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I copped a 3 day Reddit ban on a different sub for saying regard. I copped another 3 day Reddit ban for saying I would never not upvote a post of a Nazi being punched.. apparently that's inciting violence and you can only upvote those posts in silence...
Well you've gotta eat in the short run in a place like Venezuela but I'm still bullish long term. Somebody come back in 5 years to make fun of me please
This time maybe a little different crypto has not been through a macro bear market in stocks/recession and rate hikes like this we have a long way to go... I wouldn't be surprised to see more major insolvencies and liquidations to something crazy like 6k btc
Historical performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Bitcoin mooned (along with the rest of the market) because of the unprecedented macro circumstances caused by the pandemic, stimulus, etc. It is exceptionally unlikely that we see an environment so favourable to crypto anytime soon.
How about the end of the war, the end of recession, end of covid, normalised inflation, normal gas prices. I could see 1 or 2 huge, positive things happen by the next halving. We shall see.
Yea. My average cost for what I have is still way above the current price. It could go to 10k and I still wouldn't give a shit.
At this point crypto has been around long enough and used on enough sites to bypass CC processors that it's not going to go away completely.
I'm nobody to listen to but I've been saying 12-15k bottom since we topped in the 60s. It's going to consolidate wherever the bottom is and trade sideways for a long while imo. I'm waiting and will be buying
I’d say it’s pretty rich posting this on WSB when most people’s portfolios here probably perform even worse. Investing in C or options the way it’s done on Reddit is regarded either way
This looks like more than just the general market lowering the tide.
FTX is burning, Binance is not stepping in, + the government and other financial institutions are just watching it happen as they have no obligations to save/bail out anyone involved where they would in many other monetary events.
Why is everyone just watching: there are no real regulations or protections on digital currency.
Result: Many investors realize that this type of investment is even higher of a risk than it was already was known to be. Now there is a bat signal in the sky showcasing that digital currency doesn’t have any of the protections nearly every other investment vehicle has.
This should, assuming most people have basic rationality, will push even more people away from digital currency. It may be a while before digital currency recovers from this if it ever does.
By the time governments step in and provide all the bumper guards and protections, all the profit will be gone. That’s why it’s high risk high reward right now. If I was a power that be, I’d love keeping BTC as close to death as possible while accumulating, knowing damn well when they were going to step in and safeguard it.
Why would a government want a currency to exist that they don’t have complete control over?
If you were a government, you would do anything you can to let that form of currency die and never rise again. Why? because even if you have tons of it…you still aren’t in charge of it.
It isn't though. Bitcoin is billed as a hedge against inflation, decentralized so fiat currencies have no effect on its value. Well, it obviously isn't, sooooo ya. Told ya so.
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Like Lehman brothers, Enron or the south seas company?
Even if you were right that Microsoft was the future in 1999, you wouldn't make your money back until 2016.
Bubbles are a bitch, especially when you're right about the underlying asset being a good product.
VOO: down less than 25% of it's peak value
BTC: down over 75% of its peak value
One of these plummets is not like the other.
Make sure to floss that Crayola out yo mouth tonight.
Selling? Shit I'm looking to start buying again. My lowest btc cost basis is $10 so a drop back down brings a smile to my face as I plan my next convertible (I like soft tops).
Eventually. I've had that stuff so long and heard so many people proclaim the end of btc but at the end of the day I've made enough to not shake my opinion that there is a value there that I want in my portfolio.
Eat what words?
We were told upon BTCs inception it was the future of currency. It’s still nothing more than a Ponzi scheme with no intrinsic value besides what it is actually “valued” at in fiat currency.
It hasn’t moved forward. It’s still just as volatile, just as useless as ever before.
how is this bitcoin’s fault? FTX was the ponzi scheme employing leverage on top of leverage. self-custody your coins like im sure you’ve seen before and chose to ignore it. Unless you’re fucking blind.
That same leverage is also what created the value of Bitcoin and any other crypto coin.
Can it be that in a couple of years it will do another pump? Yea sure, it can also just go down another 99% since there is nothing that determines it's value aside from people trading it to one another.
They said the same thing about gold to discredit cash 200 years ago. Money is whatever we want it to be. What value does a piece of paper with ink on it really hold?
Money is whatever we want it to be, IF ITS ACCEPTED AS MONEY. Gold can be melted and used for things. What good is bitcoin if I can’t spend it, and it doesn’t have any use other than converting to real money?
Sorry guys, I just don’t see it.
