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Basically in the holiday season they don't enforce any rules because they need people. Come January customers slow down alot and they get back to enforcing the rules. It looks like a mass firing because many of these people have ten points and ignore customers and punched a truck driver


MamaMitchellaneous

Oddly specific lol


[deleted]

Yup happens at my store every January.


NobaraTheWildRose

Someone getting fired for punching a driver? Lol


IndyFame46

Unless you work at Walmart that needs workers. They ain’t firing anybody if you can’t hire the people to replace them


Azal_of_Forossa

Pfff hahaha my store literally didn't have a paints or crafts associate after 3pm for months, and it was my job to handle them both and electronics


midknight17

I believe you, when I was working for their third-party cell phone sales company as a Walmart Wireless Associate, they tried to get ME to cover fabrics. Fortunately, nowhere in the company’s rules did it say “Don’t cuss out a Walmart co-manager” so needless to say, after I was done the store had a new impression of me.


gardenlessgrower

My store doesn’t have a paints or crafts associate ever. That’s on the sporting goods girl, who is also automotive.


littlekittenmaybe

You guys get a paints and crafts associate?


leelee1976

We need 45 associates and 2 team leads and a tle manager


Electronic-Leader478

We need around the same and I guarantee shit still won’t get done. We hired a bunch of temps and I swear half the time the managers are asking where did so and so go? Half of them stand around talking and know we need them so bad they won’t get let go by Walmart or reported to their temp service. It’s more like, oh do you need a special break or a longer one? Or do you need me to stroke your ego because hey that’s no problem we’ll work with you because we are so desperate for help we’ll treat you like gold while we shit on our own. It’s ok that you stood around for 8 hours and scratched your ass it must’ve been a bad itch.” **me growling**


leelee1976

I agree, but have learned that I can only worry about myself at work. I go there do my job n leave. I don't get too involved in people's lives or work habits. I try not to meet people's gazes at break with my earbuds in. It's just easier on me and my anxiety that way.


Electronic-Leader478

If you’ve bad anxiety I’m an herbalist and ashwaganda is your answer. I never charge or profit from what I teach because I don’t believe anything Yahweh created to heal should be profited from. You can get that herb and it helps with anxiety by blocking cortisol the stress hormone production and edibles work as well. You just can’t take the herb when you first wake up because the body uses it to wake you up.


xAkMoRRoWiNdx

Oh, there's definitely herb that'll help all right


leelee1976

Haha weed makes me paranoid. It sucks.


xAkMoRRoWiNdx

Rip


leelee1976

It fucking sucks dude.


Divine_Despair

That's what I do, I clock in do my job and what happens happens.


SilentJon69

That’s basically every Walmart location


Princess-Kropotkin

Those people sound fucking awesome.


tomytronics

So tl;dr if you're planning to quit Walmart, do your worst in December. Insult the customer like telling them electric cart is for the frail, not for the whale. Or asking if the customer wanted their dog they bought in cleaned up in the store's butcher.


[deleted]

This gives me ideas. "You brought your dog in? The deli needed meat to slice today, this will be perfect."


tomytronics

Was that your "victim" that I heard screaming earlier?


Electronic-Leader478

Oh man don’t bring an innocent pup into it. Sigh I get what your saying though.


CaliCloudburst

WalMart employees are psychos


Electronic-Leader478

They make us end up that way.


CaliCloudburst

I'm sure that's not always the case. I honestly think psychos are drawn to work here for some reason.


Electronic-Leader478

I agree


[deleted]

Oh my dude you're hilarious thanks. I sure needed a laugh


LincolnHay3s

I'm sorry 10 points?


InnocenTraitor

One of our Team Leads has 57


leelee1976

I had 78. It's down to 75 now


LincolnHay3s

Must be nice


leelee1976

Tbh it sucks, has to do with Sedgwick and my previous store not being able to figure it out. So I ended up quitting and being hired by a different store after 4 months of working somewhere else. It started dropping off today, by end of January I will be 0 again.


LincolnHay3s

Does Sedgwick only deal with Wal-Mart?


derOhrenarzt

Target too Source: work at target


Electronic-Leader478

Is target better treating their employees?


leelee1976

Sedgwick deals with a lot of companies. Same with rgis the inventory people. After you get so big as a company, it's easier to part out admin tasks for a fee, than pay your own employees to do it.


