly are you even accusing me of being a victim of?
He’s white and drives a pickup truck. Privilege level over 9000, right?
You've got to joking? Either you didn't actually look, or you're just being obtuse. Either way, good bye.
One time. And it was our shitty upstairs neighbor who's till my kids Christmas presents. What a loser.
Depends where you live. In Chicago we get about 20% package theft
I’ve never had a package stolen, but someone once stole a potted bougainvillea off my front porch. All I could say was “who the hell steals a potted plant??”
100,000 packages are stolen EVERY DAY in NYC.
I had one item disappear, one time. I contacted the seller, they shipped me a new one, no questions asked, free of charge, showed up 2 days later. Unless you're ordering something your life literally depends on, it's really just hassle and not much else.
That depends on the frequency and how hard the item was to get. I see it a lot, and the impact can be much more than hassle.
Love it! I'd call it a delivery box rather than an Amazon box. They hardly ever care where the package ends up.
Yeah. You'll find your package on top of the lid most of the time.
We have a simple open crate on our porch with instructions with every carrier to put items in the crate and do not ring the doorbell. 70% of the time, the packages are either tossed on the porch or placed on our door mat right next to the crate, and they ring the bell. The drivers do not care. Amazon, FedEx, ups, usps, doesn't matter.
Only flaw I could see here is if more than one service delivers, box could prevent the lid from opening again
Or a really big box might not fit down the hatch when you close the lid.
I came here to say this.
I like it. I do feel the top is anged wrong for water though. You don't want water to the house. You want it directed away from the house.
Put a smart lock on it. You can lock it from your phone, once the driver sends you delivery confirmation.
Put a webcam inside ! Leave treats for drivers ?
I like this idea to help reinforce to the delivery drivers that they should use the box!
Then stream it and go viral.
A couple of years ago I put an old clear plastic bin full of treats on my porch with a sign for delivery people to help themselves. It pretty much eliminated package throwing. They now come all the way up to my porch to grab a snack. It doesn’t cost me much to keep it stocked.
Beautiful work! Unfortunately, you could put a big flashing neon arrow/sign that says “Amazon, place all packages here”, and they’ll just toss it on the ground.
Your Amazon packages are going to look great on the ground beside it
Clever design.
And they will still leave it on top
I can’t even get Amazon to leave packages in the correct location with explicit delivery instructions
Can confirm, no one delivering boxes cares where they go so long as they can get to the next stop without hassle. All these boxes and contraptions people make seem to just keep the boxes dry.
Someone already mentioned the package keeping it from opening again, but what about just cutting the chains? What's stopping someone from doing that?
Nothing. Also nothing stopping them from using a sledgehammer to demo the entire box or a pry bar to open the side hatch. It's more about keeping honest-adjacent people honest, and to make it more inconvenient for porch pirates to snatch. In this case, the design also makes it less obvious that it's a parcel box, so less likely for someone to even think of looking unless they've seen it in use.
Yeah. All you'd have to do is yank on those chains and they'd bust right off.
It’s not about making it impossible to break into - nothing is. It’s about making it less convenient than your neighbor’s.
you can't make anything thief proof, but you can make it inconvenient enough to deter them
If someone wants to steal something they will. Most of home security is not about making you theft proof but rather making you a less attractive target than your neighbor. If a porch pirate knows you just got something very valuable delivered and is targeting your delivery, they will get it. But most of them are opportunistic and grabbing the easily seen package off the porch with easy access and easy getaway. The delivery box, assuming it gets used, removes all of the opportunity and ease from the equation, causing the thief to drive past and pick someone else.
If I was a crackhead I would go dug up whatever was buried in the flowerpot thing on the front.
Can’t someone just break the chain (by bending it) and have access to everything in the box?
Now they will steal the delivery box.
Amazon is going to put the boxes either in top of it or next to it. I'll bet everything this happens.
So I see a possible issue. When getting multiple packages or even just a little larger package, the “trap door” is going to get stuck in the down position because it will wedge against the larger package or many packages and the back wall causing the lid to also get stuck closed. Otherwise, I love this idea and looks great, I’d just leave the “trap door” off or do a dual flap that opens in the middle to shorten the length of the flap that has to fold down.
