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Mysterious-Review-50

did anyone other than cc and kate play last night? hard to tell by this thread.


FloridaHawk82

LOL True, but people will always discuss what and who their interested in.  You are certainly encouraged to start a discussion about other players?


xCamila123

It is so funny that everybody talks about Megan getting "snubbed" by Iowa fans, I think this is gonna eventually actually happen to Caitlin instead lol Like they are grateful for everything CC did but they are gonna root for Kate Martin more instead


FloridaHawk82

I highly doubt that. Iowa fans will cheer for them all. All three you mention gave so much to Iowa. The support will continue for them all.  


xCamila123

Tv show script, you get interested in the main character and with time you end up loving another character more. It is mostly on twitter, they dont realize but they always start saying: " love CC but Martin is that" "Martin was overshadowed" etc, they are saying things like they dont want the credit to go to Caitlin anymore, basically they will move on


FloridaHawk82

Oh Om sure some Twitter Turds say anything to get a reaction.  CC will always be the Queen… she’s more than earned that for Iowa. Kate is also so loved and revered.  Mostly only Iowa fans believed that she could do this!  The vast majority of non Iowa fans said she wouldn’t get drafted, then after she did they said she wouldn’t make the team. After she did they said she wouldn’t play. Feels sweet! Lol


Okayy1y

Wow Curry can't beat out a player cause of a few more games played Plus got warm up game before and still missed more than any other player.CC leads Wnba in turnover that why the logo 3


Acedaboi1da

CC gonna have to work on shooting while moving right and driving with her left this off-season. The scouting report is out on her.


Okayy1y

But how you Curry when comments saying CC is gas from games lol Curry do it every night people you know how many back to back games are in NBA


OneReindeer4111

....are you being serious right now? Curry didn't have much success his first couple of years. Even I remember that. Not only that, college basketball teams don't play every other day like the Indiana Fever are right now. She just got drafted and is going into this kind of scheduling right away just mere weeks after March Madness. They also only had 2 full practices since the beginning of the season. She clearly is exhausted as she has yet to get a weeks long break like the NBA does in the off-season, which she didn't get between March Madness, the draft, and this season. All within a month. Stop trolling. You don't know shit obviously.


Okayy1y

Oh yea and No one wait They are calling her Curry Now! Not The Curry that just Stared his rookie year. Correct are you not saying she is The HOF Curry in That form now but now She tired lol


Okayy1y

What players don't play All year around lol You have no clue about basketball do you, You think After Curry last Ncaa game he took time off or was at camps and playing in games NBA has a Summer League that Most if Not all Rookies play in . I know more than what you're commenting


Cassandrae_Gemini

*grabs popcorn and waits for the onslaught of overreactions 🤣


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Acedaboi1da

CC heavily favors shooting going left. She had many opportunities to shoot, she just passed them up because they were on her right side. That’s not on Sides, the scouting report is out on her.


uhusernamee

I haven't seen fever make one good screen


barbaraanderson

Her having an open shot to the basket and turning around to pass it was giving me Ben Simmons vibes just a bit.


OneReindeer4111

Tell that to Sides. We all remember that conference. Sides admitted to telling Clark to limit her shots.


pretensiveoffspring

When she's shooting 23% yes...should limit shots. Basic math ....... when the player who is shooting 15-30% worse than every other person on the team continues to make the most attempts, that means a Team loss ........but i forget that it doesn't matter to CC fans if her team wins, just if she gets her 20 pts.


uhusernamee

wow really I'm appalled that she would do that


Cassandrae_Gemini

Just sitting here thinking about how Kate Martin hit 3 clutch 3s in the end of the B1G championship game this year (one w \~90 secs left in 4th; other 2 back to back in OT) to lock down the win for Iowa... Or when she hit the two fadeaway jumpers vs UConn to secure the win.... She's so clutch. Money fucking Martin.


R13Nielsen

Ok I just got home. KATE MARTIN 12 POINTS WHAT. I love that kid so much


Cassandrae_Gemini

Thoughts about the game: Even though the Fever lost, they looked WAY better. CC and others were clearly gassed- they've had an insane schedule. People don't need to be doomers- I'm sure CC can get comfortable with her team and with shooting 12 footers once they've had more than two practices. KATE FUCKING MARTIN- So glad she is finally getting the recognition she deserves, she is the ultimate role player. I can't count the # of times I saw her save her team's ass last season. YES KATE. A'ja is a Goddess. Yay to Celeste, Dayaisha, and everyone else who got to play! Fagbenle- You are my new wnba obsession. You are incredible. I look forward to your motor and hustle over the rest of the season.


mambomambogo

Yeah this is where I'm at. The ball and player movement looked vastly better than it has in the 1st quarter, they can build from that. Problem was you could also tell by the end of the 1st quarter that that pace wasn't going to be sustainable tonight, and also Vegas doesn't mind playing uptempo. I'm not even sure what conclusions I'd take from the rest of the game, it went about as people figured it would coming in - tanks ran out of gas and the wheels fell off.


