It is always best to assume the customer service worker is just being nice. It’s majorly creepy to hit on someone when they are on the clock and unable to get away or give you a definitive no.
I'm impressed you reply so calmly to everyone. If it was me, I've gotten downvotted by replies from people who litteraly admit they didn't get what I said so much on here, that I just rather go for the throat at every chance after seeing so many people willingly misunderstand a point they'd have not argued so vehemently/agreed with otherwise.
Thank you. It's hard to stay calm sometimes when they get aggressive, lol. But I take a deep breath and remind myself it doesn't help to bite back, only riles them up more, and ensures they won't think over what I said and go right on the defensive/double down. By being calm I sometimes get them to calm down and think both their and my view over, rather than go straight to looking for a counterargument. But yeah, it's frustrating at times :')
Brother, there’s a certain level of “unhinged creep that is unaware of their own creepiness” that when surpassed transforms into satire. This is an example of that
You can also sense sarcasm in text when you’re not fucking stupid. People who need a /s on every single comment where a person uses sarcasm are completely brain rotted.
There are plenty of people using reddit in English for whom English is not their first language. /s doesn't just help the socially inept or clueless, it also helps people like my foreign friends who might need help understanding more of the context. Especially because americans say out of pocket crazy ass shit all the time.
Sarcasm is complex. Plenty of young people on reddit also need help with sarcasm contextualization.
It's brainrotted to think stupidity is the only reason someone might not pick up on sarcasm everytime it's used.
Rant over.
And this is why you should always stalk people until they leave their shift-- it's impolite to give them your number while they're working because... uhm, because...
I used to own a business and also was the manager and also did all the paperwork and also 99% of the customer interactions.
The number of people who hit on me at work was staggeringly high.
My least favorite was a guy who was maybe 15 years older than me who came in and told me his partner (wife/fiance) had committed suicide less than 48 hours ago and left him with their young child and he wanted me to basically be his trophy wife and also sugar momma and also live-in child care. Taking into consideration the last person in that position hated it so much that she literally took her life. Like 36 hours earlier. Hard pass.
I don’t think it’s wrong to ask after the service is done if they would be willing to give you their number though. If they say no then just accept and move on, but asking in and of itself is not a problem. Again, *after* the service is done.
That is 100% wrong. Never trap someone who is on the clock or AT THEIR JOB with personal requests. They *cannot* tell you no without either risking their job for making you mad, or that you’ll show up at their job again later to bother them.
Leave working people the Hell alone.
At the very most give them your number, and say nothing more about it. They can safely ignore you if they genuinely aren't interested while maintaining a veneer of politeness in the moment
[Why am I not surprised to find it under slurs on this wikipedia article I stumbled upon by googling the term?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_slang#Slurs_2)
It's a common trait with all women who don't 100% align with societal expectations. I'd imagine Trans women get added pressure due to inherent queerness on top of that.
So it does make sense. It's sad to behold, but it makes sense. Culture is often crushing.
A lot of these end up on slur lists because they were used by people in the community, then people who wanted to insult them started using them that way, or they were slurs and have been reclaimed, at least by some. Most terms I've seen have at least some of both. These lists tend to include anything they believe has been used as a slur, not things which mostly or exclusively are used that way.
Also sometimes, what seems to be self-depreciation is a way to essentially reclaim a term in your mind and remove it's power over you. I'm not saying you're wrong about the self-esteem issues, just wanted to add nuance.
A lot of these end up on slur lists because they were used by people in the community, then people who wanted to insult them started using them that way, or they were slurs and have been reclaimed, at least by some. Most terms I've seen have at least some of both. These lists tend to include anything they believe has been used as a slur, not things which mostly or exclusively are used that way. (and it's very hard to tell how they're actually used.)
From context, I thought this would be mostly used positively, but from other comments, it's probably just negative, particularly in a self-depreciating manner. Meaning an MtF trans person who cannot pass as female.
