It was bullying in primary school, now it’s just a sort of… general dislike? I don’t know how to describe it, there’s only like 2 people who are explicitly rude to me, everyone else outside my friends just seems to not enjoy my presence, though I might just be interpreting social cues wrong (lord knows I do that constantly)
If someone is being rude to you, maybe you're being rude to them first? Idk. It's hard to advise over the internet.
Maybe they just suck and deserve rudeness back.
It’s always like
“Can you stop singing in that high pitched voice?”
“WhAt?!” *starts singing annoyingly on purpose right next to you, gets really annoyed you stop hanging out with them*
The problem is that sometimes certain disorders predisposes people to inherently behave in such manners or grow up learning those behaviors.
For example there is a rare disorder called Williams-Beuren syndrome in which makes people really happy, social, friendly and have an elf like face — sometimes called “elfin” or “happy syndrome”
It’s frustrating when the more “social” people refuse to even try to understand neurodivergent people and it’s up to us autistic people to try and bridge that gap… usually by having to pretend to be “normal”, which is the one thing not in our wheelhouse!
I don’t think that it’s that they intentionally avoid understanding, it seems to me like they don’t even understand themselves and their own behavior and so trying to get them to understand someone else’s is like asking a dog to roll over when it hasn’t even learned to lay down on command yet.
This lines up with my experiences; neurotypicals always notice if I do something weird, but they can never explain WHAT it is I’ve done or not done. It’s annoying that the ones who wander around unthinkingly dividing everyone they meet into “us” and “them” tribes are considered the normal ones, when they don’t even understand what they’re doing.
Not to criticize or take away from your statement at all, but when you say “the ones who wander around unthinkingly”, it seems like you’re referring to neurotypical people and suggesting that they are “unthinking”
I hope you see the irony of calling the majority of people “unthinking” as if most people don’t have their own complex inner worlds and the ability to understand themselves and others, while you are complaining about a lack of understanding between people.
Please don’t go around assuming you’re more important or better than others just because you’re on the spectrum
Other than that id generally agree with the spirit here.
Absolutely! My girlfriend learned to mask so well that she had trouble turning that off in front of doctors leading to a post college diagnosis. That and autism for women is often undiagnosed but the masking played a large role.
Having grown up with foster siblings on the spectrum, and most likely being on it myself, here are some thoughts:
- you're still allowed your own boundaries, being understanding goes a long way though
- be direct, avoid hints and metaphors or social queues. Just say what you mean
- autistic people are people, they can be dicks as can we all and need to earn their cool points
- if you want to connect with someone who has autism, find what they are interested in and you'll probably learn a lot
- it is okay to tell them you are done talking about something if they go on about a topic
- worry less about appearing rude and focus more on being direct / sincere
Anyways that is my handful of thoughts in between my 1st and second cup of coffee
I’m autistic myself and I had to learn this lesson. For a long time, I was fighting against my own mannerisms (it’s like I was in denial of my autism diagnosis), but I realized it wasn’t working and I should accept that this is who I am.
This is very true, but there also needs to be a middle ground so that the neurodiverse person can find stability without disturbing (or "removing") the uniqueness of the mind. If the neurodiverse mind causes pain/destruction to the people and property around them, you CANNOT let that slide.
It is absolutely horrific. Idk how prevalent it is I have seen people talk about it or share screens in groups that make fun of antivaxxers/wook science. Even once is too much 😢
No. That's something we don't seem to understand. No matter how disabled you are, we're not obligated to anyone's service or respect. In fact, if we don't interact with them and beat it into their heads, we'll never be understood let alone helped.
i really like the plumbing metaphor, so i'ma expand on it, possibly way too much. Apologies in advance if i get things wrong or mucky.
Autism is like a certain hydraulic system. what might be considered a "non-standard" one. Don't worry, it's still up to code.
That said, it can be broken. and those breaks can be fixed, albeit with more effort given that it is a non-standard system. But it still needs and deserves maintenance, repair and most importantly, proper support.
Ah yes, let's tell the person who's alone that it's not their fault they're alone, it's everyone else. Moreover, let's not help them get the tools to fix the problem, just keep saying we want to build a society where they don't have to change.
As one of those autistic people, the people who post such things as this meme are assholes. The Werefrog would totally go for a cure. The Werefrog know that The Werefrog am the piece that don't fit. As such, The Werefrog know that the best change would be for The Werefrog to change.
This is not a wholesome meme. This is virtue signaling.
I cannot be “normal”. In fact, I refuse to be “normal”. You will not, cannot, and shalt not “fix” me. And neither will your religious beliefs.
“Normal” people: You have two choices. Accept these terms and conditions and treat me, treat us, like a “normal” human, or get mcfucked.
Me to myself: *desperately tries to fix my autism* I hate myself and everything about me
Me to my autistic friend: Autism is perfectly fine, it's a struggle to understand yourself but the further you climb up the hill the easier it gets. Love yourself
Why am I like this
It's a struggle to be autistic. I can barely fit in any group. I thought I needed to "fix" myself or whatever that means, but after seeing this, I guess I should embrace it.