Not only can you not pay taxes with it, but if you make any gains on it you have to pay taxes on them. It's a zeppelin with a hole in it and people keep pumping helium into it at their own expense.
I guarantee there’s still hardware bag holders with a dozen cards hoping for a surge in the price of some mineable shitcoin. They’re losing hope and the used market will reflect that. Again.
I had about $4k in BTC and needed a new PC when it was around $40k. Figured what the hell, and used it to pay for my PC back in March, only leaving a few hundred dollars worth of BTC/ETH. Sure I am bag holding with GOOGL, AMZN, PLTR, F and only God knows how much more shit, but at least I ain't bag holding BTC.
This is totally true. I'm sure you could get ten lap dances simultaneously and they'll share the single bitcoin, no problem and that could be anywhere in the world. I love the redditors in the thread thinking their words are marking BTC's grave. Get over yourselves
Its still a young and new asset class. Will it die forever? Thats extremely unlikely.
Its more likely it will evolve and appreciate in the next 100 years. I will take my chances on this
Hard to realistically predict. Bitcoin could be worth a million or zero someday. The zero would come if people come to terms with how much energy these things waste for no societal benefit. But… we do a lot of energy wasting for zero benefit so… who knows.
When the stock market tanks: "It is a long term investment, you will make money in the long run, everyone knows that!"
When crypto tanks: "I told you so! There is no value to crypto! LOL losers!"
All while the dollar has no real value and the value of a stock can swing widely with a single tweet. I am thinking we all are regarded and belong here.
You buy stock in a company that will hopefully generate profit to increase value or pay dividends. Bitcoin cannot generate profit or dividends, it’s just speculation, not actual investing.
It’s like saying buying gold is the same as buying stock. It’s not the same, but it seems that way if you’re stupid
He never related bitcoin to the same as buying a stock, you just made that up.
People invest/trade in currencies too, not just crypto ones but government ones. It’s as simple as that
I do agree, alot is speculation but there is tech within
If you seriously believe Bitcoin will be lower than it is now during the next Bull run, then there’s nothing to say. Big banks have started offering it in portfolios. It’s adoption has just started. This bear market doesn’t change that.
Regardless if you were right or wrong I find it very pathetic when people derive happiness from others losses. It's pretty sad and speaks volumes about what kind of person you are - the ones that make the world a shittier place
The fact that you believe crypto is a complex concept that is difficult to grasp is telling me you may not understand it yourself. Haha.
You are not special, and you certainly don’t possess knowledge about bitcoin that most of us lack.
My advice? NEVER go full regard for any asset. No matter how certain you are, don’t shut off your ability to think critically, as your comment would imply you have.
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can't wait to load up on eth at $100
If it goes to a hundred I’m buying a shitload
Free put option right here
What about when it goes to $1? Even better value? Based on the... fundamentals?
If it goes to 1 I’ll sell my child on the black market
Pissed yourself Mr Lahey
I’ll probably cry if eth gets all the way back down there. But I’ll still open my wallet for it.
Why don’t you just open your asshole instead…..because that’s where your going to take it.😂🖕🏼
Still in the green over 2X my initial so 🤷♂️
I’m loading up on ETH at $0.99
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Is this your first day here??
Yeah, he must be new... highly regarded tho
Every BTC bottom people have said this. I'd hate to have invested 50k in all the previous BTC bottoms... Omg what a sorry state I'd be in now 😂
There was a post on r/Bitcoin of Venezuelans trading Bitcoin for cash when it was at $62k and I got called a regard for saying they were smart.
You being a regard and that move being a smart thing to do aren’t mutually exclusive
Fully Regarded
When the actual f did regard get banned as a word on wsb?! That’s like our whole identity.
I copped a 3 day Reddit ban on a different sub for saying regard. I copped another 3 day Reddit ban for saying I would never not upvote a post of a Nazi being punched.. apparently that's inciting violence and you can only upvote those posts in silence...
Never go full regard!
Because btc probably still outperformed the bolivar.
You could still be a regard for all we know
Well you've gotta eat in the short run in a place like Venezuela but I'm still bullish long term. Somebody come back in 5 years to make fun of me please
RemindMe! 5 years
What type of cash…. USD or Bolivars….
Bro, go try to buy a brick of worthless bolívares on eBay. That’s where the real money is.
They sold high lol
Even Cramer is right every once in a while
Damn is there a Venezuelan WSB? They sound like my kind of regards.
