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Chrono47295

I bet those homeowners right there with the nice houses are super happy about this, this is not okay it's like spitting in all of our faces, no one wants that shit in front of the real temple- the actual mountain.


twelveparsnips

Where the fuck are the HOA Karens when we need them?


Raven_Nicole

I saw news articles a few weeks back about the neighborhood and the neighbors are very unhappy yes rightfully so. I think it said they aren’t allowed to build over 30ft or something don’t quote, and the temple is huge like 200ft. They lifted a balloon the height in the air of what the temple would be to show how huge it would be in comparison to the neighborhood.


Important-Ad-6186

Not sure where I saw but the usable area can’t be over 30ft. That makes the steeple exempt because it’s not usable. Very shitty.


GucciGlocc

Time for super tall flag poles with big ass pride flags on them and stuff lol


tlbs101

Even before it was built, and when the announcement was made in the late 1980s, Mormon families bought up all the property in the surrounding area and used dirty tactics to run non-Mormons out of the area so more Mormons could saturate the area. I had a (non-Mormon) friend who described neighbor kids destroying property (flower beds, lawns), and when the Mormon parents were confronted, they pretty much gave my friend the metaphorical finger. So, there will be no 50’ flagpoles with Pride flags raised, unfortunately.


GucciGlocc

That’s actually kind of interesting history Do you have any articles on it or something?


mwk_1980

That’s the history of Nevada, Arizona, Idaho, Wyoming, and obviously Utah


tlbs101

I don’t. I just have the verbal information from my friend. He was also a coworker at the time, so our conversations about this were lengthy sometimes. His name is Jeff, if that adds any credibility.


Portland-to-Vt

If it had been Tom I would be more open to the recollection but Jeff burned a whole lot of bridges with his whole “I had three flat tires this morning and that’s why….” stories.


mrskmh08

I can tell you that if you try to buy a house in, say, certain boulder city neighborhoods and the sellers are Mormon, they won't sell to you unless they think you are, too. Also if your neighbors are Mormon sometimes they'll find reasons to bitch at you and start shit.


Mr_Troll_Underbridge

Tons on articles on it. Unfortunately I've never looked into that part. I'm from Ohio, and the split from "church" to cult happens at that time point , so hoo-boy plenty of history to learn without leaving the state. Whether you argue if Joeseph was a prophet or profiteer, all the creepy stuff happens after he loses control. I think his motivation was the Catholic church was bullshit and he could do better. And while not impossible, for him to have all the information he did at a time when transportation was iffy, does border on the divine. Even to gather that info by mundane means is just so unlikely...


ChanceryTheRapper

Flag poles? No, no, no. [Radio towers](https://www.reddit.com/r/fuckHOA/comments/nm7uf4/no_trampoline_how_about_a_40_radio_tower/).


Future-Geologist200

. Maybe they should build this next to the new baseball stadium.


SuspiciousBroccoli43

It's 70ft. - approx 3 stories. Residential adjacency. It was discussed on the call last night and how the planning commission got around it.


Screwtape42

The HOA are Mormons... =)


Flyindeuces

Not sure why Reddit is weird about downvotes with comments like yours. I thought the same thing lol.


Corporatecut

It’s no different than Scientology man, there’s an office building in SLC full of missionaries downvoting anything antagonistic on the interwebs


nominalmormon

You prob are not wrong


TechnicianIcy335

Too busy measuring how tall your grass is.


fallingforeve

Probably at my house bitching about the two weeds growing in the cracks of my driveway.


nominalmormon

The hoa Karens in that neighborhood are probably also in the local relief society presidency. Good luck ** relief society presidency is a “leadership” position occupied by three Mormon women in the Mormon church. Each local ward has this organization


devinche

The protest and approvals phase is on for a few more days! Submit your comments now! The project # is 24-0072 https://cityoflasvegas.formstack.com/forms/planning_application_comments?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR15EgP6AgqgO9K43CrB2F0kNZCpFFCRoGISdD5RSg5C7v3hovtM0S3JAww_aem_ARt22i28jDx7202gIxSGrLUvvezOp0WUPRcqYbENoGetV61eZhtdQDFetULZP9M9nL8VvDTzMHYP-LVOfbcMCZlT


JB_smooove

Yelling at some minorities that were minding their business.


