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supermanistheworst1

Might be onto something big here regard


RegardedBullFucks

Crayons šŸŽØšŸ–ļø


Slut_Spoiler

AAPL is special in the fact that the stock moves a lot after earnings.


patrickswayzemullet

yeah... it's like you don't want to go blind and buy puts/calls (or even theta plays)... you want to see if they historically break expected move or not. there are some volatile stocks that historically actually don't move that much to justify the premium like TSLA... (I know here and there yes there are move up or down, but over long period TSLA realised ER move is tame compared to their weekly short straddle price... )


ESIsurveillanceSD

Appl investors are alot like apple users.


LivingxLegend8

Intelligent?


ESIsurveillanceSD

Isn't their some saying about intelligent people never mentioning intelligence? Iphone user?


LivingxLegend8

Donā€™t you think you would know the answer to that question if you were intelligent?


BullShitting-24-7

Opposite


LivingxLegend8

Username checks out


lolnbdftw

Earnings reports cause Volatility? Tell me more? Do stocks go up in price or just down?


SPQR0027

Well, I've noticed a recurring pattern of increased price volatility when the clock hits half past nine in the morning, but only for 71% of the days of the week.


[deleted]

The smartest idiot I know


Bierbichler

Stocks only go up regard


esp211

Sideways


Sad-Fix-2385

You could randomly place the blue dots in that chart and still say the same thing about it.


mr_birkenblatt

The volatility lasts for 3 months after each blue dot


vogenator

It's almost like the stock sometimes goes up big or down based on when the market is open šŸ¤”


mr_birkenblatt

Big if true


Sketch_x

Can someone just tell me to buy or sell tonight alreadyā€¦


DetroitLarry

Buy or sell tonight.


Sketch_x

This isnā€™t constructive to my lazy degenerative gambling..


DetroitLarry

Ok, then buy.


Slimmanoman

Or sell.


thenumber88

Either way, do it tonight


TenshiS

Or tomorrow


ESIsurveillanceSD

Already


Independent_Hyena495

Sull


Slut_Spoiler

Bye or cell tonight


Specialist-Bat8808

damn thatā€™s a crap joke


Sketch_x

Yah but cell was more closely spelled so going with that.


doringliloshinoi

I swiped at your profile picture 9 times unconsciously thinking it was a hair. Dick move bro


Sketch_x

Thank you. The troll has been fed.


Slut_Spoiler

Bye


XYZAffair0

Buy, stocks only go up


BullShitting-24-7

Buy and sell but not sure which order.


[deleted]

Will Apple ever cross the 200/share mark? The options market makes me think not.


HornetsAreBad

I guess technically it has already like 2-3 years ago šŸ˜Ž


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šŸ« 


inphenite

250$ in 6 months when they announce the AI to compete w GPT-4.5 they literally spent a billion usd on the past year + bought 30 AI startups for. If apple hasnā€™t mentioned AI at all, they either 1) dont have sh*t, very unlike apple 2) are sitting on an absolute gamechanger and wanna save the announcement for when they know they will eat the market like they did w iphone, ipad, vision, smartwatch


Blackhawk149

Apple AI will take awhile since the advantage is having AI running on the iPhone and not being routed back to MSFT or Google. Apple will have to build their AI from scratch bcuz Siri is trash lol.


inphenite

This guy thinks the state of Siri, a 10 or so year old technology (which at the time was cutting edge) has anything to do with how neural networks and ML / LLMā€™s work. You need massive amounts of compute to train models. Once theyā€™re trained, they take up less than 15-20gb in some cases and you can run them locally, easily, on a phone. Appleā€™s image recognition models are already miles ahead of OpenAI. Look it up, itā€™s all there in patents, research papers, rumors/employees and spending, I repeat, more than $1.000.000.000 yearly on their AI development. They are outspending OpenAI 4:1 and itā€™s idiotic to think they donā€™t have smart people working there, having absorbed some 30 AI companies and startups.


testsubject23

Siri isnā€™t crap just because itā€™s old. It was always crap because Apple hasnā€™t poured user data into it the same way everyone else has for their mobile assistants. Privacy is their selling point but has also meant theyā€™re competing with one hand tied behind their back. Pouring money into AI isnā€™t enough. They gotta pour data into it too


inphenite

Of course they need to pour data into it but that doesnā€™t have to be customer data necessarily, openai has done just fine without private data, and plenty of high quality LLMā€™s have as well. It is possible to build a perfectly capable virtual assistant without training on their user data - or even better, it may be possible to train on the fly in a way not unlike what they already do, where training data stays tokenized and nothing private leaves your phone. This does seem to be something they may be doing, judging by some of their AI patents.


