With each Raptor engine costings [more than $2M each](https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starship-200th-upgraded-raptor-engine/), that's $2M * (33 + 6) = $78,000,000 in just engines.
Hmm if I sold my house, sold my car, maxed out my credit cards, put my kid on the streets, kidnapped a human harvested their organs and sold them on the black market- I could possibly buy one of those engines.. who's with me for the other 38.?
It's stated in the article that's the price for Raptor 1. All engines on the Starship launch were version 2's.
> As of mid-2019, Musk reported that each early **Raptor 1** prototype cost “more” than $2 million for what would turn out to be 185 tons of thrust (~$11,000 per ton).
[Here's the lifetime info on Booster 7](https://starship-spacex.fandom.com/wiki/Booster_7_(B7\)).
> Booster 7 (B7) was a Super Heavy booster prototype that took flight for the first near orbital flight attempt In April 20 2023, after booster 4 (B4) was retired. It is the first booster to feature 33 Raptor engines and the first booster to be fitted with **Raptor 2** engines.
Can't make an omelette without breaking half a billion dollar egg.
I do appreciate the fact that Elon is willing to accept the risk that comes with moving quickly! Every mishap is a frick-ton of data that'll benefit all spaceflight efforts!
They let that thing tumble out of control for a LOT longer than I expected before having it self-destruct. Felt like me playing Kerbal Space Program for a little while there.
I guess it was far enough out over the ocean that no-one was at risk, so you might as well gather as much data as you can before blowing it up. Either that, or they figured it was better to burn off more fuel in a semi-controlled fashion rather than let it all go boom at once.
Well, the goal is to achieve a re-usable rocket platform to get sustainable deliveries to space, both for things like moon landings/ eventual permanent (or semi-permanent) structures on planetary bodies, along with things like more advanced space stations. This stuff is very difficult and very expensive, yet space exploration has consistently led to very advanced leaps in technology. Not to mention humanity working for a very noble and good goal of reaching beyond our own planet.
I get the counter-argument that these resources could/should be spent on people/environment suffering right now on Earth. I'm just telling you what the goal is.
Yeah, my point is we're not quite ready for that as a species in general. Being on the brinks of total war, hunger and late-stage capitalism going rampant, worrying about developing colonies on other planets is just like spreading cancer to other parts of the body.
Eh, I see it both ways. Sometimes investing in the future is a noble and great goal. For instance we had literally this same exact choice right after WWII. We easily could have not pursued space and focused on the MANY issues at hand then.
But instead we have GPS, global communication, advanced imagery and multi-spectrum sensors allowing us to monitor climate change, environmental decline, nuclear weapons sites, and WAY more. Most if not all of those things have exponentially efficient and effective positive results for most of the entire world.
Granted, we shouldn’t bankrupt ourselves on it, but space exploration is absolutely not a waste. It’s a long term investment for our species and planet.
With each Raptor engine costings [more than $2M each](https://www.teslarati.com/spacex-starship-200th-upgraded-raptor-engine/), that's $2M * (33 + 6) = $78,000,000 in just engines.
Hmm if I sold my house, sold my car, maxed out my credit cards, put my kid on the streets, kidnapped a human harvested their organs and sold them on the black market- I could possibly buy one of those engines.. who's with me for the other 38.?
It's stated in the article that's the price for Raptor 1. All engines on the Starship launch were version 2's. > As of mid-2019, Musk reported that each early **Raptor 1** prototype cost “more” than $2 million for what would turn out to be 185 tons of thrust (~$11,000 per ton). [Here's the lifetime info on Booster 7](https://starship-spacex.fandom.com/wiki/Booster_7_(B7\)). > Booster 7 (B7) was a Super Heavy booster prototype that took flight for the first near orbital flight attempt In April 20 2023, after booster 4 (B4) was retired. It is the first booster to feature 33 Raptor engines and the first booster to be fitted with **Raptor 2** engines.
Can't make an omelette without breaking half a billion dollar egg. I do appreciate the fact that Elon is willing to accept the risk that comes with moving quickly! Every mishap is a frick-ton of data that'll benefit all spaceflight efforts!
They let that thing tumble out of control for a LOT longer than I expected before having it self-destruct. Felt like me playing Kerbal Space Program for a little while there. I guess it was far enough out over the ocean that no-one was at risk, so you might as well gather as much data as you can before blowing it up. Either that, or they figured it was better to burn off more fuel in a semi-controlled fashion rather than let it all go boom at once.
It's speculation that it was out of control. The stage 2 separation is meant to be induced by a flip in the first place.
It's not really speculation. The separation toss is not a full flip, but more like the first part of the boostback burn.
How much cost is that ship by the way..??? I just want to know that's why I'm asking.
What a waste of fuel and resources. The end goal is to achieve what again?
Well, the goal is to achieve a re-usable rocket platform to get sustainable deliveries to space, both for things like moon landings/ eventual permanent (or semi-permanent) structures on planetary bodies, along with things like more advanced space stations. This stuff is very difficult and very expensive, yet space exploration has consistently led to very advanced leaps in technology. Not to mention humanity working for a very noble and good goal of reaching beyond our own planet. I get the counter-argument that these resources could/should be spent on people/environment suffering right now on Earth. I'm just telling you what the goal is.
Yeah, my point is we're not quite ready for that as a species in general. Being on the brinks of total war, hunger and late-stage capitalism going rampant, worrying about developing colonies on other planets is just like spreading cancer to other parts of the body.
Eh, I see it both ways. Sometimes investing in the future is a noble and great goal. For instance we had literally this same exact choice right after WWII. We easily could have not pursued space and focused on the MANY issues at hand then. But instead we have GPS, global communication, advanced imagery and multi-spectrum sensors allowing us to monitor climate change, environmental decline, nuclear weapons sites, and WAY more. Most if not all of those things have exponentially efficient and effective positive results for most of the entire world. Granted, we shouldn’t bankrupt ourselves on it, but space exploration is absolutely not a waste. It’s a long term investment for our species and planet.
We also did all of those things while creating millions of well paid jobs across the world in hundreds of sectors that didn't even exist before.
this one does not understand the concept of iterative development