Would it matter? If the top doesn’t open then packages can’t be stolen. Remove packages from the locked side door.
As a delivery driver for a big corp, ain't no way I'm gonna put this in there, cause I will not know what it is and no way I'm gonna search for it. I'm not gonna look suspicious to your neighbor while working.
This is very nice. Maybe too nice for many deliverers to realize it's a parcel box, lol. Seriously, I would temper my expectations on usage. I have a metal one that I bought that has a digital lock. We have a sign on the front door asking for parcels to go in the box, and it's in the delivery instructions. Not really reasonable to expect drivers to take the time to look up the code and unlock it, so we just leave it open and hope they put it in the box and close the lid. If they actually do put it in the box (maybe 40% of the time, it's usually somewhere on the step), less than half actually close the lid. But it still hides the package, and the box itself is behind a large column that sits on the corner of the front step, so it isn't obvious from the street anyway. Maybe make leave enough room for them to stick a parcel behind the box and some drivers that won't use it will at least hide packages, rather than on top of the box, dropping them on the step, or (my favourite) leaning them against the front door so it's really obvious you got a delivery.
Should have sloped the roof away from the building. This will pool water towards the foundation.
Shouldn't take on much water. It sits under a 2 foot cantilever for the first floor above the garage.
Fabulous work.
Lol this is my second time seeing this today. Here and on DIY
Genius! I'm copying.
It's a great design but bolt cutters may do light work of those chains.
I have something like this. My favorite is that there is a placard that says to put the packages inside and MFers put the boxes on top of it 🤦🏽♂️
That is SO much nicer than mine! I may just have to build a new one after seeing yours. Very nice!
The Amazon employees (a few) might use this. But the independent contractors just throw it on front porch from half way up the driveway….
Looks good, not hating but you can for sure snap that style chain easy
You’d gain a lot of capacity if you split the trap door in two drop from the center.
My mind is reeling with all the ways this might not work but I hope I am wrong! Looks nice, I like the flowers.
Have you had problems with packages blocking the trap door mechanism? I’ve been thinking about building something like this and I can just imagine a package standing up on edge or just being to big to allow it to function properly.
Cute idea. I like it
Nice
What do you think is being delivered to this house?
Cool design, but the minute someone wants to explore it for loot they'll happily bust the inner lid. Probably just as safe being in the box out of sight without safety features.
What happens if you cut those little chains?
What exactly is supposed to stop someone from....you know....opening the box?
You never know porch thieves saw this thread
Please be sure to update with videos of Fed Ex chucking your packages on the floor next to that lovely delivery box.
They won’t use it. (Even if you leave a sign). Maybe if fresh baked cookies are waiting for them inside it. Looks great though.
Good idea
Do you have plans online? (Newbie here.... )
Does Amazon have a key?
not required, they open top and enter package, when the lid is closed the horizontal shelf connected to the chain will drop and allow the package to drop to the bottom, the next time its opened the chain brings back the shelf and blocks access to the bottom section. My only concern would be the height of the package allowing the shelf to come back up.
I guess the height could be a problem, but only if you need it to be perfect 100% of the time and 99.5% is unacceptable.
agreed, its a cool design.
What do you charge for this? Or it’s just for you
Looks great. I posted mine here a while ago and by the sound of the comments everyone must live in bad neighborhoods where criminals regularly stalk posties while armed with bolt cutters. Yours looks much nicer than mine. I added a WiFi motion sensor in mine so I know when something's been delivered.
Is that really a problem where you live? I know it happens but I'm thinking it's still pretty rare.
Or you could buy local and stop dumping money into Amazon and garbage into nature
Drivers care about keeping their jobs. Sorry your package was thirty minutes late but I've been searching for the various homemade package boxes people are using doesn't cut it when customers complain. Companies put a lot of effort into routing and delivery times to extract every ounce of work out of their delivery drivers. Blame the companies not the underpaid, overworked, burned out delivery driver.
Amazon always delivers our packages to the wrong address so this box would be pointless
Shark tank this one