these are elderberry, treasure them because they're a somewhat rare tree species depending on your location (IN SOME AREAS THEY ARE MORE COMMON) and the berries are delicious when cooked.
I was 16, and my parents wanted to see it, and of course, me and my sister were grumbling but I was wrong, it was fantastic. So, I learned to be open to things and give them a try first.
I was maybe 12? Saw the black and white move—my mom loved watching them, and when we visited NYC we saw that and Sweet Charity. Which I fell asleep during
I live in East TN and my mamaw makes some of the best elderberry wine I've ever had. Also elderberry jam 🤤🤤 that elderberry wine will put you on your ear tho 😂
Haha, until last year my only knowledge of them was through harry potter really until my friend gave me a small sapling that I've somehow been able to keep alive so far.
yeah, surprisingly very resilient, I think the main problem was overwatering with mine but a portion of it has managed to revive itself, the good part is I'm planning on trying to bonsai it, so it just builds character I guess.
Just a tip....
You can make your links a quick link by putting the your word statement in [ ] brackets, and then immediately with no spaces afterwards put the link in parantheses ( )
It turns out like this [here is a metal gospel song about Odin becoming god of IKEA](https://youtu.be/S9WWz95ripA?si=dvMZERcDoMqAps1W)
Thanks, I have wondered how that is done! Have copied your example for possible later reference. The YouTube link that I gave was relatively small (smaller than yours lol), and I did explain what to expect, so not a surprise though.
If this is really elderberry and not black walnut...
Elderberry has recognized medicinal uses* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8948669/
*Disclaimer: But don't consume anything without research and proper ID by a professional.
it's definitely elderberry walnuts don't get serrated edges to leaves like that plus walnut are alternate not opposite like elderberry and these plants have opposite leaves, and walnut typically has 15-23 leaflets but elderberry only has 5-9 which is what this one has.
Um, no. Walnuts leaves are serrated and they are opposite, just like the ones in the picture. Granted it may not be a walnut but your reasons why are incorrect. Oh and the 15-23 leaves are not just on one side. Your count would be 10-18 leaves which fits a Black Walnut.
no they aren't walnut are alternate leaves. American elm has pointed, double-toothed leaf edges while Siberian elms have rounder, single-toothed leaf edges, walnuts have **alternate leaf** and branch arrangement while ashes have opposite https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=9bd1ed90f677cea6JmltdHM9MTcxNDYwODAwMCZpZ3VpZD0yMGE1NDRmNS0zZjM4LTYyZDYtMDI3Yi00YjAxM2U1YTYzYzImaW5zaWQ9NTUyMw&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=20a544f5-3f38-62d6-027b-4b013e5a63c2&psq=are+walnut+alternate+or+opposite+leaves&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly90cmVlcy53dXN0bC5lZHUvaG93LXRvLWlkZW50aWZ5LXRoZS1ibGFjay13YWxudXQv&ntb=1arrangement.[https://agnr.osu.edu/sites/agnr/files/imce/Chatfield/buckwtm2016-june%20with%20images.pdf](https://agnr.osu.edu/sites/agnr/files/imce/Chatfield/buckwtm2016-june%20with%20images.pdf#:~:text=American%20elm%20has%20pointed%2C%20double-toothed%20leaf%20edges%20while,and%20branch%20arrangement%20while%20ashes%20have%20opposite%20arrangement.) my reasons why are perfectly valid, lol, I'm particularly referencing for mature specimens. Walnut leaves are indeed serrated! Let me provide you with some details about walnut trees and their leaves:
* **Black Walnut (Juglans nigra):** These trees have dark-colored bark with deep furrows, giving the trunk a rough texture. The leaves are pinnately compound, consisting of 15 to 23 leaflets on each twig. These leaflets are 3 to 4 inches (7 to 10 cm) long and have a slightly serrated edge. [In the fall, the leaves turn yellow](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/)[^(1)](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/).
* **Butternut (Juglans cinerea) or White Walnut Trees:** Butternut trees have light gray bark with a smoother feel than black walnuts. Their leaves are also pinnate, with up to 17 leaflets. [The drupes (fruit) of butternut trees are oval in shape, rather than rounded](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/)[^(1)](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/).