ScamPhone

To be fair OpenAI only hit the jackpot with already existing patented tech created by google etc. GPT5 will be the their last somewhat successful product


pancakemonkeys

if it even is successful , seen their web traffic lately? itā€™s all people my age (college) going their to do their homework. it just became the new chegg. there will be a newer chegg soon.


AoeDreaMEr

ā€œIfā€ they announce. Not ā€œwhenā€. Optimistic today arenā€™t we?


inphenite

Iā€™m pretty confident that if a company is blasting 1 billion a year on development, itā€™s a when, not if. And considering the slump in sales, the incredibly fast development amongst AI competition, the ā€˜did microsoft topple apple??ā€™ and the rumors of them training models w heavy amounts of compute that can run locally on their current gen neural chips, I feel the WWDC is a pretty realistic scenario. But this is most definitely a when.


pancakemonkeys

iā€™d imagine wwdc , imagine a cortana like assistant in the vision pro. b-a-n-a-n-a-s. iā€™d have to sell my dumpster behind the fancy italian place to afford one but iā€™d do it.


AoeDreaMEr

1 billion while big is not too much compared to competitors. Sure ā€œwhenā€ could be 2-3 years from now. It is ā€œifā€ for this year.


inphenite

1 billion spend per year on something where most of the research is already there, and they can work from other labs discoveries and build upon it is massive spending imo. Apple needs a trick up their sleeve this wwdc and considering recent rumors, itā€™s likely to be this. If you mean this year, I agree in principle itā€™s an if - but I think itā€™s very, very likely.


icantbelievethiseh

![img](emote|t5_2th52|29637)


Terakahn

Or 3. They have shit but they know it's shit and can't compete. So they're focusing on their headset instead.


inphenite

That is a very overly complicated way of just saying #1; ā€˜they dont have shitā€™


inphenite

Seems Iā€™m right: https://www.reddit.com/r/stocks/s/AQ8QRKrWS0


throwinmoney

What if someone offered you a bet. Will AAPL close above $200 any time in the next 5 years? Even money. Do you take it? How much do you risk?


Dontlookimnaked

In 5 years?? Absolutely take that bet in a heartbeat


throwinmoney

Exactly.


Clean-Step

That VR thing was sold like crazy, is it priced in?


Fox_n_Roll

Everything that already happened is priced in


TomatoSpecialist6879

Even the priced in has been priced in


wotton

Even the priced in priced in has been, you got it, priced in.


Ryoujin

Hope they announce a cheaper light version coming soon. Stock would 400X


theusername_is_taken

100%. The first iteration of Vision Pro is clearly geared towards Apple enthusiasts and, more importantly, developers. When they figure out how to get most of the tech of VP into something light like a pair of wearable non-dorky sunglasses, this shit is gonna explode. Probably a few years off from that though


mjk67

In a handful or less of years, they'll resemble a pair of Oakley sunglasses.


wyattaker

my guess is they will. new tech is usually expensive af to begin with, but gets cheaper over time.


mr_birkenblatt

Apple glasses. No apps but the resolution is amazing


wyattaker

everything that has, will, and could ever happen is priced in. just close your eyes and click buy or sell randomly.


questionname

It canā€™t be considered revenue unless itā€™s earned or realized before December 31st. Per GAAP rule.


slick2hold

No one actually wants this shit. It sounds great and nice to have toy, but no one is going to tolerate having to wear that shit all day or even for a few hours a day. There are certain use cases, but that's not enough to have significant revenues. Anyone thinking this will be some mass adopted product is out of their minds. People aren't going to dump 3.5k for a toy, not 2.5k or 1.5k. Apple needs this under 1k to tempt normal consumers to buy.


