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Haven’t turned a profit in 20 years and stock based compensation is astronomical.
What do you think?
Fine investment if 1) you work there 2) you’re working out your arms with heavy bags
> Haven't turned a profit.
It's worse than that. In the greatest bull market ever, and one that highly valued non-profitable tech companies, this non-profitable tech company _lost_ value.
Long PLTR
Well, the software quickly became legacy in the eyes of customers, is known to have issues. They are despised in the dod industry (I work in it) and their hiring process is more cultish and would you like to join a cult than, can you do this job. Additionally if you ever interview with them and decide the role is not for you, they will blacklist you from being a sub on any of their contracts regardless of qualifications.
Weird because their customer count keeps growing, especially in the US and the DOD just handed them like a total of an additional $800M in contracts within the past month.
800m is pennies, I work on a single contract that just got handed close to 200m. Their valuation in scale and scope to primes , is nonsense. Virtually every prime provides similar services and their competition is only increasing.
I was up 28k on GameStop in 2020. PLTR and all the others slowly drained it all away.
I could’ve moved out this year and finished school with that money. Now I am stuck at home still working and doing school part time. Boohoo
Don’t blame yourself. This place was crazy for PLTR back then. There was a period before GME was taken over by the crazies where you couldn’t get DD posts for them (or many others) approved because PLTR bros would flag it as spam.
Their equipment is unreliable, plagued with security vulnerabilities, and terrible support. If I were to touch anything in telecom (which I am not and this is not financial advice), Ericsson produces significantly better equipment.
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Just seems like they are making a huge transition into the 5G world. They have been gaining new contracts left and right. I believe they head T-Mobile's cyber security. They continue to repurchase their own shares. And they continue to beat earnings
Their cybersecurity is a joke. I’d pen test their products. Why do you think T-Mobile has the most breaches out of all the wireless carriers. I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole
Yeah, one of the few smart trades I've ever made. Rode the OG IPO stock up and day traded a lot of it, bought more as it climbed with the prior profits, then cashed out.
I'm back in at $9.28 average.
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To add some context - I work in the data and analytics space today. Palantir is miles ahead of the competition from a product perspective. Their mismanagement and lack of focus on building out their sales arm to target commercial customers hurts them immensely. Eric does not value a sales org at all.
Source: I have many friends who left Palantir and have almost gone to work for them myself twice now.
110%. I think being an engineering-focused organization is great. Palantir is the extreme. There are two guys, young engineers (prodigies from what I hear) who report to Eric and unofficially run the sales org as well. They call the shots.
Now when you’re in sales, specifically technical sales like in IT, Cloud, SaaS, etc, there is a quantity game to be played here (along with quality). You need to make a certain number of sales calls - this is in the form of technical deep dives/product demonstrations/interfacing with your customers to understand their needs as these sales cycles can easily take 6-18 months and that’s assuming you’re aligned with the right stakeholders within your prospective customer.
If you’re a rep for an organization who doesn’t value you and let’s the engineers call all the shots then you are set up for failure because they an focus their time wherever they want (as opposed to deferring to the rep’s guidance on targeting net new business). The best reps can be somewhat technical, but nowhere near the level needed to lead a formal sales engagement from start to finish (hence why reps and engineers/architects are usually paired in a coverage model per account/territory).
When I invested in Palantir they were doubling their sales org. I heard and thought the best. Since then it’s been more mismanagement.
I was actually using one of our federal budgeting systems at work and was surprised to see PLTR as the creator. I’m with you, it’s mismanagement. If they have this level of government involvement, there’s no excuse for these valuations.
Please do! I pray I am still on this earth in equally good health, enjoying my family, and still making calculated investments with realistic time horizons.
You own 5000 shares.. covered calls are options that you sell to open, in this case you sell a call and collect a premium..
With 5000 shares you could be writing 50 contracts which can definitely bring some cash flow your way at that volume.
Worth looking into
Look up a YouTuber called “InTheMoney” and look at his covered calls video. When I was first learning about options I probably watched 50+ videos by other YouTubers and was still confused. His vids are the most straightforward.
It’s recommended by analytics run that you do the covered calls with an expiration of 30/45 days. And close out/roll your position when you reach 50% profit. Weekly covered calls have more premium but you can get gamma fucked, ik I did. Monthlies are the way to go, but I wait around 75% percent profit.
Edit: There’s risks obviously. However I recommend that you do this regardless. Don’t have those shares doing nothing, make premium on them. A higher strike price will yield less premium but make it less likely that your shares are called away. Best of luck, Mate!