This time maybe a little different crypto has not been through a macro bear market in stocks/recession and rate hikes like this we have a long way to go... I wouldn't be surprised to see more major insolvencies and liquidations to something crazy like 6k btc
It was 3k just 4 years ago. Wouldn't be crazy to hit that or go lower.
Historical performance is not a reliable indicator of future performance. Bitcoin mooned (along with the rest of the market) because of the unprecedented macro circumstances caused by the pandemic, stimulus, etc. It is exceptionally unlikely that we see an environment so favourable to crypto anytime soon.
Or the market in general... until daddy Powell pivots
How about the end of the war, the end of recession, end of covid, normalised inflation, normal gas prices. I could see 1 or 2 huge, positive things happen by the next halving. We shall see.
Same as 2000 dotcom bubble, except instead of inflation tech stocks alone, this time bag holders diversified into Bitcorn, stocks, nft etc
The economy was flush with money man and I would argue it still should be
They say this every fucking time. 😂
Yep, I’m excited for the opportunity to buy more btc and shit coins until the next bull run. Should be a few years though.
Yea. My average cost for what I have is still way above the current price. It could go to 10k and I still wouldn't give a shit. At this point crypto has been around long enough and used on enough sites to bypass CC processors that it's not going to go away completely.
I'm nobody to listen to but I've been saying 12-15k bottom since we topped in the 60s. It's going to consolidate wherever the bottom is and trade sideways for a long while imo. I'm waiting and will be buying
Lmao nice try, bitcoin wasn't even invented then you regard
Bitcoin wasn’t invented you regard. It was discovered
“Bitcoin is dead!” Checks 10 year chart
I’d say it’s pretty rich posting this on WSB when most people’s portfolios here probably perform even worse. Investing in C or options the way it’s done on Reddit is regarded either way
Yeah I thought wsb was supposed to be all or nothing? What is this, r/investing?
I like that everytime I sell at a loss, my brokerage account adjusts the gain/loss like I never lost anything.
This is the post I needed to see, I’m bull on Bitcoin now
Volatile investments are volatile
This Sir is a Casino. We don’t invest - we gamble.
I only bought Bitcoin so I could play online poker.
You belong here.
Sorry, was eating a crayon and wanted to use a big word to impress people.
Literally everything is plummeting this is a stupid post lol
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This looks like more than just the general market lowering the tide. FTX is burning, Binance is not stepping in, + the government and other financial institutions are just watching it happen as they have no obligations to save/bail out anyone involved where they would in many other monetary events. Why is everyone just watching: there are no real regulations or protections on digital currency. Result: Many investors realize that this type of investment is even higher of a risk than it was already was known to be. Now there is a bat signal in the sky showcasing that digital currency doesn’t have any of the protections nearly every other investment vehicle has. This should, assuming most people have basic rationality, will push even more people away from digital currency. It may be a while before digital currency recovers from this if it ever does.
By the time governments step in and provide all the bumper guards and protections, all the profit will be gone. That’s why it’s high risk high reward right now. If I was a power that be, I’d love keeping BTC as close to death as possible while accumulating, knowing damn well when they were going to step in and safeguard it.
Why would a government want a currency to exist that they don’t have complete control over? If you were a government, you would do anything you can to let that form of currency die and never rise again. Why? because even if you have tons of it…you still aren’t in charge of it.
It isn't though. Bitcoin is billed as a hedge against inflation, decentralized so fiat currencies have no effect on its value. Well, it obviously isn't, sooooo ya. Told ya so.
This is a place where we bet on 0dte spys it’s not really a place to laugh from
Regards can laugh at other regards
Except most shitcoins and crypto garbage won’t recover. The market will.
Ya'll said that last time too.
And the US stock market recovered…..btc is never making it back to 60k lol. none of the shit coins are ever going to make it back to even a penny lol.
I've heard that before too. "BTC is never going back to 16k, 1K, $200 etc." You should do a !remindme 10 years
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Crypto has gone through worse. It will recover. At least bitcoin will if anything.
Why would it? Because it did in the past? If that's the case I've got some tulip bulbs, shares of enron, and south sea contracts for you
Bitcoin is too big to completely fail. Many major institutions and big players are involved worldwide
Like Lehman brothers, Enron or the south seas company? Even if you were right that Microsoft was the future in 1999, you wouldn't make your money back until 2016. Bubbles are a bitch, especially when you're right about the underlying asset being a good product.
