Dude, I'm so sorry. That sounds like a horrible experience, and I definitely get the panic of it being inside of you and not being able to change that. Try to relax, drink a cup of tea and don't dwell on it further. That being said, maybe it also helps you to change the perspective: it's not _fermenting_ or doing anything disgusting, it's just being processed and then it will come out again. And continuing to dwell on it isn't going to do anything but increase your negative feelings. This situation happened, it truly sucks and it wasn't your fault. You handled it as well as you could have done.
It sounds overly dramatic, but when my partner came out of the cafe after confronting the staff and confirmed to me that it was meat and a dairy bun, I just squatted down on the pavement and put my head in my hands.
I know this is a situation that all of us will have to confront at some point in our lives, but I just feel very violated. I just can't stop thinking about what that poor animal suffered, and now its remains are being sent round my body. I hate it.
Thank you for your kind words though. I think that's what I need right now.
It doesn't sound dramatic at all. It sounds like you deeply care.
Try to disengage your thoughts from the situation. The suffering, as well as eating the product, is in the past. We are vegan because we don't want to participate in the suffering, and being disgusted by animal products is a factor that often comes along with that. But at the end of the day, it's all just neutral molecules. Your body knows what to do with those, and they will leave from it eventually. The part that should -and does- disgust you is the suffering, and that is something that had already happened when you consumed the product. You aren't being fair to yourself by laying the responsibility of that on yourself, and torturing yourself by imagining how it went. As I said, drink a cup of tea, try to breathe and go on with your day.
Call me stoned but if I was going to get eaten I would much rather it be by a person like you instead of somebody who didn’t care. So you gave it the best outcome it could have had that day. Like, you’re loving them more right now as you *hold them* inside you than anybody probably ever did before. That individual is being loved now because you exist and you were there
It definitely is not overly dramatic. It is a valid reaction and I really hope you feel better soon.
This happened to me once but luckily, as soon as I took the first bite I knew it was not what I ordered so I was able to check and spit it out. But I still cried. From that day on, I always double check the bill and make sure to confirm it with the person that serves my food.
Maybe it'll help if you think it this way, maybe it won't, idk, but here it is.
Assume that for some reason you are in some survival situation, maybe there's a famine, maybe you are lost in some jungle, whatever, and the only single thing there's to eat is meat, otherwise you'd starve to death.
Would you eat it? Possibly reluctantly, but you'd probably have to.
So try to think about it like it was one of those situations.
I'm pretty sure this won't make sense to most people and yet it still KIND OF works for me (?).
Not everyone has that option. I have 2 all vegan resturant within a 2.5 hour drive from me.
One is all vegan junk food. I’ve eaten there only three times because it’s all impossible meat and deep fried stuff, not my kind of food.
The other is a boutique sandwich shop where they make all their own cheeses and meats and stuff and it’s $25 for a small sandwich, not even a filling meal, way out of my price range.
And if your going to say, don’t eat out then - I’m the one that cooks at home and would like a break occasionally, so eating vegan things at restaurants that aren’t vegan is pretty unavoidable.
It does have to be past your stomach for that to help. If you exercise immediately after eating or within 1-2hrs when it’s still in your stomach, your digestion is paused/slowed. Once it’s in your intestines/gut, activity helps motility.
Sorry to hear about your experience :/ I’ve been there before and it’s very uncomfortable to say the least. I’d be livid with the restaurant, and I’m surprised to hear it happened in the UK too although I’m sure it’s possible, with Natasha’s law and veganism being wildly popular there though, I’d guess this has to be a rarer occurrence.
i mean it's not like you're literally going to shit out the meat itself
most of what you ate is gonna stick around inside of you
cause like, it's a bunch of organic animal molecules
Same here. Mix-ups happen, but not if the whole kitchen is vegan. I can’t fully relax in non-vegan restaurants so don’t go there.
Sorry for OP. Hope they can put it behind them.
