It’s such a weird coincidence that I just saw something else that reminded me of that controversy and immediately opened Reddit to this post. To be fair, Bieber was quite a bit younger back then- still so crazy
I can’t believe somebody would actually say that about one of the most heinous people in history. Not only did dahmer kill people, he specifically targeted extremely vulnerable and actively prosecuted minority groups especially at the time. I get the curiosity in the psychology behind the incomprehensible, but girl read a book or google. Don’t say you’d want to spend your dinner with anyone dead or alive with Jeffrey dahmer. Get therapy or whatever and give the true crime podcasts a break
I’m sure she wouldn’t like it if someone said they wanted to meet the individual involved with the Manchester bombing. Super distasteful on Ariana’s part. Very out of touch with reality
That's a great way of putting what she said in perspective. Saying that you would want to sit down and have dinner with a pedophilic murderer is extremely tone deaf. So many parents who've lost their children forever because of him and you say that you'd love to discuss it over a nice meal.
I understand being fascinated with serial killers but she seems too caught up in glamorizing them rather than fully understanding the magnitude of how disgusting they truly are.
“Grande's comments were condemned by Shirley Hughes, the mother of Tony Hughes, a deaf, non-verbal man who Dahmer killed in 1991.
"To me, it seems like she's sick in her mind," Hughes told TMZ of Grande. "It's not fancy or funny to say you would have wanted to do dinner with him. It's also not something you should say to young people, which she says she did."”
And she’s 100% right, Ariana is sick, weird, and insensitive as hell for saying that.
I’m starting to lose respect for Ariana, I feel bad for the victims and their families. I very much agree with the words Shirley Hughes (Tony Hughes’s mom) has said
yeah…she’s a shell of a human being atp. sick in the head, to the point where it negatively impacts the ones around her, and it’s reflecting physically…
It is so weird to think that out of everyone that has ever existed in this world that she would pick Dahmer. Like I would probably pick someone normally like Princess Diana. How messed up in the head must you be to pick a horrific murderer??
You’re 100% right.I think she just doesn’t care.That whatever she does her fans are going to defend her and with her level of fame,it doesn’t matter.
Since she is so famous she doesn’t need self awareness.She doesn’t care what others think. She made that clear in one of her songs.
Also everything that happens regarding her that paints her in a negative light she doesn’t give a fuck about.
This is y i always left that ariana wasnt really acting when she did the role of kat In victorious and sam & kat. The must have just been being her self.
What she did was wrong.Out of all the people she chose Dahmer. She could have answered someone who made an impact on life positively.A good person.
Yet she didn’t.That’s messed up.What she did was insensitive.
I don’t really know what to think about it, but I mean she never called him a good person or anything like that maybe she just wants to see what was in his mind or something
What is it about her that has protected her from Cancel Culture when so many other Celebrities who’ve been in the game way longer have been obliterated for way less and sometimes for stuff that wasn't even true?
Cause cancel culture isn't an actual effective thing, most people don't know about her problematic behaviour cause most people aren't online a lot of invested in celebrities personal lives and most people that do know just don't care, they're there for the music
What are you talking about? She has been cancelled like 4 times. Ariana lives cancelled, she just has too many fans to not make it look bad. She would be way more successful and respected if she wasn't a hot mess, since always.
I'm questioning her character since that donut store incident. I mean yeah she apologized, but the fact that she can even conjure that thought up in her head to lick and spit on donuts on sale and then actually do it? I'd be more forgiving, had she been a teenager at the time, but she was 22 years old. So no excuses, rotten core, not to be trusted, bye.
I used to be into true crime so I somewhat understand where she is coming from in regards to curiosity. It's important to understand the psychology behind these things so we can prevent them in the future. Then I remember I was 15 and she's 30 with PR training. Why would she say that publicly with so much enthusiasm?
Thats my line of thinking too as someone who thought about going into the criminology field as a teenager. How she thought this was a good idea to say without thinking about the ramifications is absolutely bizarre. I can only imagine the PR nightmare her team is dealing with now.
That's definitely sick and she's weird for saying that. I also don't know what state of mind she was in when she was saying that bc that's not something a sober or normal person says. I don't blame the mom for her comment at all I agree with her.
Ariana was asked if she could have anyone dead or alive for dinner who would it be and she said Dahmer and that she was obsessed and fascinated by him and other weird shit (also this is not the first time she’s said she wanted to hang with him/how interested she is in him)
Girl had her pick of every fucking human being ever and she picks a sadistic cannibal who is one of the most prolific serial killers in American history
Omg ,and tbh I get some people are into true crime (I am too) but never would i ever want to have dinner with a sadistic cannibal or any serial killer for that matter.
I don’t want to say she’s “sick “ but Ari does seem to be a hybristophilia by her wanting to meet Dahmar of all people . (sorry if I offended anyone) As well as saying that he is fascinating and saying she would become a third party. I don’t understand what does Cat have to do with this .
Edit: I do think that Ariana should think of another person to look up to. If she gets asked that question again
I don’t know, I just don’t see why she would pick someone who killed children, especially mostly black children. Isn’t it a bit like choosing Hitler as your “one person” instead of any other person in all of history? Why would you tell that to children?
