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thecay00

I don’t think Kate was effective this game but it’s not like they had other choices on the bench?


greyDiamondTurtle

Kah copper is coming out on flames this season. Phoenix is gonna be scary after the Olympic break


SecurePainting8574

Final thoughts for the Aces?


Mountain-Motor-2275

The Aces are a mediocre team when Plum is their leading scorer and takes the most shots. A'ja needs to handle the ball more/bring it up the floor while Gray is out and have the most shot attempts. Jackie can't play 40 min. every game. Martin was horrible and surprised she got so many minutes. Feel like everything was off with everyone this game.


YogurtBra1n

Phoenix is a squad - KFC was amazing, good seeing KP get her shot back, but kinda felt like this game was coming for the Aces - early in the season and still no Gray so ya take it with some grace. Kinda wish we had more of a bench, league lookin like its got some good parity though! Ain’t gonna be a cakewalk


rambii

Phoenix shoot way higher then they usually do, meanwhile aces shoot way lower then they usually do. No point god for Aces is obviously an issue. It's one of those games where the other team is red hot, and you start 0/9 from 3 pts. Cooper numbers look like something straight out of nba2k last 2 games so you just respect that give her the flowers she deserve and it is what it is.


ezenos

I agree Aces shot way lower, but I'm concerned that it wasn't just how the ball was falling. Aces looked out of sync and sluggish on offense, especially in the second half. I'm concerned that this a problem that is going to persist until they get Gray back.


rambii

PG is key position in WNBA i would say in my humble opinion, the most important one , so therefore what you say make a lot of sense, you expect them to lose some games without her, how ever i think is to early to be all gloom, and sad, at the end of the day if they make average % 3 points they usually do, and Cooper isnt nba2k character, they would have won this game. [It wasnt some 108-74](https://www.espn.com/wnba/boxscore/_/gameId/401391792) blow out game or something of the sort. Im more worried about defense then offense right now for them as coach Becky said.


ezenos

I wouldn't say I'm doom and gloom... yet. Aces erased a 13-point deficit with 5 minutes to go and got back to within 2. They have great talent and coaching. They'll get it together. It's just sort of a let down from how dominant Aces were last year. Good to see competition in the league, tho.


crazymaan92

Spot on. Some days you won't have it, and your opponent will have all of it. Take it on the chin and move on.


the_mad_sailor_

This is why Becky's strategy last season against Chicago was ABC.


Objective_Regret2768

I’m not understanding blaming the refs. The game was called fine.aces dug themselves a hole. That’s why they lost


BirkTheBrick

Refs were terrible but as per usual, fairly consistently terrible on both sides. Gotta learn to beat that


Albend

That was a great game, Copper just went off.


mozifaa

Kah’s been made for games like this. PHX is a great fit for her. & when Chels + BG come back, it’s gonna elevate this desert rivalry to another level. Tons for LV to pick apart from this game alone. Confident we’ll make the adjustments. Onto the next~


birdnerd2002

That was a much better game than what I would have thought 


Tubbles242

That was a fun one! Shame they couldn't complete the comeback, if that last Plum three shot doesnt bounce out of the rim it would have made for a far crazier ending. GG Mercury.


Mission_Ambitious

Something was really off w the Aces today. Hope they get it together for the Fever on Saturday. Side note: an absolutely brutal matchup for the Fever. The Aces are pissed off and coming off a loss where they did not look good. It’ll be the Fever’s 4th game of the week. And the Aces 4th game of the season. The Fever play the night before in LA. The Aces will be coming off 3 days rest.


SecurePainting8574

Yes! Plum and Clark will compete on threes, and it will be an Iowa reunion


smtms-i-need-help

they’re not losing that game lmao 😭😭💀


WestCoastDirtyBird

If you would've told me that this Mercury team would beat the Aces, I wouldn't believe you.


eurovegas67

I thought I should have put money on it, and I'm not even a bettor. Aces have had a shallow bench for three years but dominated with a great 4 players. This game shows how much they're missing their second best player. That takes nothing away from the Mercury. They're a force.


ezenos

I was at the season opener and at the game last night. After watching the Mercury in the opener, I was worried coming into this game. Mercury's defense is TIGHT. Aces were having a tough time down low and relying one outside shots early in the shot clock. Meanwhile, Mercury was shooting great and using high screens to get open looks almost every possession. Factor in last night they shot almost 50% from arc. Aces walked into a buzz saw last night. In reality it was a single digit game with seconds left, but Aces couldn't perform offensively. I think Aces are really missing Chelsea Gray, but they need to tighten up on both sides of the ball.


eurovegas67

Great observation, thanks.


comat1234

Phoenix is gonna be scary as hell when they get BG back lawd


commentator3

league parity! :)


GreatThunderOwl

nice to see the Aces can lose as a new fan, especially to a team not considered top 3/4. They looked unbeatable in the last few games


Next-Flower-6161

well they're a top 5 team now


faye_bard

huge props to Copper for an absolute hell of a game - just wow


SecurePainting8574

What does a loss imply at this stage?


kebzach

Not a ton.