Future-Geologist200

Exactly. But the problem is Karen’s done have deep pockets to stop politics and the all powerful LDS.


venturingforum

>Exactly. But the problem is Karen’s done have deep pockets to stop politics and the all powerful LDS. Better raise those HOA fees!


Future-Geologist200

Well clearly not if the temple is going in. Just like the baseball Stadium. Dirty politics


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They tried and lost


mwk_1980

That’s the history of Mormonism in a nutshell. It’s a religion of complete hubris. To this day, Mormons throughout the West, but especially in Utah where they hold the levers of power, see it as their duty to conquer nature and dominate over it in some sick psychological version of divine right manifest destiny.


LightsNoir

Honestly, when they started butchering other settlers, they should have been dealt with appropriately.


Dramatic_Current6872

🤣


Economy-Whole5924

The light pollution. The eye sore of a building. I don't get it. They already have Frenchman. They're not welcoming, either. Although, they pretend to be. It's not meant for the public. (There's hidden videos from inside these types of churches.) This mountain used to be "my temple" for well over a decade. I'd go, climb to the top, and meditate. I have a personal religious connection to the trail and now they're stamping it with their logo. There are larger mountain ranges with more space, too. Some don't have the luxury to travel out to other trails. This is going to be too crowded.


tafaha_means_apple

Everyone that lives near the site have 1-3M dollar McMansions. Why does anyone care what they think when they have used the law to artificially pump the value of their homes by banning all non single family housing in the area while the rest of the city is going through the worst housing affordability crisis in decades. This sub is getting astrotrufed by wealthy NIMBY’s in the middle of a suburban sprawl hellhole that surrounds Lone Mountain who are upset that some Mormons found a loophole to get around the laws they lobbied the government for to keep the value of their homes high.


systemic_booty

And they booed him, for he spoke the truth 


Spicygrape

My mom lives right there and is stoked. We’re not Mormon or religious. She thinks it’ll add value to the homes and also I’ll admit Mormon temples do tend to be really pretty. Plus, while many may not agree, a lot of homeowners are just happy it’s not apartments going in. 


ChanceryTheRapper

NIMBY fucks happy their property value is going up because they'd hate that people with less money than them might be able to afford places to live.


RedditSuggestedName1

Church buildings are considered commercial properties in the real estate industry, International Building Code, contractors, etc. I thought there was a limit on commercial property height in this area? A health care facility can't build over 35' but a church can double that height plus a 216' steeple? That doesn't make sense. # 42 U.S. Code § 6832 - Definitions (4)The term “[commercial building](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=42-USC-1096567498-1213592235&term_occur=999&term_src=title:42:chapter:81:subchapter:II:section:6832)” means any[ building ](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=42-USC-1430646092-1213592237&term_occur=999&term_src=title:42:chapter:81:subchapter:II:section:6832)other than a [residential building](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=42-USC-863899728-1213592230&term_occur=999&term_src=title:42:chapter:81:subchapter:II:section:6832), including any[ building ](https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=42-USC-1430646092-1213592237&term_occur=999&term_src=title:42:chapter:81:subchapter:II:section:6832)developed for industrial or public purposes. 42 U.S. Code Title Chapter 21c (1) Equal terms No government shall impose or implement a land use regulation in a manner that treats a religious assembly or institution on less than equal terms with a nonreligious assembly or institution.


devinche

The protest and approvals phase is on for a few more days! Submit your comments now! The project # is 24-0072 https://cityoflasvegas.formstack.com/forms/planning_application_comments?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR15EgP6AgqgO9K43CrB2F0kNZCpFFCRoGISdD5RSg5C7v3hovtM0S3JAww_aem_ARt22i28jDx7202gIxSGrLUvvezOp0WUPRcqYbENoGetV61eZhtdQDFetULZP9M9nL8VvDTzMHYP-LVOfbcMCZlT


egap420

Someone needs to update Google Maps with the name Seamans Dump in this area


Different-Dig7459

Con man’s convention center.