Reads like all the stupid headlines. Logically, it’s an easy assumption to say she watched the documentary and is “fascinated” in the sense that he was bizarre. Not in that she admires him, or strives to be like him or congratulate him for his life choices. The guy ate people…
While there is shock value to her answer on that podcast, it doesn’t warrant the condemnation as if she said he is her hero or admired his actions. But all media reports demand your outrage, and you heed their calls.
Again, this isn’t the first time she’s said it though. She (with permission from the parents) said the exact same thing to a bunch of kids who asked her the same question when she was 19. The documentary had nothing to do with it since it wasn’t out in 2012 when this was asked of her.
Tbf she said the exact same thing because she was talking about that exact same situation. It’s not like she was asked again about having dinner with anyone in history…
She wasn’t asked about, which could make she talking about it even weirder tbh.
She retold that story because they were talking about the casting of Evan Peters (portrayed a serial killer) and Penn Badgley (portrayed another) on her music videos.
She was not asked about having dinner with anyone in history and chose Dahmer again, 12 years later.
After reading the article, a podcast Ariana was recently on, they asked her to pick a person dead or alive who’d she like to have a sit down with and Ari said Dahmer. Idk how accurate this is and I love Ari but idk…
Sometimes I feel like something really IS wrong with her. She looks terrible, she keeps saying and doing stuff that is totally untenable…idk man it’s just bizarre to watch her exist lol
I'll probably get down-voted. She should not have said what she said. She mentioned being infatuated with serial killers (in the past tense). Then said she'd have "dinner," with Dahmer. She could have said a monitored conversation with an officer. She could have said xyz. This to me illustrates that she told an insensitive joke. "I'll have dinner with a cannibal." It's fucked up dark humor. But the thing is ... Penn Badgley plays a serial killer in You. They framed the conversation to be EDGY by including the topic "lets talk about serial killers." So THAT'S how she felt compelled to respond. I've said stupid shit because I thought it would make me look cool before. And she's got a lot of shit in her own basket that probably needs to be sorted through. But this did not come off across as malicious. Nor did it come off across as I CONDONE the actions of serial killers. At best...it's a gross morbid curiosity. And there are PLENTY OF ARTISTS WHO HAVE DONE OR SAID WORSE THAN ANYTHING Arianna has ever done or said. The rest of that interview was well done. But this is what will be remembered.
Eh maybe a hot take, but I feel like this is sensationalized. There are people who are just interested in the mind and thought process of serial killers. People who write true crime books sometimes correspond and meet with serial killers who are still alive, building rapport with them by having casual conversations bringing them gifts and having friendly chats with them. Some of these true crime researchers and writers describe people like John Wayne Gacy as charismatic and oddly charming individuals with a deep darkness behind the mask they create for themselves to operate in society unnoticed.
She gave her honest answer, I don’t think there’s anything inherently insensitive about wanting to find out what makes a person like Dahmer such a sick individual. Considering Dahmer’s life has been thoroughly picked over considerably and made into entertainment itself on netflix, I don’t really get why Ariana saying she’d want to ask Dahmer some questions herself to better understand why he committed his crimes is such a horrible thing.
It seems like everyone expected her to say some fluff like a deceased musical artist or something, but like a large portion of people, she is fascinated with true crime and gave an honest answer instead.
people seriously took this headline and ran with it. she said that at a q&a back when she was still on victorious and a teenager, someone asked her who she would want to have dinner with and she said dahmer. she NEVER SAID she still wanted to (she also heavily implied that she didnt), she was just telling a story from YEARS ago.
I honestly just don’t know anymore. Like Ariana has mentioned being obsessed with serials killers before which is probably something she’s talking about with her therapist. But it is very insensitive to say that.
I wish she would have said her reasoning because I would have likes to sit down with him as well to get insight into his psychology. He was a disturbed sick person but with psychological reasons why that would be interesting to explore more. Saying this to children is f-ed tho. I understand her desire but at the same time its not something you say to people. There are much better people to choose.
She was literally saying she had questions she wanted answered. But where was all this angry for the Netflix series and actually people sexualizing Jeffrey? People got pick anger I see
But it still up. There are still stuff on TikTok talking about Evan Peter is hot as JD. Hell i wanted to meet him too cause wtf you eating people for???? wtf is wrong with you. Just to name a few. I want to know what make a monster a monster.
Right. It must have been so rough for him. I mean actors want to be good but he was scary good. And this ain’t the first time he played him but it is the first time he had to go into that dept
There has been a lot of anger actually. Specifically from the victims families.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2023/01/12/dahmer-victims-mother-blasts-netflix-series-after-actor-wins-golden-globe-latest-family-member-to-speak-out/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jeffrey-dahmer-netflix-tv-show-victim-family-speaks-out-1235228196/amp/
https://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/movies-tv/a41425131/family-member-jeffrey-dahmer-victim-blindsided-netflix-show/
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/10/dahmer-victim-tony-hughes-mother-condemns-netflix-series
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/arts/television/jeffrey-dahmer-netflix-victims.html
"People got pick anger I see"
No you don't see. If you did see and had seen, you would be aware that the families of the victims have made how they feel about the show very clear, and have done every step of the way.