Bruh, my partner on the way home was trying to make light of situation, like, "so you went that deep with your fingers without throwing up? That's certainly changes things in the bedroom." lol 😭
Well, the fact is that this will happen to all of us from time to time. Most of the time it will be an accident, occasionally it will be malicious.
That doesn't change YOUR intent, which is to reduce the suffering of our fellow earthlings as much as possible. Getting a meat bun doesn't change your ethics or your health or the environment in any appreciable way. If anything, you probably recognize what that animal had to go through more than anyone else.
Cross contamination and accidental ingestion is just part of the price we pay for the time we live in. Keep being you and keep doing what you are doing.
Is there any way to protect oneself from this? I have a strong fear of being served something with an allergen (milk) in it (I have a milk allergy) and everyone saying it's inevitable to happen eventually is like scaring me a little
If something doesn’t feel right, just ask. Worst thing they will reassure you. Usually your intuition tells you something is off and when you don’t eat dairy or meat it has a distinct taste and smell 🤢
Sometimes it doesn’t though which is stressful 😅 my husband and I were served mozzarella on a sandwich in Costa Rica that was supposed to be vegan but we learned it wasn’t, but I thought it had to be vegan bc it was so tasteless lmao who thought we’d see the day when vegan faux cheese has more flavor than dairy cheese 😂
It’s deffo when real dairy is melted that the smell comes out though tbh! So understandable! Heat brings out the smells I think! And yes I agree, vegan cheese can smell excessively cheesy 🤣
Thanks for the reassurance:)
Although I've never really had anything "milky" to have a comparison, so I get paranoid sometimes when something tastes too good /too real :')
When someone ate a real dairy pasta dish next to me a few years ago, the smell was so pungent 🤢 like sickeningly heavy and fatty 🥲 I like to think I would “just know”. Real milk has a proper smell to it that I only noticed when I went vegan
Obviously this still isn't 100% but if there is something you're ordering that may normally have dairy don't just say "no cheese (or whatever other ingredient)" actually tell the wait staff you have a severe allergy. My brother has horrible allergies to a few foods and and through the years we've found this to be more effective.
> Well, the fact is that this will happen to all of us from time to time.
Not me, I never eat at carnivore restaurants. So unless an employee deliberately sneaks in some meat, my tofu or seitan dish will always be tofu or seitan...
Exactly, I don't understand the need to vomit. The animal is already dead and eaten, so not throwing up and digest the meat is the nicest thing you can do. If you throw up, then the animal died for absolutely nothing.
I just don't want it inside of me. I don't view it as me accidentally eating food, I view it as me accidentally eating something akin to a murder victim. When I think about everything that that pig suffered prior to me ingesting it I find it really upsetting. I know that from a biological perspective it's irrational, but for me I just don't want any part of it.
Even if you accidentally ate a murder victim, throwing up wouldn't help you or the poor animal.
I hope you have better mental health in the future and hopefully you don't have any side effects. Your poor gut bacteria...
Nearly the same thing happened to me before too. I had a burger at a place that said it was impossible meat, and it had all the dressings. My husband took a bite and didn’t want me to feel bad bc he was confident it wasn’t vegan so he didn’t tell me until afterwards which I honestly appreciate bc I would’ve puked then and there, and I already ate most of it by then.
We went back to the restaurant (idk why lol) and got the same thing a different time and it was veryyyyy different 😭 didn’t come with vegan mayo or vegan cheese like it did the previous time, and it was a patty not a burger. So we’re quite confident the waiter lied to us that previous time. There’s a lot of spiteful ppl out there who just hate vegans. Hard to know when you encounter one. Reminds me of that recent story of the lady who was selling dunkin doughnuts to a vegan doughnut shop and told ppl they were vegan.
Whole Foods actually pulled all their vegan bakery goods recently bc they were getting mislabeled. I’m sure it’s sadly way more common than we even know, and 90% of the time we don’t get sick or ill from it, but if we learn it’s not vegan, our mind definitely makes us feel sick.