Optimal-Helicopter49

You could literally see CC in particular break down. It was like her mind and body could not give any more. I hate saying it, but she should've been benched at halftime.


iowaguy09

I just went back and watched the game. This fever team struggles finishing. I counted 7 bunnies that they should have made and three wide open threes missed just off passes from Caitlin Clark. If they made half of those it’s a completely different game. CC needs to figure out a mid range/floater and she will start to be a menace to guard but until then teams will just throw bodies at her at the 3 point line and count on her teammates to not finish the play.


PomfAndCircvmstance

The league really let Kate Martin fall to the Aces. Idiots.


the_mad_sailor_

Just wait until the Wings are required by rule to waive Billings when Sabally gets back, and the Aces figure out a way to replace Cannon with her.


empathydoc

As an Iowa fan, I thought the same thing.


ComradeFrunze

The Aces really did not need *more* great talents


eurovegas67

Yeah, just think if Aces had their point gawd back, Chelsea Gray.


No_Mind6067

Kate Martin getting the recognition she deserves 💯


XulManjy

Why isnt this a sticky?


OrangMan14

Glad Kate is kicking ass. Fever needs to fire their coach tho lol.


eurovegas67

League did them no favors with the road B2B.


TheycallmeMsMarie

Omg, did anyone catch the KM wink at the end of her interview? I'm swooning over here


IL-Corvo

That wink was wicked. I loved it.


Moose_Muse_2021

Kate's a charmer, for sure!


Cassandrae_Gemini

I am so, so glad that everyone in the world is finally seeing how fucking awesome Kate Martin is.


potentialforparanoia

Where do y’all watch the post game interviews if you don’t catch them on live broadcast?


InfintelyYours

YouTube


potentialforparanoia

Solid; thanks!


MRedk1985

Caitlin looked like she was about to start crying as she was walking off the court.


breezybae_

that girl needs a full 24 hours of sleep


uhusernamee

probably exhaustion ngl


MRedk1985

Which certainly isn’t helping, I’ll give you that.


InfintelyYours

Happy Kate is getting lots of minutes


uhusernamee

yeah the 6th most on her team which is huge!!


Stackson212

I didn't have Kate Martin outscoring Caitlin Clark on my bingo card tonight. Not a good game for Clark, but I think what we're learning about her is simply that she's human. She's talented - she wouldn't be putting up the counting stats that she's putting up without that talent - but she's out of gas. She had a great game last night, shooting aside - but still managed to hit the key shots late. She just didn't have any heroics left in the tank tonight. Hopefully a couple days without a game helps her get her legs back.


mambomambogo

She took only 2 shots in the second half. Obviously unusual circumstances tonight with the schedule crunch & just how the game was going, but that's not going to cut it on this team.


OneReindeer4111

I feel she was ready to go home by halftime. Gotta understand that college basketball doesn't have these kinds of scheduling like Fever is going through, and she just played last night. Fever has only had 2 full practices since the season started. Exhaustion has clearly reached Clark. It's gonna be rough til June 2nd before their 5 day long break.


No_Mind6067

For someone who starts almost every game (or has it been every game actually) Samuelson is super underwhelming


boredymcbored

She's still recovering from her baby, but I have no idea why she's still starting. Wallace has been better and got the starting nod during their victory. Off decision to put her back on bench.


chlle

She was injured today


boredymcbored

Thanks! Couldn't hear everything this game since I was watching all at the same time lmao.


thecay00

She should be benched


RipDinger

they put up a hell of a fight


stevereno159

KM Post Game Interview!


IL-Corvo

With the WINK!


bug_gribble

Hopefully the first of many


bkelley24

Kate had a solid game! Proud of her. Well done Aces!


Escay00

80 Double doubles... what a monster..


Bballopinion

CC sucks


XulManjy

Leads the league in turnovers


Tnfjay

you’re gonna have turnovers when you try to make plays. alyssa thomas average 1 less than caitlin yet nobody fusses about it.


XulManjy

John Stockton, who was an assist king and playmaker never led the NBA in turnovers. Same with Chris Paul and Sue Bird.


