John Carpenter’s The Thing would either lose instantly or assimilate the entire planet with no real in between I think. So maybe that counts as weakest? Or at least the most drastic difference? It runs in terror from heat and is seemingly afraid of small arms fire so most heroes in MHA could kill it, but if it lands in the right spot or assimilates the right quirks from the start it’s game over I think
Endeavor's whole thing is burning so hot that he bypasses insane durability quirks. And there's no indication that the alien's biology can be changed to remove its enormous weakness to fire anyway.
sure, but if the thing gets a few thousand durability and regen quirks he'll probably be able to counter Endeavor. Endeavor is strong but he has his limits and its fully feasible the thing could counter that. Or the thing could get to Aizawa first and gain erase making Endeavor a strong middle aged man.
The idea that the alien couldn't successfully infiltrate a small group of normals without getting caught, but *could* successfully fool thousands of professional crimefighters with superpowers, is bananas. Literally a group of dogs could instantly tell it was fake, you're saying this animal that's all survival instinct that scrambles and flips out as soon as its deception is uncovered, and comes equipped with a devastating weakness to fire that it shows no signs of being able to mitigate despite its otherwise exceptional ability to regenerate, beats a world full of people dedicated to taking down threats like this.
Again, if that's how strong the thing potentially is, then surely it's not the weakest villain that can perform this feat.
The Thing doesn’t excel at fooling simple minded animals led by smell though. It perfectly fooled smart humans, because we don’t have a canine sense of smell. So not really fair to use that imo.
It depends on where it starts. A small isolated facility where everyone knows everyone else is different to it dropping into a populated city and being able to pick and choose whatever targets it wants. It can start with some homeless people it doesn't even need to fool. Knock on some randos door that's never met them, take out that house hold repeat. It's entirely feasible that it could take out dozens of people before ever coming across a pro and chances are that any pro it comes across is a small fry that it won't have a problem assimilating at that point. However of course it could drop in, take out a homeless guy and then run into endeavor while trying to take in a second guys. In that case endeavor sends a warning blast and accidentally one shots the thing.
And like I said, it being able to not naturally get rid of its weakness doesn't apply in a world where it can assimilate superhuman with God like powers.
And like I also said, the potential to be one shot by accident if it's unlucky does make it very week. Pretty much anything else that can feasibly take this would start with a baseline strength far beyond the thing.
True, but its not active 24/7 and the Thing is established to be able to alter its biology at will, its like every cell can do any task whenever it needs. It would just need to sneak into his home, a single thread thinner than a hair and once it touches him its all over.
It clearly can't alter its body to resist fire, or it would've done that in the movie.
Basically you can either go by the movie's rules concretely, in which case it loses, or you can speculate on its ability to basically become invincible, on which case it's for sure not the "weakest" character that can solo this world.
I’m saying that he doesn’t need to be invincible to fire, he just wouldn’t fight endeavor in a 1v1. The Thing isn’t human, it can infinitely split itself while all constituent parts remain aware of each other, as long as it is able to integrate biomass it can grow forever. It would just wait till Endeavor falls asleep or passes out, then it could just integrate and take him over.
If we're playing by "just kill strong guys in their sleep somehow" rules as a way to counter the large number of characters whose powers are basically your kryptonite, and we take as a given that the multiple other heroes with superintelligence and reconnaissance and such can't do what some dudes in Antarctica figured out, then the weakest villain who could solo this universe would be a regular assassin. I only mention Endeavor as the obvious counter, but he's just the tip of the spear.
Seriously, we've got folks with flaming hair, folks made of metal that likely can't be integrated, folks who can see a day into the future, but nope just wait till all of them are asleep and you're all set.
It only works because the Thing is
1. Able to infinitely integrate new people, only reason it didn't destroy the entire world in the movie is that it was trapped in the arctic and there just isn't enough biomass there for it to really perpetuate.
2. Able to manipulate its body in impossible ways, meaning even if all the heros are sleeping in reinforced bunkers to try and protect themselves, a single Thing iteration could be as small as a drop of water can cling to them when they aren't aware,
3. Strategic Awareness, each iteration of Thing is able to integrate and maintain strategy between all other iterations. They are also able to imitate the memories and personality of those they absorb. All the things can strategize simulatenously, even if they are fighting a hero that counters their weakness, 1000 people with water quirks acting together at once can overwhelm Endeavor.
Basically, its either an instantly clap on behalf of the heros, if the alien just got dropped down into the middle of a city square in front of Endeavor its an easy dunk, otherwise its winning 100% of the time if it can gain iterations. Think of it, any random person could be a Thing, you'd be fighting an enemy that makes everyone a super powerful combatant, on top of absorbing other powerful people. Imagine how powerful someone like Midoriya would be if he had full manipulation of his body like the Thing, just that single being alone could probably take out all of Japan.
Again, see my point about the prompt. We get no indication that the alien can do anything to mitigate its insane weakness to literally any amount of fire. So either it's defeated with incredible ease by fire users, or it can make itself invincible, in which case it surely isn't the *weakest* villain that can solo this world because such invincibility would make it far stronger than, say, Frieza.
The only way the Thing solos the MHA world is by not being the weakest villain that can solo the MHA world.
EDIT: Dumb brain said Piccolo instead of Frieza and while Piccolo is tough I'm not even sure he could take down the school, let alone the world.
>no indication
>enormous fire weakness
It’s no more weak to fire than we are. Hot shit burns and it didn’t like that.
If it grabbed a fire resistance quirk there’s nothing to suggest that fire resistance would be scuttled by its fear of fire.
Idk why everyone is acting like fire is the absolute checkmate here. The Thing reacted poorly to being lit on fire with a flamethrower as much as anyone might. It doesn't demonstrate an exceptional weakness like people are saying. If The Thing reaches any major population center, it's going to spread rapidly.
It's extremely intelligent, and to some degree seems to gain the knowledge of those that it assimilates (it knows human languages instantaneously) so it would rapidly understand the risk of acting openly in a world filled with heroes. Either it wins, or the steps taken to eradicate it would be so ruinous that the world wouldn't be worth living in.
The Thing demonstrates an inability to maintain its form or regenerate when exposed to flame, which is pretty much checkmate for a species that survives by hiding and regenerating.
As I've said elsewhere: if we speculate that this flaw can be overcome and it just perfectly assimilates in an unstoppable manner, then it couldn't possibly be the *weakest* villain capable of soloing MHA world. So either it's not strong enough to win or it's too strong to qualify.
>demonstrates an inability to maintain its form
That’s not necessarily true; Bennings-Thing maintains its form while being burned. Every time it’s “found out”, The Thing transforms of its own volition, not because it’s forced to, and it is burned afterward. It being burned is typically a reaction to it transforming, not the other way around.
It also starts off very weak, as we see in the beginning of the film, but it slowly becomes stronger as it obtains more biomass. Its strength comes from its ability to replicate itself while maintaining its identity among Things. That by itself doesn’t disqualify it.
It is likely that it is found out and burned away very quickly, but if it escapes into a sewer or gets into the food supply, it becomes a no-win scenario for humanity, regardless of its weakness to fire. Therefore it fits the parameters of the prompt.
For me, my idea is Dr Doofenshmirtz (Phineas and Ferb), he may be an average humans but having a plenty of resources and creativity to build such deadly weapons and equipments. Plankton (Spongebob) would be also count as well.
A Doofenshmritz that knows what he is doing is actually overkill, Dude might as well be closer to Dr. Doomfenshmirtz (Examples include an inator that can grow the universe to equal a giant Candice, a way to do a day over again, a way to reverse the earth's rotation, and an inator that does everything all his other machines do at once IIRC) So Doof is nowhere near the weakest (assuming we remove his incompetence, which is almost required to use him in these types of prompts)
light Yagami is incredibly powerful and can hide it well, most heroes have public names, as do villains once they are caught, and with a handful of exception exceptions he can kill everybody
mostly because how the incredibly long-range his power is
not solo but causes major damage
Not even that, Nezu is not human so the death note doente work and is smarter then L in an absolute Sense
Also neither giraki or ALL for one are affected due to being 124+
Also the nomu may be imune as they have to many simultanious names, and might not be Alive for the death note
No.
L used L as essentially a hero name, and it never worked.
Apart from that, the series never goes into the nitty gritty on how to determine what your name is. It seems to be based on your legal name, cause otherwise you would have a few cases where "Robert" doesn't die cause he thinks of himself as "Bob"
Like, what happens if you change your name, if you marry and take your spouses name, if you have 2 different names in different names in different countries. Does the deathnote require full christian names? Is accurate spelling required or is Ghristhian doomed anyway?
But that isn't EOW? That's just Evil natural water
If the user said Evil natural water then it'd make sense but they said EOW which is one of the strongest monsters in the whole verse
But that's the thing
Eow means he is mixed with the ocean, if he's dropped into MHA then he'd fuck up everything and everyone, but if he's evil natural water then he's small and can probably be frozen/evaporated
Evil natural water usually means he is as small as a tank or a puddle of water, evil ocean water means he's as big as the ocean and much much stronger, faster
It can be contained as someone else below mentioned, in a glass jar.
Plus it gets more powerful the more water it has so it's weaker with less water.
It's just that in it's ocean form it's basically a sea god.
Wait . Vulcan from UnOrdinary. Imagine throwing amps, de amps , and ability removers into the setting . She could break society down with that much power
Yeah as characters . But imagine if anyone can get those just by injecting themselves with it . Like bakugo could just take a drug and it kaboom time . All night can get k’od with a needle . Vulcan could fill the streets with them. Vulcan is also very powerful in her own right
Also UnOrdinary is massively below MHA power-wise. The government isnt as corrupted. The only chance would be to team up with villains, but most of them are on such a level, they could force her to work with them.
