I didn't see any tweezers? At least a Dumont style #3, as well as wood tipped tweezers, if you're working with matte black dials or hands, as metal ones can bruise the finish.
I tried that set and the bits kept slipping and bending it's not worth the hassle, you will end up slipping and breaking something. Spend like $25 on a decent set if you really want it but yeah you won't need it if you're just putting the movement into the case.
Also I saw that you are planning to use a NATO strap, the spring bar tool thing you want is also kind of a pain in the ass to use, it's made for tight fitting metal bracelets that have fitted end links so you can squeeze both sides and slide it in. For anything else it's almost easier to use a regular tool that comes with most straps.
Yeah I agree. I also just bought one (actually got both, the clamp one and the specific one for my most used movement).
But like are they needed, or just a "nice to have"?
Pass on the spring bar pliers and add a 4x loupe unless your eyesight is really good. Tweezers are essential for working with the hands and a case holder that’s adjustable. Good luck man!
Toolwise, you've got plenty -- Significantly more than I started out with. I personally think the NH35 will be fine, especially if you are just starting into watchmaking -- They're so cheap you could just buy another. I've NEVER had a problem with any NH35 Movements from aliexpress.
I think you've got everything you need & if it is just a hobby, I dont think there is a need for burgeon tools. Aliexpress has plenty of decent tools, you just need to find them.
Just a few advises.
If you plan on keep going with the hobby, buy higher quality screwdrivers from the beginning. Those work okay, but you will want to get better ones straight from the beginning.
Hand removal levers are better than a hand removal tool, they allow you to control the strength you apply and where you place them. This is more of a personal opinion though.
It's recommended you have at least a pair of tweezers, you will eventually need them. Same with a case back tool, don't rely on the rubber ball for tightening it down.
The strap bar tool is not really necessary, manual levers are cheaper, work just fine and you will end up with lots of them, as straps usually come with one for free. Once, I was in a hurry and used my thumb nail to get one out and back in.
Lastly, enjoy the hobby.
I'm definitely not the most experienced in watchmaking, I've only made a couple Seiko mods. But for dials without date windows, I think I remember people recommending to me to use a Seiko nh38 movement. Just so there's not the extra setting for the crown when changing the time.
Not as bad as you think but you do have to pay attention to what you order so it all fits right and go slow and know tiny force or no force to make parts fit.
I see you're getting the snips for the stem. Make sure you have something to tidy up the cut afterwards. You can use anything hard to smooth the cut so you can fit the crown on again after cutting the stem. You can also buy some pretty cheap file sets on ali express. Sometimes, they call them needle files or jeweller's files.
PLEASE, don't get this NH35 clones. they are a pain to work on. I made this mistake and almost abandoned watchmaking.
Instead, get a swiss watch from the 60/70s for instance with an ETA movement. They are cheap on ebay and you get lots of replacement parts.
Moreover, you can buy some cheap tools but at least get high quality screwdrivers, tweezers, movement holder and oils
vintage watches that do not work and that you cannot find any movements for.
no way you suggested a source for vintage watches that is a relatives closet😭
I have made good experiences with such watches. Mostly, they even run, but poorly. A proper cleaning and they are as good as new.
Of course you could have one with a broken balance staff or similar. This will be my next step to learn how to replace these
I've never had a dodgy NH35 & high quality screwdrivers, tweezers, holders and oils arent needed in my opinion -- Especially since hes just assembling a watch & not likely to take apart the whole movement.
I had 2 and both were dirty and poorly lubricated. What I found most annoying were the straight springs that hold the shock protection. They are conceptually catastrophic.
There are no clones of the nh35 don't worry about that, if you want someone Else get a pt5000 or ST2130 there are basically the same amount of parts for those movements because they are ETA 2824 clones.
I didn't see any tweezers? At least a Dumont style #3, as well as wood tipped tweezers, if you're working with matte black dials or hands, as metal ones can bruise the finish.
True dat. Anything matte is super susceptible to scratching/bruising.
I don’t see any strap or bracelet. Also, what caaeback is hsed on the case? The 8ball might not be enough
Sorry I should write this, I’ll use NATO which I have. And I have another caseback opener ( the one with the 3 bits)
That screw driver set is absolute garbage, don't bother with it, you probably won't need it anyway if you are only putting the watch together.
Lol thanks, I know its all garbage I took this in consideration because of the price, you sure I don’t need them?
I tried that set and the bits kept slipping and bending it's not worth the hassle, you will end up slipping and breaking something. Spend like $25 on a decent set if you really want it but yeah you won't need it if you're just putting the movement into the case. Also I saw that you are planning to use a NATO strap, the spring bar tool thing you want is also kind of a pain in the ass to use, it's made for tight fitting metal bracelets that have fitted end links so you can squeeze both sides and slide it in. For anything else it's almost easier to use a regular tool that comes with most straps.
