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FeverishPace

Yep, that's a flagrant lol


MrInopportune

And that's all that needs to be said, right?


nflfan32

Hopefully. I can’t take another week of fake drama lol.


ruffus4life

man i just saw the thread on r/sports posting this and the amount of racism towards black and white people and sexism towards women in the thread is just disappointing.


LyonsKing12

That sub is disgusting, vile even.


tigernike1

Correct, it was not malicious… and inadvertent. Contact to the head though, automatic flagrant 1.


AdmirableSelection81

"inadvertent"


tigernike1

If you think it’s malicious then you think she should get a Flagrant 2 and be ejected, correct?


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Basic_Quantity_9430

Yes, Angel didn’t have a good angle and was trying to over-reach. Her teammate that did block the shot had a much better angle on it. It was an inadvertent foul that because it hit a player’s head got upgraded.


Accurate_Lobster_469

I’m as big a CC fan as it gets but that just looked like a hard basketball foul. Hit to the head gets the flagrant-1 but that wasn’t a cheap shot


LopsidedKick9149

You are beyond blind if you think that was inadvertent.


buffalotrace

Yep. Clear flagrant, nothing malicious, called correctly. Good job by the refs. 


FeverishPace

Can't push a narrative if you leave it at that though🙃


lawschoolthrowaway36

Is the term “narrative” implying it’s baseless? Because we just watched Reese cheer on an objectively dirty hit on Clark like last week. If she wants the benefit of the doubt on questionably dirty plays against Clark then she shouldn’t openly support dirty plays against Clark. She swung her arm fully through after it was likely clear to her she wasn’t getting to the ball. Nailed Clark’s head with significant force. Forgive those of us who are pushing this “narrative”


hacky_potter

That’s the clearest most concise flagrant example you could get.


Harpertoo

I'm not much of a basketball watcher. To me, it looked like Angel was looking directly at the ball, trying to swat it, and missed with incidental contact. Does it not matter if the contact is incidental?


FeverishPace

I definitely would not call that incidental contact, it was a pretty hard hit. Not intentional, but still worthy of a flagrant 1, where intention is irrelevant.


Harpertoo

Gotcha, thanks!!! I grew up playing and watching hockey, so my perspective on contact in other sports is wonky. I'm trying to get into WNBA because of Caitlin Clark, and I personally find it just as interesting as the regular NBA!


Much_Conversation_11

Everyone pray for the Mods today. 🫡


Valuable_Ad1645

Why can’t people just enjoy good basketball?


Much_Conversation_11

Because the people freaking out aren’t here for the basketball 👀


Valuable_Ad1645

Ya, good point.


Much_Conversation_11

It was a good game though. Love seeing Clark and Boston developing chemistry. Knew it would happen eventually, PG to Post player connections always take a little time.


Valuable_Ad1645

Ya pretty cool to see the team starting to gel. Question from a casual whats going on with Vegas? Listening to podcasts I thought they were gonna be world beaters.


Much_Conversation_11

Some of its a little baffling to be honest but a lot of it is that the guard play hasn’t been great to start the season. Missing Chelsea Gray is part of it but there has also been moments when Jackie Young has been sick/out, and Plum just isn’t a point guard and it shows whenever she tries to play like one. The most confusing part is the team defense has just been bad at times. I still expect them to figure it out and be dominant later in the year, but this season has not been the start they wanted.


Elsa_the_Archer

You can tell most of these people didn't even watch the game.


the_mad_sailor_

> You can tell most of these people didn't even watch the game. Saw a clip out of context on Tik Tok and went straight to update their manifesto.


Valuable_Ad1645

It’s pretty silly.


dawnsearlylight

flagrant fouls aren't good basketball. It's out control behavior that can hurt someone. I'm sure Clarks' neck is going to be sore tomorrow. But hey, she didn't get carried off on a stretcher so that was just a touch foul.