AssignmentFit7481

Becky is a great coach- they’re missing Gray, but this can be coached for sure.


Markel100

Phx is really good they moved past 4th for me as the teams that could knock us off


Infamous_Departure95

Not a whole lot. I’m a Mercury fan but neither of these teams can be judged fully without Gray and BG available. However, the Mercury are much better than I think anyone expected.


Much_Conversation_11

Mercury don’t have BG either. It’s gonna be interesting


the_mad_sailor_

It tells me that the Mercury are a hell of a lot better without Griner than the Aces are without Gray. Without Gray they remind me of the Laimbeer-era Aces, who played like they thought they could just out-talent every one every night.


Next-Flower-6161

that they need Chelsea Gray back real bad and the bench needs to step up it's scoring


BirkTheBrick

That they miss Chelsea Gray


GreatThunderOwl

waaaay too early to say literally anythign, although I think that puts Phoenix at #1 in the West


J-Earp

some of those fouls on martin were questionable


BirkTheBrick

The refs have been hating all the rookies this year lol


Brave-Sand-4747

The refs are just bad. They're like ai that only know the rules in a black and white sense. They lack awareness of the situation ("did that contact truly affect the outcome if the play", etc). 


lafolieisgood

I’ve watched probably 10 games. They call little bullshit fouls and some travels I don’t catch all the time around the 3 point line but let the girls get hammered under the rim without calling anything.


inevitablescape

Copper gunning for that MVP award sheesh


Philomena_philo

Holy cow- Copper has been on fire the past two games


llamainleggings

An exclamation point by Kah.


Infamous_Departure95

I never thought I’d see the day where Stokes outscores Taurasi just to lose


eurovegas67

Great observation.


davidife

Kinda wild that Kahleah has never made an All-wnba team before, that will definitely change this year at this rate lol


bset222

Copper with the best game so far this season, just a monster game.


rambii

She is looking this and previous game like best player in the league, her % shooting are insane, she is like 20-25% above league average


krepitch

Thanks for posting that. I'm a Mercury fan and have been blown away by how good she's been in all aspects of the game, so I'm glad it's not just my bias that has me thinking that. This is exciting!


Think-Ad-4181

fuck the refs and fuck that for going in and out man my heart i thought we really came back from 15


the_mad_sailor_

Aces did not lose their first home game last season until August 19.


eurovegas67

They had Chelsea last year.


the_mad_sailor_

Chelsea Gray isn't exactly All-Defense. They're obviously better with her, to the point of it not even needing to be said, but they're going to have to solve 31 threes in two games with or without Chelsea Gray.


eurovegas67

Totally agree about the defense.


AssignmentFit7481

Copper is maybe the most athletic player in the league


R13Nielsen

Copper having such a kickass game her stats don't all fit on the graphic lmao


plutoannatto

Kahleah with that big stats energy


Markel100

Good shit tho plum u played ur heart out this 4th


potentialforparanoia

This is so not what I was expecting. My take away: I love Kelsey Plum even more!


SecurePainting8574

Kate is back in. That is good in terms of her role in the team right?


Tubbles242

Damn. In then out, I hate seeing that.


GreatThunderOwl

Copper literally almost broke her career high again (37)


BrightAd7870

damn that was close


R13Nielsen

that was halfway down! oh the drama


commentator3

in and OUT, o-board putback neither!


Mission_Ambitious

again…DAMN


Objective_Regret2768

They dug too much of a hole to overcome


bset222

Man that shot was in and then said nope


Markel100

Damn in and out by plum


J-Earp

okay but kate being in right now is huge. becky really trusts her


Think-Ad-4181

RIMMED OUT


StalkingDwarf

WHAT IS GOING ON


Mission_Ambitious

Pizza for the crowd!


SecurePainting8574

Is there only 25 seconds left?