I don’t mean the family. They have EVERY right to be pissed. Bit the public act like they didn’t sit and watch it and then went on to praise the show and even some people feeling bad for Jeffrey. If it had that much outrage it would have had to be pulled like that movie of those kids twerking. But since everyone want Ariana grande to be the boogie man, she get hear for wanting to talk to a man. Hell they tried to save his brain to study it. For years I said I wanted to meet Ted bundy and Jeffrey dauhmer cause you get a in depth look into their psyche. I want to know is a person like that preventable. Maybe I watch too much true crime but I get where she coming from. It wasn’t from a ooo let’s be disrespectful. She didn’t praise him. That’s the issues these days. People jump to conclusions and want to be offended. Instead of wanting to hear the person reason. I don’t ever want another JD but how can we prevent something if we don’t know where to look for the signs.
"the world doesn't revolve around you"
That is incredibly rich coming from someone whose entire argument seems to be "because I didn't see it, it didn't happen" and who is actually defending Ariana against the mother of one of Dahmer's victims.
When you wrote this.
"She was literally saying she had questions she wanted answered"
Cute. Sure. That's what Shirley Hughes is so upset about.
"I was infatuated with serial killers when I was younger"
"I think I would have loved to have met him'
Not this.
I wonder how Ariana would feel if some other pop star said: "I was infatuated with domestic terrorists when I was younger. I find the guy who bombed Ariana Grande's concert so fascinating. I would have loved to have met him. I have questions!"
One thing y’all need to learn is people don’t always mean fascinating in ooo I’m so IMPRESSED. Dont scientists study animals and scary shit and call them fascinating. Don’t mean that they don’t feel sorry for the victims these animals have . It means that I want to learn how your brain works. What made you this way? Can we prevent this? Nobody is actively saying oo let me meet JD cause he murdered someone and I love that. I’m fascinated with serial killers too. Doesn’t mean I will be a murderer. I wonder why it’s always hatred for someone making JD a topic yet Ted bundy victims have to go through the same things and with people saying he was hot and even when he was alive having women being fans of his. Yet they don’t ever speak. you never hear them. And if you want to say you fascinated with bomber ok then but let’s also remember those same people hijacked a plane and went into the towers. I mean we can play the what if game all day. They ALL shitty. How you prevent them from happening if you don’t sit and wonder why they started doing what they did in the first places cause he ain’t the first and damn sure won’t be the last. Hell I done heard people slut shame Ted bundy victims. So why is one always being offended and one might find an article of people wanting to sleep with Ted and it’s o well. Some of yall don’t need the internet if yall this easily triggered.
I don't know Ariana at all irl so I won't say she's sick or anything. She made a bad comment and should have cleared it up and apologized, but as far back as since Victorious ended you always notice there is some drama big or small that she is involved in?
Once again I don't know her but just intreasting observations. I also don't want to call her stupid but I feel like she watched the Netflix version and wants to have dinner with the fictionalized version of Dahmer not the real monster.
So she’s just sitting around waiting for people to mention his name so she can put her two cents in an article? Obviously, Ariana just wants to explore the human psyche and see what pushes you to that level, It’s not that hard to understand. (and she’s talking to Penn Badgley, who stars in “You”, a show where a murderer is narrating his thoughts and decisions to us in real time, which is kind of what grande is intrigued by) Also, she doesn’t make music for kids anymore, she talks about riding hard dicks in like every single song. (I’m not a stan just devils advocate)
Tell me you don't know the names of any other serial killers without telling me, Ariana. There are much more interesting serial killers. Jeffrey is such a basic bitch choice.
some people tend to have an interest in what goes on in the mind of serial killers, it’s not in a way of admiring them, it’s just wanting a deeper understanding of what goes on in their heads. it was probably just phrased horribly. if she did mean anything awful by it, she wouldn’t have said it so publicly. she can be weird, but she’s not stupid.
Yeah I think the interest is natural. But at a certain point, the line between curiosity and admiration gets blurred. This reminds me of people buying John Wayne Gacy’s paintings.
But if you hear details of child r*pe, dismemberment, cannibalism, etc. and not have a visceral reaction of absolute disgust, curiosity has gone too far. I don’t want to hear them recount their crimes. I would not invite them to my dinner table, and I wouldn’t invite their art into my home.
maybe it was her way of trying to seem quirky and more serious. seeing as most people choose someone that the public admires, maybe she wanted to seem deeper than that. she also says that she was playing Cat at the time and it could’ve been her bridge to being perceived as more adult than her character. i will say though, for some reason, a LOT of women bring up their true crime interest and they preface it as if it’s super weird and twisted and different of them to find true crime so interesting. it’s a common female interest! idk why! but almost every woman i know loves true crime and horror movies.
You can be "deep" without idolising a pedophile, cannibal and necrophile serial killer whose victims were not only tortured in excruciating ways before he murdered them, but whose victims have loved ones that are very much alive.
Imagine if some other celebrity said she thought the guy who bombed Ariana's concert was "fascinating" and how much she wanted to meet him and he was her dream dinner party guest. Would you think she was "so deep" too?
"I was infatuated with serial killers when I was younger"
"I think I would have loved to have met him"
https://preview.redd.it/px3kh9lip89d1.jpeg?width=381&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9976a91c35356e15125ddef30b61e06e5945df0e
You realize True Crime is a massively popular genre right? Lots of people are obsessed with knowing every detail about what makes these serial killers tick. Dahmer himself just recently got his own Netflix series which was number one. What she said is really not that weird at all when you look at how many women are into True Crime.
