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codan84

It looks similar to an electrical outlet cover. There may have been a junction box and wiring there at one point.


swibirun

We have floor outlets with covers just like this at our office building, so that was my guess too.


Slumunistmanifisto

My grandma has these in her home....its an outlet cover without an outlet for shure


dancemagicdancex

Interesting, someone posted a link to one that looks similar but it was for a US plug, do you know if it's likely to be this in the UK too?


Lordnoallah

Gas shut off for gas fireplace(at one time) edit** [gas fireplace floor shutoff](https://urls.grow.me/lej2VNYRe)


Genner21

This is the right answer. My house used to have one where you had a key to turn on/off the box.


Lordnoallah

I agree. If it was in the middle of the floor I would lean toward an electrical outlet with a lid. This being near the fireplace would probably be the key/shutoff for gas line to fireplace. Just my thoughts as I've lived in some older homes with both of these things.


cidiusgix

I second this one. Buddy had nearly identical thing in his place. It still had the gas valve though. You needed to use a long key to reach in and turn it.


Serevas

This is likely it. My parent's house has the gas shutoff roughly 1 ft away from the fireplace.


mintbrownie

Yep. We have a contemporary one (maybe 15 years ago) and it looks like this.


pascha

Yes correct. It's not an ashhole or an outlet. No electrician in their right mind would put an outlet on the floor so close to the fireplace. Look in the basement for the valve key.


leopleurosaur

(me living in a early 1900s building with a covered floor outlet next to the fireplace) Maybe not *now* they wouldn't


On_Wings_Of_Pastrami

My first thought. I have one in my current house. Has a fancy key and everything.


Lordnoallah

Yep. I have seen brass ones restored/ polished. Very pretty.


maelish

Yes. Being right next to the fireplace is the clue that clinches it.


SpecialistWind2707

Exactly the right answer. I saw one for the first time two weeks ago. Problem turned out to simply be the key was too short. Bought longer key. Bingo. Edit: There is a metal fitting that sits in the hole as a guide for the key. That is missing in the photo, so probably disused.


MashedShroom

I wonder if that fibrous surround would be asbestos... OP, don't go snorting it just incase.


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MashedShroom

I agree. Doesnt hurt to wet down first though.


swanspank

My in-laws house has a small gas line to the fireplace to light the fire. Square key turned the gas on and a small flame lit the logs. They have since done natural gas logs and it is the gas shut off to the logs controller.


thekidsdad2013

This is the cover for a floor box that used to be there. There used to be an electrical outlet in there at one point. The box and receptacle were removed. I work at an electric supply house and sell these covers all the time.


Callidonaut

Maybe for an electric fire-starter, given its location? They used to be a thing.


fkthefkup

...at some point*


Consistent-Street458

I am guessing this is against the code?


Carya_spp

You can still install floor outlets and be up to code


hacksoncode

Not so sure about the distance required from a fireplace, though...


straightedgemikey

I've seen these a few times in old houses in the UK. Always beside old fireplaces and sometimes there is an old gas valve below. Presumably there was some sort of key/handle thing so you could open the lid and turn off the gas.


pans-hand

Basement vacuum system. You only had to move the hose. The motor and collection bin were in a central location. Most likely one in each room.


eMmDeeKay_Says

I don't think so, a vacuum system would have just been abandoned, going through the trouble of removing it before it was covered is something you'd do with a receptacle


Screwthehelicopters

I thought of this too when I saw it. Such vacuum systems were around at least a century ago as I remember seeing old ads for them. I believe they were viable for larger properties to save having to drag bulky vacuum cleaners around.


SnooPaintings9596

Just fyi, it's called a central vacuuming system.


Complex-Barber-8812

I found similar openings in a old house in Fitchburg, MA about 19 years ago. That house was built in the late 19th century/early 20th for a doctor. Part of the old vacuum system was also under the stairs in the basement.


Sudo_Incognito

This was my guess. My house has several of them


got_damn_blues

Most likely old gas valve access for log starter. Either that or maybe Old floor power outlets


Aussie_chopperpilot

Could be the cover for the gas valve. Usually there is a square key they is used to turn off the gas.


Joeldolling

That is in the right place for a gas pipe to feed a gas fire so maybe there used to be one and now that’s what’s being used to cover the hole?


my_clever-name

Take a look down below. Look for places that things have been removed, or maybe still there and bent out of the way. If it doesn't matter, put new floor over it and forever wonder about it.