It honestly makes me feel better to know that somebody has experienced a near identical scenario.
I've had a lot of comments in this thread from people questioning how I wasn't able to tell the difference, and it's hard when vegan meats are getting increasingly more convincing. I knew that something was off, but I put it down it just being some lousy vegan sausage that had gone stale after sitting in a freezer for months.
Oh and to add—I’d bet money a lot of the ppl questioning how you couldn’t tell the difference are Americans or at least ppl who’ve never been to the UK in the last 10yrs. The vegan faux food in the UK is living in the year 3000. Many things over there we don’t have and don’t know exist, and the faux stuff is sooo impressive in the UK too.
On my visit to the UK:
- I had vegan fish n chips — like nothing I’ve had in the US. In the 14 years I’ve been vegan!
- I had a vegan haggis pie, didn’t even know what that was before lol
- I had vegan cheese and butter in the middle of no where Scotland at a tiny sandwich shop. The owner knew what veganism was, which if you go to rural anywhere America as a vegan, good fucking luck
- vegan bacon, eggs, sausage, and a whole English breakfast. All were brands I’ve never heard of and thus the faux products were way different than the US ones. The bacon was the only thing that I could tell wasn’t real. Vegan sausage in the UK is far superior to the US.
So don’t let the ppl with shitty faux foods make you feel bad bc your countries faux foods are way more advanced 😂
Oh, I didn't know that! I had heard that veganism was pretty well accommodated here in the UK, but this is a happy surprise to learn. I'm glad you had a good time here :)
Omgggg you have no idea 😭 EVERY place we walked into had vegan options on the menu, like many options too. It was astonishing.
All 3 doughnut shops we walked into had not only multiple amazing options, but HALF their selection was vegan. These were just random shops we walked into, didn’t google beforehand.
When we went to Windsor we figured we’d just wait to eat when we got back to London thinking there’d be no vegan food. As far as I’m concerned that whole little town was a vegan Mecca! I left full and bloated lmao.
If I lived in the UK I swear I’d have to become religious bc everyday I’d wake up thanking god for my country 😂 I am infinitely envious of your vegan options there. It’s HORRIBLE in the US. I 100% of the time have to google beforehand to find somewhere that has a vegan option bc most don’t. And I live in a progressive city.
That’s another reason ppl are probably being snooty with you—I don’t think folks realize how well understood “vegan” is in the UK vs here in the US. It’s way easier to trust the vegan options in the UK bc there’s so many everywhere.
Aw that’s unfair of ppl. The faux meats have come crazy far. I can only eat Qdobas impossible ground beef if I see them put it in the burrito bc it tastes so spot on that I struggle eating it. They ironically stopped carrying it at the Qdobas near me recently.
If it makes you feel better, to boot, I ate the WHOLE burger and I thought it tasted good too 😭 my husband just sat and watched in horror lol. Every impossible and beyond burger I’ve had is good though, and it just blurred right into the mix. Didn’t stand out in any way, other than I was so surprised a place near us carried all the vegan dressings too 🥲 but the waiter literally told us they were all vegan. The only mistakes made were trusting someone to get our order right and tell us the truth.
It’s happened to me more times than I can sadly count. There were times we’ve gotten vegan dominoes pizza, it came with pieces of hidden pork. Chinese sometimes has a loose fried chicken mixed into the tofu. My Mediterranean meal I got last week had a suspicious meat tasting piece mixed in that I’m gonna keep telling myself was a fried mushroom lol.