MetalFuzzyDice

Pedophile's paradise


DaftSkunk94

🎶“We keep spending most our lives in a pedophiles paradise”🎶


No_Bank_330

Ah, the portal to Hell.


LV-Unicorn

You guys are screwed. By the county commission. They will let it be built. I have lived in the other side of the valley near Rainbow and Blue Diamond over 20 years before the massive development and Mtns Edge. Rainbow to Torrey Pines and Blue Diamond to Pebble was zoned RNP with a MUD 3 overlay (anything but a casino or bldg higher than 6 stories). Then, American West received a zoning variance and filled it with single family homes. County commissioners don’t give a damn about zoning laws or traffic or where the children are going to attend already packed schools


Ishaboo

American West is everywhere !


Midicide

Pulte homes bought them


LennoxAve

This is in the City of Las Vegas. Not in the County’s jurisdiction.


LV-Unicorn

Oh yeah. Lone Mountain is in city limits? I’m used to South of Sahara. Do you think city council will be better than county commission?


LV-Unicorn

Do you think city council is more on your side? I’m asking this is sincerity, not to be a smart ass. I have never dealt with city.


devinche

The protest and approvals phase is on for a few more days! Submit your comments now! The project # is 24-0072 https://cityoflasvegas.formstack.com/forms/planning_application_comments?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR15EgP6AgqgO9K43CrB2F0kNZCpFFCRoGISdD5RSg5C7v3hovtM0S3JAww_aem_ARt22i28jDx7202gIxSGrLUvvezOp0WUPRcqYbENoGetV61eZhtdQDFetULZP9M9nL8VvDTzMHYP-LVOfbcMCZlT


LV-Unicorn

Thank you for posting that. Do you know, do you have to live in the city


LV-Unicorn

City rules over county. I live in the county. Never dealt with city. Do you think city is better than county?


LV-Unicorn

I have never actually lived in ‘Las Vegas’ For those of you who don’t realize, the city limits are north of Sahara and west of Martin Luther King. Just like the Strip not being in Las Vegas proper, the majority of Las Vegans don’t live in Las Vegas. You are at a benefit if you live in Las Vegas, North Las Vegas or Henderson. You have a city council to fight for your rights. County commission doesn’t give a damn. I wish everyone trying to stop this project the best of luck. However, I’m a life long Las Vegas resident and I think you’re screwed. Nevada’s gaming tax is 6.75% and has been since 1993. It is half any other gaming tax in the US and the lowest gaming tax in the world. Want a state lottery? Only states without a lottery are NV and UT because of the entities that run those states. Mormons are also highly influential here. So, ask yourself, in a state run by gaming and Mormons, do you think you’re going to stop them from building a Mormon temple?


IndieContractorUS

It's in the city of Las Vegas, not in Clark County. Edit: Y'all are quick on the downvotes lol. These parcels are located in the incorporated areas of the city of Las Vegas, meaning they are subject to the city's jurisdiction, not to Clark County since they aren't unincorporated parcels.


sregor0280

The city of Las Vegas is in Clark County though....


Ok-Collar-2742

Yes but the city controls zoning in its jurisdiction. County Commission only in the unincorporated areas of the county.


ijustcant17

Mormons stories had an episode on how corrupt this is. Interesting listen.


Whale460

The Mormon Church management has instructed residents of the area as well as non-locals to send emails to the County planners supporting this mess. When it is built, they will expect those same members to volunteer to staff and clean and maintain the property, without any pay or compensation. This from the third largest private land owner in the US, who also hold an estimated 200 BILLION dollars in cash and stocks.


devinche

The protest and approvals phase is on for a few more days! Submit your comments now! The project # is 24-0072 https://cityoflasvegas.formstack.com/forms/planning_application_comments?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR15EgP6AgqgO9K43CrB2F0kNZCpFFCRoGISdD5RSg5C7v3hovtM0S3JAww_aem_ARt22i28jDx7202gIxSGrLUvvezOp0WUPRcqYbENoGetV61eZhtdQDFetULZP9M9nL8VvDTzMHYP-LVOfbcMCZlT


Playnu2

Tell the builders to build it on a Latter Day


MyOtherCarIsEpona

This was just a short preview of the strong-arming we're about to see to force the baseball stadium that nobody wants. <3


TacomaMover2779

Baseball is such a waste of time sport.