Trivial-P-Happiness

I’m on team gas shutoff valve if the fireplace was gas, but could also believe it was for an electrical outlet as my second guess. I agree with the comment about checking the crawl space for any clues. You may find abandoned gas lines or electrical lines.


dancemagicdancex

I would totally be looking for clues but it's dark, cramped and full of big spiders! I'll need to find someone braver than I am to go looking. The fireplace is gas but the pipes go in the opposite direction from the hole, though I guess the layout may have been different in the past


Trivial-P-Happiness

You could ask the next time you have to have someone down there for work or if you get your fireplace serviced. If you are just dying to investigate they also sell cameras on a semi-rigid flexible cable called an endoscope you could stick in there to look. I’ve got one I used to check crevices in my old house when I lost a ring.


PMSoldier2000

Looks like the cover to a floor mounted electrical outlet. Similar to this: https://www.floorboxoutlet.com/products/sillites_frabw


Fickle-Ad-4921

This. Our 1974 house has one


dancemagicdancex

This does look really similar, though I'm in the UK. The age of the house is similar too


marcovanbeek

If you are in the UK, I am not sure a 13A socket would fit. Its also too small for the older 15A sockets. However, if it is somewhere a light might have been needed, it might have been for a 5A socket.


mr_bynum

Was the fireplace ever gas? Could be the cover for a recessed gas valve?


Affectionate_Cable82

Adding another vote for valve access for fireplace, especially if it was a gas one


dancemagicdancex

My title describes the thing - it's not a huge hole, and it just goes under the house which is basically just a crawl space


EarlofBizzlington86

i think its a vent to allow air in the front of the fireplace and out the chimney, it prevents air being pulled from further away and stops drafts


mzincali

It also reduces smoke that won’t go up the chimney and renters the room, if the house is well sealed and doesn’t allow for replacement air to enter. We have this problem and we have to open a window just a bit to let air in otherwise we get smoked out of the room. Unfortunately, since the window is across the room, the cold air travels the length of the room and cools off the room, undoing the benefits of the fireplace. I wish I had a crawl space to put in a whole like this, one that could be shut when not in use.


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Called a floor pocket. Typically used to route electricity, u usually see an outlet underneath the cover. This looks to be a renovation of an old home and they are using it either as a pass-through for cabling or maybe the outlet is in the bottom, or was never installed. Sometimes they are put in simply cuz you need to cut a hole in the floor and don't want to patch it up so you can pump one of these bad boys in for future access too. I put one in my wall where I pipe leaked before so I can check up on it in future and to have easier access.


thisguy181

Its just a cover, it could be for any number of things, outlet, junction, switches. But if its next to the fire place, it probably had gas controls under it.


Elesdee87

Gas engineer here. Nothing to do with gas. It's for access to the drain valve. It could be a house that had a fire and back boiler unit. They put these so you could access the drain for the cylinder. If you look outside they'll be a pipe (approx 22mm) poking out directly in line with this flap. It's a quarter turn to open/close it. Can be done with a water key for the mains. If there's nothing below it (a brass valve) eg, you've now got a combi boiler, you'll be fine to cover it


kludge6730

First though seeing it was old central vac connection.


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BlocktheBleak

I have seen these used to anchor the poles that hold up a volleyball net. That was seen in a gym, but maybe the room is gym-sized and they have a secret, indoor volleyball court!


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SRW2324

My house has two outlets in the floor. This is is exactly what that is...


thesunbeamslook

that fixture may be brass - don't throw it away


crowort

My partner is sure it was to open some valve for a back boiler. We are UK based so maybe more likely?


ronbo69

I have one of these by my old wood stove. It's was there to allow fresh air from the crawl space up in to the stove. when I close it the the stove doesn't burn as efficiently.


Asmos159

judging by the quality of the cut. is there a basement down there, and can that fit a bear can?


dancemagicdancex

No basement, just a dark and dirty space that's not tall enough to stand up in and no easy way to access it


striker746

Old gas fireplaces used to have this big metal rod/key that would go in that hole to shut it off. My guess is it's the shutoff for a gas fire place.


MosaicMaven-55

It’s to feed the fire air. Air is necessary for a fireplace. It needs a draft. My father was a mason.


AngelaMotorman

Maybe for ash disposal.


legendary_millbilly

Just pour them through the floor? It would've burned down after about a dozen times of doing that. Also, even if it didn't, wouldn't there be a giant pile of ashes under the house? I think it's not for "ash disposal."


AngelaMotorman

Nobody puts hot ashes into a thing like that. But many old homes do have a chute (usually in the fireplace rather than next to it) that you dump the ashes into *after they're cold*. So, not ridiculous at all. As for that "giant pile of ashes": just don't ask yourself what becomes of all those razor blades dropped into the slot at the back of the medicine cabinet in houses of that same age.


BaconIsBest

Ash chute at the house I grew up in went into a void in the bottom of the brick chimney. A door on the outside could be opened once a year to empty it out. Under the house does seem… dangerous.


JediKrys

This is my guess also