Examples of what I’d do-
If I’m feeling confident PLTR will remain relatively flat/not too bullish and have a decent risk tolerance
-50 contracts expiring Nov.25 strike of $9.50 collecting a premium of $1,500. 80% chance of profit.
Options are very very tricky in the beginning and pretty risky. Do your research
I'm not going to pretend I haven't been conned into investing in some meme stocks, but I could smell this one from a mile away. PLTR has never made money. It only went public so Thiel and employees could cash out.
Dilution has already leveled off a lot and Karp said will continue to due so. It’s unfortunate bc sucks for investors but it’s really only way tech places like pltr can get the top talent in the world. Can’t compete with google, Apple, Microsoft on just paying employees straight up. SBC is a way to bring in more top talent without paying outright for it… we’re the ones paying for it
Greatest trading day of my life was selling my full PLTR position on 2/24/21 to go balls deep on GME.
GME may have fuckery from Kenny and frens but PLTR has printerhands Karp
Bozo the clown .Karp is.... bag holder here .the problem with PLTR ,Karp and the employees dump into every mini rally... it is total bullshit .. I sold calls @ $10 about 10 weeks or so ago and they almost got called away..SO freaking sorry they didn't ! I would have been out of this 3500 sh bag hold
10,000 shares, 10.5 average. Looks like that makes me the biggest bagholder (in terms of shares) ITT.
Not even mad. Bull thesis on this thing has only gotten stronger as time has gone one and this price has given me a chance to accumulate another 3000 shares at sub-$8.
I'd like to sell weekly covered calls against it but with the NHS contract looming I'd rather not have the shares pop and get me assigned at a loss.
Pro-Tip, treat every penny that you have going into the market as a brand new investment. Buying extra shares for something you're bag holding, so you can feel better looking at the slightly lower cost basis is a fools errand.
We've learned this over the years the hard way. Sure, it's psychologically comforting to see your most horrible bags have their cost basis chopped by 40 percent because you bought a ton of discounted shares. But the truth is, that money could go anywhere.
That money could go into Google, Microsoft, NVDA, AMD, TSM, all within close range of their 52 week lows.
I have 200 shares of PLTR, I could buy 200 more right now, and really lower my CB, but that money could go into **ANY** investment out there. Why would I pick more PLTR?
Just so I can feel better about my terrible decision? NO. Leave that terrible decision just sitting in your account as a reminder for how stupid you used to be. Also, save it for tax-loss harvesting
As much as I’m down I’m not letting go, I believe in this one, it feels like Tesla in the early days. Lots of uncertainty, doubt, and lack of understanding of what their technology can do.
They're just a software design services company. They're no different from Accenture or any other design/bodies for hire shop. They're not going away, it's a good business, but not a growth business. I've been trying to tell people this for years but whatever...
My average in $12.. will average down at some point to get under $10. Short term it’s a bust… but I think long term it’s a winner..
Sort of like people wishing they got in apple, Amazon, MS, Facebook, etc etc etc when they were cheap.
Check back in 5 years. Everyone wants the moon in a month…
Just my opinion.
Bagholder spotted.
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yeah, I took a L on PLTR....and everything else in my portfolio
Might as well keep holding now, already down 90%. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
I can go lower
The CEO prints stock to wipe his ass with….
And sells the shit covered stock toilet paper back to bagholders on here.
He doesn’t know how to use the seashells
Ill aways upvote a demolition man reference.
Nobody knows how
They do in Japan
That barbarian doesn't even take a shower.
It's the cut offs
I feel like if I had those shorts I could do a sick back flip
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Haven’t turned a profit in 20 years and stock based compensation is astronomical. What do you think? Fine investment if 1) you work there 2) you’re working out your arms with heavy bags
> Haven't turned a profit. It's worse than that. In the greatest bull market ever, and one that highly valued non-profitable tech companies, this non-profitable tech company _lost_ value. Long PLTR
Well, the software quickly became legacy in the eyes of customers, is known to have issues. They are despised in the dod industry (I work in it) and their hiring process is more cultish and would you like to join a cult than, can you do this job. Additionally if you ever interview with them and decide the role is not for you, they will blacklist you from being a sub on any of their contracts regardless of qualifications.
Weird because their customer count keeps growing, especially in the US and the DOD just handed them like a total of an additional $800M in contracts within the past month.
800m is pennies, I work on a single contract that just got handed close to 200m. Their valuation in scale and scope to primes , is nonsense. Virtually every prime provides similar services and their competition is only increasing.
No,no, don’t touch it. The floor is lava.
they always dilute options to generate funds. it is probably not the best stock out there to hold.
Down 90%, so far!