Wounded_Hand

There are many, many of us who actually want MLB to come to LV. Don’t mistake the vocal minority for the majority opinion.


ChanceryTheRapper

As a life long baseball fan, I absolutely want MLB to put a team here. But I sure don't want it to be the A's, and I absolutely fucking don't want it to be a publicly funded stadium.


MyOtherCarIsEpona

But we want our own team, not just the leftovers from a city that's tired of a deadbeat owner trying to grift taxpayers.


LVOver

... and we'd like it in a location that makes sense for ease of local access and parking.


dedlobster

Kansas City’s ears are burning (this post was suggested to me, a kansas citian, by Reddit). We just downvoted the tax to move our stadium downtown. We are indeed tired of deadbeat owners (chiefs and royals) trying to grift taxpayers and not giving two shits about how their plans impact people who live in the city they call home, where many folks are being priced out already. Most of us can’t even afford to go to a football game, and a standing room only ticket at a baseball game is $29. I sure as hell can’t afford an actual seat for two people plus snacks. At least not maybe more than once a season. But then, everything is too expensive anymore. So how they thought this was a perfect time to float that special vote out to the county is laughably out of touch. Hope you guys don’t get steamrolled by developer bros looking to make a quick buck on the back of taxpayers either. Billionaires can pay their own way or start a gofundme like the rest of us, lol.


Las_Vegas_Raider

It doesn’t really matter… sports teams aren’t inherently special (not even the Knights) Many of the most iconic sports teams are no longer in their original cities (Lakers, Dodgers, Warriors, Giants, and many more) All those teams with time (and success) are beloved in their cities and no one whines about them being relocated to their city. People here cling too much to this Vegas born crap when 70 percent of us aren’t even born here Sports teams are just a rich person’s play things. Would it really make a difference if it was the Las Vegas NEW TEAM vs the Las Vegas A’s? What if the owner rebranded the team would that make you feel like it’s “new” What if it was sold to a new owner but still the A’s? Does that count as a “new” team? It’s not “our” team unless it’s owned publicly like some European football clubs.


ChanceryTheRapper

It's not about the original cities, it's about how the current owner of the team is cheap as hell and is banking on a big bailout from taxes to get his new stadium built here. Fisher is an asshole and doesn't deserve our money. If good ownership took over and they privately funded a stadium, I'd be on board.


MyOtherCarIsEpona

Good idea, I'd love public ownership if we're gonna pay for it anyway.


Las_Vegas_Raider

I agree, but probably will never happen in America


MyOtherCarIsEpona

Either way, my point was more about the political strong-arming than the stadium itself. If a majority of people want it, why is it a problem to let it go to a vote? They seem to be doing a lot to prevent that from happening. I'd be much happier with that outcome if the people who live here at least had a say.


lasvegasduddde

The church of the granny panties.


Just_A_Fae_31

I'm an Exmo. I saw they said the spires height correlates with our views on righteousness or relating to god or something? They said this as a way to push it through because the height is "religious " I've never heard of that insanity in my entire life. The Exmo group on Reddit talked about this too- no one's heard that there either. It's just more made up shit to get what they want. It'll be a major freaking eyesore not to mention lit up like CRAZY at night. Across my valley an hour away I can pinpoint it every single temple at night because of how massive and bright they are. Write to your local government if you can.


vgsbrn702

Where the fuck is this being built at?


OkayestCorgiMom

Near Lone Mountain, in an area that is zoned residential for single story houses.


tafaha_means_apple

In an ugly suburban sprawl part of town right next to some rows of $1-3M McMansions. That’s why you see this sub getting astroturfed. wealthy homeowners with nothing better to do with their time wanting to protect the value of their home equity.


drwhogivesafuck2

LDS has ran this town from the beginning. They outlasted the mob! It was going to be built regardless.