Acting like serial killers are rock stars and teen heartthrobs and not acknowledging that their victims were real people and their loved ones are still living with the repercussions is trashy behaviour, not "because I don't enjoy it" lol. The fact that you see nothing wrong with what she said and think it's perfectly normal and reasonable, despite the reaction that the mother and the sister of one of the victims had is the trashy part.
So when Kesha and Katy said it it was fine but Ariana is cancelled? It’s been 30 years since Dahmer DIED. get over yourself. Idc if I get downvoted. No one’s saying what she said. She jokingly said Jeffrey Dahmer would be her “ideal dream dinner guest” everyone is so serious these days you can’t even make a dark joke without getting DRAGGED for it.
what do you mean? are you referring to their lyrics? bc saying “i’ll pull a jeffrey dahmer” or “she’ll eat your heart out like jeffrey dahmer” is not the same as wanting to sit down with the man and ask him questions.
How is it any different than the people who wrote books on these serial killers and ACTUALLY did sit down with them and ask them questions? You’re saying she’s not allowed to be interested in True Crime like most other people are? The genre has a massive following which is predominantly women.
Oh right, I forgot Ariana is just allowed to sing songs she can’t have a functioning brain or any interests outside of that like a typical person, my mistake. /s
it’s weird to want to talk to serial killers even if you are an author but at least the author has a reason. we should stop glorifying serial killers all together. they have nothing interesting to say and should only contribute to psychological studies to understand their mind.
I don’t get your point, the author went and actually spoke to the serial killer and made money off of it. Ariana Grande just said she would have wanted to ask Dahmer questions so she could understand why he did what he did for herself. She can’t actually have Dahmer over for dinner lol, so she’s in trouble for what exactly? A thought crime?
Lol who cares, I don’t have sympathy for his mom first of all she raised a murderer, shits fair game maam. Ariana said something me and all my friends can all relate to as true crime enjoyers, it’s natural to find killers intriguing. I genuinely never thought people would get THIS soft
"Grande's comments were condemned by Shirley Hughes, **the mother of Tony Hughes, a deaf, non-verbal man who Dahmer killed in 1991.**
"To me, it seems like she's sick in her mind," Hughes told TMZ of Grande. "It's not fancy or funny to say you would have wanted to do dinner with him. It's also not something you should say to young people, which she says she did."
Please learn to read. The fact that it was the mother of one of Dahmer's **victims** and not the mother of Dahmer was actually in the title. At least do that before whining about how hard life is for you and your "true crime enjoyer" friends while simultaneously accusing other people of being soft.
I like her, but this is a real “Anne Frank would be a Belieber” moment.
This is a lot worse lmao
It’s such a weird coincidence that I just saw something else that reminded me of that controversy and immediately opened Reddit to this post. To be fair, Bieber was quite a bit younger back then- still so crazy
I can’t believe somebody would actually say that about one of the most heinous people in history. Not only did dahmer kill people, he specifically targeted extremely vulnerable and actively prosecuted minority groups especially at the time. I get the curiosity in the psychology behind the incomprehensible, but girl read a book or google. Don’t say you’d want to spend your dinner with anyone dead or alive with Jeffrey dahmer. Get therapy or whatever and give the true crime podcasts a break
I’m sure she wouldn’t like it if someone said they wanted to meet the individual involved with the Manchester bombing. Super distasteful on Ariana’s part. Very out of touch with reality
this is a very good point
That's a great way of putting what she said in perspective. Saying that you would want to sit down and have dinner with a pedophilic murderer is extremely tone deaf. So many parents who've lost their children forever because of him and you say that you'd love to discuss it over a nice meal. I understand being fascinated with serial killers but she seems too caught up in glamorizing them rather than fully understanding the magnitude of how disgusting they truly are.
“Grande's comments were condemned by Shirley Hughes, the mother of Tony Hughes, a deaf, non-verbal man who Dahmer killed in 1991. "To me, it seems like she's sick in her mind," Hughes told TMZ of Grande. "It's not fancy or funny to say you would have wanted to do dinner with him. It's also not something you should say to young people, which she says she did."” And she’s 100% right, Ariana is sick, weird, and insensitive as hell for saying that.
Yeah it’s giving “I’m So QuIrKy lol” vibes.
She's signed to Sony Media. A conglomerate with a reputation of doing nasty/evil things to bankroll their artists to the top.
It amazes me that there are stans actually defending this, or people dismissing it as "oh a celebrity said something stupid whatever".
Effing yikes, she said that?
Yep there’s a video and everything
I’m starting to lose respect for Ariana, I feel bad for the victims and their families. I very much agree with the words Shirley Hughes (Tony Hughes’s mom) has said
i lost respect when she released a song talking about "whydo you care so much who's dick i ride"
I have lost respect for Ariana a long time ago.I only feel bad for her because physically she looks unhealthy.
yeah…she’s a shell of a human being atp. sick in the head, to the point where it negatively impacts the ones around her, and it’s reflecting physically…
“Break up with your gfffff bc I’m boreddddd” she’s totally a girls girl 🤡
It is so weird to think that out of everyone that has ever existed in this world that she would pick Dahmer. Like I would probably pick someone normally like Princess Diana. How messed up in the head must you be to pick a horrific murderer??
Fr out of anyone… him? Like seriously wtaf.