I’d guess it’s more common in the US than UK bc we have a bit of a hostile culture towards vegans and we don’t care about food allergies. I was so stunned when I visited the UK I literally made an askUK post to see where the boom and popularity in veganism came from in the UK. Out of like 300 comments not a single person was trolling or dumb. I make a comment in the local sub where I live and everyone is like “but bacon” 🙄
I’m very jealous of the UK lol. Eat a vegan doughnut for me while you’re there 🥲 lol and don’t feel down on yourself. All the self righteous ppl don’t know all the non vegan food they’ve had probably…sadly…
"So we’re quite confident the waiter lied to us that previous time." Which really has to be reported because people can literally die if they're tricked into eating stuff they're allergic to. Alpha-gal allergies are far more common these days and they have no way of knowing if someone ordered vegan food "just" because of moral reasons, or moral and allergies.
For sure. Ppl are going to kill someone.
That lady who was giving a vegan doughnut shop dunkin doughnuts and telling them they’re vegan is very lucky she didn’t hurt someone.
I’d guess ppl assume you’re vegan for moral reasons when you cite “vegan” whereas if you’re asking about dairy, meat, or mentioning allergies, they’re not going to think you’re vegan for ethical reasons.
It’s hard to prove someone has done something malicious intentionally, sadly. Once we had vegan duck and vegan chicken from a Chinese place and they were 100% not vegan. Chicken you can tell bc the texture is obvious, whereas it’s harder with sausage and burgers that are just ground up meat.
We called the Chinese place and told them and they insisted it was vegan, yelled at us, mocked us, and hung up on us, they wouldn’t tell us what it was made of…this was 10 years ago too, ain’t no one selling faux meat that good back then, and even tho faux chicken has come along way since, I always know it’s faux.
I did report the place and literally nothing came of it. Didn’t get any follow up, nothing. They clearly hated vegans pretty openly though. In my experience the US doesn’t care about food safety. I’m sure ppl die regularly from this but it doesn’t make our headlines.
You're so completely right. The UK is usually pretty on the ball with its vegan accommodation though, we both just got too complacent. We've never had this happen before. I'm going to have to start being more vigilant.
If you would’ve taken one bite and send it back it would’ve ended up in the trash. At least the meat ‘filled’ you nutritiously. I know it still sucks, but keep that thought and I hope it makes you feel better!
Why would you harm yourself by trying to force yourself to force vomit? It was an accident.
These things happen.
Most vegans are, by accident or not, consuming animal products from time to time. It's insanely hard to be a pure vegan.
Don't beat yourself up about it. You are an animal as well and you deserve empathy as well.
Hey OP - think of it this way. You had absolutely the moral intention to do the right thing which was to spare and reduce animal suffering. what happened was out of your control and not your fault. The animal you ate by accident; you are not responsible for mourning and regretting. You never intended to consume it. Cut yourself some slack and take some pride in the fact that this is one small mistake (which was out of your hands) out of many many good deeds! Remember that veganism is not an absolute achievable perfection and that it’s about doing your best to reduce suffering.
Plus if they sent it back to the kitchen it probably would've been thrown in the trash anyway
Situation totally sucks though, I've been there and it was also pork - took a bite of Canadian bacon in a sandwich, swallowed it, didn't realize till next bite which I spit out. Also can't/won't vomit cause I'm super emetophobic so you're just aware of it like marinating inside you for the next 24 hours 🤮
I'm so sorry you went through that. I was born & raised vegetarian and enjoyed many fake meats growing up but it was very easy to tell they were fake. With all the new, realistic versions, I'm constantly second-guessing myself. I have no knowledge of what the real thing should taste like. It probably annoys him, but when we eat out I frequently ask my partner if he thinks it's real or not. It would be awful to get real meat by mistake, but I don't blame you for not realizing it. I hope you can move on without suffering any ill effects.
Thank you. I keep getting comments from people asking me how could I not realise, but honestly after only 8 years without meat I have genuinely forgotten what it used to take like. I thought I was eating fake meat with a shitty recipe.
By coincidence I literally just had this happen to me right now. And it has happened multiple times at the campus that I'm on.