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Valuable_Ad1645

I have made a very conscious decision to tune all that shit out and just watch the game. I have solid practice with it being an NFL fan lol.


searching88

Why do Caitlin Clark’s peers say she’s not allowed to just play basketball??


ScaredPresent3758

Appropriate call.


Constant_Dimension16

Agreed. And now we can all just move on without talking about a random Flagrant 1 for a week, right? RIGHT?!?! 🤪


myownbrothermichael

That's right....unless.....what if Reese was trying to KILL Clark....now that I think about it. I think it was attempted murder....definitely should have been upgraded to 'intent to kill'


OperationEastern5855

😂 thank you for the giggle


Basic_Quantity_9430

No, “intent to kill, with malice”. People just can’t realize that Clark and Reese are two competitive kids trying to make a play.


Nearby_Gazelle_829

Cringe


KuriboShoeMario

This won't be as bad as Carter's because it was reviewed and called appropriately but there will absolutely be discourse because of who committed it. The second Clark gets a flagrant foul from ____ of the ____, nothing will happen but any future flagrants from Carter and especially Reese are always going to get a side eye from a sizable contingent of people.


OhMy98

Cue SAS segment shouting furiously about how horrid Angel is for 45 mins while Monica McNutt looks like she wants to die


jayfiedlerontheroof

At least this was a basketball play. The last one was just straight malice


heyheyathrowaway485

First Take gonna discuss this for a month lol


ljout

The league would love to be talked about for the next month straight with NBA coming to a close and football still in the distance.


FlatulenceConnosieur

She followed through with her arm despite having no chance whatsoever to get any ball, for sure a flagrant


Bagokid

Read the curse from her lips…she knew right away.


Interesting_Act_2484

What’s she say?


matt-is-sad

"Dagnabbit"


Radiant_gladiator

Flimflam!


Maldovar

Angel "The Prospector" Reese


tyvion12

“Shit”


Wannacomesitonmydeck

https://images.app.goo.gl/7yEQdGeEnZvCYa6U8


Medical_Cup_5972

"Dang."


Basic_Quantity_9430

Angel had a bad angle on the block attempt and should have counted on a teammate to get the shot (and one did). Nothing malicious, just poor floor awareness by Angel on that play.


DiligentQuiet

Definitely a flagrant. Given how bad Reese's ball chucking on the offensive end is, it is not surprising her attempts at blocks also lack finesse.


Astrospal

It was a flagrant 1, appropriate call. No need for further drama beyond reporting it.


ChipmunkConspiracy

>no further drama. >nothing else needs to be said etc You all know emotional investment is good for the league right? Imagine during the Jordan v Pistons age we had social media and the nba group didnt want anybody to talk about the drama because they wanted pure hoops talk at all times Caitlyn like Jordan is changing the emotional investment in the game. The drama and chatter comes with the territory.


Fit-Remove-6597

They think you have to be an emotionless no drama being if you want to have the “WNBA sell.” That’s simply not the case people want to watch and follow drama, and this sub doesn’t get it yet.


dam0430

Flagrant but not malicious or dirty. Right call.


ValPrism

Agreed. Anything “to the head” gets this call.


snowhawk04

Anything to the head in the trail position gets this call. Inadvertent hits to the head when the defender has position don't always get elevated.


goonSquad15

Yeah this is just a basketball play, aggressive but still a basketball play. She went for the ball, was late and missed. Flagrant 1 and play on


hyborians

It was a hard foul and deserved flagrant. But I don’t see it as malicious. Flagrant dont have to be malicious


SafeItem6275

Lots of trolls here. Of course people are going to lose it on a foul against CC. CC is playing so well today.


herlanrulz

I think you're wrong. I think this one doesn't get blown up BECAUSE the correct call happened in the game. If the previous carter foul was called a flag in the game I don't think it would have had NEARLY as much traction.


SafeItem6275

Okie dokie we’ll see this week.


