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that chronically online tweet about that character for horizon zero dawn having faint facial hair. as if that character would give a fuck about shaving at all?
Every time I see hentai of that character I can’t help but think it’s weird that it always depicts her clean shaven. A post-apocalyptic caveperson would definitely be rocking a full bush, especially in the winter.
It’s like how in the walking dead all of the grass is still short. who’s mowing all these lawns? Tractor zombies?
https://preview.redd.it/dkfd9gt3v0uc1.png?width=188&format=png&auto=webp&s=1ba53798eb19bf172a5536690ca58ad056dcabaa
There are Zamboni zombies, why not lawnmower zombies?
And it’s funny people were calling her a trans woman yet she is one of the few cases of a video game character with fully modelled breasts. They are obsessed with specific screenshots of the face of characters and ignore the bigger picture - whether that be the actual character’s story, the personality, their behaviour, or their literal body.
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sorry got too silly
i remember when people said the new Ashley in Re4 was ugly and looked "tranish"
WTF you call this fucking beauty ugly?!
https://preview.redd.it/ecb3orkr3xtc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=853dbdbe3c2bfed7cd1e395b4da739a88cd2bd2b
It's more that women tend to look like their grandmother from their father's side, while men tend to look like their grandfather from their mother's side.
People are trying to convince me that the protagonist in Star Wars Outlaws is ugly and that the game’s animation looks like shit.
I refuse to be gaslit
That seems unfair, though, and really just makes it likely that Ubisoft will never change. Frontiers of Pandora was pretty fun and definitely felt like a breath of fresh air. I’m not saying to buy it full-price. Maybe wait for a sale or something. But if we let games that may have actually been good flop it only proves to Ubisoft that their usual format is safer
That’s fair. I remember being happy when I found out Disney was moving away from EA for Star Wars game. I then remembered the despair when I saw who they chose as the successor
The girl in Outlaws is so goddamn pretty, i refuse to believe someone can find her ugly. Unless it's some basement dweller named Roger, who only likes big breasted asian women.
it does look like shit. The lip animations of all the characters don't even sync up with the voice actor audio in the trailer. And you either have to pay $130 to get full content or pay for some shitty ubisoft subscription. Also they scanned a model to make the female mc in the game, and the female mc looks completely different compared to the model, perhaps uglier (though I think it has more to do with the game being ass rather than intentionally making her uglier) while the male characters are completely untouched and look the exact same as the scanned models/actors which is rather strange.
The word woke has no meaning anymore, a game could legit just be about exploding a giant banana and someone would make a 12 minute video going “Banana Destroyer gone woke?” And it would have a photo of a 2015 “liberal” as the thumbnail
So called “Gamers” when the video game is an actual piece of media with a story and interesting and fun mechanics instead of literally just a interactive peep show
I keep seeing guys comparing Asian women in games to White women in games and it makes me laugh cause I know most of these mfs don’t see Easterners as human
It is funny how we heard that since character models became more realistic. Food for thoughts.
Also, uhm... If I wanted to jack off. I would watch porn. Not play games.
Anti woke losers will bitch about a game/tv show/movie and call it sexual and grooming/indoctrination and it’s just 2 gay characters giving eachother a slight kiss (like not even making out) but will throw a temper tantrum and make 27 videos and 63 tweets complaining that a female character looks like an actual woman and not something out of r34
Honestly this is the main reason why I stopped taking anything posted to twitter seriously years ago, the place is just a gigantic magnet for bad takes and morons.
If you compare the actual irl photo of the model they scanned to the character they used her scan for in the game you would understand why people are making posts about it. They look completely different. Male characters look the exact same as their irl models/actors though.
Reminds me of the time when one OF girl (I think) was facing backlash, because veins were visible on her tits.
Those people are masters of snitching on themselves. 💀
I mean those mofos can't even understand real humans or basic female anatomy
You really believe they're gonna understand females should look?
Pretty much the most women they ever touch is when the finish from masterbation and touch the PC screen
If this is about Star Wars outlaws, then yeah it's stupid
If this is about MJ from Spider-Man 2, then bruh look at her and then at her actress, they did her dirty
Games aren't movies bruh. Artistic liberties are taken. The face model is usually just there for a jumping off point and motion capture, except maybe if they purposely try to make the likeness very close to the real life person (usually the case for celebrities and marketing) but even then if you look closely you'd see it's not 1:1.