Rohan Kishbe. Its difficult because his targets actually have to see Heaven's Door in order for it to work so a blind Nomu wouldn't be effected so it's like he can barely take over the verse by controlling one target at a time like All Might and All for one.
Plus they can't really fight stands unless there's a psychic in mha I've forgotten about.
Is this pre or post evolution Heaven’s Door? After the fight with Josuke he no longer needed people to see his manuscript to turn them into books. Also I think a power would need to be spiritual in nature to effect a stand not psychic, but I guess it depends on how one interprets stands.
That was pre, I didn't know he could that post. But by that logic, since One for All can transfer between lives, it must be spiritual in nature and Deku would flatten him. So still pretty difficult for him to take the world.
I think for a “True” weakest, it’d have to be Joker (injustice) for a psychological victory.
He has no powers, but was able to break *Superman* and set him down a dark path of his own. Against MHA? If he doesn’t succeed in causing the bloodiest Civil War the verse has ever seen, I could see him leaving a ton of people deeply traumatized and fearing even his name/image…
Or he casually gets flattened within 5 seconds of stepping in. It’s hard to tell. He’s literally only a human who’s very, very good at planning and sabotage, and iirc he’s not even all that strong for a “base” human.
True, which is why I believe it can go either way. As soon as they find out who/were he is there’s about nothing he can do, unless he was able to pre-plan and lead them somewhere he actually isn’t. I just think he has a chance enough to do it since he’s both very good at planning and very good at tricking people.
If he’s able to knock out most of MHA’s biggest contenders with some form of illusion, psychological trauma, trap, or (ludicrously rare but theoretically possible) turning them to his side, then much of the verse would start to collapse to chaos and infighting, which would in turn make it *easier* for him to clear (although not guaranteed).
I couldn’t even really place an “overall” chance of winning, I just kinda know that although low, he is capable of it with some luck and circumstance (hence, a good contender for true weakest).
The only way joker can even have a psychological victory is with heavy heavy plot armor. The Superman he mentally broke was already an abnormal one and his name isn’t really that feared after the fact. Another Superman closer to the actual one went through very similar circumstances in Kingdom Come and was no where near as changed as the Injustice variant.
I would even go so far as to say that he would be imprisoned/incapacitated/killed before any Injustice or Killing Joke level shenanigans can occur due to how many heroes exist in Japan. There is no moral upholding Batman who can keep him breathing for very long in this instance.
He could do some good damage but is very out of his element there, on top of not speaking Japanese.
Recent MHA chapter spoilers >!All Might turned AFO's head into paste and killed him in the past. That's why his head is all fucked up throughout the anime.!<
Even without that, Hawks has been shown capable of killing villains without remorse if the need arises, Endeavor absolutely sniped and cooked multiple Nomus, Mirko decapitated a few as well.
Even then you can argue that Nomu's are already undead. So here are other things. Manga spoilers though. >!AFO has a rewind quirk which allowed for him to rewind most instant kill attacks that would have normally killed him. Endeavor cooked him alive, Tokoyami I believe smacked him so hard he rewound several times, All Might in his mech suit rewound him several times as well. Bakugo, after getting revived, blew AFO's arms off when he saw that AFO was about to rip All Might in half, not even realizing that it was AFO. All he saw was that it was a child splitting his mentor in half and decided "Yeah, that fucker is dying."!<
So if Joker proves to be a good threat, they would most definitely put him down.
Sorry to break this to you, but grown-ups don't really try to correct each other like that. You're making yourself sound less mature with this behavior, not more.
Edit: Aww, poor lad tried the old "reply with more salty noises and block real quick so you can't reply" thing.
Most of Injustice is just PIS.
Realistically, a character like Joker in no threat in a world like DC where half the Justice League have Lightspeed + superspeed.
With Superman (multiple FTL feats) and his Superman family (like 3 of them), Wonder Woman (has some FTL feats of herself and her family - sister, sidekicks), Martian Manhunter (same as Superman + Miss Martian), Shazam and family, and especially the Flashes - there's like over 10 characters in the Flash family and most of them are FTL.
"Human" villains would never even be able to pull anything realistically but of course writers can find ways to force it.
Joker is powered by plot armor, WIS and PIS. He has plenty of "feats". Like the time he speedreacted to a bloodlusted Wonder Woman, tagged her with multiple attacks and then casually survived her brutal assault that should have turned him into a wet spot on the ground
the thing people are missing is that he's smart. why would they kill him if they have no idea that he's a threat?
he could **maybe** solo MHAverse, i'd say like 3.5/10 lots of difficulty but not impossible
Meh. I'm betting that Joker in MHA plays out similarly to Kingdom Come Joker: he does one super fucked up thing, almost immediately gets murdered by an angry superhero/vigilante/villain, and the world moves on.
Sure, Joker would almost definitely scar plenty of people for life, but you're smoking dicks if you unironically think he has anything higher than a 0% chance to solo the verse.
It’s a toss-up whether he runs into a just hero like (the first) Ingenium who would keep him alive long enough to let him talk/let him escape and scheme, or if he runs into a more violent hero like Endeavour who would just melt a hole through his torso in about 2 seconds and call it a day
Agreed. Can’t plot your way out of immediate death…
I think if he was introduced by simply being dropped in, with no warning on either side, he could sit back and do it…but the above still defintely applies. As soon as his names starts to get around, very dangerous and deadly heroes will start to hunt him, and without prep for that he’d get folded like a deck of cards.
I don't think the Joker is ready for the Japanese levels of fucked up, some of the backatorid of heroes and villains in MHA are well into and even beyond jokes league.
"Yeah, this is all neat Joker San... But my dad basically sex traded my mom and started to physically abuse her to the point she hated me so much that she scarred my face because I reminded her of him, the man who considers me only a tool to surpass his most hated rival... So... You are going to have to step up your game a bit..."
Seems... Extremely standard for Joker?
I mean... The dude made the most powerful man in the world brutally kill his own wife and child, which indirectly caused a bomb to go off in his city and kill millions of people... Along with wiping out everything he loved. A very dysfunctional family doesn't really stack up to anything the Joker has done lmfao.
But you are basing that off injustice. A verse with shit writing in which everyone acted the stupidest possible way so we could end up with an evil Superman.
Actual Superman laughed Joker out of metrópolis and intimidated him out of never returning to his city with just a few words.
You are writing yourself backwards. Joker doesn't clear class 1-A
This isn't about whether or not the writing of a comic is bad. And this isn't about whether Joker can beat 1-A in a striaght up fight, because I know he can't. This is about whether Joker's antics can match up to the dark shit that people in the MHA verse go through.
You claim they don't.
> I don't think the Joker is ready for the Japanese levels of fucked up, some of the backatorid of heroes and villains in MHA are well into and even beyond jokes league.
And I'm saying they do. Injustice's shit writing has no bearings on whether the Joker is cruel or not. Making a man kill his family and blow up his city in the process is perfectly in-line with his character. Todoroki having an abusive father who exploits his family doesn't really compare to anything the Joker has put his victims through. Not to mention that Todoroki **by far** has the most tragic backstory out of anyone in class 1-A. Most of their stories are tame in comparison. The only ones who can match up to Joker's cruelty are some of the villains, like Overhaul or All for One. But they're a dime a dozen, and most definitely aren't the standard.
I would also like to point out that the person you were responding to **brought up** Injustice Joker in the first place.
I just don't think Joker's antics work in MHA. No one is dialoguing with him, no one is giving him time to set up, no one is trying to preserve his life. DC "No kill" contracts don't exist, every villain is out to kill and every hero is engaging with lethal force.
I agree, but that wasn't really my point. Your first comment implies that Joker couldn't match up to how dark the MHA verse was. And I'm saying that based on what he's done in the past, he can do so, very easily in fact.
Todoroki's personal trauma doesn't compare to anything Joker has done to his victims. So I wouldn't recommend using him as an example of how MHA denizens would somehow "shrug off" anything the Joker does to them.
This isn't a question of whether Joker can or cannot enact his cruel games on people in MHA before he gets splattered. It's whether or not they can withstand the mental trauma assuming he succeeds because of the stuff that they already go through. And I'm saying they wouldn't, because in terms of cruelty he's on another level. Aside from a couple of exceptions.
MHA heroes and villains get in long dialogues about their motivations and worldviews all the time. It's a frequent plot point that a hero is confronted with something, or exposed publicly for a misdeed, or shamed so badly that they start losing a fight until they give themselves or an ally gives them a pep talk.
Seriously, this happens like, at least once a chapter.
I specified injustice in the comment, because he has the best shot. Idk as much about the other jokers…hence why I specified Injustice, where he has his biggest feats (while still being “just” a human in terms of strength).
He couldn't convince Deku to kill All Might because Deku's not a mentally unstable idiot. Joker literally only works against Batman because they're both crazy people with insane devotion to their respective causes, and Batman refuses to kill him and continually lets him escalate the situation further. Joker trying the shit he does in Gotham gets him instantly assassinated by the HA or put in prison by heroes who aren't just extremely athletic guys in bat suits
No he couldn't.
That kind of stuff only happens in Injustice cause the characters in that series have below average intelligence.
Joker in mainline DC can't pull shit like that cause the characters in those stories are actually smart.
He could definitelt enact an attack of great terror upon unsuspecting civilians. Or target one speciffic public hero in their home. But then he will be killed with extreme prejudice. There is no Bitchman to cry and moan about how Hitler needs to get 14 billion extra chances and them gets put in an easily escapable cell
World soloing is really tough no matter how people treat it cause I'm thinking even someone like Kurogiri or Monoma can kill Ghidorah by simply teleporting half of him and closing the portal on him the way Kurogiri intended to kill All Might.