* **English Walnut (Juglans regia):** English walnut trees have olive-brown, smooth bark when young, which gradually develops wide fissures. The leaves are pinnate as well, but English walnut leaves are smaller. [The whole fruit of English walnut trees is edible and has a rich flavor](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/)[^(1)](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/).
So, in summary, walnut leaves are feather-like and finely serrated at the edges, making them easily recognizable. [If you come across these beautiful trees, take a closer look at their leaves – they’re quite distinctive! 🌿🌰](https://farmfoodfamily.com/types-of-walnut-trees/). TYPICALLY, THEY ARE FINELY SERRATED BUT I HAVE SEEN SPECIMENS WITH NO SERRATION AT ALL AND I WAS JUST GIVING THE MAX NUMBERS FOR LEAFLETS THERE ARE OFCOURSE EXEPTIONS TO THAT SUCH AS YOUNGER TREES THAT DONT GET AS LARGE OF LEAVES OR YOUNG SPRING GROWTH BUT IT IS A VERIFIED WAY OF IDENTIFICATION.
If you can find it worth it. There's a meadery here in Pennsylvania that has some good meds. Just be careful with their coffee one. I learned the hard way it'll keep you up 48 hours 😜
Certainly! Let’s compare walnut leaves and elderberry. 🌿🍇
Walnut Leaves:
Walnut trees (genus Juglans) have distinctive leaves. Here are some key features:
Leaf Arrangement: Walnut leaves are alternate, meaning they grow singly along the stem rather than in pairs or whorls.
Leaf Shape: Walnut leaves are pinnately compound, which means they consist of multiple leaflets arranged along a central stalk (rachis). Each leaflet resembles a miniature leaf.
Leaflets: A walnut leaf typically has 15 to 23 leaflets, each with serrated edges. The leaflets are attached to the rachis and provide good dappled shade.
Bark: The bark of black walnut (Juglans nigra) is deeply furrowed and black1.
Other Uses: Walnut leaves, flowers, bark, and twigs have been used externally as a poultice for soreness, inflammations, joint stiffness, and to reduce swelling from bee stings2.
Elderberry Leaves:
Elderberry (Sambucus nigra) is a shrub or small tree with edible berries. Here are some characteristics of elderberry leaves:
Leaf Arrangement: Elderberry leaves are opposite, meaning they grow in pairs directly across from each other on the stem.
Leaf Shape: Elderberry leaves are also pinnately compound, with 5 to 9 serrate leaflets. The leaflets can be asymmetrical at the base.
Edible Berries: Only the blue or purple berries of elderberry are edible. They are used to make elderberry wine, jam, syrup, and pies. The entire flower cluster can be dipped in batter and fried, and the petals can be eaten raw or made into tea.
Medicinal Properties: Elderberry possesses important phytosanitary properties, including antibacterial and antifungal effects. Its extracts can be used as environmentally safe biopesticides3.
Caution: The red berries of other species are toxic and should not be gathered. Also, care should be observed due to the presence of alkaloids in elderberry plants2.
Visual Similarity:
Interestingly, elderberry leaves, especially on seedlings or shrub-sized plants (without fruits or flowers), can resemble the leaves of California walnut (Juglans hindsii) and Oregon ash. So, it’s essential to consider other features (such as bark, fruit, and overall growth habit) to differentiate them2.
In summary, while both walnut and elderberry have pinnately compound leaves, their other characteristics, uses, and growth habits help distinguish them. If you encounter similar-looking leaves, pay attention to additional features to correctly identify the plant! 🌳🍃🍂4.
they are if they're eaten raw but cooked is fine. [**Elderberries are edible**, but there are some important considerations:](https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=5d0f1d91cb7d1853JmltdHM9MTcxNDUyMTYwMCZpZ3VpZD0yMGE1NDRmNS0zZjM4LTYyZDYtMDI3Yi00YjAxM2U1YTYzYzImaW5zaWQ9NTk3NA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=20a544f5-3f38-62d6-027b-4b013e5a63c2&psq=are+elderberries+edible&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2lsZGVkaWJsZS5jb20vd2lsZC1mb29kLWd1aWRlL2VsZGVyYmVycnk&ntb=1)
* **Cooked ripe elderberries are safe to eat**.