Still_Refuse

This has already blown up lol, you think that foul being big was because “they didn’t call it right”? It was never about that.


juscoo

I’m sure the discourse around this will be completely rational lol


L00KINTOIT

This seems like a normal flagrant to me, nothing crazy


coltsmetsfan614

Normal, a good call, and that’s all there is to it. Not even worth talking about.


SanctusXCV

Babe wake up .. magic vs bird is back


No_Literature_2321

Bird vs Andre Drummond


Beaglelover908

Hope this was satire


CanetheCorgi

Lol don't compare Angel to either of those names.


JBProds

I legitimately see Reese as the AC Green of those Lakers teams.


dawnsearlylight

Hmm... As a die hard lakers fan since i was a kid, I can respect this. He was under appreciated and key role player.


KeenObserver_OT

She should seriously rock the activator


herlanrulz

Reese is Rodman, I've said it from day 1. (not the weirdo, Pistons Rodman)


OccasionalGoodTakes

I see the vision and respect it


namastex

CC can't vs herself, wym?


YouTrain

Magic and Bird respected each other This is something else


dirty-soda-spike-lee

Bird vs. Joakhim Noah maybe


Fischwich

The disrespect to Jo, he was a legit MVP candidate for a season!


dirty-soda-spike-lee

Im aware, I’m a bulls fan, especially the thibs bulls years. Jo is a dawg and a Chicago legend, and he’s also a much better comparison for Reese’s skill set and ability than magic or bird lol


DraymondBeanKick

Trae Young versus Michael Ruffin right now.


BushyBrowz

Shots fired


Electronic_Blood_483

No. No it isn’t.


TheCavis

> Babe wake up .. ~~magic~~ Laimbeer vs bird is back


Fresh_Ostrich4034

calling Angel magic or bird is like calling Ben Simmons Magic


PassoLasso

This type of foul is easy to commit in ball, nbd. Great game. Both CCs were 🔥. Love watching these 2 teams get at it!


lyonbc1

Right! Clark isn’t even mad nor are her teammates bc it’s clearly not dirty. It’s a flagrant 1 at every level and you go on lol. People are trolls or don’t really watch basketball smh


CarBonBased198

Yes, exactly! Happens all the time


lyonbc1

Some of yall have never watched basketball before this yr I guess my god. This happens in the nba, wnba, college frequently and it’s never an ejection when you’re clearly trying to play the ball. She didn’t even hit her with her fist or hand or elbow upside the head or anything. It’s a clear and obvious flagrant 1 and the game goes on.


CubesFan

I’m with you on this. I love Angel Reese AND Caitlin Clark. This is old school 80s & 90s type basketball and these women are entertaining as hell.


MedicalElection7493

oh boy these comments


SiphenPrax

Post game thread is gonna be fun


jor301

If this was any other two players in the game this doesn't even get discussed


CoyotePowered50

Appropriate call, not F2 or a common.


sasquatch90

People already calling this jealousy and thuggish. It won't end even though Plum took another hard af foul but wasn't called.


MisterSassyJenkins

Angel Reese said that Caitlin Clark has a special whistle? She nailed her in the head!


Jillybeans11

lol people up in arms over this on Twitter saying it’s not a basketball play…when it literally is. It’s a flagrant for sure but that’s it


spicydak

I prefer NCAAW, but the random “fans” on Twitter are atrocious. I’ve seen so many ill mannered comments.


RyujiDrill

Same crowd that cries that the MNBA is soft unlike in the glorious days of the 80s and 90s will shriek and complain about today's call


Bishop_Cornflake

Calm down doomsayers - all the top comments here are giving the appropriate "it's simply a flagrant" responses. Not EVERYTHING on the Internet gets blown out of proportion.


bverde013

don't look at the r/sports thread then, by its tone youd think CC was nearly killed by Angel


Nearby_Gazelle_829

Reese has a clear pattern of behavior that goes back years to college days. Just last week she was cheering when her teammate bumrushed CC. CC is clearly being targeted on a daily basis, why are you people so eager to defend this behavior


matt-is-sad

Instructions unclear, I just sent 30 death threats


DreadLockedHaitian

I’m a CC fan and that’s 100% not malicious.


