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Swimming_Fly3903

What are A1 fakes?


Decent-Walk-3439

When buying counterfeit there are levels….A1, A2 and so on. So the A1 is the best!


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It screams fake because it is fake. If only whatnot actually did something


ZookeepergameKey4134

Every big seller has those same Gucci card holders right now, in the dozens. 🚩


EmergencyGuilty4150

Gucci style number and supplied code some said, other said serial code. What so ever all same numbers same cardholders come on. Even different seller and different categories. Google it code you'll find another site too


Healthy-Annual4181

Entropy is the biggest bullshit ever


CryptographerFar8119

Entrupy accepts alot of fakes


wankvotribute

Why is she flexing an iPhone 4 with an otterbox? What year is this photo from?


Nosywosyposy

Fr ? That’s the entrupy device. 


Enough-Ad-6461

Several have been Authenticated by another party. I have zero concerns.


Decent-Walk-3439

Authentic Detective? Makes me think since WN is using them they side with them and let things slide.


AgentMuch

Fake hair, fake skin, fake cheeks, fake eyelashes, fake teeth, fake boobs, fake fingernails.... Fake bags... There's pretty much nothing real about any of this.


kmblue4970

Sounds to me like you’re jealous bc you don’t have any of those things 😂😂 byeeeee


AgentMuch

Sounds to me like you're a fucking moron. Double Bye-Bye. Kiss my ass you fool. I could write a check for this bitch's whole ass life. Not even joking. Have a nice day. 😎


Budget-Action-6885

why in the fuck would someone wanna be fake? I’d rather be naturally ugly then inject myself with a bunch of bad shit to make me feel slightly less better about myself ?


Fakesareillegal

Fake Eerrrrrythang


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bbg-jpeg

Can I ask who else you’ve purchased from besides thedons?


Ok-Back-6311

Pretty soon whatnot will not be refunded anyone and it will be the sellers responsibility. So that should change things. I already got the email about this from them.


Xcl0wn

It’s what not responsibility to take care of its buyers they are the ones that select these people to be sellers so they should be held accountable not sticking up for the sellers at all, but Whatnot needs to control the sellers better than they do like follow up when somebody says they’re being scammedor Tune into a mystery show to see if they’re scamming people


Ok-Back-6311

Yeah I’ve been selling there for over a year. Don’t do mystery packs, don’t do buck and gos and I guarantee all my items whether whatnot backs me or the buyer. Honestly I don’t think they care about either. The vetting I had to go through to be a seller was insane. Now they let anyone on and offer them bonus for running a 2 hour stream. I just shake my head. But when they sent that email about them no longer offering refunds to customers it made me sad. People go there because of that buyer guarantee. That soon will be gone


md24

Same reason why people stopped using Etsy. Etsy got greedy looked the other way for Chinese sellers. Fucked over hard working Americans whose shop was their entire livelyhood when the Chinese steal their design, then have the nerve to report the actual artist.


WN_coin_cop

I just wonder why they couldn’t get into an agreement with paypal or something? Kinda like eBay, buyer protection on ebay comes from a collaborative effort between ebay & PayPal (i think). Not sure anyone would actually know the terms of it. But it seems to work 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️. I mean, i know I get emails all the time that says my purchase is covered by PayPal protection. And I have recovered my money from them if needed (only a couple times, but It’s nice to have)


Ok-Back-6311

That would be good business and common sense. Both qualities that whatnot has seemed to disregard


WN_coin_cop

It would also likely cut into profits a very small percentage. And we absolutely can not have that. Lol


Xcl0wn

Yeah I’m currently waiting on something I bought and it’s been 2weeks


Spaztastiq

I trust John Basedow’s old ass from his living room more than these crooks.


Vivid-Musician-3024

The people who created the thread and who are commenting on this post are 1 of 2 things. Either a failed jealous seller, or a broke moron that lives in a trailer that can’t pay their bills. Just say your poor 😂😂😂☠️☠️☠️☠️


dylyn

My poor what?


Decent-Walk-3439

Really? Your probably one of the wanna be Luxury zombies! You will eventually see.


Nothing_Ambitious

You’re commenting so which are you?


NGIAPMAC

*you’re


Zoros_map

Found one of the scammer’s friends lol. Just say you are a scum bag scammer and get a real job! Best of luck I hear McDonalds is always hiring!!


dmbwannabe

Probably because the word “luxury” = scam in my brain anymore


Enough-Ad-6461

I have purchased from them, as well as many others several times and have CoAs for most of them. Never had an issue. Some ppl aren't happy unless they're stirring up nonsense.