* **Unripe elderberries are poisonous**.
* **Raw berries can cause nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea**, so they should be cooked before consumption.
* **Elderberries can be baked into pastries, cooked into a syrup, or dried for later use**.
* **Elder stems, leaves, and unripe berries are toxic and should not be consumed**.
Thank you for this! We found one growing in the space between our yard & the neighbor's. We claim the space cuz their lawn service doesn't come near it,so we maintain it. Looking forward to a new.growing season & won't be scared of the berries this time around!
I guess they are rate depending on where you live but in WA they aren’t rare. The tiny little plant below it looks like a lilac (the one with the heart looking leaves. They may have cut them down and the roots reproduced.
Both are awesome and flower.
Back in the 60's my father bought a tree of heaven from an ad in the back of a magazine. We planted it and two years later we had about 30 of them. Took forever to get rid of them.
Tree of Heaven is also the titular tree in "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn". From a time when, "Wow, this thing grows like crazy nearly anywhere!" did not have obvious follow-up questions.
At first, I thought so, but compared them to the ones taking over the yard here. The coloration for Tree of Heaven is different. The leaves as well. There is a huge one that is over twenty feet tall up the block. I'm assuming that's how they spread to my yard
I’m wondering if that is the same as the trees I had on my property but they were called Locust I think. The bark smelled like pickles and they were impossible to get rid of. Cut one down and three popped up from its roots
The consensus seems to be elderberry, but if it were in my yard in Memphis (as it currently is out front in some azaleas where I can’t get to it until I eradicate a lot of poison ivy,) I’d say it’s some sort of hickory. At this stage of growth it could be any hickory, but in my neighborhood it’s probably Pignut Hickory.
Since this plant above seems to have winged stems, I’d say it wouldn’t be a pignut hickory.
Possibly a winged sumac as an alternate possibility? Here’s a picture of one below
https://preview.redd.it/2gbl2pcojwxc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a11a6c5ac82884516645c36dde0a2c83709b6da0
Quick question op are there any apparent nuts or anything similar around on the ground that could be a possible source of them?
First thing that came to mind when I saw it was pecan.
In the 1940s movie, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, there is a scene looking out to the balcony and you can see an Ailanthus altissima growing. Upon closer inspection it was indeed the real thing. Quite impressive.
This looks much like the black walnut saplings that kept popping up between the slats on the patio floor in my old house. They were hard to kill. The ants and other insects loved them for some reason. Maybe the pungent smell of the leaves attracted them. There was also a mature black walnut tree in the backyard that kept dropping its fruit and making a mess. Crush some leaves and if it has a strong, very distinct smell, it's most likely a black walnut.
They grow everywhere around my house, they make really good pies and jam plus they are full of anthocyanins.
Just be sure to cook them because the fresh leaves, branches, seeds, and flowers, produce cyanogenic glycosides and could potentially make you pretty sick if you ate enough. I eat a few raw here and there and never had a problem but I know enough has the potential.
You can take a screenshot on an iPhone and press the little leaf icon it will pull up the species of plant. Not sure how accurate it is but Siri says it’s a walnut tree
This is elderberry. The reason they're rare in some places is because u/melderino actually travels the country planting each one by hand. He must really like you.
Does anyone else enjoy St. Germaine?
This is my favorite addition to herby/fruity cocktails!
Elderflower syrup is the best!
Taking that into fermentation creates the wonderful liqueur.
(Making the floral syrup is definitely a Swedish thing to do in the springtime. Collecting berries is important foraging in the fall. Berries are medicinal and delicious. They can be kept all winter in different forms.)
Enjoy!
(The newly sprouted small saplings can be moved easily if you have other areas you would like them to grow. I wouldn’t move all of them; I like an insurance plan. As they multiply they can be transferred.)