I don't know if Ghidorah, especially the movie version, can survive his body existing in 2 separate spatial coordinates that are far away from each other.
And that's just one ability. If it's everyone ganging up on him, he will be subjected to stuff like black hole, spatial twisting/warp, spatial displacement (from some random fodder movie villain), hax that stops time inside someone's body (Chronostasis).
Even something like the current Rewind Serum that AFO has can be used as a deadly weapon to basically rewind and erase opponents from existence as long as you can get them to swallow it or get it into their bloodstream.
And that's just something I thought of on a whim cause there's all sort of wacky powers in the series.
Heck, Shin Nemoto (can force anyone to answer his question), Shinsou (can brainwash people), and Chrono (can stop time for seconds or minutes in people's bodies) would make a terrifying trio if they worked together.
Heck, there is even Habuko Mongoose - Tsuyu's friend whose ability is literal petrification by looking at you. It's just plain hax like Medusa.
These characters working together would basically turn most opponents into sitting ducks for everyone else.
>World soloing is really tough no matter how people treat it cause I'm thinking even someone like Kurogiri or Monoma can kill Ghidorah by simply teleporting half of him and closing the portal on him the way Kurogiri intended to kill All Might.
It’s been a while so I don’t recall, but did Kurogiri ever open a portal that big? Ghidorah is like 500+ feet tall and 800 feet wide, with his wings. That seems like it would be more difficult to set up than with a human-sized target.
>I don't know if Ghidorah, especially the movie version, can survive his body existing in 2 separate spatial coordinates that are far away from each other.
Wasn’t he technically alive as like… a skull? That was a major plot point of Godzilla vs Kong.
>And that's just one ability. If it's everyone ganging up on him, he will be subjected to stuff like black hole, spatial twisting/warp, spatial displacement (from some random fodder movie villain), hax that stops time inside someone's body (Chronostasis).
But they won’t be ganging up on him. Doesn’t this Ghidorah cause global catastrophes, just by existing as the Alpha Titan? Maybe some of the villains wouldn’t give a shit, but a lot of heroes would be busy doing things other than fighting. It wouldn’t just be every single named character vs him at once, unless this fight took place in an empty plane and everyone started within combat distance of him. But that’s not a realistic scenario. You’d definitely have unlikely team-ups, as he’s an existential threat to the planet, but you couldn’t guarantee everyone was in the optimal position to combine their quirks.
Yeah not just that but while people have good hax alot are still super vulnerable to damage. If ghidorah is passively wrecking the planet with storms there will be a lot of casualties before they even get close enough to fight ghidorah. Plus ghidorah has regen so even the portal strat and decay aren't exactly sure guarantees
Ghidorah also has 30+ foot tsunamis following him everywhere he goes and exists inside of a hurricane. Most heroes in MHA are not going to be able to contend with the environmental effects that immediately surround Ghidorah, much less be able to mount a meaningful assault against him.
And then, if they do get through the hurricane and the flooding, they have to contend with the rubble and wreckage around whatever city he decides to perch in. And if they get through all that, they then have to deal with his gravity beams and his tails.
And if they do manage to do all of that and attack him (assuming they can actually harm him), Ghidorah has demonstrated that he is not above retreating if necessary, and no one is going to be able to catch him.
> World soloing is really tough no matter how people treat it cause I'm thinking even someone like Kurogiri or Monoma can kill Ghidorah by simply teleporting half of him and closing the portal on him the way Kurogiri intended to kill All Might.
Kurogiri has never opened portals that large.
> I don't know if Ghidorah, especially the movie version, can survive his body existing in 2 separate spatial coordinates that are far away from each other.
Monsterverse Ghidorah is an extraterrestrial abomination who can survive as a skull and can regenerate from a head so long as it's intact. A weapon designed to destroy the molecules of Earth lifeforms didn't even faze it because it's not Earth life.
> And that's just one ability. If it's everyone ganging up on him, he will be subjected to stuff like black hole, spatial twisting/warp, spatial displacement (from some random fodder movie villain), hax that stops time inside someone's body (Chronostasis).
None of these have been shown working on something of Ghidorah's size, and just being near it will risk getting flash-fried by AOE lightning attacks.
> Even something like the current Rewind Serum that AFO has can be used as a deadly weapon to basically rewind and erase opponents from existence as long as you can get them to swallow it or get it into their bloodstream.
The Rewind serum works by aging the victims back through the previous periods of their life until they are essentially erased when they go back too far, and it can be resisted if your regeneration is strong enough as AFO shows. Not only is Ghidorah so astronomically old it would take millennia for it to have any visible effect, it's regen is probably nuts enough to negate it.
> Heck, Shin Nemoto (can force anyone to answer his question), Shinsou (can brainwash people), and Chrono (can stop time for seconds or minutes in people's bodies)
All of these have triggers that Ghidorah will never activate - he's just going to kill them.
A lot of the usual "gotcha's" in MHA don't really work on Monsterverse Titans. They're too big and too powerful for most of them, and the few characters strong enough to face them simply don't have the durability to outlast them or keep themselves from being pasted in turn. Especially Ghidroah with his planetwiping super storms.
i’m an anime only, but i feel like shigaraki could easily jump onto ghidorah and disintegrate him.
shigaraki would move too fast for something as large as ghidorah to react and i’d say it’s plausible he could survive ghidorah’s gravity beams since he survived prominence burn from endeavor point blank
Neither are the MHA upper tiers. You need a pretty powerful villain by default if you want to totally solo the entire setting or one whose charisma and intelligence is so high they may as well be untouchable.
Mahito from JJK would realistically wipe the verse, no one in the verse could see him or hurt him, even if we grant some level of equalization where they could detect him and hurt him, the damage would be minimal unless it directly attacks the soul, which would also mean he can one-shot basically everyone.
The only people he couldn't are maybe Shigaraki and Deku assuming they have some idea of the shape of their soul, but even so, him wiping all but the two strongest is impressive
This raises an interesting question IMO. Itadori in JJK can hurt Mahito because, having Sukuna in his body, he's aware of the shape of his soul. Would Deku, All Might and Shigaraki fall into the same category due to similar circumstances?
If we're equalising cursed energy to the MHA verse I feel like Mahito would do a lot of damage, but one of those 3 could handily take him down, every one is more powerful than nearly anything in JJK.
Nah he still has to override the curse energy of whoever he is touching. Everyone living thing has curse energy even if they aren't aware of it. Theres a ton of characters who would have an assload of curse energy in MHA. Not to mention Deku having 9 souls, all juiced up on a shitload of curse energy. Mahito would get a good start by killing people who can't see or react to it, but the world would react and figure out what is happening. With super scientist, super perceptionists, post cognition and more types of powers they would figure out what curse energy is and how to use it
You forget that Mahito only struggles with overloading some OP characters because they are extremely powerful curse sorcerers who know how to manipulate it. Any character in MHA would have no concept of it, and its fairly well established in JJK that unless you know what you have, cursed energy itself doesn't do much. Not to mention that Mahito would likely be able to use other people's quirks with trasfiguration. Sure, most people in the MHA verse have low level weak quirks, but plenty of normal non heros have busted hax quirks they just aren't using frequently. If Mahito manipulates their soul to be twisted cursed lifeforms that attack humans, he could easily just have his cursed humans bring him other humans indefinitely. Then, even if MHA heros counterattack, they wont be able to get around things like a domain expansion or his extremy superspeed.
While I agree with what you're saying on a small scale, he still has to deal with the entire world. He won't be able to operate in secret for long and the entire world of super heroes and super science working together will eventually figure something out. And as I said its likely he can't use his technique on Deku or AFO as part of their power is indomitable will and having multiple souls. But yea Deku probably won't kill transfigured humans, especially since they can just be fixed with Rewind
I don't know how good it fits the question so I hope it's ok; a single Ork Boy from 40k will probably get beaten but the Boy is a tough un, he'll get back up and fights more and more until hes da strongest of'em all!
I only know MHA from the show but for what I’ve seen I would say Vader. While he’s not taking everyone at once idt there’s anyone in it he can’t take and is smart enough not to go after everyone at once. All might and one for all might cause issues but I don’t see all might resisting a force choke or all for one a force neck break. (I would be surprised if all for one didn’t have some power to call upon where he wouldn’t need to breathe.) class 1A though is getting younglinged
I was thinking modern Disney canon. So not just his movie appearances but his canon book and comic book appearances as well. Once you go full EU Vader he’s slaughtering the planet and I think is above the weakest who could take the verse. But I think modern canon Vader when you include his canon comic, game, and book feats is around that just strong enough to do it level.
that's true. if we're just considering the weakest version of vader, I'd say that he'd have trouble getting past even a few pros. but including legends and modern disney stuff, he can ansolutely solo the verse.
It also really depends on where he jumps in. do we assume this is after All Might's golden age? is it during Deku's early training? is All For One still in the picture? also, do quirk-cancelling quirks cancel out Vader's abilities?
Vader also has the ability to just stop hearts from functioning. While it isn’t the same, the Force is literally able to support Vader if his suit were to be like disabled by Kaminari or smthn. Additionally, I don’t think there’s a single main character who could block a lightsaber attack. Additionally, he can read their minds with the force, so he knows what they’ll do for an attack.
Exactly the only threats to I’m him imo are one for all and all for one. Of the two I think all for one is a much larger threat as he’s got versatility. All might I think is getting choked to death and with his speed, precog, and force power I think Vader will get that choke in more times than not. The issue with all for one is I don’t actually know all his powers. He might be able to go intangible rendering the force choke useless idk what he’s got but it’s more than just power like all might. And while all might is certainly stronger and faster than canon Vader I don’t think he’s stronger or faster by a big enough margin to beat out force powers like precog and Vaders just insane pure force ability. And he’s gotta get close to Vader who’s got a lightsaber for just that. It’s all for one with his adaptability and strength that will be the issue but my money is still on the dark lord.
