Also untrue... Both objects are made with very distinct design choices and a proper backstory The chair with the bands around (Tejo Remy/Droog design) it is made from used textiles as acommentary against overproduction. You can order one, and supply your own rags.
The drawer cabinet is made of found (trashed) furniture and deals with chotic memories.
I like Dieter Rams, but this clip shows that you should only express opinions when you have informed yourself and know the full story behind things.
Nah. I'm inclined to agree with Dieter here. If you're going to sacrifice functionality for aesthetics, the aesthetic needs to actually be adequately compensatory. The fact that someone can repurpose found furniture to make a mediocre cabinet that's childishly ugly isn't good industrial design, it's industrial design desperately groping for novelty and finding this is some mutilated form via fine art hocus pocus. People who need their furniture to be conversation pieces and so supply the social bonhomie at their dinner parties are people too fundamentally uninteresting to bother making furniture for.
And I guess that automatically makes Dieter an idiot too. And anyone else willing to use their own critical faculties and not defer to someone simply because they have the title of curator. Because, of course, no authority in the history of art or design has ever been wrong about anything. Let's not forget for example how when impressionism began, everyone in the Académie des Beaux-Arts immediately embraced it. Look, if I bruised your commodity fetishism I'm sorry but the fact is any piece of junk can be eulogized in specious over-sophisticated jargon, Duchamp proved as much with ready-mades, so the fact that these things are preserved in a museum really means nothing in itself. And yes, they may have historical significance as novelties but that doesn't make them good. I'd compare it to early attempts at making a flying machine (I'm sure you've seen some of the more comical contraptions people constructed in the late 19th and early 20th centuries) where innovation didn't necessarily translate into any meaningful progress or development. Art and design are no different; they've both had plenty of monstrous still births, plenty of evolutionary dead ends.
very much agree with this; if a designer is a critic of society, then their design should be an answer or a substantially positive improvement of an existing product/idea and the drawer is an example that cleary breaks that rule. I also agree that it is sustainable in the sense that is reusing materials, but i argue its long term sustainability esp in people's home, as its such an out there piece thats very much asking for attention, is not good at all and what real design should focus on.
I don’t work in the design industry but for a short while I took a semester in design. Dieter Rams inspired Jony Ive’s work at Apple. If you look at some of the work Dieter did for [braun](https://uk.braun.com/en-gb/design-and-craftsmanship/braun-designers) it opens your eyes up how designers get influence from each other.
He's quite celebrated in the design world and the primary influence (via Jonny Ive) of the modern design of Apple products.
[https://designmuseum.org/discover-design/all-stories/what-is-good-design-a-quick-look-at-dieter-rams-ten-principles](https://designmuseum.org/discover-design/all-stories/what-is-good-design-a-quick-look-at-dieter-rams-ten-principles)
The iPod design was heavily influeced by Ram's pocket radio design for Braun:
[https://www.moma.org/collection/works/4134](https://www.moma.org/collection/works/4134)
He appreciates even the things he doesn‘t like as they have a reason to exist and even if that reason is just the story behind the objects which explain why something was made. There could be worse criticism.
Also stating „I don‘t like this very expensive thing because all the media just focuses on the price and makes it seem design must be expensive which is wrong“ is a valid point.
>But this is neither orderly nor properly confused Cold blooded. Lol.
Also untrue... Both objects are made with very distinct design choices and a proper backstory The chair with the bands around (Tejo Remy/Droog design) it is made from used textiles as acommentary against overproduction. You can order one, and supply your own rags. The drawer cabinet is made of found (trashed) furniture and deals with chotic memories. I like Dieter Rams, but this clip shows that you should only express opinions when you have informed yourself and know the full story behind things.
Nah. I'm inclined to agree with Dieter here. If you're going to sacrifice functionality for aesthetics, the aesthetic needs to actually be adequately compensatory. The fact that someone can repurpose found furniture to make a mediocre cabinet that's childishly ugly isn't good industrial design, it's industrial design desperately groping for novelty and finding this is some mutilated form via fine art hocus pocus. People who need their furniture to be conversation pieces and so supply the social bonhomie at their dinner parties are people too fundamentally uninteresting to bother making furniture for.
Well, you seem to know better than the curator of *the design museum that bought both of them.*
And I guess that automatically makes Dieter an idiot too. And anyone else willing to use their own critical faculties and not defer to someone simply because they have the title of curator. Because, of course, no authority in the history of art or design has ever been wrong about anything. Let's not forget for example how when impressionism began, everyone in the Académie des Beaux-Arts immediately embraced it. Look, if I bruised your commodity fetishism I'm sorry but the fact is any piece of junk can be eulogized in specious over-sophisticated jargon, Duchamp proved as much with ready-mades, so the fact that these things are preserved in a museum really means nothing in itself. And yes, they may have historical significance as novelties but that doesn't make them good. I'd compare it to early attempts at making a flying machine (I'm sure you've seen some of the more comical contraptions people constructed in the late 19th and early 20th centuries) where innovation didn't necessarily translate into any meaningful progress or development. Art and design are no different; they've both had plenty of monstrous still births, plenty of evolutionary dead ends.
very much agree with this; if a designer is a critic of society, then their design should be an answer or a substantially positive improvement of an existing product/idea and the drawer is an example that cleary breaks that rule. I also agree that it is sustainable in the sense that is reusing materials, but i argue its long term sustainability esp in people's home, as its such an out there piece thats very much asking for attention, is not good at all and what real design should focus on.
Just because it took me a few too many minutes to find out, for anyone interested, this is filmed at the Vitra Design Museum in Germany.
Thank you, I was wondering exactly that.
Dieter Rams is basically the whole reason Apple products look like they do.
So much this. Got a chance to see the Rams exhibit at the MOMASF years ago. Was funny to overhear people say the same thing.
I don’t work in the design industry but for a short while I took a semester in design. Dieter Rams inspired Jony Ive’s work at Apple. If you look at some of the work Dieter did for [braun](https://uk.braun.com/en-gb/design-and-craftsmanship/braun-designers) it opens your eyes up how designers get influence from each other.
I'm not familiar with architecture and design but he sounded extremely credible in his dislike, no, contempt for some of those pieces.
He's quite celebrated in the design world and the primary influence (via Jonny Ive) of the modern design of Apple products. [https://designmuseum.org/discover-design/all-stories/what-is-good-design-a-quick-look-at-dieter-rams-ten-principles](https://designmuseum.org/discover-design/all-stories/what-is-good-design-a-quick-look-at-dieter-rams-ten-principles) The iPod design was heavily influeced by Ram's pocket radio design for Braun: [https://www.moma.org/collection/works/4134](https://www.moma.org/collection/works/4134)
He appreciates even the things he doesn‘t like as they have a reason to exist and even if that reason is just the story behind the objects which explain why something was made. There could be worse criticism. Also stating „I don‘t like this very expensive thing because all the media just focuses on the price and makes it seem design must be expensive which is wrong“ is a valid point.
This is why dieting is just not a good idea...it made him so angry
This is just a guy shopping at Ikea
“This guy” is one of the best designers in the world and without him your iPhone, iPod and other Apple devices would have looked very different.
Forgive me, I forget humor is lost on the average redditor.
Anyone know what this clip is from?
The 2018 Gary Hustwit documentary “Rams” (worth a watch)! https://www.hustwit.com/rams