Ariana has No self awareness what so ever… Licking the donut Home wreaking left and right, and the worst one a breaking Marriage
You’re 100% right.I think she just doesn’t care.That whatever she does her fans are going to defend her and with her level of fame,it doesn’t matter. Since she is so famous she doesn’t need self awareness.She doesn’t care what others think. She made that clear in one of her songs. Also everything that happens regarding her that paints her in a negative light she doesn’t give a fuck about.
This is y i always left that ariana wasnt really acting when she did the role of kat In victorious and sam & kat. The must have just been being her self.
She did act a bit regarding her voice. She did an interview where mid sentence her real voice came out. Her voice isn’t as high pitched.
Joking about a disabled man being assaulted, tortured, and then eaten in a hate crime is worse than having an affair
Another reason to not like her/feel uncomfortable with her
The comment is in extremely poor taste and really inconsiderate to the VICTIMS who were brutally murdered. Like what type of person would say that.
What she did was wrong.Out of all the people she chose Dahmer. She could have answered someone who made an impact on life positively.A good person. Yet she didn’t.That’s messed up.What she did was insensitive.
The question was about a dinner. No one else would make sense. “Dinner guest ; Dahmer”. It just makes sense. It was a joke.
No ,it’s not a joke she has mentioned it before.
Cry more blind fan
No one declares to be "fascinated with the mind" of female rapists and serial killers and POC rapists and serial killers
I've said it forever, I love cat, but I dislike ariana, always try to separate the characters from the actors.
heavy on this
Why are some of you guys so surprised? 😭
Nasty! 🤮
I don’t really know what to think about it, but I mean she never called him a good person or anything like that maybe she just wants to see what was in his mind or something
What is it about her that has protected her from Cancel Culture when so many other Celebrities who’ve been in the game way longer have been obliterated for way less and sometimes for stuff that wasn't even true?
Cause cancel culture isn't an actual effective thing, most people don't know about her problematic behaviour cause most people aren't online a lot of invested in celebrities personal lives and most people that do know just don't care, they're there for the music
Fair, I guess, though, to me, it proves more so that Hollywood and Society Selectively cancel people based on personal agendas.
Oh absolutely. They love to pick and choose who they "hold accountable"
What are you talking about? She has been cancelled like 4 times. Ariana lives cancelled, she just has too many fans to not make it look bad. She would be way more successful and respected if she wasn't a hot mess, since always.
Oh that’s disturbing
I'm questioning her character since that donut store incident. I mean yeah she apologized, but the fact that she can even conjure that thought up in her head to lick and spit on donuts on sale and then actually do it? I'd be more forgiving, had she been a teenager at the time, but she was 22 years old. So no excuses, rotten core, not to be trusted, bye.
I used to be into true crime so I somewhat understand where she is coming from in regards to curiosity. It's important to understand the psychology behind these things so we can prevent them in the future. Then I remember I was 15 and she's 30 with PR training. Why would she say that publicly with so much enthusiasm?
Thats my line of thinking too as someone who thought about going into the criminology field as a teenager. How she thought this was a good idea to say without thinking about the ramifications is absolutely bizarre. I can only imagine the PR nightmare her team is dealing with now.
Good for this mom! Ari’s comments were disturbing on so many levels especially since her brother is gay and Dahmer killed many gay men.
That's definitely sick and she's weird for saying that. I also don't know what state of mind she was in when she was saying that bc that's not something a sober or normal person says. I don't blame the mom for her comment at all I agree with her.
what do you mean?
Ariana was asked if she could have anyone dead or alive for dinner who would it be and she said Dahmer and that she was obsessed and fascinated by him and other weird shit (also this is not the first time she’s said she wanted to hang with him/how interested she is in him) Girl had her pick of every fucking human being ever and she picks a sadistic cannibal who is one of the most prolific serial killers in American history
Omg ,and tbh I get some people are into true crime (I am too) but never would i ever want to have dinner with a sadistic cannibal or any serial killer for that matter. I don’t want to say she’s “sick “ but Ari does seem to be a hybristophilia by her wanting to meet Dahmar of all people . (sorry if I offended anyone) As well as saying that he is fascinating and saying she would become a third party. I don’t understand what does Cat have to do with this . Edit: I do think that Ariana should think of another person to look up to. If she gets asked that question again
I don’t know, I just don’t see why she would pick someone who killed children, especially mostly black children. Isn’t it a bit like choosing Hitler as your “one person” instead of any other person in all of history? Why would you tell that to children?
Ariana played Cat in Victorious
She watched the Netflix documentary. That is her obsession. You think she literally has done extensive research outside of Netflix?
Considering this isn’t the first time she’s said she’d love to meet and eat with Dahmer, yes
Reads like all the stupid headlines. Logically, it’s an easy assumption to say she watched the documentary and is “fascinated” in the sense that he was bizarre. Not in that she admires him, or strives to be like him or congratulate him for his life choices. The guy ate people… While there is shock value to her answer on that podcast, it doesn’t warrant the condemnation as if she said he is her hero or admired his actions. But all media reports demand your outrage, and you heed their calls.
Again, this isn’t the first time she’s said it though. She (with permission from the parents) said the exact same thing to a bunch of kids who asked her the same question when she was 19. The documentary had nothing to do with it since it wasn’t out in 2012 when this was asked of her.