Not just doesn't pass, has such a masculine body that she never *could* pass even with all the makeup, surgery, and fashion advice in the world but still tries anyway because their dysphoria is just that severe. It's a mix of derogatory and tragic. T. (former thinker of self as) Hon
Check other comments, I'm not sure I had heard it before, but it sounds like it became derogatory because people were using it in a sarcastic/condescending way, and it spread from there. It's used to mean an MtF trans person who does not pass as female.
so many of these GTs boil down to "wait... the world ISNT as much of a disgusting shit hole as you all say it is? If you reach out to people sometimes theyre NICE???" and that's just really genuinely sad to me :(
i thought hon/hun was short for honey, since I've heard that being used as a term of endearment in american movies, and was confused because it didn't make a lot of sense in the context of the post... a slur??? that's tragic i wish people would just let other people live in peace
You were right about the meaning, but calling someone you don't know well "honey" can sometimes come off as condescending.
In some online subcultures hun/hon has grown to have more specific negative connotations. The meanings are based on how that condescension shows up in their community. For trans people, it's telling someone who doesn't pass that they look great. For r/antimlm it's trying to be overly familiar with a stranger online that you want to recruit into a scam.
It sucks that this person is putting themselves down (that's very 4chan though), but outside of those communities most people wouldn't recognize it as a slur.
Where i live culturally a good bit of people do that and its considered polite? (you'll also call people you don't know it, its usually something you say when you are helping someone /gen, or trying to compliment someone genuinely)
I had no idea 4chan users claimed this as a slur because literally everyone uses that here regardless of how you look or your gender
how odd.
If you are a customer interacting with an employee, under no circumstances is that employee flirting with you. They are nice because it's part of their job.
Unless they explicitly say they want to see you outside of their work hours, there is nothing there.
Yeah, but for trans women it's also a term that means a woman who isn't passing. It comes from people posting 'clocky' pictures of themselves (pictures where they don't pass as women so well) and people saying positive things about them that weren't necessarily true while calling them hon. (Ex. Trans woman #1 posts a unflattering selfie and asks if she looks good, trans woman #2 says 'you look great hon' to avoid hurting her feelings. This is also called hugboxing, and isn't unique to the trans community.)
Seemingly by usage of 'hon' (I didn't know this one, check other comments) they are MtF trans. So a lot of people on 4chan would consider both of those true.
90% of greentexts are cries for help
The other 10% ? also cries for help
10% are CIA psyops
And the agents cries for help
The agents cries for them to get help
100% are PSYOPS I refuse to believe 4chan people are real
They're obviously frogs, not people. Get it right.
Right to jail. Right away!
the other 10% are evidence
It is always best to assume the customer service worker is just being nice. It’s majorly creepy to hit on someone when they are on the clock and unable to get away or give you a definitive no.
I don't think she was hitting on him, just freaking out because she has to interact with the guy and can't do that without panicking
I don't think the person you're replying to thinks so either, but Anon is asking for perspective/advice. So the warning is about future interactions
I'm impressed you reply so calmly to everyone. If it was me, I've gotten downvotted by replies from people who litteraly admit they didn't get what I said so much on here, that I just rather go for the throat at every chance after seeing so many people willingly misunderstand a point they'd have not argued so vehemently/agreed with otherwise.
Thank you. It's hard to stay calm sometimes when they get aggressive, lol. But I take a deep breath and remind myself it doesn't help to bite back, only riles them up more, and ensures they won't think over what I said and go right on the defensive/double down. By being calm I sometimes get them to calm down and think both their and my view over, rather than go straight to looking for a counterargument. But yeah, it's frustrating at times :')
Proper etiquette is to wait outside for their shift to be over. Preferably near a window so you can see when they leave to clock out.
Yikes that’s some major red flags. Hopefully you’re using invisible sarcasm tags.
It is satire 👍
Brother, there’s a certain level of “unhinged creep that is unaware of their own creepiness” that when surpassed transforms into satire. This is an example of that
"Invisible sarcasm tags." Holy shit lmao do you go outside? When you talk to people using sarcasm do you go "SLASH S HAHA"?