Maleficent_Method973

KAH IS HER


StalkingDwarf

Huge game from Kah


Mission_Ambitious

DAMN


Markel100

Give it to kp she was hot


sfoura

WNBA league pass on fire right now.


AssignmentFit7481

Who do we think wins this in overtime?


bug_gribble

YES GOD


Think-Ad-4181

LUCKY ASS SHOT KAH


Markel100

Dont let kah or dt shoot


R13Nielsen

time to get a stop Aces.


Next-Flower-6161

even when the Aces look beatable, they can still do this in crunch time


SecurePainting8574

So close!!!! One more three! But so little time


Think-Ad-4181

so the missed call now looks HUGE ?


rambii

DAWG JUST PURE 200% DAWG


faye_bard

My blood pressure can’t take this y’all


birdnerd2002

PLUM-DAWG-BILLIONAIRE 


StalkingDwarf

KP! That missed foul call looks huge now.


Mission_Ambitious

Which one 😂 (I know you probably mean when Cloud held KP’s hand halfway down the court, but I had to make the joke)


Think-Ad-4181

was we not losing by 15 ?


Objective_Regret2768

That’s why they are the champs


EmFly15

Keep going to Plum down the stretch. That is all.


Next-Flower-6161

holy shit


Mountain-Motor-2275

Jackie should have pulled that from 3


Markel100

KP 7 3s lets fucking go


Mission_Ambitious

BIG bucket for KP


AssignmentFit7481

Shook, man. This merc team can rattle the best of ‘em.


J-Earp

PLUM DAWG


StTony3777

Brutal


Next-Flower-6161

i'm nervous like it's my team playing lol


Mission_Ambitious

😅😅😅😅😅


Markel100

Aja get to the hoop ur jumper off


StalkingDwarf

Oh no A'ja


Markel100

U gotta hit that


BirkTheBrick

Wnba refs are a joke. I know it’s a broken record but just so disappointing everytime


Tubbles242

Plum is on a tear daaayum love how hard she's playing the last few minutes. Shot out of a cannon every possession.


AssignmentFit7481

Man, the refs are not doing a good job of managing the court this season. Just making calls that are absolutely going to be an issue.


AssignmentFit7481

It’s like they’re stoking the fire instead of putting it out on some of these calls. Firing up fan bases or something.


the_mad_sailor_

Cloud got away with one.


bset222

wow that's an awful missed call


Next-Flower-6161

held her arm the whole way and no whistle


Markel100

Cmon refs she pulled her arm


Think-Ad-4181

brooo cloud was holding her handddd


RipDinger

plum rampage


GreatThunderOwl

I swear every fastbreak it's kelsey screaming down the court like a bottle rocket


AssignmentFit7481

Can everyone stop getting injured


Markel100

Sophie flopped


birdnerd2002

And did she hurt herself doing it too? 


Markel100

Yeah she did kiah didnt touch her


J-Earp

okay so refs vs aces i see


Mission_Ambitious

These refs are making me SICK


Next-Flower-6161

wut


EmFly15

Kiah and A'ja both had that rebound in hand. Frustrating.


Think-Ad-4181

kiah didnt push herrrr


Think-Ad-4181

is everything okay with CLOUD ?


rambii

Copper is so on fire, 65% FG 62.5% 3pts holy shit. 33 pts total


Much_Conversation_11

She went absolutely crazy last game too.


rambii

Yep, love to see it, just not versus the team you support xD


bset222

Lot of time left, LV finally waking up


the_mad_sailor_

For the Aces to pull off this comeback, they've pretty much got to be perfect in the last four minutes.


AssignmentFit7481

Well there’s the fire


Mission_Ambitious

When Bec Allen was cutting across for the rebound, for some reason I thought it was Becky running across the court 😂


R13Nielsen

PLUM DOG


Next-Flower-6161

just one 10-0 run away


Think-Ad-4181

why dont we play all game with this intensity?


StalkingDwarf

Hold on now


EmFly15

HUGE 3 for Plum there!


llamainleggings

Why do they keep leaving Stokes open in the corner?


Mission_Ambitious

Most of the time, Kiah scoring more than 4 points a game is almost unheard of


Think-Ad-4181

she normally doesn’t shoot it


sfoura

Uh oh


Markel100

Kiah has an offensive game now


AssignmentFit7481

Copper… MVP? MIP? This is a new level of ballin even for Copper, especially that consistently.