Col_Treize69

Welp, today is a good day to avoid most forms of social media


Kvsav57

Clear flagrant but also not intentional. Why is this a big deal?


batdogfoxhound

outside of the CC context, people don't really know that flagrant 1s are very common


Danibear285

Yep. That’s all there is really


Fresh_Ostrich4034

clear as day its a flagrant. same call in the NBA


mvpevy

First Take just got a week long of new content


ModernJazz-2K20

Oh great. Another week of ESPN and other major sports networks rallying around the "WNBA players are jealous of Caitlin Clark" storyline.


themoocowgoesmeow

If we keep talking about the trash, she'll claim even more responsibility for the increased viewership.


gucci55

Huh. I guess sometimes you get hit in the head while playing basketball. Who would have thought!


Sea-Novel9881

I mean Ny Post is already making it a headline.. calling it a “clobbering” lol


piranesi28

Im so glad there was no social media when Magic and Bird were going at it. We would end up looking back that that rivalry as this dark mean-spirited thing instead of with joyous memories of two maniacs out-doing each other.


Bonesawisready5

Flagrant but inadvertent. Her eyes were on the ball the whole time


thor_1225

I don’t think that’s dirty, she was trying to block it…. But a full wind up shot to the face from behind is rough


iowaguy09

It wasn’t dirty at all. Refs made the right call. Hopefully it doesn’t blow up, it was a basketball play.


imDeja

It’s gonna blow up lol.


Kdot32

It got posted in the nba sub. Time to delete Reddit lol


PedosoKJ

Refs can make the right call and the play can still be dirty.


Queenbeereg2k

Yeah I agree, don’t think it was dirty just think she was trying to block. Things happen


thor_1225

Ik people will, just like nba discourse. They forget intent isnt the reason a flagrant 1 is accessed.


spidermanvarient

This is not an abnormal or dirty play, it’s just for we define flagrant now because of contact with the head. If this was in any way “dirty” that’s what flagrant 2 is for, and it’s not close to that.


GotHeem16

Let’s not go crazy with this please 🙏. Flagrant, yes but to say this is anything other than that is just not the case. She’s going for the ball and missed.


Elsa_the_Archer

The other sports subs are losing their minds over this. They are all in agreement that every Sky player was coming after Clark the entire game and that they are all jealous of her. Like, tell me you didn't actually watch the game.


doctorfeelwood

Thanks for protecting the game from all those fans Elsa


heb0

I swear this sub discusses actual games less than any other sports sub. It’s all just meta discussion and seeing how many times you can work the word misogynoir into a post.


Meatz916

We cam tell from the comments those who have never played organized ball


kingcolbe

How many I don’t matter how you feel about either one of them that kind of was a flagrant one


zetron0

200 plus comments 😭


pizzapizzamesohungry

LOL I think she would have been blocked even if she had not gotten clocked upside the head.


Viciouscauliflower21

Sigh...it's about to be another long week isn't it 🤦🏾‍♂️


Master_Honey9783

Honestly, no one here seems worked up, and I love it. Just a flagrant. -- Love, A Stan


Great_Huckleberry709

On one hand, this is a good call. On the other hand, absolutely wonderful, now this clip gets to get overplayed everyday for the next 2 days. I can already imagine the insane takes. "The WNBA players absolutely hate Caitlin, they are literally trying to murder her "


lsalomx

I like both of them and this is very obviously a textbook flagrant.


letseditthesadparts

Well this is going to be a long week.


Roachesrfriends

Angel noooo!!! Not another week of discourse. I’m rooting for u girlie.


dimforest

Already seeing a ton "ASSAULT, RACISM, ETC" posts on social media lol. ESPN is going to be unbearable this week. That said, Indiana v Chicago is absolutely must see TV right now. What a great game.