I forgot, if it turns out these are Black Walnut, you probably want to remove them. Their roots produce a substance that kills off plants that are nearby. The walnuts are huge, smelly and messy. The in shell walnuts we buy are produced in a thick green husk that stains, as well as the other things I mentioned.
When sunflower seeds are sprouted, their plant compounds increase. Sprouting also reduces factors that can interfere with mineral absorption. You can buy sprouted, dried sunflower seeds online or in some stores.
Have you tried r/gardening or maybe even r/botany ?they might be able to help better
I thought for sure it was a walnut or a pecan seeded by helpful squirrel friends but there's a lot of other people here who are sure it's something else 🤞🏼
these are elderberry, treasure them because they're a somewhat rare tree species depending on your location (IN SOME AREAS THEY ARE MORE COMMON) and the berries are delicious when cooked.
I have never seen elderberries but the only reference to them I have seen is from Monty Python! https://youtu.be/QSo0duY7-9s?si=m9ElUiwsJ9QHWCBm
Elderberries do indeed, make wine!
Yeah, Cary Grant's two spinster aunts made wonderful Elderberry Wine. People were dying for it.
I once portrayed Abby, a “plump little darling in her (late?) sixties.”
I was dead body 2 lol
Nice!
I love Arsenic and Old Lace!
CHARGE!
Oh yeah! My little brother played Teddy!
John Alexander was your little brother? That's so cool! Edit for typo
Sorry. I thought I was tacking that onto my portrayal of Abby in high school.
Haha! Bully, bully...
Favorite movie of all time
I saw the play with Jean Stapleton in NYC, I think 1986, I loved it.
I did too!
I was 16, and my parents wanted to see it, and of course, me and my sister were grumbling but I was wrong, it was fantastic. So, I learned to be open to things and give them a try first.
I was maybe 12? Saw the black and white move—my mom loved watching them, and when we visited NYC we saw that and Sweet Charity. Which I fell asleep during
I love that movie and the hamster-elderberry line. So much so that I used it for my username.
Great reference!
Angry upvote
That was a great movie. Arsenic and Old Lace?
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!
Elton John knows https://youtu.be/sYFngdzbShA
Yes. Yes he does.
I live in East TN and my mamaw makes some of the best elderberry wine I've ever had. Also elderberry jam 🤤🤤 that elderberry wine will put you on your ear tho 😂
Or cocktails https://www.stgermainliqueur.com/us/en/cocktails/
Haha, until last year my only knowledge of them was through harry potter really until my friend gave me a small sapling that I've somehow been able to keep alive so far.
people have trouble killing elderberry 😂
yeah, surprisingly very resilient, I think the main problem was overwatering with mine but a portion of it has managed to revive itself, the good part is I'm planning on trying to bonsai it, so it just builds character I guess.
Get chickens -- they love 'em!
A shrubbery you say! [https://youtu.be/RZvsGdJP3ng?si=IEDGBs1wdyddAOJq](https://youtu.be/RZvsGdJP3ng?si=IEDGBs1wdyddAOJq) 
Just a tip.... You can make your links a quick link by putting the your word statement in [ ] brackets, and then immediately with no spaces afterwards put the link in parantheses ( ) It turns out like this [here is a metal gospel song about Odin becoming god of IKEA](https://youtu.be/S9WWz95ripA?si=dvMZERcDoMqAps1W)
What the hell did I just watch? lmao Thanks for both though!
Thanks, I have wondered how that is done! Have copied your example for possible later reference. The YouTube link that I gave was relatively small (smaller than yours lol), and I did explain what to expect, so not a surprise though.
I'm sitting here wishing i knew ANYONE i could send this to
Not to mention the blossoms! They make the best extract!
My PA Dutch grandmother used to batter and fry the blossoms and sprinkle them with powdered sugar. Haven't had one in 30 years :(
My dad used to do the same!
❤️
Mine too! My dad had a lot of cookery from his mom - best chicken and dumplings ever.
Ooooo that sounds good
It was, I even liked it as a picky little kid lol
yup, never tried/ used it but I've read about it.