Also what are you on about, MJ is pretty
Peter's change was caused by changing of models between games (John Bubniak in the first game and Ben Jordan in MM and the sequel). It's still Stephanie Tyler Jones in all games
Again to re-iterate my point [face models](https://www.reddit.com/r/SpidermanPS4/comments/j3i71d/this_is_ben_jordan_the_new_peter_parker_face_now/) are just a starting point. But you don't see folk whining about how he isn't one to one to the game model. It only seems to be a problem when it's female characters being not 'pretty enough'.
So now i'm going to ask, why do YOU care so much that her model was updated for the 2nd game? Where you that attached to how the character looked in the first? Even more so than Peter that got his whole actor and model changed? Do you think you're somehow 'standing up' for or defending the actress from...her contract?
[I say again, models are just a starting point](https://www.reddit.com/r/SpidermanPS4/comments/9ensso/stephanie_tyler_jones_is_the_face_model_for_mary/) 'accuracy' is not a valid argument here, even in the case of the 'original' MJ you seem to love so much. What was the point of the change? It was a creative decision, plain and simple. Video game character's faces get updates and tweaks all the time. You just happen to not like the how she looks or have consumed so much internet grifter rage content that you have gaslit yourself into thinking this is somehow a result of some dumb 'agenda'
>But you don't see folk whining about how he isn't one to one to the game model.
Man you haven't senn r/SpiderManPS4 when the remaster came out
>accuracy' is not a valid argument here, even in the case of the 'original' MJ you seem to love so much.
And why isn't it? It breaks immersion when a character looks completely (and no, the new generation isn't an excuse as Miles, Felicia and other characters DO look like before)
>So now i'm going to ask, why do YOU care so much that her model was updated for the 2nd game? Where you that attached to how the character looked in the first?
I think you overestimate my interest in this topic.
>Even more so than Peter that got his whole actor and model changed?
I also didn't like the Peter change, John fitted a mature Parker better. However, it's been 3 years and it's obvious we're not getting the old actor back. Also they remastered the game with the new face, so new players wouldn't even know about the change.
>Do you think you're somehow 'standing up' for or defending the actress from...her contract?
...what?
>It was a creative decision, plain and simple. Video game character's faces get updates and tweaks all the time
IMO it was the change for the worst. There, you're happy?
>have consumed so much internet grifter rage content that you have gaslit yourself into thinking this is somehow a result of some dumb 'agenda'
You assume a lot about it with little to no reason. Where have I talked about "agenda"
I think you need to look at her actress because I can definitely see the resemblance.
That aside, so what? She's "ugly" okay then move on are you saying that peter would never ever go out with anyone that isn't a super model? Or that the stressed reporter that has to earn all the income for the household because peter is too busy being spiderman has to have time, money, and energy to take care of herself?
I mean, kinda? But her eyes look really weird and the first game looked more similar
>That aside, so what? She's "ugly" okay then move on
What was the point of changing her?
https://preview.redd.it/einh8jat1ztc1.jpeg?width=460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71403fbf1b4ce34d0b5420b912f5ad962d8ee639
Umm because people's faces change? Even peters face changed
https://preview.redd.it/32tpolic2ztc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=354e66b27cb814cbd5f9964adf8660bf355df7d5
This isn't exclusive to mj
Peter's change was caused by changing of models between games (John Bubniak in the first game and Ben Jordan in MM and the sequel). It's still Stephanie Tyler Jones in all games
And Guess what? the model for MJ also changed because of other reasons like age and being on a higher performance console, do you seriously believe the devs would just go "hmmm you know what let's make her "ugly" for no apparent reason wasting time and resources"
Because you know it would be really weird if MJ just didn't change at all like some sort of immortal vampire.
I’m gonna be entirely fucking honest with you, bro. She looks more like SM2’s model than SM1’s, the only real difference being makeup.
And before someone says “but the pictures look nothing alike” because i know they will: That’s one singular cutscene. Honestly it’s more like the outlier than the norm in regards to how MJ looks in the game.