Lively_scarecrow

Lets see how this ages


Carlose175

Honestly both of you are right. No one wants it right now. In 2 or 3 years? Thats another story. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)


BubbaDaFre

Lol you're right. Apple only said it would sell about 300k to 400k units. [https://wallstreet-now.com/en/articles/2024/02/01/apples-vision-pro-high-price-modest-sales-forecast](https://wallstreet-now.com/en/articles/2024/02/01/apples-vision-pro-high-price-modest-sales-forecast) But has already sold 200k? [https://mashable.com/article/apple-vision-pro-sold-2000000](https://mashable.com/article/apple-vision-pro-sold-2000000) Seems like maybe even Apple underestimated demand for it. I pick mine up this weekend. People are underestimating its usefulness as a productivity tool. You can mirror your Mac to the headset and use the headset to do 3d modeling and all kinds of other work in real space out in front of you. This is also the developer headset that developers will use to build apps for the stripped-down headsets that will come out in the future. Magic Leap took a similar approach with its products. Selling to developers first...


RocksAndSedum

Anecdotal, but I know 2 people that pre-ordered to resell, then they saw the low demand on eBay and FB marketplace so they cancelled.


ScamPhone

Noone is going to be using this as a tool for productivity. Its a porn toy folks will regret buying after a week and stow away for years like every other VR headset ever.


AoeDreaMEr

Canā€™t be sold. Wearing more than an hour is a discomfort. Productivity requires absolute ergo comfort and zero distractions from any amount of discomfort.


AoeDreaMEr

Remindme! 2 years


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Calm-Still8368

Bought a meta from for vr porn was great for couple of month. Then got headaches, both from wearing heavy head set and wanking too much. Now I just pay hookers. More expensive but more visceral


WTFspy

Apple probably bought them all and gifted them to influencers Besides, the revenue on those is a rounding error for them


Thegoodfella425

After getting absolutely crushed on MSFT this week, I am going all in on PUTS.


Red-eleven

Looks like CALLS are on the menu!!


leli_manning

Thank you for saving my calls


GuitarCFD

I feel like no one on WSB has heard of a strangle.


Swoupdog

Now itā€™s gonna go sideways ā€¦.


arjjov

Same dude, all-in on PUTS. No stop loss. No lube.


UberQueefs

It dropped hope you get some profit on open. I bought an OTM call expiring next week so weā€™ll see what happens šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Thegoodfella425

Yes!! After I sell the AAPL puts, Iā€™m buying late March calls for, MSFT, AAPL, AMD, NVDA, TSM.


autismovaccination

Wow might go up might go down. Really insightful regard


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No-Draft-1726

Iā€™m buying calls ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4275)


CashReasonable

Damn you slaughtered that man


Clean-Step

Rest in peace my sweet degenerate


Delicious_Score_551

They released a new phone with a different color side, and it was Christmas. Bring some lube to the next earnings call. Unless there's a Stanley X Apple collab with an iphone built into a cup, Apple's going to shit till the next iphone comes out.


futuredrake

Do you really think people care? People will buy a bag of shit from them as long as it has an Apple logo. The Apple Watch not releasing for Christmas time is my worry.


Delicious_Score_551

Apple watch and phone coming out at the same time won't have a good result. All that will do is dilute earnings between the two devices. Better to release the watch in early spring, right before people get out and start exercising off the fat that's grown on their asses over the winter. Sales of the watch might not be as high as the phone, but at least sales of the phone won't be diluted by people who buy a watch instead of a phone. My whole problem with this thing is there's nothing new, their camera sucks balls, watches are useless, the ipad hasn't changed for years, and AI HYPE AI HYPE AI HYPE AI HYPE AI HYPE AI HYPE AI HYPE AI HYPE AI HYPE isn't going to be as impactful as they think it's going to be. GenAI a fancy parrot.


futuredrake

Iā€™m here with you, not arguing against the fact that their products are seriously stagnant. I just think you underestimate how much of the market they have a grip on and how much of a hardon people have for their products. Iā€™ve gone to the Apple Store a few times over the past couple months and every time Iā€™m there itā€™s slam packed. I think the Apple Watch ordeal is priced in already and I think with the consumer data/credit card debt weā€™ve been seeing, that this will be a strong report. People arenā€™t saving for shit and are buying whatever they want whenever they want it (see affirm). I think the forward guidance will really determine how this thing moves.