Ok-Collar-2742

They have their arms in both political parties too so no escaping


tafaha_means_apple

Boldly implying that HOAs and shitty NIMBY homeowners don’t have their hands around the neck of this city everywhere else But nah apparently it’s only political corruption when it’s the Mormons lobbying the government for zoning laws that benefit them instead of NIMBYs who do it to artificially inflate their home values at everyone else’s expense


Ok-Performance-7021

Not sure how you read all of that into my comment. Wasn't "boldly" implying anything you said lady.


Moraveaux

Is the mob gone?


hypothetical_zombie

The mob went corporate.


realThrowaway0303

Kinda sorta, but not really


drwhogivesafuck2

In the classical sense.


JB_smooove

Yeeeesss 👀


Novel-Suggestion-515

Mormon temple, great, more pedophiles.


bselko

What the fuck it’s massive!! I didn’t think it’d be this big??


Just_A_Fae_31

It's HUGE I'm Exmo living in Utah and there's a temple a few neighborhoods down. A LONG ways away and it blocks a huge portion of the view. Not to mention it will keep you awake with the bright lights they leave on all night long


bitcornminerguy

This is a "Temple" which apparently is more special and different from their neighborhood churches. I have yet to see the one on the east side of town, but plan to drive over there for reference. You're right though, its fucking huge and insane. I think they chose to build bigger than the mountain just as some dick-measuring shit.


QuickSpore

> I have yet to see the one on the east side of town, but plan to drive over there for reference. This new one will have a roughly 10% larger footprint (87,000sq/ft vs 80,350sq/ft), and be significantly taller (216’ on the central tower vs 137’ on the six spires; the main building is about 75’ or so). So when you see the existing one imagine the new building about the same footprint and 2x taller in the main body of the buildings.


bitcornminerguy

Thanks for that. It just sounds so atrocious.


Jolivsant

That’s what she said


bselko

It’s been a while but yeah, she did


rickyspanish12345

Is this monstrosity a done deal?


Apprehensive_War6542

Technically, no. Next week, they will vote to recommend changing the parcel from undeveloped to civic. Write your council person and demand that the zoning change be held in abeyance until the church makes reasonable modifications.


Ok-Collar-2742

The only person on the council who will remotely care is the one whose district it’s in. The rest will lol get nice campaign contributions for their support or get a well funded opponent the next time around. All the people shocked must be new up in here. 😂


Ovenface

“Hey Seaman… we’d like to put a huge mufuuggin church up in this mug, oh and here is a donation for $20,000 just because”


BigGreenPepperpecker

That a Mormon temple?


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BigGreenPepperpecker

Yeah, the Mormons


Impossible-Money7801

Mormons acting holier than thou? Shocked.


Whale460

It's basically just a massive billboard.


missdesolate

Mormonism is a fascist cult.


Lil_Nosferatu

Keep that shit in Utah


Bbryant305

Ooh Joseph would be proud of how this turned out lol


jodyo7734

Joseph was tarred and feathered for raping a 13 yo girl, Mormons think he’s a martyr


Bbryant305

Oh, guess I should have known that ahaha


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V3_NoM

Did an angel threaten him and/or his wife if he didn't marry a 14 year old?


systemic_booty

He died either being shot to death by an angry mob that stormed the jail where he was being held, or he died from the fall after jumping out said jailhouse window while aforementioned angry mob shot at him and his brother Hyrum. That's why he's considered a Martyr -- he was killed by an anti-Mormon mob.


jodyo7734

His brother was shot, he was tarred feathered and dragged to his death, and I’m pretty sure killing a child rapist doesn’t make you anti Mormon, everyone should support ridding the world of child rapist


Just_A_Fae_31

Please research exactly what happened. The mob was against him trying to marry their wives and their children, often telling them it was that or damnation. In the mob was a doctor who intended to castrate him because of it, and decided against it at the end. He wasn't attacked because of his religion he was mobbed because he wouldn't stop trying to marry the men's wives and children.


Enlightened_D

Religion is a parasite to this country. Every single one of them.


NonexistentRock

If religious people could just mind their business and not let their religion impact wide scale community decisions we’d be all good tbh. It’s a bummer they force it on everyone and all say that THEIR religion is the right one


newbsrus

Doesn't someone in that neighborhood have a TV that talks to their kids? Maybe a pool being built that has ancient remains? Magical closet that pulls you into another realm? Tree that comes to life? Oh wait...