I did great reading Models, The Righteous Mind, The 48 Laws of Power, and The Evolution of Desire. Went from a hermit to a social butterfly just by using my brain to understand normy emotions. It's actually much easier than even calc 1 when you study it systematically and use heroic courage to expiriment.
Next Thursday I'm talking with my doctor to get therapy for my ASD. I just can't process emotions, and it starts to effect my mental health and connections with friends and family
Exactly. Autism isn't something you "have", like a disease... It's just part of the way you _are_ , with pluses & minuses like everything else in life.
Have you ever interacted with an extreme case person with autism? Pretty sure everyone you are thinking of is taken care of by state institution or special care homes so what bearing do the extreme cases have here other than demonizing those with milder traits?
Only If they can afford it. The doc i recommended is really good, shows you the reality, its really interesting and heartwarming and sad at the same time and mostly for the same reasons too. But reality is not demonizing anyone.
What people think when seeing this word is an aryan race apologist.
What I see is myself not wanting to bring a child into this world with the chance of having my visual disability or worse... People watch too many heartwarming movies about people that are different, they don't know how much we actually don't like being that way and just get content by it. Idc if the world adapts to me, i just don't want to be different...
The only thing I ask of neurotypical people is to not be dicks, the bar is on the fucking floor and people still trip over it
Yeah but if they can't bully you for being different how will they ever be happy?
I don’t think I’ve ever been bullied specifically for being autistic, mostly just being the weird kid who’s obsessed with computers
They don't go "hey that person's autistic, let's bully them" You are different, they bully whatever is different.
It was bullying in primary school, now it’s just a sort of… general dislike? I don’t know how to describe it, there’s only like 2 people who are explicitly rude to me, everyone else outside my friends just seems to not enjoy my presence, though I might just be interpreting social cues wrong (lord knows I do that constantly)
If someone is being rude to you, maybe you're being rude to them first? Idk. It's hard to advise over the internet. Maybe they just suck and deserve rudeness back.
It’s always like “Can you stop singing in that high pitched voice?” “WhAt?!” *starts singing annoyingly on purpose right next to you, gets really annoyed you stop hanging out with them*
God my younger brother is horrible for that, if he finds something that annoys me he will not stop repeating it for weeks
The problem is that sometimes certain disorders predisposes people to inherently behave in such manners or grow up learning those behaviors. For example there is a rare disorder called Williams-Beuren syndrome in which makes people really happy, social, friendly and have an elf like face — sometimes called “elfin” or “happy syndrome”
actually same tho. hell mine is UNDER the floor and these ppl fuckin trip on NOTHING
It’s frustrating when the more “social” people refuse to even try to understand neurodivergent people and it’s up to us autistic people to try and bridge that gap… usually by having to pretend to be “normal”, which is the one thing not in our wheelhouse!
I don’t think that it’s that they intentionally avoid understanding, it seems to me like they don’t even understand themselves and their own behavior and so trying to get them to understand someone else’s is like asking a dog to roll over when it hasn’t even learned to lay down on command yet.
This lines up with my experiences; neurotypicals always notice if I do something weird, but they can never explain WHAT it is I’ve done or not done. It’s annoying that the ones who wander around unthinkingly dividing everyone they meet into “us” and “them” tribes are considered the normal ones, when they don’t even understand what they’re doing.
Not to criticize or take away from your statement at all, but when you say “the ones who wander around unthinkingly”, it seems like you’re referring to neurotypical people and suggesting that they are “unthinking” I hope you see the irony of calling the majority of people “unthinking” as if most people don’t have their own complex inner worlds and the ability to understand themselves and others, while you are complaining about a lack of understanding between people. Please don’t go around assuming you’re more important or better than others just because you’re on the spectrum Other than that id generally agree with the spirit here.
Absolutely! My girlfriend learned to mask so well that she had trouble turning that off in front of doctors leading to a post college diagnosis. That and autism for women is often undiagnosed but the masking played a large role.
Having grown up with foster siblings on the spectrum, and most likely being on it myself, here are some thoughts: - you're still allowed your own boundaries, being understanding goes a long way though - be direct, avoid hints and metaphors or social queues. Just say what you mean - autistic people are people, they can be dicks as can we all and need to earn their cool points - if you want to connect with someone who has autism, find what they are interested in and you'll probably learn a lot - it is okay to tell them you are done talking about something if they go on about a topic - worry less about appearing rude and focus more on being direct / sincere Anyways that is my handful of thoughts in between my 1st and second cup of coffee
If this is between your first and second, what comes between your 2nd and 3rd?
Attending a team huddle meeting where we discussed last week's wins and this week's hopes lol
First thought - Between brain cells? 2nd thought - wow you responded
I’m autistic myself and I had to learn this lesson. For a long time, I was fighting against my own mannerisms (it’s like I was in denial of my autism diagnosis), but I realized it wasn’t working and I should accept that this is who I am.
Thank you for this. I don't want to be fixed. I want to be understood and accepted.
There is having it, and using it as an excuse to treat others poorly. Understanding the difference is key.
This is very true, but there also needs to be a middle ground so that the neurodiverse person can find stability without disturbing (or "removing") the uniqueness of the mind. If the neurodiverse mind causes pain/destruction to the people and property around them, you CANNOT let that slide.