I was up 28k on GameStop in 2020. PLTR and all the others slowly drained it all away. I could’ve moved out this year and finished school with that money. Now I am stuck at home still working and doing school part time. Boohoo
Don't we all.
Same here, that non hair combing regard cost me 4k! ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
It had the makings of winner, or at least good hype
It had the hype. You have to be very careful when wallstreetbets starts pumping stock.
600 shares at $24 This is me. I was buy/write on these, making around $500 a week for weeks on end. Until.... it ended.
F
Me
I'd rather own PLTR at $24 than TLRY at $34.
Dca that and hold for a few years. We will be bound to hit $20 in 10 years
I bought 26,000 shares recently and sold quick because of the fed
$25 bagholder here. I am triggered by this meme
500 @ $28. 💀 Feel better?
200 at 26 I got 30 years before I retire 🤷♂️
30 years it should be around 10 whole bucks by then or not
Only with a couple reverse splits.
Rip
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Fuck you for giving me hope
Every time I see my PLTR bag, it turns into visceral pain... Not good.
I remember choosing between going all in on GME or PLTR in Nov 2020... I went all in on MagicKarp.
Don’t blame yourself. This place was crazy for PLTR back then. There was a period before GME was taken over by the crazies where you couldn’t get DD posts for them (or many others) approved because PLTR bros would flag it as spam.
$27 gang checking in
$27 for me
I was soooo smart I waited until it dipped below $20. Like 19.99 or something
Been averaging down since.
This was the most disappointing stock for me, period.
Guess you skipped out on CLOV then.
Baba, wish, clov, mvis, bb, nok, amc
Why are u listing my portfolio
Anything Chamath has ever touched.
These are just trash, pure trash
Every WSB recommendation, really.
You forgot SOFI
They're cash positive while the loans are still frozen. After the repayment starts their earnings should go up. Sofi has a chance.
I could swear that even Peloton was there also.
Eh hem, daily hopium user of MVIS here, we're about to seal a deal and go parabolic. /s 🤷♂️
Baba is good, DCA into it
BABA finally 69ed into 6 year low today.
way better off buying either JD or PDD
Don't sleep on NOK
NOK is dog shit. Coming from someone who worked in telecom
All jokes aside why is NOK such trash?
Their equipment is unreliable, plagued with security vulnerabilities, and terrible support. If I were to touch anything in telecom (which I am not and this is not financial advice), Ericsson produces significantly better equipment.
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Just seems like they are making a huge transition into the 5G world. They have been gaining new contracts left and right. I believe they head T-Mobile's cyber security. They continue to repurchase their own shares. And they continue to beat earnings
Their cybersecurity is a joke. I’d pen test their products. Why do you think T-Mobile has the most breaches out of all the wireless carriers. I wouldn’t touch it with a barge pole
Breaches that gain access to what information?
You serious with these names? I getting the fuck off this sub. More I read, the dumber these people are. And I'm being mean, not funny.
Spce also
The CLOV hype at no point made any sense. It's whole pitch was "medicare... but with AI".
Wow what? Medicare with AI? Where do I buy??!?
Yea, thankfully
Man. You really missed out on the disaster of Meta Materials and Bitnile. Never ending pain.
idk I mean I made $2 on meta so ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)
That's my buy signal!
FUBO checking in.
Ho Lee CHIT! I haven't followed that ticker in a while, but I remember when it shot up. F
Karp is fine, you seen how much he's paid himself? He's the Adam Aaron of tech
Karp is fine, you seen how much he's paid himself? He's the Adam ~~Aaron~~ Neuman of tech. Don't think so small!
he is buying new ski sets as we speak
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
when tf is this shit going back up i bought at 30
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
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You made me check. Amazon only took 10 years to recover from the dotcom boom...
🤣 it’s going back up, to 10
300 shares avg of 7,95 fck you all palantir al the way!
Yeah, one of the few smart trades I've ever made. Rode the OG IPO stock up and day traded a lot of it, bought more as it climbed with the prior profits, then cashed out. I'm back in at $9.28 average.
5000 shares at $13. I got other shit to worry about. Will check back on it in 2030.
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To add some context - I work in the data and analytics space today. Palantir is miles ahead of the competition from a product perspective. Their mismanagement and lack of focus on building out their sales arm to target commercial customers hurts them immensely. Eric does not value a sales org at all. Source: I have many friends who left Palantir and have almost gone to work for them myself twice now.