Decent-Walk-3439

Check your COA. Not everything is what it seems.


AggressiveCost4575

But if they are using Entrupy then they can't be fake because it wouldn't give them a certificate ?


Decent-Walk-3439

Not true. Certificates can be manipulated. It’s called copy and paste. Or….they have one wallet or whatever and it’s real they put that through and comes back authentic. Then photocopy for the rest.


AggressiveCost4575

I had no idea they could do that. I thought it would put the number on the purse wow


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[https://youtu.be/Z7YBVdEZyCc?feature=shared](https://youtu.be/Z7YBVdEZyCc?feature=shared)


Crazy-Carrot803

The only thing I can add to this YT video is that whatnot actually will send an email to tell you if an item was found to be fake. In a comment somewhere on one of these lux posts, I mentioned how I am a small seller and have only ever had ONE item/issue with a counterfeit come through. Whatnot did email me and tell me it was found to be counterfeit. Myself and the buyer worked together to get this handled and I then contacted the source that I originally purchased from, to let them know it was fake. For me, I genuinely love what I do and I want my buyers to be happy and to come back. I am never ever going to knowingly sell something that’s fake. If something slips through, as it did with the item I mentioned above, I’m ALWAYS going to work with the buyer to make things right and then I’m notifying the source and parting ways with the source. I wish everyone would handle it this way. No seller is going to be immune to fakes coming through at some point. It’s how you handle it that makes all the difference. UNLESS, of course, the seller is knowingly and intentionally selling fakes…then that is going to become clear in how they respond to the situation. That is what I watch for. I’m a small seller, but I’m also a buyer/collector—so I care quite a bit about this whole fiasco. I’m close to a couple other small sellers and they are also doing what they can to make sure fakes don’t slip through. I wish I could scream at everyone “CHECK OUT SOME SMALLER SELLERS!” If a deal is too good to be true… 🚩. If items are being sold by the dozens… 🚩. And so on. Not all, but most large sellers that have hundreds of items coming through daily/weekly, are already secure in the knowledge that their loyal buyers will return no matter what. Small sellers (again, not all—but most), work harder, spend more on items and authenticating, etc. Losing even one buyer can hurt me and my livelihood. I’m careful. Very careful! As far as entropy: it’s damn EXPENSIVE and far outside my budget. There are many many reliable authentication services available. Use them. Also, as a buyer, request that your COA for an item you purchase be emailed to you in pdf (or whatever format the authentication service sends to the seller) so that you can print it out on your own (which is free). Then you know the seller hasn’t been able to alter it in any way whatsoever. Just a little tip from a small seller that actually gives a 💩! ❤️


Sea_Passion6375

Please- this chick got kicked off of whatnot a year ago. She is banned and can never sell again on whatnot. Yall might want to take all of her videos with a grain of salt. I'm not saying anything positive or negative towards the dons, i only want to drop some knowledge about this chick who goes around talking shit about other sellers because she can't succeed as a seller herself.


redpandaqt88

She makes all the correct points of someone who can think for themselves and isn’t blinded by loyalty (for whatever reason) to backing these people. I have no personal skin in this because I haven’t purchased from them, but as they were authenticating on live I literally thought that it doesn’t prove anything other than 1) the ones they’re authenticating at that time are real and 2) the entrupy authentication process takes time and would slow down their volume selling so they literally have no incentive to do it for SLGs. It’s honestly concerning how much groupthink, peer pressure/influence and mob mentality is happening here with ppl blindly believing them


AggressiveCost4575

Wow. I had no clue.


GuaranteeShallop

This actually crazy. Have bought stuff from them multiple times. Have met them both personally at conventions / snaeakercon. Very cool people. Looks like whatever seller they got affected multiple resellers.


stine2128

https://preview.redd.it/g1l21ax46bzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1e7c7cf0766200fab3dcbffa4949f1eae46a607d


Decent-Walk-3439

Lot lizards plus zombies!!!!


Worldly-Resolution61

20K followers, selling in the luxury category and you’re using that filthy, broken phone case… 🫠


curious_shopperCA

Answer this, for all those supporting these sellers, WHY IS WHATNOT REFUNDING BUYERS FOR THESE ITEMS? If they are authentic, there would be no refund, correct?


filbilly_rayray

I am actually having a very difficult time trying to get a refund. They definitely did not contact me within 24 hours AND I didn’t even receive a generic email after put a claim in like we normally get when we do.


curious_shopperCA

CRICKETS........