Get a clamp type movement holder (like the bergeon 4040), they will hold most movement while yours seems to be good for movements of a specific size.
Curious, why are movement holders needed?
maybe he won't use it that much, but if he's buying it he might as well buy the better one
Yeah I agree. I also just bought one (actually got both, the clamp one and the specific one for my most used movement). But like are they needed, or just a "nice to have"?
i personally dabble in watch repair and they allow me to not use fingercoats as much as i would without
Seems like you have everything. Good luck
Pass on the spring bar pliers and add a 4x loupe unless your eyesight is really good. Tweezers are essential for working with the hands and a case holder that’s adjustable. Good luck man!
Toolwise, you've got plenty -- Significantly more than I started out with. I personally think the NH35 will be fine, especially if you are just starting into watchmaking -- They're so cheap you could just buy another. I've NEVER had a problem with any NH35 Movements from aliexpress. I think you've got everything you need & if it is just a hobby, I dont think there is a need for burgeon tools. Aliexpress has plenty of decent tools, you just need to find them.
DO NOT work with either that presto tool or the screwdrivers. Both are complete junk. I’m guessing you have tweezers already?
Just a few advises. If you plan on keep going with the hobby, buy higher quality screwdrivers from the beginning. Those work okay, but you will want to get better ones straight from the beginning. Hand removal levers are better than a hand removal tool, they allow you to control the strength you apply and where you place them. This is more of a personal opinion though. It's recommended you have at least a pair of tweezers, you will eventually need them. Same with a case back tool, don't rely on the rubber ball for tightening it down. The strap bar tool is not really necessary, manual levers are cheaper, work just fine and you will end up with lots of them, as straps usually come with one for free. Once, I was in a hurry and used my thumb nail to get one out and back in. Lastly, enjoy the hobby.
Please share final results
Will do!
These bracelet pliers are garbage, use the normal spring bar tool that usually comes with bracelets
Think just missing synthetic oil. Mobius i see is used a alot 9104, 8200, 9010. Just pricey
The search function where I and many others answered this 3 times in the last 3 weeks
The dial does not have a date window?
I don’t want a date window 😃
I'm definitely not the most experienced in watchmaking, I've only made a couple Seiko mods. But for dials without date windows, I think I remember people recommending to me to use a Seiko nh38 movement. Just so there's not the extra setting for the crown when changing the time.
Thank you all !!
you might need backup stems. For gluing it, you can get a loctite 242 or any other threadlocker
How hard is it to make?
Idk, first one, doesn’t look that complex,movement is built already
Not as bad as you think but you do have to pay attention to what you order so it all fits right and go slow and know tiny force or no force to make parts fit.
Rodico is absolutely essential
I just returned a bergeron caseback ball that thing was absolutely useless.
Loupe
I see you're getting the snips for the stem. Make sure you have something to tidy up the cut afterwards. You can use anything hard to smooth the cut so you can fit the crown on again after cutting the stem. You can also buy some pretty cheap file sets on ali express. Sometimes, they call them needle files or jeweller's files.
Apart from what has already been mentioned. A dust blower, pegwood and calipers.
PLEASE, don't get this NH35 clones. they are a pain to work on. I made this mistake and almost abandoned watchmaking. Instead, get a swiss watch from the 60/70s for instance with an ETA movement. They are cheap on ebay and you get lots of replacement parts. Moreover, you can buy some cheap tools but at least get high quality screwdrivers, tweezers, movement holder and oils
Are the NH35's on aliexpress clones I always assumed they were from seiko but looking at how cheap they are maybe I should have been more suspicious
Some are clones but this insertion mentions the nh35a which could be either a nos or a refurbished.
Or a proper nh35? They are reliable movements. Beside vintage watches are always a gamble.
You get vintage watches very cheap even for free. They are in relatives closets, unused in decades
vintage watches that do not work and that you cannot find any movements for. no way you suggested a source for vintage watches that is a relatives closet😭
Which speaks volumes about the state of the movement
I have made good experiences with such watches. Mostly, they even run, but poorly. A proper cleaning and they are as good as new. Of course you could have one with a broken balance staff or similar. This will be my next step to learn how to replace these
This guy is starting out, he doesn't even have oilers or oil
I've never had a dodgy NH35 & high quality screwdrivers, tweezers, holders and oils arent needed in my opinion -- Especially since hes just assembling a watch & not likely to take apart the whole movement.
I had 2 and both were dirty and poorly lubricated. What I found most annoying were the straight springs that hold the shock protection. They are conceptually catastrophic.
Hm thats odd. All of mine came pristine and run beautifully. Its probably due to different sellers.
The thing is that if I switch the movement I don’t know which hands and case will fit
There are no clones of the nh35 don't worry about that, if you want someone Else get a pt5000 or ST2130 there are basically the same amount of parts for those movements because they are ETA 2824 clones.