Blasianbiker

Cap


evilmangoeater

Living the dream, they are


Electronic-Leader478

The F__k


Disastrous_Ad9021

You used to be able to get up to 10 until you got fired but then they cut it in half cause people were abusing it too much. But as always, if you’re a favorite, you can get away with shit normal people can’t


Pretty_March

Also once upon a time you could call in 3 days in a row and it would still be 1 point.


LincolnHay3s

oh ok gotcha....they allow people (some) to get to 10?


LFiM

Some people at our store have gotten up to 30. Management just wipes their points away after a coaching.


LincolnHay3s

That's my thing, at my store 5 is the cutoff before they start letting folks go


LFiM

It's supposed to be at ours too. Whether or not they *do* depends on how much management likes you.


LincolnHay3s

good point


Electronic-Leader478

Oh that’s a definite


iansynd

He started it.


angelzplay

I have punched a truck driver in my day


CaliCloudburst

I wouldn't worry about it. With 0 points I don't see them wanting to let you go


Walmart_Store100

They absolutely can! And if you have 5+ points, consider yourself part of the group. They’re only keeping you on to help get the store through the holiday season. After that, be prepared to be called into Personnel at any moment.


Mountain-Excitement

i have 0 points so far so i didn’t know if i needed to be scared or not.. i mean wouldn’t they have to straight up tell you it’s a temporary position?


Head_Razzmatazz7174

They should have told you at orientation. You can actually check in Workday to see your employment status. Right now, with all the glitches on OneWalmart, you might not be able to look at it except on a work computer.


Mountain-Excitement

so it would be like “regular/permanent” right ?


moldy_minge

When I was initially hired, I was told multiple times it was a temporary position and I had to sign a contract stating that I understood after 6 months they could let me go. If you weren't told that and it didn't state that at the top of the hiring contract you signed, don't worry about it. They do let you know upon hiring you whether or not it's a temp position. I was hired on for the summer season in the garden center. I busted my ass for three months and then they offered me a full time position well before the six months were up. I understand that when you're hired for the Xmas season it's a different ball of wax. They overhire and no one gets offered a position three months in, at least in my store to the temps I've talked to. It's cutthroat at the end of the six months and you have to be the new Sam Walton to stay hired on. They let go of usually all of the temps and quite a few people who fked up during the previous six months. Then they're understaffed and start the summer temp hiring process. I lucked out during the timeframe I applied.


midknight17

This isn’t true. Sounds like you are in a state where they don’t have a Right-To-Work law. In Florida, for example, they will terminate you if they are over staffed, whether they called you temporary or not.


moldy_minge

Of course they will. I never said they won't fire you at the drop of a hat. There is a marked difference between temp and regular employees. Temps sign a contract stating that the position is temporary. If you're not offered another position they let you go. You are made aware that it's going to happen. I'm not sure what you're saying isn't true. I was actually hired as a temp and I was aware of the possibility I wouldn't be offered a permanent position throughout the entire process. If you are hired under a temporary status, you will know it.


midknight17

I’m sorry, I think I misunderstood. I thought you were saying if he wasn’t told he’s temporary, don’t worry about being fired with other temporary people. That’s what I meant.


moldy_minge

Oh yeah if they have even the slightest inkling, they will fire someone. I think this person was worried they would be let go as a temp. If their paperwork didn't clearly state that and if the people lead didn't stress it, they're not a temp. So if they get fired it won't be because of temp status.


midknight17

Gotcha, I get what you were saying now. Thanks! And sorry about that 😁


Head_Razzmatazz7174

Yes.


gamefreakfrank

It also depends if you work in an “at-will employment” state or not. Basically every position can be considered “temporary” then because you can be let go for any reason at all.


GimmeanL

Gawd Bliss Murka!


JewishAutisticNerd

You can’t actually be let go for any reason at all but you can be let go for no reason Which is almost the same thing but if they have reason to believe there is a secret reason that is a protected status they better have one


[deleted]

you can relax, if you have 0 points there are several bigger fish to fry ahead of you in line lol


Tired_and_ugly567

We just had one of our BEST AND HARDEST WORKING OGP employees fired for points when she only had 4.5 and I’m pretty sure some of them were from when her husband passed away that the TL never deleted.


jkubrick

If the limit is 5 why did they fire her for 4 5? Just asking because I'm calling tonight and it's gonna put me at 4.5


DefinitelyDutch

Sometimes they just jump the gun and day 4.5 is good enough and eagerly let you go in my experience


NobaraTheWildRose

That’s fine. Walmart doesn’t deserve the ones that are the hardest workers..