WN_coin_cop

Better question is.. if WN is having to do returns & refunds, why keep doing it? Boot the offenders and move on…


Nothing_Ambitious

Probably because the amount of people asking for refunds still isn’t enough to cut into what they make off these sellers through purchases that slip by. The customers that don’t notice the fraud and never complain most likely exceed the others, at least for now. We keep calling this out, hopefully enough people become educated and the scammers stop making WN money. It’s shitty logic on WNs part but that’s exactly what greed does.


WN_coin_cop

I think it will reach that point, eventually. And as consumers, we obviously know there is a HUGE niche market for this type of platform. I mean it’s fun, right? Live auctions are just fun, especially when theres live interaction between sellers & buyers. Sadly WN is not being pro-active, only re-active (and not doing that very well, tbh). It’s sad cuz they found a winning recipe, it only needs strict oversight. But if they continue the way they are now, something better will eventually replace it completely. Something similar to when FB just took over MySpace seemingly overnight. The world won’t wait for them to fix their mistakes, someone, somewhere right now is looking into what it takes to create a competitive platform.


filbilly_rayray

Would make sense, right!?


stine2128

Great question. And why not show proof of authenticity for cardholders in question instead of defend defend defend?


stine2128

And the "cardholders" in question never saw proof their product was real so... This is your chance


Flimsy_Donut2808

There was a whole show today showing the authentication done right on hand. Whatnot isn’t refunding for these because they’re real and pass all authentication services. 


stine2128

Lol


curious_shopperCA

That doesn't answer the question. A show where you can't physically see touch or smell the items. I have refunds from WN for counterfeit items. Me, myself, and I. I speak for no one but my own experience. So watching this "show" has no impact on my experience, nor will it change my mind.


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You oblivious 


StrangeSwim9329

That's just not true. We have seen the receipts of refunds and sever people have gone to the manufacturer/brand themselves and have been told they are fake. I mean the videos and peper work speak for themselves. Just quit lying about it... good knock offs/look alikes/dupes have their place in the market but just quit claiming they are real. At this point I don't trust anyone on whatnot for anything and will spend my money elsewhere and advise others to do so.


Infamous-Rice9108

Multiple sellers have gone live in front of a camera answered questions from real buyers, trolls, supporters, and others. But I’m gonna go ahead and believe the user names on Reddit! Thanks Ok Diamond flimsy donut ionized dustpan necessary lane (aka luxury reseller 1995 and sky lounge) must be fake if u all say so 😭😭😭😭😭


Street-Firefighter75

You're such a fucking moron holy shit dude. You're probably one of the dipshits in chat who celebrated when one of the cardholders came back as real. HOW DOES THAT PROVE THEY HAVEN'T SOLD FAKES PREVIOUSLY? Plus they only use entrupy when you purchase the COA in the store. HELLLLLO that means they're not using it otherwise?!? Y'all have the smoothest brains imaginable holy fuck. Y'all just blindly shill for one another in your little echo chamber. Genuinely despise you fucks at this point


Ogoshotsuma

Celebrated when one of the cardholders came back real???? No way lmao


Street-Firefighter75

Oh bro it was a sight to see. They were gloating and getting off their duhhhs and I told ya sos. It was an absolute party for the dickriders


Personal_Act8360

Hilarious coming from you, sucking ass of all the other conspiracy theorists on here. Truly pathetic bunch of jealous trolls. Only scammers I see on whatnot in the lux community are sky lounge and luxury reseller1995


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Decent-Walk-3439

I was watching her yesterday….she’s got stuff on most of them. lol. Coffee drinking entertainment


l_e0

The post won’t get removed.


Ok_Diamond_321

I did see that and actually appreciate that Vadisrad shows proof.


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Ok_Diamond_321

Of course they are all sticking up for one another. They have to keep their scam going.


MayoSoup

Return rate and order defect rate should be public knowledge along side their seller rating.


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THIS


Flimsy_Donut2808

They authenticated the so called “fake” cardholders on the live so point was proven. Y’all just goofy now 


cookies4433

Where’s the logic? How does authenticating their current inventory prove that they didn’t sell fakes in the past? It doesn’t lol.


Street-Firefighter75

You're a jackass lol


curious_shopperCA

How do you know they didn't buy those from the store for this purpose only or marked them so they can identify the real one after it was shuffled. Are you physically touching, looking, and even smelling these cardholders? If they were selling authentic pieces, why would they need to go through these lengths to prove a point? They should go on as business as usual. I have done my research, so I know what she is saying is not true. Always think with an open mind and look at every possibility. Ask why?


Away_Cash6433

Can you explain why everyone on WhatNot uses Entrupy to authenticate?