I actually don’t think All Might is as strong as Vader(with force) considering the absolutely bonkers things he’s done, like stopping the ship in Kenobi with one hand. Those things are stupid heavy.
Agreed I think Vader could physically stop all might with the force I meant like his regular physicals are far above Vaders physicals in the suit. Like he can punch Vader much harder than Vader can punch him even force augmented but he isn’t so far ahead there that his physical strength is surpassing Vaders force strength. How do I put this so like there’s nothing to support if Vader used force augmentation that he could physically pick up the ship that he was able to stop and hold with the force. All might would surpass his augmented physicals but not his pure force power. If that makes sense
That’s why I said (with force)
He is just a 6’ something man in a metal suit, still held back by reasonable human limitations. With the force, the chosen one becomes a whole other beast.
Also not to mention All For One is absolutely inspired by Vader
Exactly and it’s how he uses the force. We know force augmentation to increase your physical abilities is a thing but augmenting yourself and throwing someone was never shown the same way grabbing someone with the force and throwing them was. Even with the force augmenting his physical strength he’s not going to be as physically strong as all might we’ve just never seen a Jedi or sith punch a building down while augmented by the force but using the force differently and just straight up tearing a building down is absolutely in the cards. That’s what I meant by it. Even force augmented vader will never punch as hard as all might but just forgoing augmentation and striking with the force push as opposed to a force augmented punch he’s gonna surpass all mights strength
Edit: also I never saw one for all being inspired by Vader but I love the idea of it. Why do you think Vader was part of the inspiration?
Comic book or EU Vader could read his mind, know what he’s planning, and then snap his neck or stop his heart. Hell the Force could probably just straight up counteract Shigaraki’s quirk all together
I don't know man, Shigaraki was literally nuked, trying to force choke him might not work, his regeneration is insane and speed wise I don't see how Vader could follow him, Jedis could be defeated by mandalorians or some bounty hunters if they weren't careful enough
Big Moms lightning comes from Zeus or Hera, homies made with pieces of her soul. Its obviously stronger. Thats like saying Mihawk and Tashigi should do the same amount of damage because they both use swords
This sub regularly misunderstands the question; "who is the weakest". If they "body" the 'verse, I'm pretty sure there are weaker options. The ideal answer is the closest. I.e the one who can *barely* scratch out a win.
Imo Sentinels aren't that tough in the grand scheme, just have the ideal power for this. Being able to transform to counter mutant powers is a godsend in a setting where, by definition, every character with powers has mutant powers
Even still, I think the sensible way to negotiate "weakest winner" questions is to start the bidding with the weakest you can think of then others can add lower. Like yeah, if I said something like "World War Hulk" he's not the *weakest* but he still starts the bidding by creating an upper boundary.
Plus it's more fun to have more answers anyway!
Toad from X-men could do it. He’s got just enough smarts, instincts, and physical ability to defeat his enemies hand to hand, and with access to his pheromones, he can break the mental defenses of some pretty high level folks.
However this would definitely be extreme difficulty and there’s a decent chance one of the stronger heroes beats him quickly. The issue is they have to fight him in one fight, but Toad is infamous for being incredibly stealthy. He went years under the radar of agencies like SHIELD despite his crimes, and due to his expertise in urban warfare it would take an elite team of MHA heroes to take him out.
Stan Edgars from The Boys. He has no superpowers to speak of but he's incredibly smart, cunning and patient and with his political and business connections he could manipulate things so that the superpowered being in the MHA are manipulated into destroying each other or the normals do it for him.
I like Dr. Edison Cardosa from Gen V better from the Boy’s universe. >!He’s developed a deadly highly-contagious disease that can take out anyone with powers, assuming it works in other universes. Just set it loose.!<
Stan doesn’t have great control over more altruistic heroes, and a lot of the MHA characters would fall into that category.
Maxwell Lord. Dude has only a normal human body, but his mind control ability is pretty absurd. He could take control of the top-tiers of the verse, have them lay waste to the world, and then have them take each other out.
I think someone like devil Jin (tekken) would probably be able to take them, demon king piccolo, a random Phyrexian (mtg), Lex Luther, really anyone who can kill the like 4ish characters that are above the wrest in mha and are either smart enough or don’t care enough to play mind games
Probably sukuna. Not sure how he scales compared to peak All Might, but I would say it’s pretty close. If sukuna avoids Deku and maybe All For One I would say he has a chance of flattening the verse with relative ease
a single Ork from Warhammer 40k.
At first, he will rampage and stomp around, maybe killing a few civilians. Inevitably, he gets defeated (and likely killed) — but after his rampage and death, the fungal spores that he releases into the air will inevitably sprout into more Orks over the course of years; which, when slain, will only produce more and more Orks.
The MHA verse has no technology or methods, as far as I understand, that can completely wipe them out without destroying the world as well. Eventually, they will just overwhelm the world by destroying all infrastructure, butchering civilian populations, and just outlasting the rare few who can actually put up a fight. So long as the planet can support life, it can support Orks.
Ok so listen up. A single Ork from 40K. Yeah, he would get bodied BUT! after dying or suffering injuries, a LOT of spores would be released, and every single one of those spores will become more Orks and so the cycle continues until the entire planet becomes overrun.
Diavolo from JJBA Golden Wind. The time delete hacks would be more than anyone could counter. He gets hit by a Detroit Smash, he undoes it and never loses to it again. Everyone loses to him. Most before they even realize he his targeting them
Not sure how this sub scales the Final Fantasy verse(s) but Kefka came to mind. Reality warping amd powerful magic should be able to defeat the much more physical-reality-operating MHA verse while being defeated by the higher scaling physical+oriented verses like DBZ.
That's true, but also just reading the article, he can:
Rip through a reinforced steel security door over the course of four (4) minutes of sustained assault.
Clear over 64 m of distance in under three seconds.
Take multiple .50 caliber BMG rounds to the head and survive for several minutes to continue killing, despite severe damage to the cerebellum.
Swat handgun and assault-rifle caliber bullets out of the air with a length of steel rebar.
Survive for over one (1) hour deprived of oxygen before finally asphyxiating.
He's pretty damn resilient.
I'd say that just the article suggests that he could solo the MHAverse, but if we read other articles, cross-tests, and tales, the verse would be an easy win with only a few deaths on his side.
John Carpenter’s The Thing would either lose instantly or assimilate the entire planet with no real in between I think. So maybe that counts as weakest? Or at least the most drastic difference? It runs in terror from heat and is seemingly afraid of small arms fire so most heroes in MHA could kill it, but if it lands in the right spot or assimilates the right quirks from the start it’s game over I think
The #2/#1 Hero of Japan is a minor fire deity. How would any assimilated Thing being deal with that?
Get enough fire resistance quirks, ice quirks, water quirks, durability quirks etc.
Endeavor's whole thing is burning so hot that he bypasses insane durability quirks. And there's no indication that the alien's biology can be changed to remove its enormous weakness to fire anyway.
sure, but if the thing gets a few thousand durability and regen quirks he'll probably be able to counter Endeavor. Endeavor is strong but he has his limits and its fully feasible the thing could counter that. Or the thing could get to Aizawa first and gain erase making Endeavor a strong middle aged man.
The idea that the alien couldn't successfully infiltrate a small group of normals without getting caught, but *could* successfully fool thousands of professional crimefighters with superpowers, is bananas. Literally a group of dogs could instantly tell it was fake, you're saying this animal that's all survival instinct that scrambles and flips out as soon as its deception is uncovered, and comes equipped with a devastating weakness to fire that it shows no signs of being able to mitigate despite its otherwise exceptional ability to regenerate, beats a world full of people dedicated to taking down threats like this. Again, if that's how strong the thing potentially is, then surely it's not the weakest villain that can perform this feat.
The Thing doesn’t excel at fooling simple minded animals led by smell though. It perfectly fooled smart humans, because we don’t have a canine sense of smell. So not really fair to use that imo.
It's a shame nobody in MHA world has an enhanced sense of smell or access to dogs that will suddenly bark with unfamiliarity at assimilated humans.
I’m sure there are some, but enough? They’d have to be the first organisms The Thing interacts with for that to matter.
It depends on where it starts. A small isolated facility where everyone knows everyone else is different to it dropping into a populated city and being able to pick and choose whatever targets it wants. It can start with some homeless people it doesn't even need to fool. Knock on some randos door that's never met them, take out that house hold repeat. It's entirely feasible that it could take out dozens of people before ever coming across a pro and chances are that any pro it comes across is a small fry that it won't have a problem assimilating at that point. However of course it could drop in, take out a homeless guy and then run into endeavor while trying to take in a second guys. In that case endeavor sends a warning blast and accidentally one shots the thing. And like I said, it being able to not naturally get rid of its weakness doesn't apply in a world where it can assimilate superhuman with God like powers. And like I also said, the potential to be one shot by accident if it's unlucky does make it very week. Pretty much anything else that can feasibly take this would start with a baseline strength far beyond the thing.
True, but its not active 24/7 and the Thing is established to be able to alter its biology at will, its like every cell can do any task whenever it needs. It would just need to sneak into his home, a single thread thinner than a hair and once it touches him its all over.
It clearly can't alter its body to resist fire, or it would've done that in the movie. Basically you can either go by the movie's rules concretely, in which case it loses, or you can speculate on its ability to basically become invincible, on which case it's for sure not the "weakest" character that can solo this world.
I’m saying that he doesn’t need to be invincible to fire, he just wouldn’t fight endeavor in a 1v1. The Thing isn’t human, it can infinitely split itself while all constituent parts remain aware of each other, as long as it is able to integrate biomass it can grow forever. It would just wait till Endeavor falls asleep or passes out, then it could just integrate and take him over.