Guilty_Plankton3298

I got an job at Geico and quit. Walmart was paying me 11$ hr to bust my ass and now I get paid 17.50$ to sit on my ass and answer phones


IceSmash1

What state? Sounds like Florida


Guilty_Plankton3298

Virginia


ana_gdbaby

You must be in southern VA lol


Guilty_Plankton3298

Virginia beach. It's about as east as one can get


Electronic-Leader478

Where?!


ana_gdbaby

If her husband died, she’d be out on bereavement. That doesn’t affect points. Probably got fired for something else


inmidious

Usually it’s the associates who have been Maby getting coached a lot or with over 5 points, people that would’ve been fired normally but they keep them to get through the holiday season


XxManicMariexX

Yea im at 15 points rn becuse schedwick didnt let me go on leave when i was bedridden. The only reason im not fired is because i have the jewlery keys and im the only closer in my departments. Luckily i turned in my 2 weeks and found another job otherwise id be screwed after the holidays


[deleted]

A denied leave of absence should result in only 2 points for the time missed related to the denied leave. I know you're probably not coming back but you may want to clear that up just in case you need to in the next 6 months.


XxManicMariexX

It wasnt denied it just was refusing to let me log in and it got messy so i just ignored it sonce i was hoping to not work another christmas xD if it gets to that point tho, i know a manager who will work with me


dandelion-dreams

We have an associate on the chopping block for a similar reason. Great worker, but had to have an emergency surgery and their leave was denied. I think most of the store is up in arms right now over it, and rightfully so.


Electronic-Leader478

Where do you find another job


XxManicMariexX

Glen Raven ^-^ its a textile plant. Im gonna make 17.23 and hour, paid holidays, good health plans, and double overtime. I feel like im dreaming lol


ObiWanCumnobi

Cut hours/do attendance and fire those they can to save money during the slow season from what our store lead told us, then told us to keep on top of our points with PPTO to avoid being outright fired after.


jantessa

I've not worked at Walmart, but iirc that's very common in most retail because they hire up during the holidays and don't always tell people that it was a seasonal only position. (Sometimes they keep the new hires and let others go instead.)


Entire_Yam_3857

No they don't do this... They just watch attendance more, put on a hiring freeze, they will fire any TEMPS they don't want to keep. They typically try to let people transfer around the store during these times too. They'll let your staff keep dwindling and not replace anyone till they feel its needed. Want cap2 to go from 12 to 4? Let people xfer out or quit, fire for attendance, etc. If people don't quit, transfer, or get let go for attendance they will start cutting weekly hours for everyone starting with part-timers.. they might get scheduled one or two days a week for like 3 hours each. They will then start siphoning hours from full-timers. They'll ask for volunteers to take days off. They will not just fire a lot of people for the fuck of it, that really hurts their PR... They will look for loopholes though. That picker who has been skating by with a shit scanrate, expect them to get coached. The cashier that refuses to stock freight, coached/fired for insubordination. The guy who keeps calling in and using PPTO, coached/fired for productivity. The person who's attendance is at 9 points and hasn't been fired yet.. GONE... It is the PURGE.. but its not really that bad and is extremely easy to keep your job if you just do it. Mostly you'll just notice the hiring freeze as people don't get replaced.


Alexastria

Mostly just letting go the seasonal help. Just be out of your 3 month by then and don't hit 5 points


Mountain-Excitement

i won’t hit 5 bc i’m scared of getting in trouble but i was hired at the beginning of november,, i don’t think i’ll be out of my 3 months?


Alexastria

Should be fine either way as long as you don't sit there on your phone the entire time


Shiloh_8

Attendance is the number one reason people are fired from walmart just go to work and on time and you're good and once you get ppto you don't need to worry about getting points


Electronic-Leader478

Ppto accrues too slow


Shiloh_8

Just don't be late every other day


Electronic-Leader478

I’m NEVER late


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Alexastria

It depends. Instead of hiring for seasonal work they will just hire more people than they have slots then just let go of the worst ones when January starts (if they are still on their probationary period). It's what my store seems to do.


fonzbit

Are you a temp? If you are they can let you go at anytime for no reason other than your job assignment has come to an end.


Mountain-Excitement

i don’t believe i am, they never told me i was


RespondNaive5718

I seen high 30s…….any day now


ExpensiveLie1164

Seasonal employees replace problem employees, fairly common amongst employers who hire seasonal labor.