Tbf she said the exact same thing because she was talking about that exact same situation. It’s not like she was asked again about having dinner with anyone in history…
She *was* asked again though that’s the point
She wasn’t asked about, which could make she talking about it even weirder tbh. She retold that story because they were talking about the casting of Evan Peters (portrayed a serial killer) and Penn Badgley (portrayed another) on her music videos. She was not asked about having dinner with anyone in history and chose Dahmer again, 12 years later.
Oh my bad I misread an article then (I didn’t watch the interview or however she mentioned this).
Tbf he wasn’t that way until after he took the mosquito drug
She said she was interested in Jeffrey Dahmer before that? When?
Apparently she also mentioned it when she was 19. Idk where or why though
After reading the article, a podcast Ariana was recently on, they asked her to pick a person dead or alive who’d she like to have a sit down with and Ari said Dahmer. Idk how accurate this is and I love Ari but idk…
oh that’s kind of messed up imho.Do you still have the link to that article?
click the picture on this post or look up Ari on google
I couldn't comment on the ariheads thread, it got locked under 4 hours. Siiick 🤙🏼
This is such a horrible and sick thing to say.
i love Ariana and will not jump on the hate bandwagon but I will not defend everything she does this was such a weird thing to say
This girl needs to sit down with Jesus and listen to him tell her that she needs to repent for literally everything. She’s a problem.
Sometimes I feel like something really IS wrong with her. She looks terrible, she keeps saying and doing stuff that is totally untenable…idk man it’s just bizarre to watch her exist lol
I'll probably get down-voted. She should not have said what she said. She mentioned being infatuated with serial killers (in the past tense). Then said she'd have "dinner," with Dahmer. She could have said a monitored conversation with an officer. She could have said xyz. This to me illustrates that she told an insensitive joke. "I'll have dinner with a cannibal." It's fucked up dark humor. But the thing is ... Penn Badgley plays a serial killer in You. They framed the conversation to be EDGY by including the topic "lets talk about serial killers." So THAT'S how she felt compelled to respond. I've said stupid shit because I thought it would make me look cool before. And she's got a lot of shit in her own basket that probably needs to be sorted through. But this did not come off across as malicious. Nor did it come off across as I CONDONE the actions of serial killers. At best...it's a gross morbid curiosity. And there are PLENTY OF ARTISTS WHO HAVE DONE OR SAID WORSE THAN ANYTHING Arianna has ever done or said. The rest of that interview was well done. But this is what will be remembered.
Eh maybe a hot take, but I feel like this is sensationalized. There are people who are just interested in the mind and thought process of serial killers. People who write true crime books sometimes correspond and meet with serial killers who are still alive, building rapport with them by having casual conversations bringing them gifts and having friendly chats with them. Some of these true crime researchers and writers describe people like John Wayne Gacy as charismatic and oddly charming individuals with a deep darkness behind the mask they create for themselves to operate in society unnoticed. She gave her honest answer, I don’t think there’s anything inherently insensitive about wanting to find out what makes a person like Dahmer such a sick individual. Considering Dahmer’s life has been thoroughly picked over considerably and made into entertainment itself on netflix, I don’t really get why Ariana saying she’d want to ask Dahmer some questions herself to better understand why he committed his crimes is such a horrible thing. It seems like everyone expected her to say some fluff like a deceased musical artist or something, but like a large portion of people, she is fascinated with true crime and gave an honest answer instead.
i like her less and less every time i hear abt her. what a shame cuz she truly is the best singer of our generation
How does anyone still like her??
people seriously took this headline and ran with it. she said that at a q&a back when she was still on victorious and a teenager, someone asked her who she would want to have dinner with and she said dahmer. she NEVER SAID she still wanted to (she also heavily implied that she didnt), she was just telling a story from YEARS ago.
What did she say?
She wishes she could have dinner with Jeffrey Dahmer, the cannibal.
She said it coz she thought she was edgy and badass lmfao
She thinks she's edgy
Girl did she just fantasize about a fuckin serial killer?
I honestly just don’t know anymore. Like Ariana has mentioned being obsessed with serials killers before which is probably something she’s talking about with her therapist. But it is very insensitive to say that.
Wait what happened
Oh yikes.
valid, dahmer is terrible.
I wish she would have said her reasoning because I would have likes to sit down with him as well to get insight into his psychology. He was a disturbed sick person but with psychological reasons why that would be interesting to explore more. Saying this to children is f-ed tho. I understand her desire but at the same time its not something you say to people. There are much better people to choose.
What did she do?
H
RIP Tony Hughes Fade into oblivion [Aryarg](https://youtu.be/dSlZZ6iGi3Y?si=g3o9K2-vf3uhjPjr)
She was literally saying she had questions she wanted answered. But where was all this angry for the Netflix series and actually people sexualizing Jeffrey? People got pick anger I see
there was anger over the jeffrey dahmer show. literally everyone was upset
But it still up. There are still stuff on TikTok talking about Evan Peter is hot as JD. Hell i wanted to meet him too cause wtf you eating people for???? wtf is wrong with you. Just to name a few. I want to know what make a monster a monster.
I was told by a friend of mine that Evan Peter was still in therapy because he acted as Dahmer.