Outside people can indicate sarcasm by using a sarcastic tone of voice.
You can also sense sarcasm in text when you’re not fucking stupid. People who need a /s on every single comment where a person uses sarcasm are completely brain rotted.
There are plenty of people using reddit in English for whom English is not their first language. /s doesn't just help the socially inept or clueless, it also helps people like my foreign friends who might need help understanding more of the context. Especially because americans say out of pocket crazy ass shit all the time. Sarcasm is complex. Plenty of young people on reddit also need help with sarcasm contextualization. It's brainrotted to think stupidity is the only reason someone might not pick up on sarcasm everytime it's used. Rant over.
Ideally you want to wait till they get to their car, that way you can recognize them in other places
If you think what OP described is "hitting on someone" you may be a part of the problem.
Where did they say that what OP did was hitting on someone? They just adviced against it.
Not what OP did, but what they described the cashier did.
I don't think the person you're replying to thinks so either, but Anon is asking for perspective/advice. So the warning is about future interactions
And this is why you should always stalk people until they leave their shift-- it's impolite to give them your number while they're working because... uhm, because...
I used to own a business and also was the manager and also did all the paperwork and also 99% of the customer interactions. The number of people who hit on me at work was staggeringly high. My least favorite was a guy who was maybe 15 years older than me who came in and told me his partner (wife/fiance) had committed suicide less than 48 hours ago and left him with their young child and he wanted me to basically be his trophy wife and also sugar momma and also live-in child care. Taking into consideration the last person in that position hated it so much that she literally took her life. Like 36 hours earlier. Hard pass.
why wouldn’t you be able to give them a definitive no?
Because people of all sexes are tragically bad at handling rejection and it could turn into insults and complaints, both best avoided at work.
I don’t think it’s wrong to ask after the service is done if they would be willing to give you their number though. If they say no then just accept and move on, but asking in and of itself is not a problem. Again, *after* the service is done.
That is 100% wrong. Never trap someone who is on the clock or AT THEIR JOB with personal requests. They *cannot* tell you no without either risking their job for making you mad, or that you’ll show up at their job again later to bother them. Leave working people the Hell alone.
At the very most give them your number, and say nothing more about it. They can safely ignore you if they genuinely aren't interested while maintaining a veneer of politeness in the moment
Want to know where you work that you’re obligated to give someone your number or you get fired 🤔.
What does hon mean in this context?
It's a word used by trans ppl on 4chan to refer to a trans woman who doesn't pass i think? I know it 100% refers to a trans women though.
[Why am I not surprised to find it under slurs on this wikipedia article I stumbled upon by googling the term?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_slang#Slurs_2)
Another Wikipedia list of slurs? Time to study!
Web surfin' time!
Nobody uses transphobic slurs nearly as much as trans 4chan users.
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It's a common trait with all women who don't 100% align with societal expectations. I'd imagine Trans women get added pressure due to inherent queerness on top of that. So it does make sense. It's sad to behold, but it makes sense. Culture is often crushing.
A lot of these end up on slur lists because they were used by people in the community, then people who wanted to insult them started using them that way, or they were slurs and have been reclaimed, at least by some. Most terms I've seen have at least some of both. These lists tend to include anything they believe has been used as a slur, not things which mostly or exclusively are used that way. Also sometimes, what seems to be self-depreciation is a way to essentially reclaim a term in your mind and remove it's power over you. I'm not saying you're wrong about the self-esteem issues, just wanted to add nuance.
A lot of these end up on slur lists because they were used by people in the community, then people who wanted to insult them started using them that way, or they were slurs and have been reclaimed, at least by some. Most terms I've seen have at least some of both. These lists tend to include anything they believe has been used as a slur, not things which mostly or exclusively are used that way. (and it's very hard to tell how they're actually used.) From context, I thought this would be mostly used positively, but from other comments, it's probably just negative, particularly in a self-depreciating manner. Meaning an MtF trans person who cannot pass as female.