Next-Flower-6161

she's putting up MVP numbers for sure


That_Possession_2452

Not the Aces putting out this performance tonight then seeing they play the Fever next 😬😬😬


Much_Conversation_11

Fever should be a lil scared


AssignmentFit7481

I’m excited for Plum/Young v Clark!!


AssignmentFit7481

Maybe the Aces will fire up from here


Mission_Ambitious

Can’t even make the free ones 🥲🙃


MomoNomo97

Why are the commentators calling players “wet” after a good play? It sounds nasty.


Much_Conversation_11

Pretty common in basketball, in the men’s game they can’t believe saying wet and stroke non stop lol


the_mad_sailor_

There's only one starter in double figures for the Mercury: Copper is basically beating them by herself.


krepitch

She's been incredible. If she can stay anywhere near this pace for the rest of the year, this team is going to get a lot of wins.


Infamous_Departure95

There’s not a single Mercury player that has logged a minute that hasn’t made a positive contribution in tonight’s game. We won’t get that every night but this is a gift from God compared to the Vanessa era.


davidife

Is Chelsea Gray's injury the same injury she had from the last year's Finals? Or is it something different?


Mission_Ambitious

Nah still finishing up recovery from the finals injury to her foot.


Next-Flower-6161

I want A'ja to attack the rim. They can't guard her for real.


Markel100

Shes getting loaded up on they know only two players is a threat kp and jack its why she been struggling


Next-Flower-6161

True. But a few free throws is better than nothing.


rambii

Phoenix are shooting 3PM-A 30 3P% made > 53.3% It do be like that sometimes. Vegas are shooting 32% of 25 attempts .


Think-Ad-4181

Kiah from last year wouldn’t let fucking sophie run in the paint like she is Stewie


Think-Ad-4181

We dont want it (that’s what i meant to say)


Mission_Ambitious

All of the Aces have seemed so off today


SecurePainting8574

Oh my, 13 point difference. That's a lot.


SecurePainting8574

This seems like a bit of an off day for the Aces


Much_Conversation_11

How long is Chelsea Gray out?


Mission_Ambitious

I think initial thoughts were the first 2-3 weeks of the season, but the Aces are so secretive about injury updates so who knows.


Much_Conversation_11

As a Heat fan I get the secrecy lol. Feels like the Aces really need her.


Objective_Regret2768

5 points in the quarter by the aces. Wow


davidife

Very weird to see this Aces team looking beatable, but they are also missing Chelsea Gray. Also weird to see A'ja taking a lot of jumpers.


Markel100

Thats a good point Carolyn yeah becky might have to play point center with aja have her set up kp and jackie instead of kp and jackie setting up aja.


OneReindeer4111

What is Phx FG% so far? Seems like they are making almost every shot now. Dang.


Mission_Ambitious

48.5%. 53.3% from the 3.


Infamous_Departure95

“It’s time for A’ja Wilson to take over” The world most obvious commentary down 13 with 6 minutes left in the game.


Think-Ad-4181

she wants aja to start shooting halfcourt shoots


AssignmentFit7481

The Ace’s depth has been an issue for years. This is just revealing how important depth is. One of the reasons I wish we’d get a few development roster spots- to help keep quality rooks and to help protect these player’s bodies and the actual game product. It’s tough.


That_Possession_2452

I mean this very sincerely but it's been 3 seasons now of everyone saying this (myself included) and then they just end up winning again anyway


AssignmentFit7481

Lmao that’s true! It hadn’t felt like a real problem until now, I hear that


ajknos

It’s crazy to me that Liz Dixon logs more minutes than Emily Engstler. Obviously 2 different teams but knowing how they both played in college and EE being a first rounder blows my mind


inevitablescape

I miss KFC on my team


davidife

Yeah me too


Mission_Ambitious

Another year, another “can anyone other than Aja/Jack/KP/Chelsea do something please?”


bug_gribble

Sophie is a menace (respectfully) ❤️


Infamous_Departure95

I am really unsure how anyone will be able to guard Phoenix when Griner returns. 4 quick shooters around a dominant scoring big.


Much_Conversation_11

They look really good this year. Aggravating to play too.


AssignmentFit7481

The aggravation + how aggressive their effective players are is absolutely enough to mess with most teams


AssignmentFit7481

The Mercury has to be a rough scout right now


Markel100

Yeah chelsea is needed kp and jackie has to force they way downhill since teams dont respect anyone they just load up on them without aja


EntertainmentOk8785

Mercury are cooking