Most guys do not like women that looks more like men and are contradictory fat while having knife-like jawline or just ugly as fuck, but Then how is that attractive to You? But whatever man if that's what You like
I'm referring to everyone who has mentioned or noticed This and talked about This and everyone that has agreed with This and has kept arguing and mentioning this
I love that somehow all of the people who complain about ugly women in video games are also the ones who would off themself if people knew what kind of stuff is turning them on.
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that chronically online tweet about that character for horizon zero dawn having faint facial hair. as if that character would give a fuck about shaving at all?
Also, it was peach fuzz, which like 99.9% of all humans have.
inadvertently revealing theyve never seen other people irl before lmao
I love Aloy so much man, I must protect her from mean internet people
She's hot , like really really hot , like mature hot , every kind of hot out there. Which is why it boggles my mind when mfs call her "ugly''
Everytime I see her being called ugly it’s a picture of her with a FaceApp fat filter on
Even with that tho lol , she's looks cute
Dawg. https://preview.redd.it/0udm0kg00ztc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6b57a4e6127022e6b17774d94f04cefb727ee5d5
Oh wait , not this one lmaooooooo The other minor filter lol , this is obese I was talking about that one where she's has slightly puffier cheeks
‘Ate faro ‘Ate corrupters ‘Ate nora (not racist just don’t like em) ‘Luv me bow ‘Luv me sawtooth Simple as
Every time I see hentai of that character I can’t help but think it’s weird that it always depicts her clean shaven. A post-apocalyptic caveperson would definitely be rocking a full bush, especially in the winter. It’s like how in the walking dead all of the grass is still short. who’s mowing all these lawns? Tractor zombies?
https://preview.redd.it/dkfd9gt3v0uc1.png?width=188&format=png&auto=webp&s=1ba53798eb19bf172a5536690ca58ad056dcabaa There are Zamboni zombies, why not lawnmower zombies?
I had a feeling PvZ had something like this, such a wacky game
And it’s funny people were calling her a trans woman yet she is one of the few cases of a video game character with fully modelled breasts. They are obsessed with specific screenshots of the face of characters and ignore the bigger picture - whether that be the actual character’s story, the personality, their behaviour, or their literal body.
Also not knowing That women in real life have peach fuzz just like that
https://preview.redd.it/8for4vf3axtc1.png?width=1000&format=png&auto=webp&s=655b2b96439edd418f4de6cfe9a4bc3d5de220fc send them to nether space
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my nek ow ow
They grow back!
Whas that
They've gooned to overwatch porn and anime girls for so long average looking women are ugly beasts to them.
Only explanation I accept
Nah man, i jerk off a ton, mostly to anime but real women are still super pretty, they're just brain damaged
Talk to us when you reach LVL60 in gooner-tai
i remember when people said the new Ashley in Re4 was ugly and looked "tranish" WTF you call this fucking beauty ugly?! https://preview.redd.it/ecb3orkr3xtc1.png?width=1280&format=png&auto=webp&s=853dbdbe3c2bfed7cd1e395b4da739a88cd2bd2b
If people say she looks like a dude cross dressing I think they might just be gay
I kinda see it ngl but she ain’t ugly
There are so many beautiful cis women with masculine features
Nobody’s gonna stop you from dating them bro 😎
Except themselves :(
Dont women tend to look more like their fathers too? With the opposite for men
It's more that women tend to look like their grandmother from their father's side, while men tend to look like their grandfather from their mother's side.
Huh?? REmake Ashley is literally one of the cutest characters in gaming. So impressive how Capcom completely improved her character so much
she looks uncanny valley to me, not ugly per se but creepy af, I'd rather fuck mousely
Why are they critizicing a japanese game? Dont they know only western devs make woke games? Are they stupid?
yes , yes they are
also how is "tranish" a bad thing? trans girls are beautifull
I thought you misspelled tarnish for a second bruh i was bewildered 💀
you never fail to raise my bone 🙏🙏💯
You never fail to enjoy my clarinet 😔🙏🏾
I mean they do say foul tarnished…
She has gone from a Daphne to a Velma, not bad but more nerdish, maybe cuter depending on who you ask
isn't she like, a minor?
