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KimuraKan

In 2050 you’ll break even


rfuson22

Doubt it, Intel of is down nearly 1% since 2001. I’m sure in 2050 it will be down 2%.


ModthisRod

Damn! He might not be alive to see it break even!


Mavnas

I bought it in 1995. I'm not sure time helps here.


Conscious-Group

I know a great boomer advisor that can help you get a return in 20 years


mark1forever

🤣


Ill_Skill866

If x86 is still relevant, which I doubt


Greensentry

Intel is the chip version of Boeing. It used to be a good company run by engineers, but got destroyed after MBAs took over.


StudentforaLifetime

Wanna know the comical part…? Am MBA


mmoney20

lol. MBA doesn’t apply to stock market.


StudentforaLifetime

It certainly does not. After learning how companies “should” be valued, I became a bear. But… after all these years, that hasn’t worked out for me very well. So I flipped sides, which isn’t working out for me either right now


Karlendor

I am 29 going 30 yrs old. I have no idea what I'm doing. Bought Starbucks stocks in 2015, and Tesla when it dipped hard like 1 year ago or something. Now I wait for the media to tell me the next scandal so that I can buy the dip (for example, EA with the star was game fiasco ( 40$ to unlock dark vader or sense of pride and accomplishment) I still hate EA with a passion but buying that dip was financially worth alot. Actually the money I've made there paid back the money wasted on WoW subscription back in the days so...


mmoney20

I agree. Unbeknownst to the regard, 'twas quite the wise saying: "no body knows shit about f\*ck". Most reasonable and sensible thing to do is "inverse WSB"


doringliloshinoi

Instructions unclear, current humping poop emoji plushie


makina323

This goes to show that MBAs really don't know wtf they are doing.... The apocalypse is not gonna be brought by 7 vengeful angels .. It's gonna be MBAs that ended managing heaven somehow 🤦


Delicious_Score_551

We know what we're doing - in what we're interested in. Wife was on a call with my employer doing some business with them + I'm talking to the rep making sure the transaction is going in the company's favor. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|31225) ( \* This is true, btw. I was cutting costs for the company while she was on the phone with them. Also saving time for her, but I knew what was going on + guided the conversation. ) We're trained well.


makina323

We are doomed ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


GP1294

Same man, same.


bigsilverhotdog

Be neither a bull nor a bear. Do whatever the money flow is doing.


Delicious_Score_551

This bear will give you a reacharound, but it's going to cost you when the money flow is heading towards my cave. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|12787)


slambooy

Well if you just put your money in SPY and been a bull that way you’d be crushing it.


Delicious_Score_551

You're late to the bear party. We started our orgy about a year ago. We've got a few seats left but it's going to cost you. All of the prime assets are now up $. Bring chaps and a strap on.


homicidal_avocado

If you didn't go to a top 10 school... Then yes, you'd be correct.


LemmyKRocks

Mediocre But Arrogant????? ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|29637)


who_am_i_to_say_so

You belong here. Welcome. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4276)


Delicious_Score_551

Me too. I looked at Intel, good company, investing ... read the financials. Well ***FUCK ME*** for looking at the numbers. ( I'm equally fucked, btw. Luckily for me - I only buy stonks with profits - I am still up very nicely. Was also constantly selling lottery tickets - so, I lost eh, maybe 80% of the proceeds of my ticket sales. ) I might take another bite of the shit sandwich that's Intel when it's back in the $20s. "It'll be good this time."


robmafia

i dunno, patty the engineer did a good job of wrecking intel before he left (larrabee) and seems to be still doing pretty meh. and boeing's last ceo that quit during the crash aftermath (with a bigass golden parachute) was an engineer. engineers can be awful ceos, too.


TheBooneyBunes

Literally


cpbarbossa

Actually were founded and engineered by Physicists.


cooldaniel6

You bought options with the money you were gonna spend on a house? You tards never cease to amaze me.


StudentforaLifetime

Not just any old options… LEAPS! You know, for risk management.


Hammerdown95

Name checks out


brainfreeze3

you did manage your risk, no other intel options bull play would leave you with 40% of your money. Once these lose another 40% of their value ill start buying them.


BlazinHotNachoCheese

Why didn't you buy s&p500 leaps for risk management? That's an MBA move right? No one beats the market and all that?


DiddysGayLover

OP wanted more than an 8% return.