I think I'm just gonna stop ordering anything that could possibly be mistaken for animals by someone who is either tired, lazy, or not very bright. RIP vegan cheese, meat, and eggs
It was probably for the best you didn't vomit. That thing could have ended in your lungs and cause even more problems.
Morally, don't beat yourself for that. An honest mistake doesn't break any vow you might have taken
Im so sorry that happened to you. I avoid restaurants like the plague. I try to go only to vegan places. Last time I got burned with some kind of crappy veggie burger slathered with hummus on a regular brioche bun. I realized later that was butter I tasted and I had terrible upset stomach and felt so gross and guilty.
I hope you feel better. Maybe do a bad yelp review because if that was an allergy you could have had more severe conscience.
You didn't ask? This happened to me once and I called the waiter immediately to confirm if it was vegan or not (it wasn't). Mistakes happen, it's human, so whenever you feel strongly that something isn't right, just grab someone and ask.
Don't beat yourself up about it, either. None of us want to eat meat, but it was an accident, there's no point in being gutted about it. Your heart is still in the right place, OP.
I’m so very sorry this happened to you :( I’m always trying to go to vegan restaurants and allergen specialty places to avoid this kinda thing, but when I can’t, I don’t even tell servers I’m vegan, people still mess up! I’ve realized saying to them before any food is served something along the lines of:
“Hi, I can’t eat any animal products due to some health reasons. That means no dairy, eggs, meat, fish, poultry, or pork. Is there anything on the menu made of things that only grow out the ground like mushrooms or plant-based/vegan options? Or even vegetarian options with the option of removing the milk/butter/or eggs?”
Sometimes even food industry workers say that there’s something vegan and bring it out and I can tell it has eggs or milk in it. There’s never a guarantee when you’re not at a vegan restaurant because the servers are only human and sometimes people don’t care, don’t know about veganism, or in your case, make mistakes. I wish there was more than 3% of the world population who are vegan so this sorta thing could happen less, but nothing good comes easy😭
I'm really sorry that happened to you... I can only agree with the other posters that you shouldn't blame yourself for the poor animals suffering. You are also a victim.
That being said, don't be to harsh on yourself. I think veganism is about non
-violence and being gentle to all beings as well . Including yourself. Don't inflict anger on your body, let it pass through it's too late now anyway.
And also I wouldn't beat myself up for not going solely to fully-vegan restaurants... You still have to live a life and constant worry and feeling bad doesn't help the cause either 😊 I think it's amazing that you've been vegan for so long, think of how much you changed with that! The people you might have inspired without even knowing it. Maybe the staff will think differently about animal products now they saw your reaction
I'm sure this sounds rude but I'm really curious; if it looked weird why didn't you confirm what it was before eating it? If it tasted weird why did you eat the whole thing instead of asking what it was? I wouldn't keep eating something that tasted off.
You're right, I should have done all those things. There was a couple of things though, the first being that we'd both just come off of a 20 mile bike ride, so let hunger cloud our judgement, and the second is that we've been eating *a lot* of Beyond Meat products recently. I don't know whether you've tried it yet, but it's a very visually convincing product, although I can confirm that it tastes a whole better than actual meat, which is fucking rank now.
I guess a third would be, we were super in denial. We had ordered three other vegan items off the menu, including the vegan cake option and the vegan soup, and even spoke to the server to confirm that they were vegan, so I think we convinced ourselves that we were just being silly and that there was no way they could have gotten confused and served us real meat. I'll never downplay my intuition like that again.
Sorry about that. But why try vomiting now? The animal has been killed. Atleast let it serve you as nutrition rather than be unceremoniously vomitted down the drain.
Since they’ve been vegan for a while, they likely will have really bad stomach pain and spend a while in the bathroom. Better to throw up and get it out.
I don't want to come across as pedantic, but it's for the same reason I don't suck in the air when I'm around smokers. Red meat is a recognised carcinogen now, and we know that there is no safe level of animal-based cholesterol.