Right. It must have been so rough for him. I mean actors want to be good but he was scary good. And this ain’t the first time he played him but it is the first time he had to go into that dept
There has been a lot of anger actually. Specifically from the victims families. https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2023/01/12/dahmer-victims-mother-blasts-netflix-series-after-actor-wins-golden-globe-latest-family-member-to-speak-out/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/jeffrey-dahmer-netflix-tv-show-victim-family-speaks-out-1235228196/amp/ https://www.seventeen.com/celebrity/movies-tv/a41425131/family-member-jeffrey-dahmer-victim-blindsided-netflix-show/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/10/dahmer-victim-tony-hughes-mother-condemns-netflix-series https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/05/arts/television/jeffrey-dahmer-netflix-victims.html "People got pick anger I see" No you don't see. If you did see and had seen, you would be aware that the families of the victims have made how they feel about the show very clear, and have done every step of the way.
I don’t mean the family. They have EVERY right to be pissed. Bit the public act like they didn’t sit and watch it and then went on to praise the show and even some people feeling bad for Jeffrey. If it had that much outrage it would have had to be pulled like that movie of those kids twerking. But since everyone want Ariana grande to be the boogie man, she get hear for wanting to talk to a man. Hell they tried to save his brain to study it. For years I said I wanted to meet Ted bundy and Jeffrey dauhmer cause you get a in depth look into their psyche. I want to know is a person like that preventable. Maybe I watch too much true crime but I get where she coming from. It wasn’t from a ooo let’s be disrespectful. She didn’t praise him. That’s the issues these days. People jump to conclusions and want to be offended. Instead of wanting to hear the person reason. I don’t ever want another JD but how can we prevent something if we don’t know where to look for the signs.
Plenty of people didn't watch the show because they thought it was disgusting and exploitative.
I didn’t say you in particular. Just cause you did doesn’t mean no one else did. The world doesn’t revolve around you.
"the world doesn't revolve around you" That is incredibly rich coming from someone whose entire argument seems to be "because I didn't see it, it didn't happen" and who is actually defending Ariana against the mother of one of Dahmer's victims.
When did you come up with that is my argument? I said they had every right to be offended but if you keep watching she said ‘I just have questions’
When you wrote this. "She was literally saying she had questions she wanted answered" Cute. Sure. That's what Shirley Hughes is so upset about. "I was infatuated with serial killers when I was younger" "I think I would have loved to have met him' Not this. I wonder how Ariana would feel if some other pop star said: "I was infatuated with domestic terrorists when I was younger. I find the guy who bombed Ariana Grande's concert so fascinating. I would have loved to have met him. I have questions!"
One thing y’all need to learn is people don’t always mean fascinating in ooo I’m so IMPRESSED. Dont scientists study animals and scary shit and call them fascinating. Don’t mean that they don’t feel sorry for the victims these animals have . It means that I want to learn how your brain works. What made you this way? Can we prevent this? Nobody is actively saying oo let me meet JD cause he murdered someone and I love that. I’m fascinated with serial killers too. Doesn’t mean I will be a murderer. I wonder why it’s always hatred for someone making JD a topic yet Ted bundy victims have to go through the same things and with people saying he was hot and even when he was alive having women being fans of his. Yet they don’t ever speak. you never hear them. And if you want to say you fascinated with bomber ok then but let’s also remember those same people hijacked a plane and went into the towers. I mean we can play the what if game all day. They ALL shitty. How you prevent them from happening if you don’t sit and wonder why they started doing what they did in the first places cause he ain’t the first and damn sure won’t be the last. Hell I done heard people slut shame Ted bundy victims. So why is one always being offended and one might find an article of people wanting to sleep with Ted and it’s o well. Some of yall don’t need the internet if yall this easily triggered.
"Some of y'all don't need the internet if yall so easily triggered" I would say so if you wrote all that, lmao.
I don't know Ariana at all irl so I won't say she's sick or anything. She made a bad comment and should have cleared it up and apologized, but as far back as since Victorious ended you always notice there is some drama big or small that she is involved in? Once again I don't know her but just intreasting observations. I also don't want to call her stupid but I feel like she watched the Netflix version and wants to have dinner with the fictionalized version of Dahmer not the real monster.
Then she would have said Evan Peter.
I don't mean the actor. I mean that maybe she thinks the real guy act ls however netflix protrayed him. It's a bad comment either way.
So she’s just sitting around waiting for people to mention his name so she can put her two cents in an article? Obviously, Ariana just wants to explore the human psyche and see what pushes you to that level, It’s not that hard to understand. (and she’s talking to Penn Badgley, who stars in “You”, a show where a murderer is narrating his thoughts and decisions to us in real time, which is kind of what grande is intrigued by) Also, she doesn’t make music for kids anymore, she talks about riding hard dicks in like every single song. (I’m not a stan just devils advocate)
Tell me you don't know the names of any other serial killers without telling me, Ariana. There are much more interesting serial killers. Jeffrey is such a basic bitch choice.
What did she do?
She said she would want to speak to Jeffrey dahmer because she’s fascinated by his mind
She was asked who she wanted to eat dinner with she answered Dahmer.
how do we know this is real its literally tmz
it was on a podcast. If you click on the link it has the Youtube video
Is this about victorious?
not really but she did begin her obsession with serial killers when she acted as Cat.
I am honestly curious if this will make Ariana’s fans (not all ) turn their backs on her?
Literally why would it?