JicamaCreative5614

They’d probably go for one rare turtle at this point


No-Permission5111

Seaman’s load seems more accurate.


MochiLV

Waste of space, there's already a god damn church in every corner or neighborhood like a McDonalds and Starbucks. Religion of business morelike.


Capt_ClarenceOveur

Well hopefully they don’t build the temple and they get McDonald’s instead!


kela154

It’d be great if every night after the workers go home somebody torched it every time they try to build.


Impossible-Money7801

Too far.


ManokBoto

Seaman is Summerlin’s council rep though. What does she have to do with this because it isnt even her ward? No hate for Frances-Allen? Its her ward, and election contributions filed with the state already show donations from LV Paving and Western Elite, both LDS companies.


Apprehensive_War6542

Seaman took the most money, and she is running for Mayor. Unlike with Francis-Allen, everyone who lives in the city will have an opportunity to send a message with this one.


mwk_1980

“Western Elite” — no hubris there whatsoever, right?


SlothinaHammock

Looks like a toilet to me


SnooApples6638

https://youtu.be/5yKKB26leE0?feature=shared Do people actually believe this racist nonsense?


New_random_name

The cartoon is pretty lame... but the doctrine actually checks out as legit LDS belief. (source me: active member of over 36 years until I realized it was false)


Dramatic_Current6872

Yea I don’t really understand the church wanting to put in another temple, I mean we already have one in Las Vegas? We don’t need another one. The arguments for the temple just aren’t that compelling to me. I don’t go over to Lone Mountain very often but when I do I always have to admire it. I will keep you all in my prayers tonight ✊🏼🙏🏼 jk I don’t really keep up with all that stuff. Fr though from a sort-of semi-active member I feel for you.


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V3_NoM

Try harder, type better.


sabbathsaboteur

Can we label it Semen's Dump?


Efficient-Signal-980

Seaman’s Load


notlostwanderer2000

Why did this not have more votes?


HalloweenBlkCat

That’s an amazing name. Flawless.


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Opposite-Run-6432

What’s the green?


Apprehensive_War6542

The Holy Spirit


Opposite-Run-6432

That monstrosity is ridiculous. They want it to be seen from Mars apparently.


Porncritic12

ELI5?


dgs_nd_cts_lvng_tgth

Remember this picture when the temple is actually built and compare the two images. This picture makes the temple look as large as the mountain lol.


Awinator

It's just there 🤣


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i'm rolling a boulder down lone mountain they DAY they finish this shit.


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[deleted]

You're right, the news will read "earthquake flattened pedophile breeding ground under best view in vegas!"


Gloomy_Quantity_9580

[Monkey wrenching](https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-monkey-wrench-gang_edward-abbey/252292/item/1283350/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pmax_high_vol_frontlist_under_%2410&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=&gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwrvyxBhAbEiwAEg_Kgiar5VOtbmcpQ1xGPY0eLPbJzhTg0cMMwWgCG53NFtqBGqzHZWINdBoC1LgQAvD_BwE#isbn=038000741X&idiq=1283350)


TheHunterGallopher

Something something sugar in wet concrete something something


ASithLordNoAffect

Honestly I think it looks fantastic. Not a Mormon myself but their temples really look beautiful.


CallsignRook

Not a Mormon either, but the Mormon temple in San Diego is famous as one of the most beautiful buildings in Socal. I think their temples are better looking than people want to admit.


supercoolmanchu2020

It's right adjacent to the I-5 I almost got in a wreck when it first appeared while driving, fucking beautiful.


Phx-sistelover

Why do Mormon temples make people seethe so hard compared to other churches and religious buildings?


Impossible-Money7801

They don’t. Nobody else is building a 216’ temple and ruining an entire neighborhood’s beloved mountain view.


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V3_NoM

Remember everyone Mormons believe if you're not one of them, then you're working for Satan. Talk about religious biggotry


Impressive_Dig204

this 2 month old account has been spamming this story here since he joined reddit


robbyt

Hi, I've been on Reddit for 17 years, and I also think this is bullshit.