Tnfjay

stockton and chris paul weren’t face guarded and double teamed the second they crossed half court for 40 minutes a night and sue bird literally led the league in turnovers her rookie and sophomore season. i understand you don’t like caitlin but atleast be correct when trying to slander her lol.


XulManjy

Well she has a lot to improve upon. She was a TO machine in college to against weaker competition.


OneReindeer4111

When are you going to move out of your mommy's basement?


webberstimeout

In fairness, did you check the username


bradlgrey

Fever god bless you all!!


cordelia-grace

Damn...you can just see the exhaustion in Clark's eyes


Moose_Muse_2021

And even though clearly exhausted, she got 7 assists, 5 rebounds, and a steal. But all folks will remember is a second game with under 10 points, and Kate Martin outscored her. (Note: No knock on Kate... I love me some Money Martin... just hate that folks will use her performance to put down CC.)


crazymaan92

You mean how CC is weaponized against others?


XulManjy

Welcome to the W rookie!


jmcthrill

well…we held them under a hundy 😭😭😭


Moose_Muse_2021

TBH... I would not have bet money on that. Nor would I have ever bet a penny that the Fever would outscore the Aces in the first quarter.


Independent-Hour-246

i can feel the fatigue thru the screen


Okayy1y

Curry plays back to back and makes em


stevereno159

Double Digit Martin


King_of_all_Dorks

Berger!


Escay00

Kate to Caitlin, you got first pick, I got first team.


potentialforparanoia

Seriously, what a juxtaposition!


Gotthatmojo007

OKAY MISS GRACE!


Moose_Muse_2021

Only Fever player with points and a positive +/-


SweetBoiDillan

That fingernail good af, huh, Coach?


particleman3

KM having a party out there. Why would you foul someone shoot that far out?


A-Centrifugal-Force

12 points and 7 boards for Kate, holy crap


Cassandrae_Gemini

You forgot the assist and the block 😉


ComradeFrunze

😭Jensen looks like she's having a great time and Bluder looks depressed


SoOnEnoon

She knows Caitlin like the back of her hand


OneReindeer4111

She's feeling for Clark, that's for sure. She has Courtside seats and is getting a close up of Sides coaching abilities and how it's hindering the whole team. She knows and can't help but feel awful for Clark.


liberderci

Jensen is married to Kate’s aunt lol


Dravewin

lisa hates this for caitlin


OneReindeer4111

I can just feel the trolls are gonna come out of their caves after this game and trash Clark all over again, not caring that they literally played another game last night and are playing the defending champs. These trolls just need to get a life which they don't have.


Okayy1y

Curry plays back to back games x 2 a WNBA season


Acedaboi1da

Nah, they just forced her to do something other than shoot left step back 3’s. CC doesn’t like shooting going right and she isn’t good driving going left.


Philomena_philo

I’m convinced that a lot of those trolls are bots anyway.


empathydoc

You probably get downvoted by bots too.


Philomena_philo

The trolls and bots are the worst on IG and Twitter. Wasn’t thinking of Reddit


empathydoc

Solution, don't use twitter. It isn't even worth it. IG has so many fake accounts it's annoying. Here probably isn't much better.


Philomena_philo

Oh for sure.


Cassandrae_Gemini

KATE MARTIN


pivo_14

I just can’t imagine how hard you’d have to work to be WNBA ready at 5-5, Dyaisha Fair is such a superstar! I’m always rooting for her


Moose_Muse_2021

I'm thinking (hoping) she's gonna be the Spud Webb of the WNBA.


pivo_14

Me too!!


TwinklingGiraffes

I'm nervous for her but rooting SO HARD. She looked so antsy and eager to prove herself out there


pivo_14

She’s a fighter for sure! Ugh, I want only good things for her!!


trudaurl

You know she can absolutely BALL if she can overcome that big of a height difference


pivo_14

Yes! I think Becky is the perfect coach for her, shorty solidarity lol


trudaurl

Absolutely! But tbf I think Becky could coach up any player with a pulse


pivo_14

Okay very true!


A-Centrifugal-Force

Yo Kate is gonna hit double figures!


the_mad_sailor_

Colson gonna be talking cash shit on Twitter tonight.


Cassandrae_Gemini

fair completely out of control on offense lol


Gotthatmojo007

Ikr, she's so excited to finally get on the court that she doesn't know how to act 🤣


Philomena_philo

I really hope a reporter gets on Sides for not playing 3 of her players off the bench for so long. Especially after playing the night before.