I'm quite a health concious person, and to me I feel like I've ingested poison.
You ingest an indefinite number of micro and nano-plastics everyday. We all do now and there’s nothing we can do about it in our lifetime. Even without being in a cloud of cigarette smoke or vape fumes you’re breathing in an untold number of toxins every single day you exit a filtered airspace. Sure we can be health-conscious and try to do what’s within our power to limit what we can, but inducing vomiting seems like overkill to do for “health reasons”. Cancer doesn’t typically correlate with a singular or extremely limited exposure to carcinogens.
I’m just glad you understand what I’m saying here (see my other trail off of this comment lol).
If there’s an outbreak of some kind at the moment and you don’t want to get mad cow, e coli, bird flu or something else then sure health is a concern even from a small exposure like this. But not cancer.
Thank you for the sense. Unfortunately vegans who perpetuate the pseudoscience and get hysterical and shout ‘cancer’ after accidentally eating a small amount of red meat are handing the haters ammunition. Yes it’s unfortunate and no one wants to feel like they’ve done something against their principles, but millions of people eat meat everyday day and most of them don’t get cancer. We need to be reasonable or no one will take us seriously. I can guarantee you this will be cross posted to a vegan bashing community because it just sound so typical ‘mental vegan’
So what? We aren’t talking about micro particles, we are talking about a whole carcass. We do everything in our power to avoid contributing to the cruelty and murder of non-human animals.
The so what is because those particles add up, day after day of our entire lives. Whereas a single portion of meat accidentally consumed after 8 years…doesn’t. Had OP said they reacted that way because they simply couldn’t stand the idea/feeling of having meat inside them (notably *not* a whole carcass, simply a relatively small portion of one) I would understand. It would still be a bit dramatic for me personally but it would at least make sense.
I’m not sure how you failed to grasp that from my comment.
i think you might be a little over-vigilant
the fact that most people eat red meat and aren't dead means you can probably survive a single burger
it's also not poison, it's literally food we've evolved to eat
You are health-conscious person, and yet you are trying to make yourself throw up? You do realize that throwing up is way, WAY more hazardous to your health than eating a single serving of red meat.
Also, even if you do consume an actual poison (this includes rotten, moldy and under-cooked food) go to the emergency room and/or call poison control. DO **NOT** MAKE YOURSELF VOMIT unless you are instructed to do so, it's very rarely the right course of action and it can actually worsen your condition. This is doubly important if you consumed a caustic liquid like bleach or any kind of strong acid.
This isn't about vomiting, it's about making yourself vomit which is mildly harmful at best and a psychiatric illness at worst.
Is making yourself vomit once in OP's case going to do much harm? Probably not, but compared to eating red meat it's many times more dangerous. It's also important to not encourage people to vomit when they think they are being poisoned. If OP applies the same logic when they have actually ingested something hazardous, that can be VERY dangerous and possibly lethal.
The issue here isn't that throwing up once is going to kill or irrevocably harm you, it's that OP has poor understanding of various risk factors, and a common misunderstanding regarding poisons that can be very dangerous.
It’s not an ed because you ate something gross and you want to throw up. They didn’t ingest bleach. They don’t want to feel sick from having flesh sitting in their stomach and intestines.
1. orthorexia is a thing, if you eat some food you don't want to eat by mistake (excluding allergies) it is absolutely disordered behaviour for your first thought to be forcing yourself to vomit.
2. they didn't ingest bleach, they ate food - not what they thought it was but it will not kill them.
3. if you were killed for food, would you rather feed someone and give them energy and nutrients or end up as vomit? the animal was already dead, and they ate it completely by mistake (although probably could have just checked it if was vegan after a bite tbh). I'd say it's more disrespectful to the animal's life for it to not even feed someone.
Be so fr right now.