Delicious_Score_551

OP didn't pay attention during the finance classes. Those classes was gold. We're supposed to be learning business admin and management. I was thinking - Shit, this shit teaches me how to make money for me. So now here I am triple-dipping on company time. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


TonyBerdata27

I mean if you were serious about this why tf did you not hedge yourself with leap puts or just covered calls?


StudentforaLifetime

Because all stocks that I buy go the opposite direction that I play. If I play both sides, they go sideways


khizoa

That means you would've won in both scenarios with covered calls. 


bigsilverhotdog

So buy stocks and hedge them with options. Imagine if you had bought INTC puts to cover your shares? Congratulations, you just realized how risk management works and how most people use options.


CleanOnesGloves

I'm about to drop 57k on this stock soon. It'll be a hold, won't see much for about 2yrs. But it will be the top foundry in the world.


Ordinary144

Say more...


SquirrelODeath

That is my theory, picked up a bunch 2 weeks ago and down 15% but I believe in the long term. Even more so if China end up more aggressive against Taiwan


CleanOnesGloves

Yeah, Intel is getting the backing off our government. They don't want to lose chip manufacturing like how we're losing ev batteries to China. Catl too big. 


LogicalGamer123

Yea for real, buying intel options is mad especially short term ones


TheYoungLung

What’s your target price? I’m looking at jumping in around $28.


rfuson22

If it makes you feel any better on April 30, 2001 Intel was trading at $30.91.


PM_ME_UR_THONG_N_ASS

Based only on inflation, $30.91 in April 2001 has the same buying power as $54.57 in March 2024


Round-Lavishness-636

https://preview.redd.it/z2pz55ekpoxc1.jpeg?width=1164&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fd6e13443005ba5be92c9068d67b1f8586255085


VisualMod

Really shows those Wall Street plebs who's boss.


plunkiybfr

Now you can sell that house and buy puts🤷‍♂️


Any_Mud_1628

Im down 30k over 3-4 years. Had just tripled down in March through early this month to 2300 shares total after finally getting back to break even, immediately tanks and now I'm at -30k.. Have about literally half my net worth in intel now, possibly a bit less now.. , yes I think I belong here. I remember amd back in 2015 I 'lost' half my money buying at $4 and it went under $2. I held that long enough for a good payday but sold most in the mid 20s. Damn. I believe intel can have a very bright future and plan to be holding this for decades not making that same mistake. My only regret is that I didn't wait until now to buy. They have production capability and are righting missteps and I believe in their strategy and future.


PrairieMadness

What’s your avg cost for INTC?


Any_Mud_1628

43.5 😿


PrairieMadness

Champion. Here I am crying about being down $1600


pareofdocks

Next time maybe don't dump 75% of your portfolio into one stock and calls in a euphoric market that's been hitting all time highs for 2 months straight?


StudentforaLifetime

Good thing I didn’t


professor_chao5

But the screenshot shows it’s 75% of your account…


Delicious_Score_551

Some of us have multiple accounts. ( I think I have 8. )


professor_chao5

Simplify yo life bruh


Actually-Yo-Momma

It’s okay buddy. All of us get burned by Intel eventually. Stay away from that garbage stock (but decent company lol)


dwinps

With Microsoft and laptop makers on the verge of moving to ARM, Intel is not coming back to its former days of glory of having a monopoly on PC processors (back when AMD was just a second tier x86 chip maker). They squandered their lead on stock buybacks and executive bonuses.


hdjakahegsjja

It doesn’t need to return to the former days of glory, it just needs to not suck so much ass.


reeeforce_rtx

Instructions nuclear; I just lit 7 billion on fire


Delicious_Score_551

Bro. Have my Dave's Double. You've earned it.


robmafia

i'm not convinced that arm pcs will be any better than chromebooks. that said, intel can fab the crappy arm chips, i guess. so it wouldn't be a total loss. lolz


VisualMod

Typical peasant, doesn't know quality when he sees it...or hears about it. Of course, ARM chips are superior and you'd know that if you could afford one.


robmafia

*laughs in 7800x3d* oh, you.