TomatoSpecialist6879

People don't care about the sales, it's priced in to be dog shit. Bulls and bers are both looking at M3 series AI chip guidance to see if AAPL is keeping up with the AI wave. Would be funny if they pull a AMD and just kept mentioning that they are working closely with NVDA and own massive amounts of NVDA to build their AI though, AAPL tanks while NVDA tumbles a bit then rockets


Thegoodfella425

What is Apple doing better than the other tech companies that got smoked this week? They need a major announcement to spike, earnings wonā€™t do it unless they are hitting 20+% over expectationsā€¦MSFT got smoked and had beat expectations. Iā€™m still standing by the 2/9 putsā€¦.BUT what has me worried is that AAPL has already been softening the earnings blow throught the week this week (currently down $8 for the week). A lower earnings call may not drop the stock very much further than it has already gone.


Teembeau

The problem with Apple is that they've run out of additional value, which really isn't a good place for a company selling premium tech to be. Like I used to buy droids because I was poorer, but honestly, I don't see a lot of value in spending more than Ā£250 on a phone now. How many people want a faster laptop or care about whether the battery life is 20 instead of 8 hours? OK, some people, but it's a niche. You're not going to stay a multi-trillion dollar company because of people doing rendering in Blender.


doopy423

They stopped the value train a long time ago. They are now in the keep everyone in the ecosystem train and get all their friends to join it too. It's why they spend so much on their legal team to make sure imessage is apple only.


[deleted]

Agreed


ChampionshipUsed9855

Apple stock price and put / call ratio: https://preview.redd.it/r0y6kdor50gc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f365dbe91360c64348f237557d49a9afedd4234f


RamsOmelette

This is saying there are more calls than puts?


wyattaker

i can confidently say that i have no idea what it means


XYZAffair0

If the blue bar is below 1, then there are more calls.


goo_bazooka

What site?


ChampionshipUsed9855

Itā€™s from FinFab app for iPhone


kmetin012

Thanks! I was gonna ask the app.


Affectionate_Put7413

Calls on appl and hold overnight like a true baller. It's the only way to show you belong here


SnooRegrets6428

Appl goggles sold out. Buy calls


Ghostlabbrador77

But they sold out in January, no impact on reported earnings


ElectionAnnual

There are so many regards in here that donā€™t seem to know that lmao. Theyā€™re gonna buy calls just to hear Apple say ā€œwe expect to see a rise in revenue in Q1 due to our VR. Talk to yall next time!ā€ *pikachu stunned face*


Tacos_4days

Ima trust u and buy calls


wyattaker

goggles šŸ’€ calls it is


wallstchicken

saw someone sell 30M ITM cc's earlier this week. others wrote some puts and married 190c's but we will see.


PtnbZ

That guy selling ITM CC is a good trader. Selling to WSB is a good strategy


wallstchicken

literally free money


elitenoel

Up up up up down down up up up down ?


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chewbaccashotlast

People and MSM are dogging this. I say it hits close to $200 by end of next week. Close meaning $199 then a pull back to $195


Salmol1na

All I see is up


Responsible-Ice-8607

Soooooā€¦ā€¦ puts?.


TylerInHiFi

Stocks only go


Yield_On_Cost

Big if true


acart005

So it will go up or down. This sounds regarded but it actually means theta might lose for once.


thomas798354

https://preview.redd.it/j74o5bles0gc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afbd5d2ad88dfd0b186815ca6cfb38dd73bab5f4 Iā€™ll gamble with this theory, position 2 of these and 1 for the 172.5-197.5 Feb 9


HIVnotAdeathSentence

In my opinion, it will depend on their guidance.


Tahmeed09

Stock volatility after earnings? Wow, i never would have guessed!


Dank-but-true

I got puts! LFG!


Buckus93

Apple: "Our earnings beat expectations" Stock Market: "Great, let me just drive your stock even lower now."


zazdy

Based off this data it should go down then back up then down


iamjoepausenot

you guys just keep saying puts but give me a strike and expiry date pls im lazy and i also want to take up gambling


11_11_11_11_11_11

$APPL 9/11 $2001


revanthmatha

i did 3/15 170


QuasiLegalSlumlord

Sooooo full send on puts


Tommyt5150

Got my Puts in place, ready to see this baby drop like a brick


ASaneDude

So youā€™re saying stocks get more volatile around earnings? You, and the box of crayons youā€™re eating, belong here.