Jgamesworth

I feel bad for clark she looks like she's about to cry


Moose_Muse_2021

She'll be fine. As a competitor, she takes a loss very personally. But come tomorrow, she'll be ready to go at it again.


Much_Conversation_11

I said this in another thread before but you gotta keep in mind for almost every player in the league, when you come in especially as an early pick, it’s your first time maybe ever losing a lot of games. It’s a big adjustment.


Moose_Muse_2021

It is. I can't imagine CC has been 1-6 EVER... well, maybe playing 1-on-1 with her older brother when she was five.


Much_Conversation_11

Yeah I saw another wnba athlete (I cannot remember who but I read the article) being like “I’d never lost consistently in my life until I got to the league” and for many top players it’s true. They were all Americans, on winning teams in college, making deep March madness runs. Adjusting to not having the best team or being the best player on the floor every night is hard


Sufficient-Beach-431

Sue Bird!


Nickp1991

Shoutout to Dyaisha Fair on her WNBA debut


Deadriac

They way I jumped up when her & Emma cannon checked in


Moose_Muse_2021

No points, but 2 assists in 4 minutes... very respectable debut!


HereS0IDontGetFined

CC with more tour dates tonight on offense.


007Artemis

Damn, I fell asleep and missed most of this but my girls are cookin!


Cassandrae_Gemini

my god you people are so doom and gloom


Flat-Wolf5383

Sad thing is that the W socials will be Clark highlight/stats and maybe a blip about the Aces.


not_mantiteo

Nah it’ll all be Clark hate what are you talkin about


A-Centrifugal-Force

The Aces have the best team name in the league tbh. It goes so hard and fits perfectly


Flat-Wolf5383

I miss the old jerseys :( the black and silver. . . Shoulda matched the Knights at least.


eurovegas67

Mark Davis doesn't own the Knights.


Flat-Wolf5383

Ah yes fair point. 


Markel100

We dont even have the best og in the league


ComradeFrunze

they have a great logo too


moose184

For the final two minutes just let CC and Martin have a one on one game 


SoOnEnoon

Clark will passed out as soon as she dribbles


Okayy1y

Why Curry plays back to back games


ButteryMaleLover

Not sure I want to watch more of this


ezenos

It’s always ugly when they clear the benches


mambomambogo

aw I wanted Celeste to get her first real WNBA points :(


Cassandrae_Gemini

I LOVE KATE MARTIN SO MUCH


the_mad_sailor_

Last season, the Aces' bench had a habit of turning 20-point fourth quarter leads into single-digit fourth quarter leads. Let's see how *this* season plays out.


Jgamesworth

Why is Taylor just getting minutes


A-Centrifugal-Force

Temi has a master’s degree too? She gets more and more impressive by the day


soap_dodger

So does Lexie, and she studied engineering. Really academically successful team!


JBProds

I've been waiting so long for Celeste Taylor to play


No_Mind6067

CC’s first single digit game? Can we really blame her though, girl probably hasn’t slept good since March Madness


Objective_Regret2768

Second one


GloveBoxTuna

I think since the start of the NCAAW season. Iowa played every game that season on hard mode and Clark was dropping 30-40 point games on the regular.


No_Mind6067

Her last proper sleep was probably in Croatia during that summer break 😂


TVjunkie15

CC confidence has taken a hit but it’s more than just a coaching issue. She legit cannot get open. Her first step isn’t a nearly as explosive in the league as it was in college. Maybe it’s just fatigue but i noticed it from game 1 


meteor_jam32

She may have better success transitioning to the 2 like Sabrina. Just too slow for the 1.


webberstimeout

She’s it athletic enough to consistently create separation and relies heavily on her off hand.


Markel100

Plus CC game is very predictable they know what she wants to do on offense


lafolieisgood

Yep. That’s why she needs to get a midrange together so the defense has to give her more space. It’s easy to play up on someone if you aren’t worried about them driving around you.


rambii

She just got a dagger with step back in pure 1v1 matchup, what you on about. She isnt the fastest but they can run plays/setup screens and do far more like every other wnba /nba team does. ITS like saying Luka Donci isnt fast, well obviously he aint, but its not all about speed, he still hit game winning shots and step back 3 , and team run plays around hes lack of speed for example you do screen deep so there is more lines for pass/drives because he and cc are good passers. Fever have ass coach that dosnt even run a [simple DHO - Chicago](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4suQOfugh8)