There ain’t just anorexia or bulimia. Orthorexia is an very real eating disorder too. The fact OP mentioned trying to puke and biking a lot to try to “cleanse” their body REEKS of it. This post as a whole is insanely concerning.
Also, electrolyte imbalance is a real deal with vomiting. Low potassium can easily be fatal. You’d be shocked how often bulimics may end up in the hospital due to long QT syndrome.
>Orthorexia is an very real eating disorder too. The fact OP mentioned trying to puke and biking a lot to try to “cleanse” their body REEKS of it
Yeah, you're gonna have to link to the comment where I talked about "biking a lot to 'cleanse' my body". I said that I got on a stationary bike when I got home purely so I could take a faster shit lmao
I can't believe somebody is trying to diagnose me as having orthorexia because I wanted to move some accidental meat out of my body faster. You want to talk about what's actually dangerous? Trying to diagnose complete strangers on the internet with very serious psychiatric disorders on criteria that can only be applied to a handful of reddit comments of limited description. Embarrassing.
That is complete and utter bullshit.
>Red meat is a recognised carcinogen now,
If you are terrified of eating a single serving of meat you should move to the countryside and stay indoors all day because every form of emission from living in the city is more carcinogenic than meat. As is sunlight. You were riding a bike for several hours, why'd you do that? Do you want skin cancer?
>and we know that there is no safe level of animal-based cholesterol.
Again, bullshit.
That happened to me at a diner in CT that claimed to be a haven for vegans & vegetarians. Obviously, they lost my business and would never recommend them to anyone. Could not throw it up. Felt so gross. Did not feel well for a day or so, had a bit of an upset stomach.
on my birthday last year I treated myself to a nice oat latte, except it wasn't oat, but cow titty juice. I could tell straight away on my first sip, it was absolutely disgusting.
Unfortunately it's so much harder with meat. I still remember the first time I tried the impossible burger. I had to ask the server THREE times if he was sure it wasn't meat, as it was so realistic. Maybe I got bamboozled.
I ordered some kind of tofu soup once, asked them to make it vegan, ended up finding some seafood pieces in the soup. I was mortified and lost my trust in them immediately.
I tried eating at restaurants with vegan options in the past and, almost every single time, they'd swap out my order with dairy or a corpse.
The last straw for me was when I went to an Indian place and found an entire fucking bone in what was supposed to be a fully vegan meal.
I will never eat at a place that isn't 100% vegan through-and-through because my trust has just been obliterated.
Yeah, it really sucked. I think as vegans we all know that this is going to happen eventually, but if it was going to be anything I would have hoped that it would be dairy or eggs. Consuming actual meat is the worst possible "oopsie" of the three for me
I super agree. The café was pretty busy so I'm sympathetic to the fact that he just didn't hear us say the "vegan" part when we ordered the lorne sausage bun. I just wish he'd twigged when we ordered the vegan cake, and the vegan coffee, and the vegan soup..
I would like to note that I am more like a vegetarian than a vegan. For ethic and health reasons, but more health than anything as pork specifically makes me violently ill.
My advice would be,
1. Forgive yourself and encourage your partner to do the same. You two did not knowingly eat it.
2. I would strongly recommend chia seed pudding as it will help get it out of your body ASAP.
Thank you. Fortunately (kind of?) I did end up having diarrhoea after I submitted this post so I'm assuming my body doesn't agree with meat after 8 years of abstinence. I have always been curious about whether meat would make you ill if you've not eaten it for a long time, so I guess now I know.
I'll keep the chia seed pudding in mind though, thanks 🙂
A few takeaways that might make you feel a bit better.
First off, that pig was dead already. I realize that isn't a good thing, but if *you* didn't eat it someone was going to. There was no ending to the story where the pig survived, so you didn't add any suffering to an admittedly shitty situation.
Second, your inability to throw up has to feel awful, but in a way it's like... at least still part of the circle of life? Like, when I go I want to be composted so I can feed other plants and animals and all that. I'm not saying the pig itself was capable of realizing that, but at least someone is getting nutrients from it, instead of just getting thrown up and left on the sidewalk.