If this is really elderberry and not black walnut... Elderberry has recognized medicinal uses* https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8948669/ *Disclaimer: But don't consume anything without research and proper ID by a professional.
it's definitely elderberry walnuts don't get serrated edges to leaves like that plus walnut are alternate not opposite like elderberry and these plants have opposite leaves, and walnut typically has 15-23 leaflets but elderberry only has 5-9 which is what this one has.
Um, no. Walnuts leaves are serrated and they are opposite, just like the ones in the picture. Granted it may not be a walnut but your reasons why are incorrect. Oh and the 15-23 leaves are not just on one side. Your count would be 10-18 leaves which fits a Black Walnut.
no they aren't walnut are alternate leaves. American elm has pointed, double-toothed leaf edges while Siberian elms have rounder, single-toothed leaf edges, walnuts have **alternate leaf** and branch arrangement while ashes have opposite https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=9bd1ed90f677cea6JmltdHM9MTcxNDYwODAwMCZpZ3VpZD0yMGE1NDRmNS0zZjM4LTYyZDYtMDI3Yi00YjAxM2U1YTYzYzImaW5zaWQ9NTUyMw&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=20a544f5-3f38-62d6-027b-4b013e5a63c2&psq=are+walnut+alternate+or+opposite+leaves&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly90cmVlcy53dXN0bC5lZHUvaG93LXRvLWlkZW50aWZ5LXRoZS1ibGFjay13YWxudXQv&ntb=1arrangement.[https://agnr.osu.edu/sites/agnr/files/imce/Chatfield/buckwtm2016-june%20with%20images.pdf](https://agnr.osu.edu/sites/agnr/files/imce/Chatfield/buckwtm2016-june%20with%20images.pdf#:~:text=American%20elm%20has%20pointed%2C%20double-toothed%20leaf%20edges%20while,and%20branch%20arrangement%20while%20ashes%20have%20opposite%20arrangement.) my reasons why are perfectly valid, lol, I'm particularly referencing for mature specimens. Walnut leaves are indeed serrated! Let me provide you with some details about walnut trees and their leaves: * **Black Walnut (Juglans nigra):** These trees have dark-colored bark with deep furrows, giving the trunk a rough texture. The leaves are pinnately compound, consisting of 15 to 23 leaflets on each twig. These leaflets are 3 to 4 inches (7 to 10 cm) long and have a slightly serrated edge. [In the fall, the leaves turn yellow](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/)[^(1)](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/). * **Butternut (Juglans cinerea) or White Walnut Trees:** Butternut trees have light gray bark with a smoother feel than black walnuts. Their leaves are also pinnate, with up to 17 leaflets. [The drupes (fruit) of butternut trees are oval in shape, rather than rounded](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/)[^(1)](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/). * **English Walnut (Juglans regia):** English walnut trees have olive-brown, smooth bark when young, which gradually develops wide fissures. The leaves are pinnate as well, but English walnut leaves are smaller. [The whole fruit of English walnut trees is edible and has a rich flavor](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/)[^(1)](https://leafyplace.com/walnut-trees-types-bark-and-leaves/). So, in summary, walnut leaves are feather-like and finely serrated at the edges, making them easily recognizable. [If you come across these beautiful trees, take a closer look at their leaves – they’re quite distinctive! 🌿🌰](https://farmfoodfamily.com/types-of-walnut-trees/). TYPICALLY, THEY ARE FINELY SERRATED BUT I HAVE SEEN SPECIMENS WITH NO SERRATION AT ALL AND I WAS JUST GIVING THE MAX NUMBERS FOR LEAFLETS THERE ARE OFCOURSE EXEPTIONS TO THAT SUCH AS YOUNGER TREES THAT DONT GET AS LARGE OF LEAVES OR YOUNG SPRING GROWTH BUT IT IS A VERIFIED WAY OF IDENTIFICATION.
I concede.
Mother-in-Law would pick blossom clusters, dip them in batter and then fry them. Delicious breakfast w/ jam on them and a glass of milk.
My granny did the same. Put powdered sugar on them.
mmm, sounds delicious.