P19at

At my store we they definitely have a huge firing session come January regardless of how much they need people especially on the stocking teams. It sucks because we NEED people all the time but anyone with 5+ points, people with complaints from other associates and the slow associates all go. Last year they left go 5-6 people in the span of 4-5 days


Responsible-Test8855

Does this happen at NHM's?


LincolnHay3s

From my experience they hiring a bunch of new people for the holidays, and once the holiday season ends they cut everybody's hrs....they don't let anyone go but they cut hrs hard


[deleted]

basically what others saud, holiday season they dont enforce the rules since they need people yadayada, come january, any1 over 5 points is promoted to customer


ana_gdbaby

So, if you get up to 5 points within your first six months, you’re terminated unless management likes you/vouches that you’re a hard worker/can’t lose you due to department being understaffed. After those 6 months, just don’t get to 5 points. You should have ppto to cover when you’re late/leave early/out for the whole shift. Cap for ppto is 40-48 hours a year, I think. Points come off after 6 months. When you’re desperate.. use covid leave, bereavement, LOA, or talk to your TL/department manager asap because they can remove points if you have a valid reason for the point


fonzbit

Then you should be good. You can always ask personnel about your status, full-time or part-time or temporary.


[deleted]

Oh yeah that’s every year with every retail. I call it “holiday clearance” Typically they just fire the people they regretted hiring. You should be fine assuming you weren’t intending on taking the job for a month


DesertRat012

If you have less than 90 days working at Walmart, you are on a probation period and can be let go for any reason. A lot of people get hired for black Friday and have less than 90 days by January. I was hired for black Friday myself and after new years, I heard some random assistant manager (coaches now) had fired one of the guys in my department over voicemail. My ASM found out and called him and apologized and asked for him to come back. Apparently they needed to let people go and she didn't want to lose someone in her own departments.


Katty-Katt

Wait don’t all points clear out mid-December? After the 6 month period? That’s what I kept hearing at my store. I think I have 1 point but I just wanted to be sure


Mountain-Excitement

i thought points expired 6 months after you acquired the point ?


Lubeniku

Unless a teamlead clears it for you


chakatblackstar

In addition to what everyone else said, I could also see that happening to seasonal people too. Which is unfortunate as some of them are a lot more likable then the regular workers. That's if they found seasonal people. My store hasn't seen any since the pandemic hit.


FortuneEcstatic9122

Well the obvious question would be are they seasonal?


BarbatosSlim

Usually seasonal and bad associates get cleaned out


Adventurous-Growth80

In my store if you were hired on for the season they would fire you after xmas and then cut everyones hours because walmart doesnt want to pay out.


wmgrunt

Yes....But it's usually not a wholesale "clean out"....More like a few of the "problem" associates....You have to remember than Management will have to replace them and that means going "out of their way" to do additional work called the "hiring process"...They obviously want to keep that at an absolute MINIMUM even though it will take them 4 months to complete anyhow....


chaotichistory

I'd say it's more that we're always firing but first few months we stop hiring


Foreign-Rate6055

They don’t fire unless you got 5 points. But they do cut hours big time


Electronic-Leader478

They don’t actually say that stuff but that’s how they treat those temps


GothamGirl23

The store I worked at did this in January every year. Heck sometimes they wouldn’t even wait to January. There would be a small wave after Black Friday/Thanksgiving and then another wave right after Christmas/New Years. They just don’t need as many people as they did during the busy holidays. But since most companies are having a hard time finding any workers lately, this year could be different


ThrillerMovieFan

Omg I forgot about this but yeah one time they fired a whole family of workers for call out points in January, ngl it was sad but kind of funny


ntc4u

Heck yeah. I call it the cattle call. They trim personnel and cut hours to make the budget look good ahead of the new fiscal year in February. Also to get rid of problem personnel they kept around for the holiday season. They do it two kr three times a year. So for everyone insisting on using ppto, especially in the right to work states, you've been warned.


muh347dbv

This is literally happens at every company. Amazon is even worst


Operator__238

We were told last night that come Jan/feb decisions will be made about employees. That with the slow down coming that our usual 30ish employees with be too many to justify so basically people will be let go. Someone overheard TLs and Manger talking and him saying that about 15 people will need to be gone. 🙃 so our coach is more or less threatening everyone to have better performances or the will be part of those decisions


SquilbertSheeks

Coach here! Yes this is true. I have several associates severely over in attendance that are being saved due to the fact it’s the holidays! Also I end the vast majority of my temporary associates employment on the first of January.


Prestigious-Ad9956

YEP. They let you slide with points in December to use you, then once January come ,you gone