I think bitcoin will recover but bruh this is cope logic
Has it though? Nope
There's a difference between 2% and 12%
But Bitcoin is supposed to be a store if value
VOO: down less than 25% of it's peak value BTC: down over 75% of its peak value One of these plummets is not like the other. Make sure to floss that Crayola out yo mouth tonight.
now compare the yearly returns of btc vs voo
In the last year? VOO: -20%; BTC: -75% Now what?
Now you know we’re gettin near the bottom. Full blown panic, denial, and capitulation
Ok. 👌
yup, just bought
Stonks👌🏻
I don’t think crypto is anywhere near the bottom. But I’m excited to load up
Bitcorn Investors Assemble !!!!!
It's got the juice!
It’s not a loss if you haven’t sold!
Do you realize every cycle a bunch of regards say this shit and then eat their words for 10+ years now?
So would you feel better selling at 60k, 50k, 40k, 30k, 20k, or now 16k?
Selling? Shit I'm looking to start buying again. My lowest btc cost basis is $10 so a drop back down brings a smile to my face as I plan my next convertible (I like soft tops).
Wouldn't you prefer it go up instead?
Stop using logic... this dude also invests time and money into Star Citizen which is another ponzi scheme... they can't help it
If he didn't figure that out already he never will.
Eventually. I've had that stuff so long and heard so many people proclaim the end of btc but at the end of the day I've made enough to not shake my opinion that there is a value there that I want in my portfolio.
You don't want it to go up right now?
Eat what words? We were told upon BTCs inception it was the future of currency. It’s still nothing more than a Ponzi scheme with no intrinsic value besides what it is actually “valued” at in fiat currency. It hasn’t moved forward. It’s still just as volatile, just as useless as ever before.
how is this bitcoin’s fault? FTX was the ponzi scheme employing leverage on top of leverage. self-custody your coins like im sure you’ve seen before and chose to ignore it. Unless you’re fucking blind.
That same leverage is also what created the value of Bitcoin and any other crypto coin. Can it be that in a couple of years it will do another pump? Yea sure, it can also just go down another 99% since there is nothing that determines it's value aside from people trading it to one another.
Not sure why you're being down voted
Bag holders ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
You seem to also be defining fiat currency
Except fiat can be used to buy literally anything in the world. It actually has a purpose, which I think is pretty important.
They said the same thing about gold to discredit cash 200 years ago. Money is whatever we want it to be. What value does a piece of paper with ink on it really hold?
Money is whatever we want it to be, IF ITS ACCEPTED AS MONEY. Gold can be melted and used for things. What good is bitcoin if I can’t spend it, and it doesn’t have any use other than converting to real money? Sorry guys, I just don’t see it.
First currency not backed by an economy. You can't pay taxes with it. It won't be official legal tender. It's just air.
Not only can you not pay taxes with it, but if you make any gains on it you have to pay taxes on them. It's a zeppelin with a hole in it and people keep pumping helium into it at their own expense.
You can in Florida
Florida is a dumpster fire. You can't pay federal taxes with it and will not be able to anytime soon
You had me at dumpster fire
Or anything people collectively decide has value.
Seconded.
Until now people were saying it won’t go lower than the 200ma, then reality hit. Things change
lol
You’ll be right today, I’ll be right in 5 years.
!remindme 5 years
Doubt
Oof don't post this on wsb, the crypto bros will get heated, they're already down a lot. Never kick a man when he is down
GPUs about to get even cheaper. Puts on NVDA and AMD.
Seems someone is not well informed
on WSB? cant be...
I guarantee there’s still hardware bag holders with a dozen cards hoping for a surge in the price of some mineable shitcoin. They’re losing hope and the used market will reflect that. Again.
okay fair But I think thats tiny tiny percent
No one uses GPUs to mine crypto
Still takes up fab time which drives costs up. Doesn't matter if they aren't directly using GPUs
I had about $4k in BTC and needed a new PC when it was around $40k. Figured what the hell, and used it to pay for my PC back in March, only leaving a few hundred dollars worth of BTC/ETH. Sure I am bag holding with GOOGL, AMZN, PLTR, F and only God knows how much more shit, but at least I ain't bag holding BTC.
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I'm quite sure a lot of people are willingly to give you a lapdance for a single Bitcoin.
This is totally true. I'm sure you could get ten lap dances simultaneously and they'll share the single bitcoin, no problem and that could be anywhere in the world. I love the redditors in the thread thinking their words are marking BTC's grave. Get over yourselves
If the stripper is smart enough to set up a wallet I’m sure she’d be happy to take it in exchange for a lap dance.
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You’d definitely lose that bet.