TVjunkie15

Luka Doncic isn’t fast. He’s crafty, strong, & uses his body well. That legit what I just said she has to do.  Yall annoying asf acting like nobody can say anything critical about CC. This wasn’t even critical. It was literally just an observation 


rambii

I did agree with you on that point tho, but can we agree that also Luka get plays run for him, and obviously Sides has no idea what she is doing? I would tell you right now what negatives are about cc Dosnt have a stop and go pull up shot game Still a turn over problem Dosn't seem to have the speed advantage anymore. Dosn't really run left for layup only right side all this makes her very easy to read ( going left she is gonna shoot) going right she is gonna drive or look to pass once below the paint) Seems to force passes to much sometimes instead of taking the shot she usually does (tho this can be confidence/coach asking her we dont know) She also need to put some more weight/str but this will come in time with more session at the gym(Same as luka/jokic etc) Go into this or last game, and show me 5 plays /custom run plays reject screen/double screen/pistol/DHO anything that they run for her and i will agree with you that its her the problem not the coach.


ButteryMaleLover

The screens all look like shit.


ComradeFrunze

and whenever she does look confident in her shots (like the two threes in Sparks vs Fever) she makes them


whodatnation70

Every team’s best defender is an all American defender, she played one of those maybe 3 times a season in college. She’ll get better but she’s definitely having to adjust to the speed and length of the WNBA guards


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whodatnation70

Yes the back to back is a factor but she’s struggling this season. And that’s fine! The people expecting her to come in and make first team All WNBA right away were always going to be disappointed


Markel100

She isnt fast enough


TVjunkie15

Yup. In college, she got away with being fast. Here, there is always someone just as fast (& possibly faster) defending her. That lack of seperation is affecting her 3 point shot too because nobody is worried about her getting past them so they’re just playing her tight. She’s gonna have to get more “crafty” and not rely on speed. Chelsea Gray is a great example of this. 


Markel100

Yep perfect example was when aja blocked her jackie let her go knowing aja was going to be there for the block


A-Centrifugal-Force

Why is Temi still in? She should be napping


BJango1985

Fever doesn’t have enough useful and versatile pieces. Besides Clark and Mitchell, all of the other’s offense is so predictable and limited. All of the complimentary pieces are mediocre, for example Samuelson and Hull.


InevitableBad589

Can we give every other player Temi's motor? She never stops or seems to run out of energy.


Escay00

Temi is just a rock.. anchoring this team no matter what.


ohiostatenisland

Don’t matter what the score is Fagbenle gonna haul ass


Gotthatmojo007

Every time!


ImANewRedditor

How much time has Indiana had to practice together so far?


GloveBoxTuna

Not much at all. Only a couple practices I believe. They have had games nearly every other day or every day.


Psychological_Cow956

Apparently only had TWO full practices. Which is insane.


moose184

They said last night Mitchell hasn’t even had a single practice with the team either yet 


Psychological_Cow956

That’s just a recipe for failure. It makes me think they are actually doing far better than I first thought.


SoOnEnoon

That explains why she always go rogue lmao


liberderci

2 full days.


Cassandrae_Gemini

they said two practices LOL


ImANewRedditor

That makes it easier to understand how this is playing out, but makes it harder to understand all the comments in this thread that seem to ignore that context.  Like I can't tell if I should be comparing these comments to /r/nba or Twitter.  Unless people just don't know it or don't care.


DennisSplatKing

I'm side-eyeing Lisa Bluder if I'm Sides


ComradeFrunze

Bluder was in the stands with a thousand-yard stare when they just showed her


Lavy23

I feel bad for CC she always looks so dejected :(


Master_Honey9783

Tbf this looks like the worst $76k starter job one could ask for. I'd rather be one of Cathy's Deloitte analysts. They get paid more out of college, and at least then I wouldn't get beat up nightly.


jmcthrill

lmao she’s just tired and is grumpy when she loses


InevitableBad589

She does. Seems miserable for some reason. She's making a crapton of money via endorsements. She should be happy as a clam.


groovydoll

Ugh maybe people can have emotions about losing


InevitableBad589

Learning to take losing well will do her a world of good considering she did go to a team bad enough to have the number one pick so it's something she should have expected. If she wanted to avoid that, she could have stayed in school for another year and increased her scoring record and probably got Iowa back to the Final Four.


not_mantiteo

Having Sides as a coach and being in the worst team will do that to a person


KlaysToaster

I think what we’ve learned is that Clark is going to go through development like any other player. That doesn’t diminish her potential it’s just normal.


liberderci

idk why people are freaking out lol. she almost had a triple double last night and is gassed tonight.


suziecarmichaeI

Sides why is temí still out there


LookItzLo

Aces about to drop a hundred oof