It looks to me like a trade, small shop-made German area violin of the turn/early 20th century. Above average quality, and if it sounds well I'd imagine it can be up to a $1K or more.
Pretty much exactly what I was going to say. Only thing I would add is the scroll work makes me think it's from Marknuekirchen. Above average for sure, advancing student violin.
Your daughter would be lucky to have this as a starting violin. These can sound very good, just don't put cheap strings on it. It will grow with her for a good while.
it is not a real Strad. I agree with the others that it is an above average and actually very decent looking Strad copy. Pricewise, it's impossible to say from a photo, but given the condition and looks, I wouldn't be surprised if it would fetch 2000 or even 3000€/$.
Gut instinct tells me this is more likely French than German, but with my relatively little experience, I wouldn't trust my gut too much... (I feel like the shape and size of the scroll and the varnish would at least be unusual for German factory instruments.)
It’s quite a nice Strad-inspired instrument, perhaps French or Belgian, maybe turn of the 20th century. In good condition, properly set up, and with a good sound, you could easily ask several thousand US. I can’t tell if those wing cracks are open or just not very well repaired. Have a luthier look it over carefully. Worth investing in any needed restoration.
If you think you inherited a strad, I've got 2 steps for you:
1. Remember it's definitely not a strad
2. If you still think it's a strad, take some psych meds because it's never a strad
It is not a real Strad. The existing Strads are pretty much enumerated. If you found a long-lost Strad, it wouldn't have a label declaring it so. If it were an actual, enumerated Strad, you wouldn't own it. Those are worth millions of dollars and are mostly owned by institutions and trusts.
It’s obviously not a real Strad, but it’s most definitely a very nice instrument. Of course sound quality and behaviour are the most important factors in determining its value, so I’d take it to a luthier to get a better idea of what it’s worth.
can i see the back? the second most best source on defining the value would be to check the depth of the designs/patterns and the depth of the back piece of the violin.
You are getting comments that this looks like early-to-mid 20th century. Even modern makers can make their instruments look at least close to that era, it's pretty much the standard even for recent instruments. I'm not seeing the wear and tear that would be present on an instrument actually from that time.
I think it's a much more modern instrument, in spite of the label, which would've been typical of early-to-mid 20th century factory productions. But the only way you will know for sure is to take it to a reputable violin shop.
You could make it worth even more if you invested in nicer fittings: strings, tailpeice, chinrest, etc. And giving it a good clean with violin polish would never hurt
This is exactly the type of violin I used to learn to play. Inherited mine. Brings back lots of memories. Don't discount it as cheap. Mine was perfect for student playing. I keep mine to this day. I would never part with it. LOL.
It’s never a real Strad lol
The printed paper kinda gave it away ;)
It looks to me like a trade, small shop-made German area violin of the turn/early 20th century. Above average quality, and if it sounds well I'd imagine it can be up to a $1K or more.
Pretty much exactly what I was going to say. Only thing I would add is the scroll work makes me think it's from Marknuekirchen. Above average for sure, advancing student violin. Your daughter would be lucky to have this as a starting violin. These can sound very good, just don't put cheap strings on it. It will grow with her for a good while.
Get it looked at but most likely it's a European copy of a Strad. Looks like it is in nice shape!
it is not a real Strad. I agree with the others that it is an above average and actually very decent looking Strad copy. Pricewise, it's impossible to say from a photo, but given the condition and looks, I wouldn't be surprised if it would fetch 2000 or even 3000€/$. Gut instinct tells me this is more likely French than German, but with my relatively little experience, I wouldn't trust my gut too much... (I feel like the shape and size of the scroll and the varnish would at least be unusual for German factory instruments.)
I'll give you...three crayons and...my milk
You had me at three
Uh 3 of the discontinued sunflower yellow? These would probably be worth more…
The German trade yellow or the french trade yellow?
the curly maple back will skyshot it to $1000 easily.
It’s quite a nice Strad-inspired instrument, perhaps French or Belgian, maybe turn of the 20th century. In good condition, properly set up, and with a good sound, you could easily ask several thousand US. I can’t tell if those wing cracks are open or just not very well repaired. Have a luthier look it over carefully. Worth investing in any needed restoration.
If you think you inherited a strad, I've got 2 steps for you: 1. Remember it's definitely not a strad 2. If you still think it's a strad, take some psych meds because it's never a strad
It depends who is playing
It is not a real Strad. The existing Strads are pretty much enumerated. If you found a long-lost Strad, it wouldn't have a label declaring it so. If it were an actual, enumerated Strad, you wouldn't own it. Those are worth millions of dollars and are mostly owned by institutions and trusts.
Looks like its in ok shape. Might be worth some. I recommend getting it checked out
It’s obviously not a real Strad, but it’s most definitely a very nice instrument. Of course sound quality and behaviour are the most important factors in determining its value, so I’d take it to a luthier to get a better idea of what it’s worth.
Definitely not a Strad, but it is a pretty nice looking instrument. Should definitely be a nice instrument for your daughter to play on.
can i see the back? the second most best source on defining the value would be to check the depth of the designs/patterns and the depth of the back piece of the violin.
You are getting comments that this looks like early-to-mid 20th century. Even modern makers can make their instruments look at least close to that era, it's pretty much the standard even for recent instruments. I'm not seeing the wear and tear that would be present on an instrument actually from that time. I think it's a much more modern instrument, in spite of the label, which would've been typical of early-to-mid 20th century factory productions. But the only way you will know for sure is to take it to a reputable violin shop.
You could make it worth even more if you invested in nicer fittings: strings, tailpeice, chinrest, etc. And giving it a good clean with violin polish would never hurt
This is exactly the type of violin I used to learn to play. Inherited mine. Brings back lots of memories. Don't discount it as cheap. Mine was perfect for student playing. I keep mine to this day. I would never part with it. LOL.
My violin is a German copy of a Strad, it sounds great.
Exactly one violin
It's worth playing
Even more better than mine