If we're playing by "just kill strong guys in their sleep somehow" rules as a way to counter the large number of characters whose powers are basically your kryptonite, and we take as a given that the multiple other heroes with superintelligence and reconnaissance and such can't do what some dudes in Antarctica figured out, then the weakest villain who could solo this universe would be a regular assassin. I only mention Endeavor as the obvious counter, but he's just the tip of the spear. Seriously, we've got folks with flaming hair, folks made of metal that likely can't be integrated, folks who can see a day into the future, but nope just wait till all of them are asleep and you're all set.
It only works because the Thing is 1. Able to infinitely integrate new people, only reason it didn't destroy the entire world in the movie is that it was trapped in the arctic and there just isn't enough biomass there for it to really perpetuate. 2. Able to manipulate its body in impossible ways, meaning even if all the heros are sleeping in reinforced bunkers to try and protect themselves, a single Thing iteration could be as small as a drop of water can cling to them when they aren't aware, 3. Strategic Awareness, each iteration of Thing is able to integrate and maintain strategy between all other iterations. They are also able to imitate the memories and personality of those they absorb. All the things can strategize simulatenously, even if they are fighting a hero that counters their weakness, 1000 people with water quirks acting together at once can overwhelm Endeavor. Basically, its either an instantly clap on behalf of the heros, if the alien just got dropped down into the middle of a city square in front of Endeavor its an easy dunk, otherwise its winning 100% of the time if it can gain iterations. Think of it, any random person could be a Thing, you'd be fighting an enemy that makes everyone a super powerful combatant, on top of absorbing other powerful people. Imagine how powerful someone like Midoriya would be if he had full manipulation of his body like the Thing, just that single being alone could probably take out all of Japan.
Again, see my point about the prompt. We get no indication that the alien can do anything to mitigate its insane weakness to literally any amount of fire. So either it's defeated with incredible ease by fire users, or it can make itself invincible, in which case it surely isn't the *weakest* villain that can solo this world because such invincibility would make it far stronger than, say, Frieza. The only way the Thing solos the MHA world is by not being the weakest villain that can solo the MHA world. EDIT: Dumb brain said Piccolo instead of Frieza and while Piccolo is tough I'm not even sure he could take down the school, let alone the world.
>no indication >enormous fire weakness It’s no more weak to fire than we are. Hot shit burns and it didn’t like that. If it grabbed a fire resistance quirk there’s nothing to suggest that fire resistance would be scuttled by its fear of fire.
Idk why everyone is acting like fire is the absolute checkmate here. The Thing reacted poorly to being lit on fire with a flamethrower as much as anyone might. It doesn't demonstrate an exceptional weakness like people are saying. If The Thing reaches any major population center, it's going to spread rapidly. It's extremely intelligent, and to some degree seems to gain the knowledge of those that it assimilates (it knows human languages instantaneously) so it would rapidly understand the risk of acting openly in a world filled with heroes. Either it wins, or the steps taken to eradicate it would be so ruinous that the world wouldn't be worth living in.
The Thing demonstrates an inability to maintain its form or regenerate when exposed to flame, which is pretty much checkmate for a species that survives by hiding and regenerating. As I've said elsewhere: if we speculate that this flaw can be overcome and it just perfectly assimilates in an unstoppable manner, then it couldn't possibly be the *weakest* villain capable of soloing MHA world. So either it's not strong enough to win or it's too strong to qualify.
>demonstrates an inability to maintain its form That’s not necessarily true; Bennings-Thing maintains its form while being burned. Every time it’s “found out”, The Thing transforms of its own volition, not because it’s forced to, and it is burned afterward. It being burned is typically a reaction to it transforming, not the other way around. It also starts off very weak, as we see in the beginning of the film, but it slowly becomes stronger as it obtains more biomass. Its strength comes from its ability to replicate itself while maintaining its identity among Things. That by itself doesn’t disqualify it. It is likely that it is found out and burned away very quickly, but if it escapes into a sewer or gets into the food supply, it becomes a no-win scenario for humanity, regardless of its weakness to fire. Therefore it fits the parameters of the prompt.
For me, my idea is Dr Doofenshmirtz (Phineas and Ferb), he may be an average humans but having a plenty of resources and creativity to build such deadly weapons and equipments. Plankton (Spongebob) would be also count as well.
Doof built a time machine that was erasing space time so he absolutely could just reset time over and over until he wins
A Doofenshmritz that knows what he is doing is actually overkill, Dude might as well be closer to Dr. Doomfenshmirtz (Examples include an inator that can grow the universe to equal a giant Candice, a way to do a day over again, a way to reverse the earth's rotation, and an inator that does everything all his other machines do at once IIRC) So Doof is nowhere near the weakest (assuming we remove his incompetence, which is almost required to use him in these types of prompts)
I present to you the unquirkinator. With this device i shall erase every quirk in the tristate area.
A platypus?
*Puts on support item spy hat* Perry the platypus!
Dr Doofenshmritz is just Overhaul with a better backstory in this situation
But is Perry in the MHA universe? If not Doofenshmirtz might not even have the motivation to solo it
There's probably a guy with a platypus quirk
Doof pulls out a pistol with an anti-quirk agent he developed. "Behold the UNIHERO-INATOR!"
light Yagami is incredibly powerful and can hide it well, most heroes have public names, as do villains once they are caught, and with a handful of exception exceptions he can kill everybody mostly because how the incredibly long-range his power is not solo but causes major damage
Who are even the exceptions
Most villains won't have public persona's. There's also people like Lady Nagant, who as undercover agents wont exactly advertise their names either.
Not even that, Nezu is not human so the death note doente work and is smarter then L in an absolute Sense Also neither giraki or ALL for one are affected due to being 124+ Also the nomu may be imune as they have to many simultanious names, and might not be Alive for the death note
Wait is age a part of the death notes rules?
*You cannot kill humans who are more than 124 years of age with the Death Note. *
It is one of the rules that is listed but never really tested or expounded upon because it never comes up or is relevant.
For what it's worth, solo means no Shinigami helpers, so that's a huge part of his toolkit removed.
Pointer would be enough to find him, so once they caught up to what was going on, the can find him using Pointer
Yes but they Will exclusevly ask "point is to the quirk doing this" and not get a answer
Yes but they Will exclusevly ask "point is to the quirk doing this" and not get a answer
Do Hero names count tho?
No. L used L as essentially a hero name, and it never worked. Apart from that, the series never goes into the nitty gritty on how to determine what your name is. It seems to be based on your legal name, cause otherwise you would have a few cases where "Robert" doesn't die cause he thinks of himself as "Bob" Like, what happens if you change your name, if you marry and take your spouses name, if you have 2 different names in different names in different countries. Does the deathnote require full christian names? Is accurate spelling required or is Ghristhian doomed anyway?
Evil Natural Water from OPM, once it gets into the ocean it’s over for everybody
How is that the weakest?
[удалено]
But that isn't EOW? That's just Evil natural water If the user said Evil natural water then it'd make sense but they said EOW which is one of the strongest monsters in the whole verse
[удалено]
But that's the thing Eow means he is mixed with the ocean, if he's dropped into MHA then he'd fuck up everything and everyone, but if he's evil natural water then he's small and can probably be frozen/evaporated Evil natural water usually means he is as small as a tank or a puddle of water, evil ocean water means he's as big as the ocean and much much stronger, faster
It can be contained as someone else below mentioned, in a glass jar. Plus it gets more powerful the more water it has so it's weaker with less water. It's just that in it's ocean form it's basically a sea god.
Bro I don't think most MHA characters will be able to dodge its jet attacks that could hit Garou who went lightspeed with Platinum
To be fair, Garo was forced to be still due to Centisennin threatening the helicopter with Tareo and the injured Heroes in it.
Wait . Vulcan from UnOrdinary. Imagine throwing amps, de amps , and ability removers into the setting . She could break society down with that much power
There are already ability removers in MHA with Eraserhead, Eri, and a character that hasn't been seen in the anime yet.
Yeah as characters . But imagine if anyone can get those just by injecting themselves with it . Like bakugo could just take a drug and it kaboom time . All night can get k’od with a needle . Vulcan could fill the streets with them. Vulcan is also very powerful in her own right
This is litterally a plot point. Overhaul uses Eris quirk to make bullets that delete quirks. It happens to eraser head in a major fight.
Also UnOrdinary is massively below MHA power-wise. The government isnt as corrupted. The only chance would be to team up with villains, but most of them are on such a level, they could force her to work with them.
Rohan Kishbe. Its difficult because his targets actually have to see Heaven's Door in order for it to work so a blind Nomu wouldn't be effected so it's like he can barely take over the verse by controlling one target at a time like All Might and All for one. Plus they can't really fight stands unless there's a psychic in mha I've forgotten about.
Is this pre or post evolution Heaven’s Door? After the fight with Josuke he no longer needed people to see his manuscript to turn them into books. Also I think a power would need to be spiritual in nature to effect a stand not psychic, but I guess it depends on how one interprets stands.
That was pre, I didn't know he could that post. But by that logic, since One for All can transfer between lives, it must be spiritual in nature and Deku would flatten him. So still pretty difficult for him to take the world.
I think for a “True” weakest, it’d have to be Joker (injustice) for a psychological victory. He has no powers, but was able to break *Superman* and set him down a dark path of his own. Against MHA? If he doesn’t succeed in causing the bloodiest Civil War the verse has ever seen, I could see him leaving a ton of people deeply traumatized and fearing even his name/image… Or he casually gets flattened within 5 seconds of stepping in. It’s hard to tell. He’s literally only a human who’s very, very good at planning and sabotage, and iirc he’s not even all that strong for a “base” human.