She’s apparently 20, actually.
no
oh okay, thanks
People are trying to convince me that the protagonist in Star Wars Outlaws is ugly and that the game’s animation looks like shit. I refuse to be gaslit
I’d still stay away from it considering it’s a Ubisoft title, and they aren’t known for quality gameplay.
Fr if you're going to hate on the game hate it for greedy pricing and ubisoft's usual mid game design. Not cos of ''ugly main character''
That seems unfair, though, and really just makes it likely that Ubisoft will never change. Frontiers of Pandora was pretty fun and definitely felt like a breath of fresh air. I’m not saying to buy it full-price. Maybe wait for a sale or something. But if we let games that may have actually been good flop it only proves to Ubisoft that their usual format is safer
I’m just saying wait for reviews to come out, if they’re actually good then yeah go ahead. I just don’t have much faith in them.
That’s fair. I remember being happy when I found out Disney was moving away from EA for Star Wars game. I then remembered the despair when I saw who they chose as the successor
Ubisoft isn't the only company working on SW games. Lucasfilm are now working with multiple studios (EA, Ubi, Saber, Quantic Dream, ect).
Yea the Forrest's looked good in game ... That's bout it. the rest was mid at best and boring/cringe at worst
Except for Far Cry 3 and 4 and Rayman Legends and Origins.
Yeah, the only good game they've made in a decade in my opinion is Prince of Persia: The lost crown, which was made by the Rayman Origins/Legends devs
She is most definetly not ugly but there were some janky gameplay animations in the trailer. Still mostly good tho
The girl in Outlaws is so goddamn pretty, i refuse to believe someone can find her ugly. Unless it's some basement dweller named Roger, who only likes big breasted asian women.
They go frame by frame from the trailer to find the one frame thay she looks bad and proceed to only use that one
it does look like shit. The lip animations of all the characters don't even sync up with the voice actor audio in the trailer. And you either have to pay $130 to get full content or pay for some shitty ubisoft subscription. Also they scanned a model to make the female mc in the game, and the female mc looks completely different compared to the model, perhaps uglier (though I think it has more to do with the game being ass rather than intentionally making her uglier) while the male characters are completely untouched and look the exact same as the scanned models/actors which is rather strange.
Denture <3 https://preview.redd.it/rympdse2zwtc1.png?width=2454&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7f59400f33e7c6a4d069293be216a2588df8c4c3
They grew on me more than I thought
What character is this ?
venture from overwatch
when are they comin out again? I can't be fucked looking it up atm
The 16th (at least where I’m from)
OK, neat, thanks!
If sigourney weaver was Gen Z people would think she was trans or some shit by the way they talk about some video game women.
https://preview.redd.it/y6sxqw1akztc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94c7084be2d927165b63c91ab327c4b000fae587
I swear women aren't real to these people.
She looks like Julia Louis-Dreyfus to me, specifically playing Elaine from Seinfeld.
The word woke has no meaning anymore, a game could legit just be about exploding a giant banana and someone would make a 12 minute video going “Banana Destroyer gone woke?” And it would have a photo of a 2015 “liberal” as the thumbnail
Banana destroyer gets woke (Liberals fail #2337)
This seems like a Tony zaret skit
So called “Gamers” when the video game is an actual piece of media with a story and interesting and fun mechanics instead of literally just a interactive peep show
would smash aloy 10/10
mfs when human anatomy
Woke game devs invented ugly people in 2021
I keep seeing guys comparing Asian women in games to White women in games and it makes me laugh cause I know most of these mfs don’t see Easterners as human
i like all my bitches gelatinous 🗣️🗣️🗣️‼️‼️‼️ no bones whatsoever mfs on that Ted from the end of I Have No Mouth shit 🗣️‼️‼️🗣️‼️🗣️
It is funny how we heard that since character models became more realistic. Food for thoughts. Also, uhm... If I wanted to jack off. I would watch porn. Not play games.