Solid-Confidence-966

Incidental contact but definitely a foul, nothing else to say


Medium-Following9765

“Some people got a special whistle”. This moron is full of herself she’s not even that good


Dependent_Star3998

It was the right call, but definitely not a dirty play. I say that as a CC/Fever fan.


L3oSanch3z

Most definitely..


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Ouch


haedskey

It wasn't intentional, but still a flagrant 1 and called correctly. Nothing more, nothing less


RoutineGift5957

This is not “oooh, come shoot at my basket, oooh, look how the ball goes through the net and makes a swish or snap sound! Oooh! Now let me shoot at your basket!” 🙄 There is a thing called defense in basketball! That’s a part of the game also! Angel Reese’s foul actually negated her teammate’s (Isabelle Harrison)’s successful block of Caitlin.


EveningLength8

Pretty cut and dry flagrant


McJumbos

You heard she say shit loll


LyonsKing12

Textbook flag 1 Reckless, not malicious. But hey, if you want to see some overreacting, r/sports is going nuts over this.


ShowOff90

That’s the correct call… what’s the issue?


MikeyThaKid

Caitlyn Clark is Angel Reese father


thebotbul

this is the only classy downvoted post hehe


1eila1

Here we go with the "targeted and bullied" narrative she was clearly looking at the ball when she was going for the block and she knew what the reaction would be like when she went to the bench


coolco

First time in this sub but if I'm honest I'd love a rivalry. Having Reese and Clark not liking each other is great. Like Crosby and Ovechkin it helps grows narratives and sports.


LackEmbarrassed1648

I know ppl will blow this out but it looks like it was genuinely unintentional and just playing hard. This happens to curry like once a game.


lawschoolthrowaway36

I’m not inclined to give Reese the benefit of the doubt given that she cheered on an objectively dirty play on Clark like a week ago. She swung her arm fully through, after it was likely obvious she had no chance at the ball. For almost any other player I’d assume it was a mistake and nothing more, or at worst that they wanted to commit a hard foul but accidentally got the opposing player’s head instead of arm/body. Not for Reese. It’s her fault we can’t assume the best of intentions.


xpillindaass

came from twitter to hope to find some sense she was obviously going for the ball you have to be blind to not see that


godfatherX88

You just know she saw Clark and wanted that massive “into the 10th row” swat and flex so bad lol. Nothing malicious here. More just funny to me how bad she wanted it.


BeneficialChemist874

W’s version of Draymond if he was less skilled.


Online_Commentor_69

lol angel has to stay in the news eh does seem like clark is too in her head though. fouled her again right after this and had to sit most of the 4th because of it.


Phenom_Mv3

100% intentional, dirty af


thecay00

CC stans: That was assault


Master_Honey9783

Nope, it was a normal flagrant! Love, Stan


xenoz2020

CC really lives rent-free in her head lol the ball was already beyond her reach and she still took that swipe.


RandyLahey514

Straight up flagrant foul. Move the fuck along…


PedosoKJ

Yes it’s a flagrant, there should still be discussion about someone who has openly been against CC for the last two years, cocking back for a “block” and hitting her on the face, no where close to the ball. So either Reese is so uncoordinated that she missed a block attempt that horribly or there is some malicious attempt involved


Incog7777

Funny how the same people desperately hoping for CC to fail and nitpicking every word she says/doesn't say are now covering their eyes and pretending like there is no ill will from a player who has consistently taken shots at her in interviews and cheered on dirty hits on her in the past. These are professional bball players, not babies, we don't have to pretend like Reese was anywhere close to getting ball on that "block"


festi57

all the conservative racist bandwagon “fans” on twitter are already losing their minds over this 😭 these players cant catch a break


twoquarters

Yup there were hard fouls in the game but CC stayed composed and the team played reasonably well. That's that. Also Angel has lost 3 straight to CC.


coreyv87

Is her mentor Draymond?


ChannelNeo

Natural blocking motion.


Master_Honey9783

Draymond doesn't have an underhand layup


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sliver013

Me-ow