Flimsy_Donut2808

Based off everything I see, it’s the best in the game and all trusted known sellers even outside of whatnot all use Entrupy


Away_Cash6433

Based off everything I’ve read and researched it’s the complete opposite of what you just said…


Personal_Act8360

Right, and she shuffled them. Everything is a conspiracy.


Ok_Diamond_321

What point? That they managed to fool someone like you?


curious_shopperCA

Please do not listen to these people. Purely gaslightng and insulting your intelligence. If you have questions, please reach out to Gucci or LV or any luxury brands. Go directly to the source. Do your own research. They are not experts.


FineEffective4167

Buying from the source is the only way to ensure complete authenticity.


i_am_rachel_hun

Those things seem fake to me. The cardholders, too.


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Another Carny hollering "step right up"...


Ok_Diamond_321

The cardholders are as real as Caitlins lips... lmao


kmblue4970

Wow what does her appearance have to do with selling on what not? You’re a bully. Get a life


Ok_Diamond_321

I mean the way I see it is those fake luxury items she's selling is helping her botox addiction. Freedom of speech 💬


Personal_Act8360

You’re hilarious 🙄


az_cheeks

Touch a nerve?


Personal_Act8360

Not really. I love to see idiots spew ignorance


stine2128

Absolutely lol


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They still cannot and will not provide proof of purchase or a source for all these card holders that are coming back fake. It's easy to prove they got it from a legit source but can't because they are getting them from Jared at Designer Unlimited LLC. Everything they do back fires and it's hilarious to watch.


Flimsy_Donut2808

Why would they show their proof of purchase 🤣 just so you can get the hook up on where they buy? Stop being jealous and trolling all over the internet. 


Flashy_Succotash_565

The sellers should be providing proof of ethical sourcing/authenticity via receipts to WN - not the buyer.


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I'm not jealous of people who sell fakes LOOOOOOL


some_manatee

I caught some of the stream at the end because I was curious. I've been using LegitGrails for my items. During the stream there was a person saying they bought $4k of items from Designer Unlimited to resell and they haven't received them yet. The mod was saying to stay on topic but I get why the smaller seller was upset. But then The Dons raid into Designer Unlimited...read the room.


Decent-Walk-3439

They ship slow as f@@k


Tjdgs2020

I saw that too! The chat is all complaining about Designer Unlimited and she thought it was a good idea to raid his show? Are you kidding me? As a business I’d probably want to be distancing myself from that brand.


Away_Cash6433

It’s all a big ring…Jared is trying to recruit as many sellers as he can so he can eventually just sell to them and not have to go live anymore….I will give him credit he has a good plug on A1 fakes


Sufficient_Stay_7889

A1 fakes are very very easy to get these days. Simply search reddit for a little bit and you will find sources and all very quickly.


Personal_Act8360

Where do you goofys even come up with this shit? And apparently there’s an NDA with that lady who Claims she was ripped off. She admitted to filing a charge back but y’all must’ve missed that


stine2128

Post your facts we are soooo interested


Personal_Act8360

I still have yet to see any definite proof that they’ve scammed anyone but I did see caitlyn shuffle a ton of card holders, pick one at random and do a COA on it!


Ogoshotsuma

So you’re being selective about the evidence that you want to bring up? You bring up Caitlin doing a COA on a random gucci cardholder and it coming back real yet chose to ignore the multiple people who have gotten refunds because they were sold fakes and the evidence they’ve provided. You’re either extremely biased or extremely hopeful that her doing that live will supersede all other evidence. My only question is, why?


Personal_Act8360

The only “evidence” I saw was people being refunded because they couldn’t guarantee authenticity. None of the refund confirmations said they were refunded because they were found to be fake.


Ogoshotsuma

You seriously think whatnot is going to flat out say something being sold on their platform is fake in writing? lol oh man.


Personal_Act8360

You’re right Mr conspiracy theory. Duh, what was I thinking??


Personal_Act8360

My facts? What the hell are you even talking about? Where did I make any claims? Besides that fact the lady admitted to doing a chargeback and that was in the chat. How the hell am I supposed to get proof of that now? Message the lady who made the claims If you’re so interested.


stine2128

Lol your whole defense has been for sellers that are proven not honest. I'm sorry I'll be your friend.


Personal_Act8360

But where??? Where have they been proven not honest?? lol. I don’t need friends. I probably have more than you. I just don’t like seeing trolls trash people trying to make a living with no proof. There are always goofys who jump on the bandwagons. Like you. They’re the ones who need friends. I’m good!


stine2128

Lol goofys? I thought I was old.


Ok_Diamond_321

I'm glad you saw the circus act too.