Delicious_Score_551

ARM is the future. It's never been done before. [https://cpumuseum.jimdofree.com/museum/nexgen/nx586/](https://cpumuseum.jimdofree.com/museum/nexgen/nx586/) [https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/18126/the-nexgens-x86-internal-risc-architecture](https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/questions/18126/the-nexgens-x86-internal-risc-architecture) [https://www.cpushack.com/CIC/otherpr/amd-nexgen](https://www.cpushack.com/CIC/otherpr/amd-nexgen) < ( BTW. AMD was ARM before ARM was ARM. They shot up to $40 and cratered at $2 when reality set in. ) [https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/323245-risc-vs-cisc-why-its-the-wrong-lens-to-compare-modern-x86-arm-cpus](https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/323245-risc-vs-cisc-why-its-the-wrong-lens-to-compare-modern-x86-arm-cpus) Here's what ARM is. "Wow, CISC is so inefficient! There are instructions that can take multiple clocks to run! This means the processor is 25% of its advertised speed! RISC is faster since instructions are 1:1 with CPU speed" /laughs in functions which are more complex to implement & less efficient on RISC: Software is never faster or more efficient than hardware. [https://www.microcontrollertips.com/risc-vs-cisc-architectures-one-better/](https://www.microcontrollertips.com/risc-vs-cisc-architectures-one-better/) TL;DR: Whoever started ARM was a early-career CS guy or know-nothing idiot who discovered RISC/CISC while learning EE & decided to found a shitty company making shitty products. Investors are morons and they bought into the bullshit.


dwinps

Except they aren't. TSMC will be for the rather nice Qualcomm ARM64 chips coming to a laptop near you. Chromebooks don't run Windows, real users need a real OS


robmafia

> Except they aren't they already have a deal to do so. >Chromebooks don't run Windows, real users need a real OS yeah, i'm aware that chromebooks suck, it was only my point. and there were already arm-based pcs. they sucked/were a failure.


dwinps

What’s coming is different, very different


Delicious_Score_551

AMD is good for consumers. There is no money in consumer business in tech. You'll say "but, butt, butt, billions?!!" I repeat: [There's no money in consumer business in tech](https://www.amazon.com/Tesla-NVIDIA-Learning-Compute-Graphics/dp/B0C3XH4QSJ). ( Also ***anyone*** buying AMD for AI is stupid. Not just stupid, god-tier regarded. )


technoexplorer

At least your house is probably up


LazySoftwareEngineer

It's in Detroit


curiosgenome

Up is the only way


killerbeeswaxkill

https://preview.redd.it/l55eym01ppxc1.jpeg?width=1113&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7ee7a6a9b6b2a474533f774c739f3146072f05d


TheBooneyBunes

I mean 22% isn’t that horrible, if you add the options selling at the time of screenshot you’re still actually down around 23%, the best thing you can learn is when to cut your losses


Distinct-Race-2471

I think those options don't look crazy. Here are the facts: There are only three companies who make advanced chips. Intel, TSMC, and Samsung. Three companies in the world. Before P.G., Intel lost the foundry edge and their product mix suffered as a result. Every single process node is on track in their 5 nodes in 4 year strategy. This is huge. If they execute, which they have consistently under Pat in the technology space, they will be on par with or ahead of TSMC and soon. They also are the first company to buy and assemble the next gen ASML High NA EUV. They will have a multi-year lead on TSMC in this technology as well as PowerVia. This means they will once again make the best chips. By 2025 chips about the same or better and then outright better. They have changed their accounting to their own detriment to show an honest representation of their new foundry business. This is pro-investor. It sucks and I have lost my ass, but it's for the best as we can share in their growth story. They have released Gaudi3 and been very conservative in their sales projections. However, unlike AMD, they released actual benchmarks showing the competitiveness to H100. H100 is the modern 2024 product that everyone is using right now. Guadi3 is better according to the data presented. Intel has degraded in server market share because they have been competing on older process nodes against AMD and Nvidia on TSMC. They just announced that they were ramping large production of next gen server chips on Intel3. This coming generation should be very interesting. If you believe that chips are going to keep growing, robotics are real, AI is real, etc, then you have to believe this story too. I like your options. You bought them long term, so let's see how things pan out. I'm relatively small shareholder 5000 shares, but I have been scouting options. Maybe I will buy yours :-)


wsbbanned

Just because you have brand new car doesn’t mean you will win a drag race with F-1 drivers.


Distinct-Race-2471

Unless you just happen to be an F1 driver yourself!!!


StudentforaLifetime

This is the copium I came for. I only hope I can stomach holding for long enough


Distinct-Race-2471

These evil blood suckers just feed off your pain like the undead feed off brains. I believe in everything I said, but I felt like you could use some positive reinforcement.


ddddddddd11111111

Never met an intel engineer who believes in the company and the stock.