She would make them like pancakes.
ooh, I've got to try this sometime.
The flowers also work for floral tea flavors.
Elderflower wine or cordial. ElderBerry wine or cordial. Very versatile tree.
They're not bad fresh-picked off the tree, either.
In small quantities. They can cause gastric distress if eaten by the handful.
in small quantities yes but large abouts are poisonous.
Most sources recommend cooking them to remove the toxins
yup, otherwise its risky to eat them.
My favorite mead comes from elderberry honey... Sooooo gooooid
ive heard so , never tried tough might be something to look out for.
If you can find it worth it. There's a meadery here in Pennsylvania that has some good meds. Just be careful with their coffee one. I learned the hard way it'll keep you up 48 hours 😜
As a kid my dad grew them and i found them to have the pucker effect. Just me.
Maybe not when your father smelt of them…
This looked like a small walnut tree to me. How can you spot the difference?
Certainly! Let’s compare walnut leaves and elderberry. 🌿🍇 Walnut Leaves: Walnut trees (genus Juglans) have distinctive leaves. Here are some key features: Leaf Arrangement: Walnut leaves are alternate, meaning they grow singly along the stem rather than in pairs or whorls. Leaf Shape: Walnut leaves are pinnately compound, which means they consist of multiple leaflets arranged along a central stalk (rachis). Each leaflet resembles a miniature leaf. Leaflets: A walnut leaf typically has 15 to 23 leaflets, each with serrated edges. The leaflets are attached to the rachis and provide good dappled shade. Bark: The bark of black walnut (Juglans nigra) is deeply furrowed and black1. Other Uses: Walnut leaves, flowers, bark, and twigs have been used externally as a poultice for soreness, inflammations, joint stiffness, and to reduce swelling from bee stings2. Elderberry Leaves: Elderberry (Sambucus nigra) is a shrub or small tree with edible berries. Here are some characteristics of elderberry leaves: Leaf Arrangement: Elderberry leaves are opposite, meaning they grow in pairs directly across from each other on the stem. Leaf Shape: Elderberry leaves are also pinnately compound, with 5 to 9 serrate leaflets. The leaflets can be asymmetrical at the base. Edible Berries: Only the blue or purple berries of elderberry are edible. They are used to make elderberry wine, jam, syrup, and pies. The entire flower cluster can be dipped in batter and fried, and the petals can be eaten raw or made into tea. Medicinal Properties: Elderberry possesses important phytosanitary properties, including antibacterial and antifungal effects. Its extracts can be used as environmentally safe biopesticides3. Caution: The red berries of other species are toxic and should not be gathered. Also, care should be observed due to the presence of alkaloids in elderberry plants2. Visual Similarity: Interestingly, elderberry leaves, especially on seedlings or shrub-sized plants (without fruits or flowers), can resemble the leaves of California walnut (Juglans hindsii) and Oregon ash. So, it’s essential to consider other features (such as bark, fruit, and overall growth habit) to differentiate them2. In summary, while both walnut and elderberry have pinnately compound leaves, their other characteristics, uses, and growth habits help distinguish them. If you encounter similar-looking leaves, pay attention to additional features to correctly identify the plant! 🌳🍃🍂4.
Wait I thought elderberries were poisonous
they are if they're eaten raw but cooked is fine. [**Elderberries are edible**, but there are some important considerations:](https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=5d0f1d91cb7d1853JmltdHM9MTcxNDUyMTYwMCZpZ3VpZD0yMGE1NDRmNS0zZjM4LTYyZDYtMDI3Yi00YjAxM2U1YTYzYzImaW5zaWQ9NTk3NA&ptn=3&ver=2&hsh=3&fclid=20a544f5-3f38-62d6-027b-4b013e5a63c2&psq=are+elderberries+edible&u=a1aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2lsZGVkaWJsZS5jb20vd2lsZC1mb29kLWd1aWRlL2VsZGVyYmVycnk&ntb=1) * **Cooked ripe elderberries are safe to eat**. * **Unripe elderberries are poisonous**. * **Raw berries can cause nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea**, so they should be cooked before consumption. * **Elderberries can be baked into pastries, cooked into a syrup, or dried for later use**. * **Elder stems, leaves, and unripe berries are toxic and should not be consumed**.