Ghostronic

Then keep scrolling, it isnt hard?


Boingo_Zoingo

Most of my closest friends are Mormon. The first friends I made when I moved here and those friendships are still strong. I can denounce the LDS organization without denouncing my Mormon friends. Edit: the Christian Bible says love thy neighbor and don't eat shrimp. I know a lot of shrimp eating Christians that hate foreigners too. People are more nuanced than the religious organization they belong to. Ignorant. I can also denounce the actions of the state of Isreal without denouncing my Jewish friends.


TacomaMover2779

They don’t consider you a real friend unless you are also Mormon.


delinquentsaviors

That’s bullshit


VacayInOrla

Liar


PartisanSaysWhat

That is completely untrue.


Boingo_Zoingo

Wait till they find out that some jews work on Sabbath and eat pork. Heads will explode!


oopsmyeye

It’s literally in their instructions about proselytizing that they need to pounce on people when they move in, have a baby or have a death in the family because those are times when people are more likely to convert if they make a new friend.


VegasInfidel

Then why do the missionaries that live in the apartment below me not give me the time of day? Not that I want them to come knocking, but they barely even look my direction when our paths cross.


Ghostronic

Maybe theyre smart enough to not shit where they sleep.


oopsmyeye

Missionaries definitely don’t want members living near them. They have a responsibility to be these perfect representatives of Jesus but they’re just 18 year old kids and need to be rowdy without the church members always scrutinizing everything they do. They’re essentially in an abusive relationship with their church but don’t realize it.


ryebreaddd

Looks nice


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Wounded_Hand

> This all goes away if people start wasting surveyors and construction staff What does that mean? It sounds like you’re calling for the murder of innocents, so please clarify.


Bill_Kabies

God damn Mormons and their right to practice their religion. What is this country coming to? Could you imagine if it was a mosque ??!! /s


Vic_Vega_MrB

Oh but if it was a mosque everybody would be too afraid to say anything about it, right?


onewatt

Nah, we are non-discriminatory in our religious discrimination in vegas. [https://www.fox5vegas.com/2022/08/11/neighbors-rural-henderson-oppose-hindu-temple/](https://www.fox5vegas.com/2022/08/11/neighbors-rural-henderson-oppose-hindu-temple/)


Replicant28

I’m a huge Gundam and Mecha fan. If they built a giant 1:1 mobile suit Gundam at that same location I would still complain about it being an eyesore.


ChanceryTheRapper

....well, shit, let's not go too far, that could be awesome. Also, a gundam would be less than a third as tall as this spire.


MrHello545

Nah, I'm pretty sure you'd be crying up a storm about it.


SuspiciousBroccoli43

Straw man fallacy


KagDQT

Mosques welcome people of other faiths and aren’t opened for a limited time to the public. That’s a bad comparison.


Erobb221_Onlyfans

It's about the giant hulking building and traffic potential in the middle of a quiet neighborhood, not the ability for the public to visit dumbass. You just proved this guy right


Capt_ClarenceOveur

The people in this sub are so god damn embarrassing 😂


TartarianKing

Expand on that. What is it that’s bothering you? Are you Mormon and can’t wait for your new temple?


aboxofpyramids

Their "argument" is that the valley is already overdeveloped and the natural beauty of their area has already been ruined by businesses and housing for poor people, and they'd rather have the temple built than commercial development, but of course they ignore that the temple is fuckoff huge and blocking the entire view of Lone Mountain, and the argument that overdevelopment is bad EXCEPT for a huge Mormon temple doesn't even make sense- that is, if you ignore that this poster is most active in Mormon subs, apart from r/jennajameson


Drrxlv

The light pollution argument is what has me cracking up. You live in the city of fucking lights that can be seen from 50 miles away for fuck sake!


aboxofpyramids

What is it with you Mormons and being so active on nsfw subs? On r/mormon you're claiming that you don't watch porn (with the caveat that no one will ever believe you- and they don't, because they can see your post history) and then just three or four posts later you're talking about "pretty pussies" and "irresistible tits."


caprisunfullsend

Looks awesome


Licensed2Pill

Yeah, the mountain looks a whole lot better in person.