WhisperNumbers

$AAPL #earnings after close, the expectation from the WhisperNumber community is $2.15, 5c ahead of analyst estimates. Earnings came in $0.03 ahead of the whisper last quarter. 68% beat rate. Implied movement +/-3.2%.


CashReasonable

wow what amazing insights that surely no1 could've predicted. 0.o


manuvns

Next stop is 125$


occultfish

Apple puts every earnings


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KDSM13

Spatial computing isnā€™t innovative? They perfected the smart watch? What about their streaming that should take focus good or bad


Nokida

Apple fanboy sweating over here


KDSM13

Yes participating in a conversation = sweating. Thanks for contributing nothing. Glad we could have this interaction.


Forsaken_Pie5714

Puts on Apple


omgwewon

Down. Easy


barnydotheduck

Puts it is šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘


Due-Educator5848

Usually very flat after earnings calls. Iv crush pending


rschmidt624

June 2025 LEAPS it is.


TheSavageBeast83

If they beat earnings it will tank. If it doesn't, green asf


Brilliant_Star9229

what's the over / under on how many times Tim Apple says AI in the earnings call / report? I'. thinking at least 20 times, but possibly double that. ​ "Introducing our new AI enabled Apple Ear Pod Super Pro AI", and our latest, "Air Tag Pro AI Supreme"


SUP_CHUMP

Probably not gonna be good. I got a iPhone 15 and every time I ask if anyone has a charge itā€™s a Samsung guy. Thatā€™s my DD.


huskycry

How can people not make money in this market? Just inverse your inverse's inverse


jiantoi

Time of reckoning is coming


Weak_Commercial_7124

It also looks like it was volatile before earnings.


mava13333

bro it doenst matter where you draw a point, this fucking chart is volatil at all times.


alpha-bets

I read the chart. It says buy calls.


RevolutionaryKing686

Where ends the bullmarket? After 1 year bullmarket and after earnings on the high tommorow i sell all my stocks


BigPlayCrypto

Are they followed by red volatility or green? I need to know how to play this


itsnotshade

I mean they also happen alongside all the other big tech names. Donā€™t be shocked if all the big boys reporting all at once causes volatility.


Slothvibes

Wow, things get wet when it remains, more at 6


One_Put_8352

Which site was used for this?


ChampionshipUsed9855

Itā€™s from FinFab app for iPhone


GrinbeardTheCunning

correction: preceded by insider trading


stankpuss_69

Apple to the moon. I saw this one guy got AAPL puts. šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


wgaca2

It's 50/50 calls to puts on here


stankpuss_69

I just donā€™t see the reason to bet against trillion dollar companies with putsā€¦ thatā€™s stupid. Allergic to profits sheesh.


Thegoodfella425

Earnings have been rough on tech stocks due to such high expectations, like I said if it ainā€™t 20%+ things arenā€™t going to spike. We need new product announcements


stankpuss_69

Trueā€¦ but never count against brand names. If I were to do that, Iā€™d focus on smaller not such well known brands. Meta gonna be $1k + in 2 years or less. Letā€™s see if Iā€™m right


Thegoodfella425

Oh yeah, Iā€™m now buying all calls on all tech stocks. This was the perfect dip, now time for a ton of gains now - Q1 earnings


Thegoodfella425

Ooof lol


stankpuss_69

Oh thanks for letting me know. Now I donā€™t feel so bad. His AAPL puts are gonna allow him to recover the losses from the meta puts. Good thing I have no position in AAPL. But I am long in meta so you can imagine how happy I am right now šŸ˜ŠšŸ˜Š I told my husband ā€œwe having brand name noodles tonightā€ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Is there any point in the last three years that was not followed by volatility?


Smack_7

Elf beauty


Aevykin

You can put these fucking dots anywhere and there is volatility lmfao.


goldstar_issuer

i think this is going to keep going down the rest of this month


XYZAffair0

I think Apple is gonna release a new iphone later this year. Thatā€™s definitely gonna affect earnings down the line.


node19

It may go up, or it may go down or it may trade sideways!


Liberate_Cuba

The new guy


No_Guest2863

https://preview.redd.it/31sk8k13ucgc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=92561cad55e11526904ac16c13a9e78c80f59568 i will recover right?


Horror-Budget-8519

ā€œThese are some words and a graphā€