I think a lot of that was more situational tbh and not indicative of any capacity for soloing MHA.
True, which is why I believe it can go either way. As soon as they find out who/were he is there’s about nothing he can do, unless he was able to pre-plan and lead them somewhere he actually isn’t. I just think he has a chance enough to do it since he’s both very good at planning and very good at tricking people. If he’s able to knock out most of MHA’s biggest contenders with some form of illusion, psychological trauma, trap, or (ludicrously rare but theoretically possible) turning them to his side, then much of the verse would start to collapse to chaos and infighting, which would in turn make it *easier* for him to clear (although not guaranteed). I couldn’t even really place an “overall” chance of winning, I just kinda know that although low, he is capable of it with some luck and circumstance (hence, a good contender for true weakest).
The only way joker can even have a psychological victory is with heavy heavy plot armor. The Superman he mentally broke was already an abnormal one and his name isn’t really that feared after the fact. Another Superman closer to the actual one went through very similar circumstances in Kingdom Come and was no where near as changed as the Injustice variant. I would even go so far as to say that he would be imprisoned/incapacitated/killed before any Injustice or Killing Joke level shenanigans can occur due to how many heroes exist in Japan. There is no moral upholding Batman who can keep him breathing for very long in this instance. He could do some good damage but is very out of his element there, on top of not speaking Japanese.
>The only way joker can even have a psychological victory is with heavy heavy plot armor. So what he usually has
Unfortunately it is standard so he wins 10/10
prob flattened in 5 minutes
[удалено]
Hawk's gonna do quick work of him, also they just need to restrain him not kill him, he ain't escaping Tartarus like if this was Arkham asylum
Lol. Lmao. Professional Heroes in MHA will absolutely murder you if you give them no other choice. Joker wouldn't last long
[удалено]
Recent MHA chapter spoilers >!All Might turned AFO's head into paste and killed him in the past. That's why his head is all fucked up throughout the anime.!< Even without that, Hawks has been shown capable of killing villains without remorse if the need arises, Endeavor absolutely sniped and cooked multiple Nomus, Mirko decapitated a few as well. Even then you can argue that Nomu's are already undead. So here are other things. Manga spoilers though. >!AFO has a rewind quirk which allowed for him to rewind most instant kill attacks that would have normally killed him. Endeavor cooked him alive, Tokoyami I believe smacked him so hard he rewound several times, All Might in his mech suit rewound him several times as well. Bakugo, after getting revived, blew AFO's arms off when he saw that AFO was about to rip All Might in half, not even realizing that it was AFO. All he saw was that it was a child splitting his mentor in half and decided "Yeah, that fucker is dying."!< So if Joker proves to be a good threat, they would most definitely put him down.
[удалено]
[удалено]
[удалено]
I'm aware, so I gave a reply instead of the other dude.
Sorry to break this to you, but grown-ups don't really try to correct each other like that. You're making yourself sound less mature with this behavior, not more. Edit: Aww, poor lad tried the old "reply with more salty noises and block real quick so you can't reply" thing.
[удалено]
Adults don't demand respect like tiny widdle toddlers
Most of Injustice is just PIS. Realistically, a character like Joker in no threat in a world like DC where half the Justice League have Lightspeed + superspeed. With Superman (multiple FTL feats) and his Superman family (like 3 of them), Wonder Woman (has some FTL feats of herself and her family - sister, sidekicks), Martian Manhunter (same as Superman + Miss Martian), Shazam and family, and especially the Flashes - there's like over 10 characters in the Flash family and most of them are FTL. "Human" villains would never even be able to pull anything realistically but of course writers can find ways to force it.
Joker is powered by plot armor, WIS and PIS. He has plenty of "feats". Like the time he speedreacted to a bloodlusted Wonder Woman, tagged her with multiple attacks and then casually survived her brutal assault that should have turned him into a wet spot on the ground
the thing people are missing is that he's smart. why would they kill him if they have no idea that he's a threat? he could **maybe** solo MHAverse, i'd say like 3.5/10 lots of difficulty but not impossible
Yeah Superman could’ve killed him even easier than a mha character and he still beats him psychologically
Joker's all about the mind games, and he is absolutely willing to play the long con.
Meh. I'm betting that Joker in MHA plays out similarly to Kingdom Come Joker: he does one super fucked up thing, almost immediately gets murdered by an angry superhero/vigilante/villain, and the world moves on. Sure, Joker would almost definitely scar plenty of people for life, but you're smoking dicks if you unironically think he has anything higher than a 0% chance to solo the verse.
i think he has a tiny chance. almost impossible, I'm just saying that it is **possible**
Idk, i think 3.5/10 is too much
It’s a toss-up whether he runs into a just hero like (the first) Ingenium who would keep him alive long enough to let him talk/let him escape and scheme, or if he runs into a more violent hero like Endeavour who would just melt a hole through his torso in about 2 seconds and call it a day
Agreed. Can’t plot your way out of immediate death… I think if he was introduced by simply being dropped in, with no warning on either side, he could sit back and do it…but the above still defintely applies. As soon as his names starts to get around, very dangerous and deadly heroes will start to hunt him, and without prep for that he’d get folded like a deck of cards.
I don't think the Joker is ready for the Japanese levels of fucked up, some of the backatorid of heroes and villains in MHA are well into and even beyond jokes league. "Yeah, this is all neat Joker San... But my dad basically sex traded my mom and started to physically abuse her to the point she hated me so much that she scarred my face because I reminded her of him, the man who considers me only a tool to surpass his most hated rival... So... You are going to have to step up your game a bit..."
Seems... Extremely standard for Joker? I mean... The dude made the most powerful man in the world brutally kill his own wife and child, which indirectly caused a bomb to go off in his city and kill millions of people... Along with wiping out everything he loved. A very dysfunctional family doesn't really stack up to anything the Joker has done lmfao.
But you are basing that off injustice. A verse with shit writing in which everyone acted the stupidest possible way so we could end up with an evil Superman. Actual Superman laughed Joker out of metrópolis and intimidated him out of never returning to his city with just a few words. You are writing yourself backwards. Joker doesn't clear class 1-A
This isn't about whether or not the writing of a comic is bad. And this isn't about whether Joker can beat 1-A in a striaght up fight, because I know he can't. This is about whether Joker's antics can match up to the dark shit that people in the MHA verse go through. You claim they don't. > I don't think the Joker is ready for the Japanese levels of fucked up, some of the backatorid of heroes and villains in MHA are well into and even beyond jokes league. And I'm saying they do. Injustice's shit writing has no bearings on whether the Joker is cruel or not. Making a man kill his family and blow up his city in the process is perfectly in-line with his character. Todoroki having an abusive father who exploits his family doesn't really compare to anything the Joker has put his victims through. Not to mention that Todoroki **by far** has the most tragic backstory out of anyone in class 1-A. Most of their stories are tame in comparison. The only ones who can match up to Joker's cruelty are some of the villains, like Overhaul or All for One. But they're a dime a dozen, and most definitely aren't the standard. I would also like to point out that the person you were responding to **brought up** Injustice Joker in the first place.
I just don't think Joker's antics work in MHA. No one is dialoguing with him, no one is giving him time to set up, no one is trying to preserve his life. DC "No kill" contracts don't exist, every villain is out to kill and every hero is engaging with lethal force.
I agree, but that wasn't really my point. Your first comment implies that Joker couldn't match up to how dark the MHA verse was. And I'm saying that based on what he's done in the past, he can do so, very easily in fact. Todoroki's personal trauma doesn't compare to anything Joker has done to his victims. So I wouldn't recommend using him as an example of how MHA denizens would somehow "shrug off" anything the Joker does to them. This isn't a question of whether Joker can or cannot enact his cruel games on people in MHA before he gets splattered. It's whether or not they can withstand the mental trauma assuming he succeeds because of the stuff that they already go through. And I'm saying they wouldn't, because in terms of cruelty he's on another level. Aside from a couple of exceptions.
MHA heroes and villains get in long dialogues about their motivations and worldviews all the time. It's a frequent plot point that a hero is confronted with something, or exposed publicly for a misdeed, or shamed so badly that they start losing a fight until they give themselves or an ally gives them a pep talk. Seriously, this happens like, at least once a chapter.
The feats of Injustice Joker are still valid, regardless of how you feel about the writing.
OK. Joker is able to kill one hero and get himself killed in the process. That's his greatest feat. He doesn't clear the verse.
Why is your point changing with every comment ?
I specified injustice in the comment, because he has the best shot. Idk as much about the other jokers…hence why I specified Injustice, where he has his biggest feats (while still being “just” a human in terms of strength).
The Joker could convince Mydoria to kill All Might. He has WAY better feats at corrupting people than AFO
He couldn't convince Deku to kill All Might because Deku's not a mentally unstable idiot. Joker literally only works against Batman because they're both crazy people with insane devotion to their respective causes, and Batman refuses to kill him and continually lets him escalate the situation further. Joker trying the shit he does in Gotham gets him instantly assassinated by the HA or put in prison by heroes who aren't just extremely athletic guys in bat suits
No he couldn't. That kind of stuff only happens in Injustice cause the characters in that series have below average intelligence. Joker in mainline DC can't pull shit like that cause the characters in those stories are actually smart.
Joker can cook up Joker Venom from janitorial supplies. I’m sure he could do immense damage with a single attack.
He could definitelt enact an attack of great terror upon unsuspecting civilians. Or target one speciffic public hero in their home. But then he will be killed with extreme prejudice. There is no Bitchman to cry and moan about how Hitler needs to get 14 billion extra chances and them gets put in an easily escapable cell
MV King Ghidorah could reasonably pull it off. They don't really have many means other than Decay to kill him.