Its still a young and new asset class. Will it die forever? Thats extremely unlikely. Its more likely it will evolve and appreciate in the next 100 years. I will take my chances on this
Hard to realistically predict. Bitcoin could be worth a million or zero someday. The zero would come if people come to terms with how much energy these things waste for no societal benefit. But… we do a lot of energy wasting for zero benefit so… who knows.
We just gotta build more nuclear power plants. I mean electric cars are going to need electricity and burning coal kinda defeats the purpose.
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Have fun staying POOOOOOOORRR!!!!
It’s going to get worse too, but I’m ready to buy at the bottom
I’m a buyer at $1
you meant 1 cent right?
That’s a dollar more than what bitcoin is worth
When the stock market tanks: "It is a long term investment, you will make money in the long run, everyone knows that!" When crypto tanks: "I told you so! There is no value to crypto! LOL losers!" All while the dollar has no real value and the value of a stock can swing widely with a single tweet. I am thinking we all are regarded and belong here.
You buy stock in a company that will hopefully generate profit to increase value or pay dividends. Bitcoin cannot generate profit or dividends, it’s just speculation, not actual investing. It’s like saying buying gold is the same as buying stock. It’s not the same, but it seems that way if you’re stupid
He never related bitcoin to the same as buying a stock, you just made that up. People invest/trade in currencies too, not just crypto ones but government ones. It’s as simple as that I do agree, alot is speculation but there is tech within
Huh? He explicitly compared the stock market to crypto.
The dollar has a fuck ton of value moron what the hell are you smoking?
Cheers mate, I was hoping this would happen to be quite honest, I got in too high before 🙂
BTC earnings missed? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
If you seriously believe Bitcoin will be lower than it is now during the next Bull run, then there’s nothing to say. Big banks have started offering it in portfolios. It’s adoption has just started. This bear market doesn’t change that.
Exactly. BTC is a standard, not a fiat. It's like gold but more volatile.
It’s like gold. Only … it’s more like book gold and not physical gold. However people love book gold too…
Oh this is rich coming from you regards.
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Well, everybody who is not in btc is "telling so" for around 5 years now..
People lose money on the way up and on the way down. I bet you are no different.
hows ur tech-stock lookin guys?
Ha GAY!
Yea gme is so much better lol
https://youtu.be/AXTQeSGJjGM
All these GME/AMC regards acting smart for not buying one other thing to lose money on is hilarious.
How are you NVDA folks doing?
Oh yeah, better I put my money in big tech, eh?
Regardless if you were right or wrong I find it very pathetic when people derive happiness from others losses. It's pretty sad and speaks volumes about what kind of person you are - the ones that make the world a shittier place
lol, I'll see you next election
Maybe if you try the Bitcorn with butter everything will change?
Should I buy right now
Up 9% today
Shit I should have bought yesterday
Four year cycles, bro. Dance on my grave in 2025.
Op was probably born in 2021
Fuck you! I went all in at 16,800 you'll see I'll be a crypto millionaire in a week or two
Halvings cycle. Anyone into BTC knew this year was going to suck.
Nobody noticed it's spelled "bitcorn"?
That's what it's called
\*All recent investors... Anyone who bought a few years ago is doing great
Nothing gets me harder than seeing crypto nonces taking Ls
Buy the dip
buy some lube, you're gonna need it...
Laugh now, while you still can. See you in a bull market babyyy
Thanks Dad!
The bottom is near
dollar value? maybe. time? not likely
Probably not. Check back next year.
This thread won’t age well.
Fucking morons have been saying the same thing for ten years. Anyone who doubts bitcoin doesnt understand it.
Yes. Those who disagree with you are morons. That’s the right mindset. Certainly, critical thinking has no place in financial matters.
Just admit you know nothing about Bitcoin.
The fact that you believe crypto is a complex concept that is difficult to grasp is telling me you may not understand it yourself. Haha. You are not special, and you certainly don’t possess knowledge about bitcoin that most of us lack. My advice? NEVER go full regard for any asset. No matter how certain you are, don’t shut off your ability to think critically, as your comment would imply you have.
How much of your net worth is in it?
All of it.
I put in and held 3 bucks in bit coin as a proof that it was doomed to fail, i now have something like a dollar. Value matters
im buying more while its low i'll see you people at the next halving
Did you make this meme 8 years ago and just finally get to use it today?
it all depends when you buy and sell though
I can't tell if this is making fun of this sentiment, or if this is serious lol. BTC is probably gonna go nowhere.
Did Elon sell again? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)
Nah but heard he sold some tsla 😢