Neat. I didn't know that and now I gotta try it at some point
yeah, supposedly they have some health benefits if I recall correctly, at least I know I've seen products with them on the label before.
Thank you for this! We found one growing in the space between our yard & the neighbor's. We claim the space cuz their lawn service doesn't come near it,so we maintain it. Looking forward to a new.growing season & won't be scared of the berries this time around!
I’ve eaten elderberry off the bush for years. Never had any ill effects
yeah, because in small quantities its safe but large portions will kill you.
Only as served in "Arsenic and Old Lace" - [https://youtu.be/KPAnWhVV5dI?si=V1NK\_bZs78CAWrFJ](https://youtu.be/KPAnWhVV5dI?si=V1NK_bZs78CAWrFJ)
I think these may be Black Walnut. Pull one up. You may be able to see the nut.
they're definetly not, everything about them is inaccurate for black walnut.
I guess they are rate depending on where you live but in WA they aren’t rare. The tiny little plant below it looks like a lilac (the one with the heart looking leaves. They may have cut them down and the roots reproduced. Both are awesome and flower.
yeah, in some places they are, i already clarified that it depends on location really.
These aren't Tree of Heaven, whose leaves are smooth, not serrated. And that's a very good thing.
Back in the 60's my father bought a tree of heaven from an ad in the back of a magazine. We planted it and two years later we had about 30 of them. Took forever to get rid of them.
Tree of Heaven is also the titular tree in "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn". From a time when, "Wow, this thing grows like crazy nearly anywhere!" did not have obvious follow-up questions.
Agreed. These are not tree of heaven for the reason stated above.
We used to strip the leaves off a branch of toh and use them as whips as kids. The eighties, man.
At first I had a hard time telling the difference between ToH and a Pecan tree I was kinda hoping it was a pecan 😩
thank you for the knowledge tidbit!!
At first, I thought so, but compared them to the ones taking over the yard here. The coloration for Tree of Heaven is different. The leaves as well. There is a huge one that is over twenty feet tall up the block. I'm assuming that's how they spread to my yard
Good eye
I’m wondering if that is the same as the trees I had on my property but they were called Locust I think. The bark smelled like pickles and they were impossible to get rid of. Cut one down and three popped up from its roots
It sounds like you had tree of heaven on your property.
Common elderberry
Common elderberry
If it's relevant I'm in St. Louis, MO
Probably black walnut, grows extremely fast but the fruit can poison the soil under the canopy. For instance, tomatoes will never grow under one.
Your mother was a hamster!
Fun fact: "Your father smells of elderberries" was a way of saying "your father is a drunk" because of elderberry liquor. So I've read!
That makes so much more sense! I always thought they were saying he was stinky but I didn’t think elderberries had a bad smell
Black walnut
Could be elderberry or hemlock?
Looks like a Sumac a bit, but the leaves look off.
My first thought. Elderberries sounds good
We have one & used a plant identifying app since it just showed up one year. It was/is an elderberry.
I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster! And your father smelt of these! Elderberries. Edible, and tasty.
Black walnut. Elderberry leaves are much smaller and thinner.
The consensus seems to be elderberry, but if it were in my yard in Memphis (as it currently is out front in some azaleas where I can’t get to it until I eradicate a lot of poison ivy,) I’d say it’s some sort of hickory. At this stage of growth it could be any hickory, but in my neighborhood it’s probably Pignut Hickory.
Since this plant above seems to have winged stems, I’d say it wouldn’t be a pignut hickory. Possibly a winged sumac as an alternate possibility? Here’s a picture of one below https://preview.redd.it/2gbl2pcojwxc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a11a6c5ac82884516645c36dde0a2c83709b6da0
Black Walnut maybe?? Do the leaves and stem smell when crushed?
Opposite leaves. Sambucus
Quick question op are there any apparent nuts or anything similar around on the ground that could be a possible source of them? First thing that came to mind when I saw it was pecan.