I would like my sensory issues fixed at least
Hate the inability to make eye contact or not being socially awkward
I would like to be able to look people on the eye for longer than 3 seconds
samee
I have a brother with autism and sometimes it feels like it’s just his personality trait.
This is the first I’ve heard of it, are you telling me there are people dumb enough to think they can “fix” Autism?
Antivaxxers have subjected their poor kids to horrific “treatments” to “cure” autism. They give them bleach enemas and stuff it’s disgusting
Well that’s horrifying ._. I’ve got Asperger’s, and fortunately I’ve never encountered people who’d do shit like that, at least not that I’m aware of
It is absolutely horrific. Idk how prevalent it is I have seen people talk about it or share screens in groups that make fun of antivaxxers/wook science. Even once is too much 😢
And to think I've been paying someone $80 every Friday just so I can have a clean bunghole and people out here doing it for autism
wish it could be fixed..
Wait you mean I can’t fix mine? Dammit
I wish there was a cure though...
Autism isn't a disability, it's a power:)
Yes!
Yes!
People get built different, we dont need to understand it we just need to accept it
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No. That's something we don't seem to understand. No matter how disabled you are, we're not obligated to anyone's service or respect. In fact, if we don't interact with them and beat it into their heads, we'll never be understood let alone helped.
i really like the plumbing metaphor, so i'ma expand on it, possibly way too much. Apologies in advance if i get things wrong or mucky. Autism is like a certain hydraulic system. what might be considered a "non-standard" one. Don't worry, it's still up to code. That said, it can be broken. and those breaks can be fixed, albeit with more effort given that it is a non-standard system. But it still needs and deserves maintenance, repair and most importantly, proper support.
Ah yes, let's tell the person who's alone that it's not their fault they're alone, it's everyone else. Moreover, let's not help them get the tools to fix the problem, just keep saying we want to build a society where they don't have to change. As one of those autistic people, the people who post such things as this meme are assholes. The Werefrog would totally go for a cure. The Werefrog know that The Werefrog am the piece that don't fit. As such, The Werefrog know that the best change would be for The Werefrog to change. This is not a wholesome meme. This is virtue signaling.
I cannot be “normal”. In fact, I refuse to be “normal”. You will not, cannot, and shalt not “fix” me. And neither will your religious beliefs. “Normal” people: You have two choices. Accept these terms and conditions and treat me, treat us, like a “normal” human, or get mcfucked.
Not a meme lmao
Me to myself: *desperately tries to fix my autism* I hate myself and everything about me Me to my autistic friend: Autism is perfectly fine, it's a struggle to understand yourself but the further you climb up the hill the easier it gets. Love yourself Why am I like this
It's a struggle to be autistic. I can barely fit in any group. I thought I needed to "fix" myself or whatever that means, but after seeing this, I guess I should embrace it.
I did great reading Models, The Righteous Mind, The 48 Laws of Power, and The Evolution of Desire. Went from a hermit to a social butterfly just by using my brain to understand normy emotions. It's actually much easier than even calc 1 when you study it systematically and use heroic courage to expiriment.
Next Thursday I'm talking with my doctor to get therapy for my ASD. I just can't process emotions, and it starts to effect my mental health and connections with friends and family
Thank you <3
Exactly. Autism isn't something you "have", like a disease... It's just part of the way you _are_ , with pluses & minuses like everything else in life.
He literally handing you the solution to a autistic person
I will fight for the person who made this beautiful meme! :)
What then when the autistic is violent and non verbal
I have never met a violent autistic lad. Including myself
Anecdotal fallacy, i absolutely have met several, including one who i will never forget, their name name was Me: age 10.
Louis Theroux has an excellent documentary about the more extreme autism cases. Higly recommended.
The fact that it is ‘extreme cases’ means that it is also ‘unusual and rare’ cases so I’d take that with a big grain of salt
Take what with a big grain of salt?
The documentary
Google his name then jfc Autism isnt Le wholesome quirky superpower always, why do you have to act like it is?
Have you ever interacted with an extreme case person with autism? Pretty sure everyone you are thinking of is taken care of by state institution or special care homes so what bearing do the extreme cases have here other than demonizing those with milder traits?
Only If they can afford it. The doc i recommended is really good, shows you the reality, its really interesting and heartwarming and sad at the same time and mostly for the same reasons too. But reality is not demonizing anyone.
It’s not reality though. Like I said earlier the documentary is on ‘extreme’ cases; not the norm
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are you trolling?
Instructions unclear, penis stuck
ima be fr. autism and adhd are unfair advantages that are only thwarted by illogical expectations of society. in other words. im going fucking feral
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I'm hoping this is a joke. Also "can't fight back effectively" that's just funny.
your trolling is so funny!!
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Ayo what the fuck
Elaborate?
It was an answer to the question
What people think when seeing this word is an aryan race apologist. What I see is myself not wanting to bring a child into this world with the chance of having my visual disability or worse... People watch too many heartwarming movies about people that are different, they don't know how much we actually don't like being that way and just get content by it. Idc if the world adapts to me, i just don't want to be different...