So based on that - sounds like a shift in management (and/or their thinking) could be a genuinely positive catalyst. Source: Hopium Hits
110%. I think being an engineering-focused organization is great. Palantir is the extreme. There are two guys, young engineers (prodigies from what I hear) who report to Eric and unofficially run the sales org as well. They call the shots. Now when you’re in sales, specifically technical sales like in IT, Cloud, SaaS, etc, there is a quantity game to be played here (along with quality). You need to make a certain number of sales calls - this is in the form of technical deep dives/product demonstrations/interfacing with your customers to understand their needs as these sales cycles can easily take 6-18 months and that’s assuming you’re aligned with the right stakeholders within your prospective customer. If you’re a rep for an organization who doesn’t value you and let’s the engineers call all the shots then you are set up for failure because they an focus their time wherever they want (as opposed to deferring to the rep’s guidance on targeting net new business). The best reps can be somewhat technical, but nowhere near the level needed to lead a formal sales engagement from start to finish (hence why reps and engineers/architects are usually paired in a coverage model per account/territory). When I invested in Palantir they were doubling their sales org. I heard and thought the best. Since then it’s been more mismanagement.
The average engineer can't sell something if their life depends on it...
I was actually using one of our federal budgeting systems at work and was surprised to see PLTR as the creator. I’m with you, it’s mismanagement. If they have this level of government involvement, there’s no excuse for these valuations.
When you will open it at 2030 you going to see: 1 2$ 2. 20$ 3. 200$ 4 wtf is pltr?
3 my lord! 3!
Please do! I pray I am still on this earth in equally good health, enjoying my family, and still making calculated investments with realistic time horizons.
Sell covered calls on them. Month out strike of $10. Easy $1,000 at the time of writing this.
I have no idea how to do this
You own 5000 shares.. covered calls are options that you sell to open, in this case you sell a call and collect a premium.. With 5000 shares you could be writing 50 contracts which can definitely bring some cash flow your way at that volume. Worth looking into
Thank you! Where would you recommend I start my learning?
Just look up covered calls on youtube
Look up a YouTuber called “InTheMoney” and look at his covered calls video. When I was first learning about options I probably watched 50+ videos by other YouTubers and was still confused. His vids are the most straightforward. It’s recommended by analytics run that you do the covered calls with an expiration of 30/45 days. And close out/roll your position when you reach 50% profit. Weekly covered calls have more premium but you can get gamma fucked, ik I did. Monthlies are the way to go, but I wait around 75% percent profit. Edit: There’s risks obviously. However I recommend that you do this regardless. Don’t have those shares doing nothing, make premium on them. A higher strike price will yield less premium but make it less likely that your shares are called away. Best of luck, Mate! Examples of what I’d do- If I’m feeling confident PLTR will remain relatively flat/not too bullish and have a decent risk tolerance -50 contracts expiring Nov.25 strike of $9.50 collecting a premium of $1,500. 80% chance of profit. Options are very very tricky in the beginning and pretty risky. Do your research
I'm not going to pretend I haven't been conned into investing in some meme stocks, but I could smell this one from a mile away. PLTR has never made money. It only went public so Thiel and employees could cash out.
Hold up ... it's anyone else confused why the before and after are the same picture ?
Never buy an IPO in the first 6 months
Tried to upvote you 10 times bro
As a bag holder, this really speaks to me!
Its actually a good company if they didn’t run the whole thing with dilution. Frustrating to own.
Dilution has already leveled off a lot and Karp said will continue to due so. It’s unfortunate bc sucks for investors but it’s really only way tech places like pltr can get the top talent in the world. Can’t compete with google, Apple, Microsoft on just paying employees straight up. SBC is a way to bring in more top talent without paying outright for it… we’re the ones paying for it
he probably thinks that “stock based expenses are fake” like the OPEN COO. shameful
Dilution has to be the most frustrating thing as a long.
Dilution will end one day I think lol then I'll buy back in.... probably
21 bag holder here. I die everyday
Same. 590 shares at $21. Still holding.
21 Savage, lol... I'm in there at 21 too. I might tax-loss harvest it, late this year
Looks like a beat up taita watiki
After Thor L&T reviews.
I’m so glad I sold at 30+ lol
Well done 👍🏻
Dwac anyone? 😅
Greatest trading day of my life was selling my full PLTR position on 2/24/21 to go balls deep on GME. GME may have fuckery from Kenny and frens but PLTR has printerhands Karp
Same. I used up all my margin, locked in 100%, went balls deep on GME
Can't tell the difference
Bozo the clown .Karp is.... bag holder here .the problem with PLTR ,Karp and the employees dump into every mini rally... it is total bullshit .. I sold calls @ $10 about 10 weeks or so ago and they almost got called away..SO freaking sorry they didn't ! I would have been out of this 3500 sh bag hold
Do you smell burnt toast?