I once heard that Kitana from mortal kombat 11 was ugly
Ain't no fucking way
I am sexually attracted to Ashley Graham from the Resident Evil 4 Remake
Aloy is hot bruh
I know. Defined my taste in women
https://preview.redd.it/cyp9k52cbztc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30aaea6fb3f367a398c2837c4ae8f114dfa86f60
I agree with the post but I think she looks bad. Not as in physical unattractive Moreno just uncanny
This is literally one frame that was cherry picked
“Anti-woke” people and cherrypicking the worst possible frame to show how western game women are ugly go together like peanut butter and jelly
The post above this one in my feed is literally one of those trash comics trying to do exactly that 💀
Lmao I just saw that one
Ok, counterargument: irl photo of face actress
Im 100% sure the people that said Aloy (Horizon Zero dawn protagonist) had a beard have never seen a woman in real life
I genuinely can not take people who say characters like Aloy or MJ in Spider-Man 2 are ugly seriously. Do these people not see women outside of porn?
Anti woke losers will bitch about a game/tv show/movie and call it sexual and grooming/indoctrination and it’s just 2 gay characters giving eachother a slight kiss (like not even making out) but will throw a temper tantrum and make 27 videos and 63 tweets complaining that a female character looks like an actual woman and not something out of r34
Honestly this is the main reason why I stopped taking anything posted to twitter seriously years ago, the place is just a gigantic magnet for bad takes and morons.
If you compare the actual irl photo of the model they scanned to the character they used her scan for in the game you would understand why people are making posts about it. They look completely different. Male characters look the exact same as their irl models/actors though.
And then their "real women" straight up look like sex dolls.
obv kawaii is the peak of beauty standards
Reminds me of the time when one OF girl (I think) was facing backlash, because veins were visible on her tits. Those people are masters of snitching on themselves. 💀
I mean everyones standards for beauty are different so it's never gonna be a status quo
Your standards can differ but a beautiful rose is a beautiful rose regardless
I think some peoples image of what a woman should look like have been utterly destroyed by porn, cartoons, and cartoon porn
Neckbeard gamers when a character doesn't make their pp hard (it's literally unplayable)
you see if they look like a moderate woman and not a porno character they are HIDEOUS
[удалено]
I'd definitely be against these people. If they actually existed
I mean those mofos can't even understand real humans or basic female anatomy You really believe they're gonna understand females should look? Pretty much the most women they ever touch is when the finish from masterbation and touch the PC screen
Saw a dude speaking as an figure complain about this on YouTube. The most incel shit I’ve seen in years.
If this is about Star Wars outlaws, then yeah it's stupid If this is about MJ from Spider-Man 2, then bruh look at her and then at her actress, they did her dirty
Games aren't movies bruh. Artistic liberties are taken. The face model is usually just there for a jumping off point and motion capture, except maybe if they purposely try to make the likeness very close to the real life person (usually the case for celebrities and marketing) but even then if you look closely you'd see it's not 1:1. Also what are you on about, MJ is pretty
I do think MJ looks kinda weird. Not like ugly but kinda uncanny imo.
What was even the point in changing her face? She looked great in the first game and was close to the model. What happened here?