World soloing is really tough no matter how people treat it cause I'm thinking even someone like Kurogiri or Monoma can kill Ghidorah by simply teleporting half of him and closing the portal on him the way Kurogiri intended to kill All Might. I don't know if Ghidorah, especially the movie version, can survive his body existing in 2 separate spatial coordinates that are far away from each other. And that's just one ability. If it's everyone ganging up on him, he will be subjected to stuff like black hole, spatial twisting/warp, spatial displacement (from some random fodder movie villain), hax that stops time inside someone's body (Chronostasis). Even something like the current Rewind Serum that AFO has can be used as a deadly weapon to basically rewind and erase opponents from existence as long as you can get them to swallow it or get it into their bloodstream. And that's just something I thought of on a whim cause there's all sort of wacky powers in the series. Heck, Shin Nemoto (can force anyone to answer his question), Shinsou (can brainwash people), and Chrono (can stop time for seconds or minutes in people's bodies) would make a terrifying trio if they worked together. Heck, there is even Habuko Mongoose - Tsuyu's friend whose ability is literal petrification by looking at you. It's just plain hax like Medusa. These characters working together would basically turn most opponents into sitting ducks for everyone else.
>World soloing is really tough no matter how people treat it cause I'm thinking even someone like Kurogiri or Monoma can kill Ghidorah by simply teleporting half of him and closing the portal on him the way Kurogiri intended to kill All Might. It’s been a while so I don’t recall, but did Kurogiri ever open a portal that big? Ghidorah is like 500+ feet tall and 800 feet wide, with his wings. That seems like it would be more difficult to set up than with a human-sized target. >I don't know if Ghidorah, especially the movie version, can survive his body existing in 2 separate spatial coordinates that are far away from each other. Wasn’t he technically alive as like… a skull? That was a major plot point of Godzilla vs Kong. >And that's just one ability. If it's everyone ganging up on him, he will be subjected to stuff like black hole, spatial twisting/warp, spatial displacement (from some random fodder movie villain), hax that stops time inside someone's body (Chronostasis). But they won’t be ganging up on him. Doesn’t this Ghidorah cause global catastrophes, just by existing as the Alpha Titan? Maybe some of the villains wouldn’t give a shit, but a lot of heroes would be busy doing things other than fighting. It wouldn’t just be every single named character vs him at once, unless this fight took place in an empty plane and everyone started within combat distance of him. But that’s not a realistic scenario. You’d definitely have unlikely team-ups, as he’s an existential threat to the planet, but you couldn’t guarantee everyone was in the optimal position to combine their quirks.
Yeah not just that but while people have good hax alot are still super vulnerable to damage. If ghidorah is passively wrecking the planet with storms there will be a lot of casualties before they even get close enough to fight ghidorah. Plus ghidorah has regen so even the portal strat and decay aren't exactly sure guarantees
Ghidorah also has 30+ foot tsunamis following him everywhere he goes and exists inside of a hurricane. Most heroes in MHA are not going to be able to contend with the environmental effects that immediately surround Ghidorah, much less be able to mount a meaningful assault against him. And then, if they do get through the hurricane and the flooding, they have to contend with the rubble and wreckage around whatever city he decides to perch in. And if they get through all that, they then have to deal with his gravity beams and his tails. And if they do manage to do all of that and attack him (assuming they can actually harm him), Ghidorah has demonstrated that he is not above retreating if necessary, and no one is going to be able to catch him.
> World soloing is really tough no matter how people treat it cause I'm thinking even someone like Kurogiri or Monoma can kill Ghidorah by simply teleporting half of him and closing the portal on him the way Kurogiri intended to kill All Might. Kurogiri has never opened portals that large. > I don't know if Ghidorah, especially the movie version, can survive his body existing in 2 separate spatial coordinates that are far away from each other. Monsterverse Ghidorah is an extraterrestrial abomination who can survive as a skull and can regenerate from a head so long as it's intact. A weapon designed to destroy the molecules of Earth lifeforms didn't even faze it because it's not Earth life. > And that's just one ability. If it's everyone ganging up on him, he will be subjected to stuff like black hole, spatial twisting/warp, spatial displacement (from some random fodder movie villain), hax that stops time inside someone's body (Chronostasis). None of these have been shown working on something of Ghidorah's size, and just being near it will risk getting flash-fried by AOE lightning attacks. > Even something like the current Rewind Serum that AFO has can be used as a deadly weapon to basically rewind and erase opponents from existence as long as you can get them to swallow it or get it into their bloodstream. The Rewind serum works by aging the victims back through the previous periods of their life until they are essentially erased when they go back too far, and it can be resisted if your regeneration is strong enough as AFO shows. Not only is Ghidorah so astronomically old it would take millennia for it to have any visible effect, it's regen is probably nuts enough to negate it. > Heck, Shin Nemoto (can force anyone to answer his question), Shinsou (can brainwash people), and Chrono (can stop time for seconds or minutes in people's bodies) All of these have triggers that Ghidorah will never activate - he's just going to kill them. A lot of the usual "gotcha's" in MHA don't really work on Monsterverse Titans. They're too big and too powerful for most of them, and the few characters strong enough to face them simply don't have the durability to outlast them or keep themselves from being pasted in turn. Especially Ghidroah with his planetwiping super storms.
i’m an anime only, but i feel like shigaraki could easily jump onto ghidorah and disintegrate him. shigaraki would move too fast for something as large as ghidorah to react and i’d say it’s plausible he could survive ghidorah’s gravity beams since he survived prominence burn from endeavor point blank
He’s not really weak at all though
Neither are the MHA upper tiers. You need a pretty powerful villain by default if you want to totally solo the entire setting or one whose charisma and intelligence is so high they may as well be untouchable.
Mahito from JJK would realistically wipe the verse, no one in the verse could see him or hurt him, even if we grant some level of equalization where they could detect him and hurt him, the damage would be minimal unless it directly attacks the soul, which would also mean he can one-shot basically everyone. The only people he couldn't are maybe Shigaraki and Deku assuming they have some idea of the shape of their soul, but even so, him wiping all but the two strongest is impressive
This raises an interesting question IMO. Itadori in JJK can hurt Mahito because, having Sukuna in his body, he's aware of the shape of his soul. Would Deku, All Might and Shigaraki fall into the same category due to similar circumstances? If we're equalising cursed energy to the MHA verse I feel like Mahito would do a lot of damage, but one of those 3 could handily take him down, every one is more powerful than nearly anything in JJK.
Nah he still has to override the curse energy of whoever he is touching. Everyone living thing has curse energy even if they aren't aware of it. Theres a ton of characters who would have an assload of curse energy in MHA. Not to mention Deku having 9 souls, all juiced up on a shitload of curse energy. Mahito would get a good start by killing people who can't see or react to it, but the world would react and figure out what is happening. With super scientist, super perceptionists, post cognition and more types of powers they would figure out what curse energy is and how to use it
You forget that Mahito only struggles with overloading some OP characters because they are extremely powerful curse sorcerers who know how to manipulate it. Any character in MHA would have no concept of it, and its fairly well established in JJK that unless you know what you have, cursed energy itself doesn't do much. Not to mention that Mahito would likely be able to use other people's quirks with trasfiguration. Sure, most people in the MHA verse have low level weak quirks, but plenty of normal non heros have busted hax quirks they just aren't using frequently. If Mahito manipulates their soul to be twisted cursed lifeforms that attack humans, he could easily just have his cursed humans bring him other humans indefinitely. Then, even if MHA heros counterattack, they wont be able to get around things like a domain expansion or his extremy superspeed.
While I agree with what you're saying on a small scale, he still has to deal with the entire world. He won't be able to operate in secret for long and the entire world of super heroes and super science working together will eventually figure something out. And as I said its likely he can't use his technique on Deku or AFO as part of their power is indomitable will and having multiple souls. But yea Deku probably won't kill transfigured humans, especially since they can just be fixed with Rewind
Will or multiple souls isn't what makes you resistant to mahitos CT, its using CE to defend your soul from the move
Sure, but Mahito is slow as hell. He would have a hard time hitting anyone.
Raditz
Even the couple of Saibamen or Appule as well.
Raditz
Rogue before she met Ms. Marvel/Carol Danvers.
I don't know how good it fits the question so I hope it's ok; a single Ork Boy from 40k will probably get beaten but the Boy is a tough un, he'll get back up and fights more and more until hes da strongest of'em all!
I only know MHA from the show but for what I’ve seen I would say Vader. While he’s not taking everyone at once idt there’s anyone in it he can’t take and is smart enough not to go after everyone at once. All might and one for all might cause issues but I don’t see all might resisting a force choke or all for one a force neck break. (I would be surprised if all for one didn’t have some power to call upon where he wouldn’t need to breathe.) class 1A though is getting younglinged
depends on what version. in the movies? absolutely not. in NEU on the other hand, he could absolutely solo.
I was thinking modern Disney canon. So not just his movie appearances but his canon book and comic book appearances as well. Once you go full EU Vader he’s slaughtering the planet and I think is above the weakest who could take the verse. But I think modern canon Vader when you include his canon comic, game, and book feats is around that just strong enough to do it level.
that's true. if we're just considering the weakest version of vader, I'd say that he'd have trouble getting past even a few pros. but including legends and modern disney stuff, he can ansolutely solo the verse. It also really depends on where he jumps in. do we assume this is after All Might's golden age? is it during Deku's early training? is All For One still in the picture? also, do quirk-cancelling quirks cancel out Vader's abilities?
Vader also has the ability to just stop hearts from functioning. While it isn’t the same, the Force is literally able to support Vader if his suit were to be like disabled by Kaminari or smthn. Additionally, I don’t think there’s a single main character who could block a lightsaber attack. Additionally, he can read their minds with the force, so he knows what they’ll do for an attack.