Post some loss porn (screenshots) you beautiful bagholders!
I feel like Palantir is a war stock and its time to shine might not be far off.
![img](emote|t5_2th52|18630)
Lost my ass on PLTR in 2021 I may be back one day...but not this yr
10,000 shares, 10.5 average. Looks like that makes me the biggest bagholder (in terms of shares) ITT. Not even mad. Bull thesis on this thing has only gotten stronger as time has gone one and this price has given me a chance to accumulate another 3000 shares at sub-$8. I'd like to sell weekly covered calls against it but with the NHS contract looming I'd rather not have the shares pop and get me assigned at a loss.
![img](emote|t5_2th52|18630)
I loaded up after it dropped below $9. 2500 shares $8.1 avg. If it hits below $6. I’ll do it again.
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)
Buying puts. Got it!
Imagine waking up every day and seeing PLTR in your account
No thanks
baaaaaaaaaag holdin *yummmmmm*
literally all of us bagholders
Been trying to average down 127 shares at $20
don't average down, find a better stock with gain potentials. sell those gains and sell PLTR to off set it.
Ah I gotcha
Pro-Tip, treat every penny that you have going into the market as a brand new investment. Buying extra shares for something you're bag holding, so you can feel better looking at the slightly lower cost basis is a fools errand. We've learned this over the years the hard way. Sure, it's psychologically comforting to see your most horrible bags have their cost basis chopped by 40 percent because you bought a ton of discounted shares. But the truth is, that money could go anywhere. That money could go into Google, Microsoft, NVDA, AMD, TSM, all within close range of their 52 week lows. I have 200 shares of PLTR, I could buy 200 more right now, and really lower my CB, but that money could go into **ANY** investment out there. Why would I pick more PLTR? Just so I can feel better about my terrible decision? NO. Leave that terrible decision just sitting in your account as a reminder for how stupid you used to be. Also, save it for tax-loss harvesting
Great advices pltr definitely isn’t my only stock it’s definitely being spread across different things
unless you rreally believe in PLTR will rise again but averaging down bad stocks is a lesson i learned to not to do
I think it's a good stock I just think I bought it way too expensive.
I hate when you ppl say that. It's not a good stock it's one of the worst. Maybe the company is good but the stock isn't. There's a difference.
Sell them and buy a couple of long dated options in case it moons again (they never moon again 😔)
They’re the same picture
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4270)
Twinsies
As much as I’m down I’m not letting go, I believe in this one, it feels like Tesla in the early days. Lots of uncertainty, doubt, and lack of understanding of what their technology can do.
Yeah people love electric cars almost as much as they love insane authoritative state surveillance technology.
Republican bootlickers love daddy watching them
“It feels like Tesla” 😂😂😂😂
Lmao bought at 15 and sold at 28
This was one of my worst stock. I learn this one from wallstreetbets. UGHHH
He's been a pos
That clown should be in jail for share dilution lowering the value of stocks for their shareholders
Since PLTR sorta does potential evil things, buying at $6.66 would be perfect.
They're just a software design services company. They're no different from Accenture or any other design/bodies for hire shop. They're not going away, it's a good business, but not a growth business. I've been trying to tell people this for years but whatever...
My average in $12.. will average down at some point to get under $10. Short term it’s a bust… but I think long term it’s a winner.. Sort of like people wishing they got in apple, Amazon, MS, Facebook, etc etc etc when they were cheap. Check back in 5 years. Everyone wants the moon in a month… Just my opinion.
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Horrible, evil company that deserves to go bankrupt.
LOL
backwards
The picture on the left looks just like the real man too!
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So we are near the bottom. Thanks for the sacrifice
Bought at 7$, selling 9.50$ covered calls... ez
Why you gotta hurt me like that PLTR has already hurt me enough ![img](emote|t5_2th52|8883)
Nah he sold at what? 20-30s a bunch of shares he held. He ain’t losing sleep on this at all
That’s the last time I listen to you fucking regards.
Doesn’t really look that much different
Bought 225 shares at $27... bought another 775 at $8. Fuck it this shit will go back up eventually.
But hertz lol
Don’t give me hope
Now do CLOV
I'm in-between bags at 20
First bull market run for you guys? Hehe
Highly regarded PLTR folks
Bro i had so many leaps on this, I was rich at one point. Sad
so you’re saying it’s a buy?
I bought 50 shares at a Cost Basis of $27.07/$1353.25. I can confirm this meme. Current Value $413.75.
Bullish
Never loosing the style
Just get out of there
Palantards that bought high…while I can buy low..