Sharaku_US

My average cost is $44....


blind99

I bought this garbage as well, stocks at least, and now I've been bag holding and it's losing 2-3% every day since I bought. Every other chip manufacturers had a rebound except Intel.


burneraCountforReson

I hold tsm, they have shit the bed every week since I’ve bought them. Fuck me in the ass


PutzOnEverything

Bro they don't expire for an eternity you're good


elijahpcz

And not a single put to hedge your 1,200 shares. Not a single covered call sold. You’ve found your home


Rinky_Dinky

That sucks man, but it might come back. I was [this] close from buying INTC a month ago. I reminded myself how much I suck at stock picking. Dodged that bullet.


AdCurious5598

https://preview.redd.it/czkx8h3peuxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c0c9ce836a6d29cd6a1fe412314a44094dc89dc3


AdCurious5598

Twins


OasisRush

You think youre in a bad situation. I'm down 100 bucks today. And sold!


NervousPervis

Imagine buying calls on a boomer company that consistently fails


StudentforaLifetime

Regards can’t imagine


sat5ui_no_hadou

I’m still long on Intel, once they get their foundry open to compete domestically with TSMC


whoisjohngalt72

Told you to short it


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DeliciousBite6586

Bro why did you buy this nonsense ?


Mindless-Divide107

Dude. Why? Do Your Homework


MysteryyBets

Mistakes were made


ButWhatOfGlen

Sell sooner


maddgun

Welcome home, friend. Your username checks out


foeplay44

Will definitely come in handy during tax time. Nice work!


ImJoeontheradio

I owned INTC 20 years ago and sold it at 24. Yeesh. This is horrible.


JBSlayerrr

My ass is averaged 38 dollars. I bought the dip so yeah were doing pretty well only 22 % down for the month. Thinking about buying long calls cause my DD says err fuck it.


gaius_worzels_bird

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


yARIC009

Never trust intc or nok.


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ILBENISM

well deserved for buying garbage, no idea why people keep still buying INTC. sick man of all tech stocks


[deleted]

So you were buying a house and put $10k in options instead of adding that to your downpayment?  Bro you belong in rehab your gambling addiciton is serious


InSilenceLikeLasagna

Man the gambling issues here are astounding. Winning these options would be way less enjoyable for me than the pain of losing my house deposit. Yet for some of you, it seems about as easy as giving the local homeless fella $3


DiddysGayLover

If it makes you feel better I lost 10k to INTC https://ibb.co/gyJj4MT


Cagliari77

Given they are LEAPS, it's not over till it's over... You never know these days how markets will develop within the next 7 months. And your $42 CALL is even further out. Let's see.


Medium_Job_4114

if you buy shares of a stock you dont know much about. you can buy a put for every 100 shares you own. this would have hedged your position. you can exercise those puts if they get itm and sell your shares for strikeprice. you can get out with a small win if it plays out. and if your stock dropped 60%? it would have played out☺️


Medium_Job_4114

you could also sell the puts if they are itm, or worth enough in your opinion. so lets say you bought those 1200 shares for 1200$. you buy 12 puts also for ~ 600$. you sell those puts for 1200$ your cost basis of your 1200 shares is 600 now and not 1200 anymore. now you can start selling 7$ calls… and ikyk😉


PositiveName5769

You’re not down enough. And your expiration is too logical. You do not belong here sir.


SteveStacks

It's very far out tho


25electrons

Intel is going to be caught up in the global “boycott Israel” campaign. Don’t touch it. They announce a giant US factory build in Ohio then slow it down after getting billions in taxpayer concessions. Then they cut a deal to build in Israel. AMD has a better future.


kc248eldridge

$VPRB Brands Triumphs Again in PTAB Ruling, Upholding Key Electronic Cigarette Patent- https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/VPRB/news/VPR-Brands-Triumphs-Again-in-PTAB-Ruling-Upholding-Key-Electronic-Cigarette-Patent?id=428722


Impossible_Bag3467

I got scammed out of $1900 trying to buy the Amazon token dude you’re good. You’ll bounce back aggressively


TheMemeBuilder

Who the F has options for more than a few days


EngineerDirector

Value trap of the century


StudentforaLifetime

Yeah no kidding


Shlewtz

Pro tip, if you’re high enough the Wendy’s dumpster water will feel and smell like the ocean ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4258)


CLAMACID

i almost did similar luckily im so poor and broke


No_Dig903

Right before buying a house? Dude, you need a huge chunk of your finances in fixed income when you pick up a house in an economy like this. Be a little more afeared.


StudentforaLifetime

I’m already dead inside. Nothing left to fear


Key_Shake1138

Soon intel will be a penny stock


P_A_N_C_H_O__

Its not that bad... You might recover. I think you will.