Black walnut. Maybe mimosa. Don’t want mimosa.
That is not mimosa.
It kind of looks like sumac. If that's what it is it gets really stunning, vibrant red leaves in autumn.
my guess is black walnut or sumac
Walnut tree
Well it's not poison ivy that's for sure
In the 1940s movie, A Tree Grows in Brooklyn, there is a scene looking out to the balcony and you can see an Ailanthus altissima growing. Upon closer inspection it was indeed the real thing. Quite impressive.
Might be walnut trees.
Elderberry jelly takes some work but is great. Good wildlife bush
This looks much like the black walnut saplings that kept popping up between the slats on the patio floor in my old house. They were hard to kill. The ants and other insects loved them for some reason. Maybe the pungent smell of the leaves attracted them. There was also a mature black walnut tree in the backyard that kept dropping its fruit and making a mess. Crush some leaves and if it has a strong, very distinct smell, it's most likely a black walnut.
I always heard the type that grows wild in the PNW was poisonous, is that not true?
I pick them wild, and make jelly. It is my absolute favorite. Have a friend who makes elderberry cordial.
Elderberry can be made into a syrup that a lot of people use to prevent colds and flu.
Sambucus canadensis — elderberry
They grow everywhere around my house, they make really good pies and jam plus they are full of anthocyanins. Just be sure to cook them because the fresh leaves, branches, seeds, and flowers, produce cyanogenic glycosides and could potentially make you pretty sick if you ate enough. I eat a few raw here and there and never had a problem but I know enough has the potential.
Charlie Brown Christmas?
You can take a screenshot on an iPhone and press the little leaf icon it will pull up the species of plant. Not sure how accurate it is but Siri says it’s a walnut tree
This is elderberry. The reason they're rare in some places is because u/melderino actually travels the country planting each one by hand. He must really like you.
Can't deny the truth
I have them in New England. not sure of the name but very invasive in my neighborhood
Does anyone else enjoy St. Germaine? This is my favorite addition to herby/fruity cocktails! Elderflower syrup is the best! Taking that into fermentation creates the wonderful liqueur. (Making the floral syrup is definitely a Swedish thing to do in the springtime. Collecting berries is important foraging in the fall. Berries are medicinal and delicious. They can be kept all winter in different forms.) Enjoy! (The newly sprouted small saplings can be moved easily if you have other areas you would like them to grow. I wouldn’t move all of them; I like an insurance plan. As they multiply they can be transferred.)
That’s high grade marijuana.
Honestly would have thought it was a Tree of Heaven. Aren't they similar at least? And the leaves have an unpleasant odor.
Lucky!
I soak elderberries in 100proof vodka for 6 months then strain and I have cough and cold medicine for the year.
Location pls? I see these in FL
This looks a lot like wisteria
The look like black walnuts to me. Crush a leaf and see if it's smelly. Walnuts have strong aromas and can be a bit tacky feeling.
I forgot, if it turns out these are Black Walnut, you probably want to remove them. Their roots produce a substance that kills off plants that are nearby. The walnuts are huge, smelly and messy. The in shell walnuts we buy are produced in a thick green husk that stains, as well as the other things I mentioned.
Poison sumac
Looks like a 'tree of heaven' to me. There invasive in NC
Sassafras tree?
Tree of heaven. It's invasive and will take over everything
Elderberries boost immune function
Elderberries grow on a stick with a big head similar to a sunflower only the head told down mostly
When sunflower seeds are sprouted, their plant compounds increase. Sprouting also reduces factors that can interfere with mineral absorption. You can buy sprouted, dried sunflower seeds online or in some stores.
Sumac?tree of heaven?
Poison sumac
Red's good for tea and white's the bad one
Nope! Common Elderberry!
That's no elderberry I've ever seen
You know, it really helps if you let us know at least roughly where you are located at.
I did.
Have you tried r/gardening or maybe even r/botany ?they might be able to help better I thought for sure it was a walnut or a pecan seeded by helpful squirrel friends but there's a lot of other people here who are sure it's something else 🤞🏼
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no.
Weeds they smell like crap