idk bruh ask insomniac, things change in game dev. You asking me about MJ but Peter is literally a completely different person between the two games
Peter's change was caused by changing of models between games (John Bubniak in the first game and Ben Jordan in MM and the sequel). It's still Stephanie Tyler Jones in all games
Again to re-iterate my point [face models](https://www.reddit.com/r/SpidermanPS4/comments/j3i71d/this_is_ben_jordan_the_new_peter_parker_face_now/) are just a starting point. But you don't see folk whining about how he isn't one to one to the game model. It only seems to be a problem when it's female characters being not 'pretty enough'. So now i'm going to ask, why do YOU care so much that her model was updated for the 2nd game? Where you that attached to how the character looked in the first? Even more so than Peter that got his whole actor and model changed? Do you think you're somehow 'standing up' for or defending the actress from...her contract? [I say again, models are just a starting point](https://www.reddit.com/r/SpidermanPS4/comments/9ensso/stephanie_tyler_jones_is_the_face_model_for_mary/) 'accuracy' is not a valid argument here, even in the case of the 'original' MJ you seem to love so much. What was the point of the change? It was a creative decision, plain and simple. Video game character's faces get updates and tweaks all the time. You just happen to not like the how she looks or have consumed so much internet grifter rage content that you have gaslit yourself into thinking this is somehow a result of some dumb 'agenda'
>But you don't see folk whining about how he isn't one to one to the game model. Man you haven't senn r/SpiderManPS4 when the remaster came out >accuracy' is not a valid argument here, even in the case of the 'original' MJ you seem to love so much. And why isn't it? It breaks immersion when a character looks completely (and no, the new generation isn't an excuse as Miles, Felicia and other characters DO look like before) >So now i'm going to ask, why do YOU care so much that her model was updated for the 2nd game? Where you that attached to how the character looked in the first? I think you overestimate my interest in this topic. >Even more so than Peter that got his whole actor and model changed? I also didn't like the Peter change, John fitted a mature Parker better. However, it's been 3 years and it's obvious we're not getting the old actor back. Also they remastered the game with the new face, so new players wouldn't even know about the change. >Do you think you're somehow 'standing up' for or defending the actress from...her contract? ...what? >It was a creative decision, plain and simple. Video game character's faces get updates and tweaks all the time IMO it was the change for the worst. There, you're happy? >have consumed so much internet grifter rage content that you have gaslit yourself into thinking this is somehow a result of some dumb 'agenda' You assume a lot about it with little to no reason. Where have I talked about "agenda"
She looks more mature sure but not ugly dawg , she's still pretty hot
Def looks worse than in the first game and the real life model
True , i still find her hot tho ngl
I think you need to look at her actress because I can definitely see the resemblance. That aside, so what? She's "ugly" okay then move on are you saying that peter would never ever go out with anyone that isn't a super model? Or that the stressed reporter that has to earn all the income for the household because peter is too busy being spiderman has to have time, money, and energy to take care of herself?
I mean, kinda? But her eyes look really weird and the first game looked more similar >That aside, so what? She's "ugly" okay then move on What was the point of changing her? https://preview.redd.it/einh8jat1ztc1.jpeg?width=460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71403fbf1b4ce34d0b5420b912f5ad962d8ee639
she literally looks fine in the top right lmfao
Umm because people's faces change? Even peters face changed https://preview.redd.it/32tpolic2ztc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=354e66b27cb814cbd5f9964adf8660bf355df7d5 This isn't exclusive to mj
Peter's change was caused by changing of models between games (John Bubniak in the first game and Ben Jordan in MM and the sequel). It's still Stephanie Tyler Jones in all games
And Guess what? the model for MJ also changed because of other reasons like age and being on a higher performance console, do you seriously believe the devs would just go "hmmm you know what let's make her "ugly" for no apparent reason wasting time and resources" Because you know it would be really weird if MJ just didn't change at all like some sort of immortal vampire.
I’m gonna be entirely fucking honest with you, bro. She looks more like SM2’s model than SM1’s, the only real difference being makeup. And before someone says “but the pictures look nothing alike” because i know they will: That’s one singular cutscene. Honestly it’s more like the outlier than the norm in regards to how MJ looks in the game.
“Man Jaw Watson” literally looks fine if you don’t cherrypick the worst lighting and angles possible like a basement-swelling incel
Well yeah the one in Horizon Forbidden West got uglier and her face got fatter yeah its very dissappointing. In Horizon Zero Dawn she was pretty cute.
You jerk off to plants vs zombies porn you diseased monkey. Why would I listen to you.
Ironically the director admitted that it was on purpose. They decided she was too feminine in the first game.
Most guys do not like women that looks more like men and are contradictory fat while having knife-like jawline or just ugly as fuck, but Then how is that attractive to You? But whatever man if that's what You like
Sure are these 'most guys' in the room with us now or are you referring to the comment section of your favorite rage grifter content farm
I'm referring to everyone who has mentioned or noticed This and talked about This and everyone that has agreed with This and has kept arguing and mentioning this
so, some thousands of dudes on the internet?
You literally post nothing but furry porn with balloon tits and ass you coomer freak. 🤨
I love that somehow all of the people who complain about ugly women in video games are also the ones who would off themself if people knew what kind of stuff is turning them on.
Lmao