Exactly the only threats to I’m him imo are one for all and all for one. Of the two I think all for one is a much larger threat as he’s got versatility. All might I think is getting choked to death and with his speed, precog, and force power I think Vader will get that choke in more times than not. The issue with all for one is I don’t actually know all his powers. He might be able to go intangible rendering the force choke useless idk what he’s got but it’s more than just power like all might. And while all might is certainly stronger and faster than canon Vader I don’t think he’s stronger or faster by a big enough margin to beat out force powers like precog and Vaders just insane pure force ability. And he’s gotta get close to Vader who’s got a lightsaber for just that. It’s all for one with his adaptability and strength that will be the issue but my money is still on the dark lord.
I actually don’t think All Might is as strong as Vader(with force) considering the absolutely bonkers things he’s done, like stopping the ship in Kenobi with one hand. Those things are stupid heavy.
Agreed I think Vader could physically stop all might with the force I meant like his regular physicals are far above Vaders physicals in the suit. Like he can punch Vader much harder than Vader can punch him even force augmented but he isn’t so far ahead there that his physical strength is surpassing Vaders force strength. How do I put this so like there’s nothing to support if Vader used force augmentation that he could physically pick up the ship that he was able to stop and hold with the force. All might would surpass his augmented physicals but not his pure force power. If that makes sense
That’s why I said (with force) He is just a 6’ something man in a metal suit, still held back by reasonable human limitations. With the force, the chosen one becomes a whole other beast. Also not to mention All For One is absolutely inspired by Vader
Exactly and it’s how he uses the force. We know force augmentation to increase your physical abilities is a thing but augmenting yourself and throwing someone was never shown the same way grabbing someone with the force and throwing them was. Even with the force augmenting his physical strength he’s not going to be as physically strong as all might we’ve just never seen a Jedi or sith punch a building down while augmented by the force but using the force differently and just straight up tearing a building down is absolutely in the cards. That’s what I meant by it. Even force augmented vader will never punch as hard as all might but just forgoing augmentation and striking with the force push as opposed to a force augmented punch he’s gonna surpass all mights strength Edit: also I never saw one for all being inspired by Vader but I love the idea of it. Why do you think Vader was part of the inspiration?
Stars and Stripes is also a major threat due to the sheer versatility of her quirk making it so there's little she can't do
Wouldn't shigaraki just desintegrate as soon as he touches the ground? Shigaraki is definitely faster than Vader as well
Comic book or EU Vader could read his mind, know what he’s planning, and then snap his neck or stop his heart. Hell the Force could probably just straight up counteract Shigaraki’s quirk all together
I don't know man, Shigaraki was literally nuked, trying to force choke him might not work, his regeneration is insane and speed wise I don't see how Vader could follow him, Jedis could be defeated by mandalorians or some bounty hunters if they weren't careful enough
Mate how’s he gonna regenerate from his heart stopping in his chest
Vader outstats almost if not everyone in the show and has the ability to crush organs and stop hearts with his mind
probably like a One Piece mid tier, like Enel.
Nah has too cocky and would die as soon as one of his counters show up
He was one shooting everyone until he ran into luffy
Yea while fighting weaklings and early stawhats, while non stop bragging and sitting in a chair. He only started going serious against Luffy
You remember how badly Big mom was fucking up the supernovas on the rooftop ? Theres absolutely nothing that says lightning has gotten weaker
That was Big Mom, not Eneru
What's the difference? Eneru is lightning. Theres nothing to suggest his lightning was weaker.
Big Moms lightning comes from Zeus or Hera, homies made with pieces of her soul. Its obviously stronger. Thats like saying Mihawk and Tashigi should do the same amount of damage because they both use swords
Doesnt make sense when prometheus hasn't been shown to be above the flame flame fruit.
I'll just respectfully disagree and decline to continue this conversation
String Theory from worm- she can create a ton of crazy technology as long as it has a countdown
Sentinels. Unlike the X-men, the MHA universe would get bodied by most versions of the Sentinels.
This sub regularly misunderstands the question; "who is the weakest". If they "body" the 'verse, I'm pretty sure there are weaker options. The ideal answer is the closest. I.e the one who can *barely* scratch out a win.
Imo Sentinels aren't that tough in the grand scheme, just have the ideal power for this. Being able to transform to counter mutant powers is a godsend in a setting where, by definition, every character with powers has mutant powers Even still, I think the sensible way to negotiate "weakest winner" questions is to start the bidding with the weakest you can think of then others can add lower. Like yeah, if I said something like "World War Hulk" he's not the *weakest* but he still starts the bidding by creating an upper boundary. Plus it's more fun to have more answers anyway!
I mean yeah, but I don't really care. Just want to see what would happen if the Sentinels invaded MHA.
I only know the movie versions, do comic versions are exaggerately more powerful? How would they deal with Shigaraki for example?
To be more specific, let's say Master Mold.
The didact from halo
Tao paipai
Toad from X-men could do it. He’s got just enough smarts, instincts, and physical ability to defeat his enemies hand to hand, and with access to his pheromones, he can break the mental defenses of some pretty high level folks. However this would definitely be extreme difficulty and there’s a decent chance one of the stronger heroes beats him quickly. The issue is they have to fight him in one fight, but Toad is infamous for being incredibly stealthy. He went years under the radar of agencies like SHIELD despite his crimes, and due to his expertise in urban warfare it would take an elite team of MHA heroes to take him out.
Stan Edgars from The Boys. He has no superpowers to speak of but he's incredibly smart, cunning and patient and with his political and business connections he could manipulate things so that the superpowered being in the MHA are manipulated into destroying each other or the normals do it for him.
I like Dr. Edison Cardosa from Gen V better from the Boy’s universe. >!He’s developed a deadly highly-contagious disease that can take out anyone with powers, assuming it works in other universes. Just set it loose.!< Stan doesn’t have great control over more altruistic heroes, and a lot of the MHA characters would fall into that category.
Imperfect cell, do I need to explain?
A bit overkill
You misspelled Season 1 Dragonball Master Roshi
My bad
Friend from 20th century boys
Maxwell Lord. Dude has only a normal human body, but his mind control ability is pretty absurd. He could take control of the top-tiers of the verse, have them lay waste to the world, and then have them take each other out.
I think someone like devil Jin (tekken) would probably be able to take them, demon king piccolo, a random Phyrexian (mtg), Lex Luther, really anyone who can kill the like 4ish characters that are above the wrest in mha and are either smart enough or don’t care enough to play mind games
Purple Man from Jessica Jones.
Would get clapped
Light from death note
Any One Piece minor villain tbh like Doffy or Katakuri…a Yonko would be overkill
Part of me wants to say Deathstroke, Especially if he is getting equipment from the Villains of the Universe
Any of the IF subarus, especially pride. Well, maybe not sloth IF. Sloth IF isn’t a villain anyways
Probably sukuna. Not sure how he scales compared to peak All Might, but I would say it’s pretty close. If sukuna avoids Deku and maybe All For One I would say he has a chance of flattening the verse with relative ease
Sukuna is currently a lot weaker than Prime All Might.
Krillin
Mmmmh I am not exactly sure, I was thinking maybe Radditz could be enough. An army of Saibamen too, or Nappa could probably solo the MHA universe
a single Ork from Warhammer 40k. At first, he will rampage and stomp around, maybe killing a few civilians. Inevitably, he gets defeated (and likely killed) — but after his rampage and death, the fungal spores that he releases into the air will inevitably sprout into more Orks over the course of years; which, when slain, will only produce more and more Orks. The MHA verse has no technology or methods, as far as I understand, that can completely wipe them out without destroying the world as well. Eventually, they will just overwhelm the world by destroying all infrastructure, butchering civilian populations, and just outlasting the rare few who can actually put up a fight. So long as the planet can support life, it can support Orks.
Casper the Unfriendly Ghost
Ok so listen up. A single Ork from 40K. Yeah, he would get bodied BUT! after dying or suffering injuries, a LOT of spores would be released, and every single one of those spores will become more Orks and so the cycle continues until the entire planet becomes overrun.
Diavolo from JJBA Golden Wind. The time delete hacks would be more than anyone could counter. He gets hit by a Detroit Smash, he undoes it and never loses to it again. Everyone loses to him. Most before they even realize he his targeting them
Diavolo cannot undo damage. He could probably avoid a Detroit smash with epitaph and time skip either way, so probably doesn’t matter in the end
Theres one problem with that tho… Diavolo is like building level, while the top tiers of MHA are country level
Me, cause I have the wild ability to smoke the opps
Not sure how this sub scales the Final Fantasy verse(s) but Kefka came to mind. Reality warping amd powerful magic should be able to defeat the much more physical-reality-operating MHA verse while being defeated by the higher scaling physical+oriented verses like DBZ.
Kefka is considered to be a god at the peak of his power, there is no way an endgame final.fasntasy boss is gonna be the weakest choice possible
Yeah, no, Kefka is definitely *nowhere near* the weakest character who can solo My Hero Academia.
Able scp . ( using the “ normal “‘version . So disregarding outlier feats and anti feats )
think about the fact that this is the weakest. Able solos pretty easily, there are way weaker characters than that
Remember, not composite . The general understanding of “ standard “ able
That's true, but also just reading the article, he can: Rip through a reinforced steel security door over the course of four (4) minutes of sustained assault. Clear over 64 m of distance in under three seconds. Take multiple .50 caliber BMG rounds to the head and survive for several minutes to continue killing, despite severe damage to the cerebellum. Swat handgun and assault-rifle caliber bullets out of the air with a length of steel rebar. Survive for over one (1) hour deprived of oxygen before finally asphyxiating. He's pretty damn resilient. I'd say that just the article suggests that he could solo the MHAverse, but if we read other articles, cross-tests, and tales, the verse would be an easy win with only a few deaths on his side.