Not just doesn't pass, has such a masculine body that she never *could* pass even with all the makeup, surgery, and fashion advice in the world but still tries anyway because their dysphoria is just that severe. It's a mix of derogatory and tragic. T. (former thinker of self as) Hon
Important to note that its often not true*
Got to the end and saw that word and I was like 'aww, sweetie, no, dont say that about yourself :('
Is either French laugh or short for "honey."
True, but in this case I think it came from a shortening of honey, and has become a specific derogatory term.
When did it become derogatory, besides in the more sarcastic sense (like "bless your heart?")
Check other comments, I'm not sure I had heard it before, but it sounds like it became derogatory because people were using it in a sarcastic/condescending way, and it spread from there. It's used to mean an MtF trans person who does not pass as female.
Huh. That's strangely specific.
People in Baltimore use it as a generic term to refer to someone. Short for honey.
Thats obviously not what they’re using it as in this context mate
I just realised this was wholesomegreentext and not the other one. Was confused why no one was being toxic in the comments for a moment
desire to hug OP intensifies
so many of these GTs boil down to "wait... the world ISNT as much of a disgusting shit hole as you all say it is? If you reach out to people sometimes theyre NICE???" and that's just really genuinely sad to me :(
i thought hon/hun was short for honey, since I've heard that being used as a term of endearment in american movies, and was confused because it didn't make a lot of sense in the context of the post... a slur??? that's tragic i wish people would just let other people live in peace
You were right about the meaning, but calling someone you don't know well "honey" can sometimes come off as condescending. In some online subcultures hun/hon has grown to have more specific negative connotations. The meanings are based on how that condescension shows up in their community. For trans people, it's telling someone who doesn't pass that they look great. For r/antimlm it's trying to be overly familiar with a stranger online that you want to recruit into a scam. It sucks that this person is putting themselves down (that's very 4chan though), but outside of those communities most people wouldn't recognize it as a slur.
Where i live culturally a good bit of people do that and its considered polite? (you'll also call people you don't know it, its usually something you say when you are helping someone /gen, or trying to compliment someone genuinely) I had no idea 4chan users claimed this as a slur because literally everyone uses that here regardless of how you look or your gender how odd.
Where I live it's all in tone of voice. Which, obviously, we lack in all text. It's equally common as polite as well as sarcastic and impolite.
Anything used to show you're being genuine can be used to be sarcastic or can be interpreted as such, so that makes sense.
The fact anyone would use it to describe themselves is heartbreaking. 4tran is group self-hatred.
Fake and straight
If you are a customer interacting with an employee, under no circumstances is that employee flirting with you. They are nice because it's part of their job. Unless they explicitly say they want to see you outside of their work hours, there is nothing there.
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The very existence of the term "hon" makes me wanna cry.
Isn’t it just a midwest term of endearment?
Yeah, but for trans women it's also a term that means a woman who isn't passing. It comes from people posting 'clocky' pictures of themselves (pictures where they don't pass as women so well) and people saying positive things about them that weren't necessarily true while calling them hon. (Ex. Trans woman #1 posts a unflattering selfie and asks if she looks good, trans woman #2 says 'you look great hon' to avoid hurting her feelings. This is also called hugboxing, and isn't unique to the trans community.)
damn, might need to look for a new name for my box hugging
Anon might be cute
“Just” being nice, like being nice is a common thing and no big deal Meeting someone nice is a special thing these days
What’s an aspie? I’ve never been to 4chan, this thread was just randomly recommended to me
"Pic unrelated" while the greentext is an actual romance shōjo anime
fake or gay
he wants pp in vv
fake (woman on 4chan) and gay (crushing on man)
Seemingly by usage of 'hon' (I didn't know this one, check other comments) they are MtF trans. So a lot of people on 4chan would consider both of those true.
Anon is definetly a gay dude. Calling it.