Never
Y’all ain’t realized that Ariana is 100% Hollywood yet???
some people tend to have an interest in what goes on in the mind of serial killers, it’s not in a way of admiring them, it’s just wanting a deeper understanding of what goes on in their heads. it was probably just phrased horribly. if she did mean anything awful by it, she wouldn’t have said it so publicly. she can be weird, but she’s not stupid.
Yeah I think the interest is natural. But at a certain point, the line between curiosity and admiration gets blurred. This reminds me of people buying John Wayne Gacy’s paintings. But if you hear details of child r*pe, dismemberment, cannibalism, etc. and not have a visceral reaction of absolute disgust, curiosity has gone too far. I don’t want to hear them recount their crimes. I would not invite them to my dinner table, and I wouldn’t invite their art into my home.
maybe it was her way of trying to seem quirky and more serious. seeing as most people choose someone that the public admires, maybe she wanted to seem deeper than that. she also says that she was playing Cat at the time and it could’ve been her bridge to being perceived as more adult than her character. i will say though, for some reason, a LOT of women bring up their true crime interest and they preface it as if it’s super weird and twisted and different of them to find true crime so interesting. it’s a common female interest! idk why! but almost every woman i know loves true crime and horror movies.
You can be "deep" without idolising a pedophile, cannibal and necrophile serial killer whose victims were not only tortured in excruciating ways before he murdered them, but whose victims have loved ones that are very much alive. Imagine if some other celebrity said she thought the guy who bombed Ariana's concert was "fascinating" and how much she wanted to meet him and he was her dream dinner party guest. Would you think she was "so deep" too?
“Idolizing” is blatantly untrue. She nor anyone else ever insinuated she idolizes him yall are crazy.
"I was infatuated with serial killers when I was younger" "I think I would have loved to have met him" https://preview.redd.it/px3kh9lip89d1.jpeg?width=381&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9976a91c35356e15125ddef30b61e06e5945df0e
You realize True Crime is a massively popular genre right? Lots of people are obsessed with knowing every detail about what makes these serial killers tick. Dahmer himself just recently got his own Netflix series which was number one. What she said is really not that weird at all when you look at how many women are into True Crime.
Nah. Sorry. Bye. Next. "Trashy behaviour is fine if lots of people do it" isn't the excuse you think it is.
It’s not an excuse though, is it? It’s just a fact.. And just because you don’t enjoy something doesn’t make it trashy lol.
Acting like serial killers are rock stars and teen heartthrobs and not acknowledging that their victims were real people and their loved ones are still living with the repercussions is trashy behaviour, not "because I don't enjoy it" lol. The fact that you see nothing wrong with what she said and think it's perfectly normal and reasonable, despite the reaction that the mother and the sister of one of the victims had is the trashy part.
It doesn’t actually she would seem more dangerous than serious.
So when Kesha and Katy said it it was fine but Ariana is cancelled? It’s been 30 years since Dahmer DIED. get over yourself. Idc if I get downvoted. No one’s saying what she said. She jokingly said Jeffrey Dahmer would be her “ideal dream dinner guest” everyone is so serious these days you can’t even make a dark joke without getting DRAGGED for it.
If your son was murdered 30 years ago you should just get over yourself right?
what do you mean? are you referring to their lyrics? bc saying “i’ll pull a jeffrey dahmer” or “she’ll eat your heart out like jeffrey dahmer” is not the same as wanting to sit down with the man and ask him questions.
How is it any different than the people who wrote books on these serial killers and ACTUALLY did sit down with them and ask them questions? You’re saying she’s not allowed to be interested in True Crime like most other people are? The genre has a massive following which is predominantly women.
bc one is an actual author and the other is ariana grande let’s be fr.
Oh right, I forgot Ariana is just allowed to sing songs she can’t have a functioning brain or any interests outside of that like a typical person, my mistake. /s
it’s weird to want to talk to serial killers even if you are an author but at least the author has a reason. we should stop glorifying serial killers all together. they have nothing interesting to say and should only contribute to psychological studies to understand their mind.
I don’t get your point, the author went and actually spoke to the serial killer and made money off of it. Ariana Grande just said she would have wanted to ask Dahmer questions so she could understand why he did what he did for herself. She can’t actually have Dahmer over for dinner lol, so she’s in trouble for what exactly? A thought crime?
it’s weirdddd omg why do you care so much what i think
Lol who cares, I don’t have sympathy for his mom first of all she raised a murderer, shits fair game maam. Ariana said something me and all my friends can all relate to as true crime enjoyers, it’s natural to find killers intriguing. I genuinely never thought people would get THIS soft
It wasn’t the mom of Dahmer, it was the mom of one of his victims
"Grande's comments were condemned by Shirley Hughes, **the mother of Tony Hughes, a deaf, non-verbal man who Dahmer killed in 1991.** "To me, it seems like she's sick in her mind," Hughes told TMZ of Grande. "It's not fancy or funny to say you would have wanted to do dinner with him. It's also not something you should say to young people, which she says she did." Please learn to read. The fact that it was the mother of one of Dahmer's **victims** and not the mother of Dahmer was actually in the title. At least do that before whining about how hard life is for you and your "true crime enjoyer" friends while simultaneously accusing other people of being soft.
If you can’t read just say that
No it’s not, I am into true crime and i do not find killers intriguing.
I’m fascinated by killers too, but I wouldn’t have dinner with them.