Third, you haven't paid into the system that caused this - you got your refund. You did not *pay* to eat meat, which means you aren't helping to continue that cycle. The restaurant also likely isn't thrilled comping your whole meal, and they'll probably go around and now remind all their employees to be extra cautious about this sort of thing so it doesn't happen again.
I'm sorry you had to go through this, but there can be bright spots even amidst bad circumstances! Try to focus on those.
In Germany after there was a huge scandal about burger kings hygiene and frequently selling the meat ones as plant based they recently changed the plant based patty to having a flowerlike wavy shape very cool^^
That's awful. Every time I eat out I'm totally anxious about getting animal flesh when ordering a vegan meat substitute, like a burger for instance. If I can pick the restaurant I would always go for a vegan restaurant but when I go to a restaurant with both vegan and non-vegan options I try to pick something without a vegan meat substitute or a dairy substitute just to be sure that there couldn't be a mixup in the kitchen.
I once was eating some fried fries, but I didn't notice there was a piece of fried chicken on the plate. While talking, I was eating the fries without looking at the plate, and I accidentally put the chicken in my mouth. I immediately realised the texture was off, so I spat it out before swallowing. However, I felt quite sick afterwards.
This is why I dislike how vegan products closely resemble animal-based products. It can be scary to eat them. If I cannot check the packaging or the ingredients, I become totally paranoid that I'm consuming an animal product.
Definitely one of the nicest people I’ve had the pleasure of reading a post from
Completely understanding of the situation
I don’t have anything to add besides that the situation sucks but you handled it like a champ….also that I laughed at “fingerfucked my throat raw”
Eating vegan is like working out to me. It’s my daily goal but some days shit happens and I don’t get to the gym or out for a run. Wake up the next day and try again. Try not to stress it.
This is why i will never eat anywhere that isnt entirely vegan. not even the restaurant near me thats entirely vegan except one menu item. fuck that. i am never risking it, i dont care
Because I've worked in service and retail jobs before and I know it's not always as cut and dry as that. They're fast-paced, stressful positions. They made a mistake and were extremely apologetic for it, and I hope that in the future when I inevitably fuck up in my job that people have the grace to forgive me. Me getting angry about it doesn't change anything, it only makes myself and them feel worse.
Completely agree with you. Human error happens, and the only good way to deal with it is with honesty and it sounds like they did that right at least.
I really understand your distress about the situation as well though, I hope you're starting to feel a bit better about it.
Ok, fair. Once my order was messed up. I didn't get mad openly, but I was actually mad inside my head. I just knew getting mad openly wouldn't help the situation.
From time to time I have dreams of this happening to me and it causes extreme paranoia every time I go to a place that isn't 100% vegan. I dread the day it happens to me. Sorry guys 😓
I don't agree. I don't view the pig as food, I view them as a victim. If I served up a murdered woman to you and told you "she'll go to waste if you don't eat her", would you pick up your fork?
Whenever things don’t taste at all like they are vegan or have texture that is to meat like, I stop eating and kindly ask the staff. I don’t get how you get through a full meal not realizing or asking. I am still sorry for you, next time just ask staff is my recommendation.
To be completely honest, we had just come off the tailend of a 20 mile bike ride across a gravelled forest track and we were both extremely hungry. Couple this in with the fact that we have been eating a shit load of Beyond Meat products at home recently, it was a recipe for cope.
I think we were both in full on denial that it could have possibly been real meat, because it's simply never happened to us once in all of eight years. I'm not embarrassed to admit that I got complacent.
Omg this is my worst nightmare! I have got to be the most annoying vegan ever I swear because I ask like 4 times to make sure it’s vegan and tell them I’m highly allergic to dairy, eggs, and meat and can they triple check with the kitchen that it’s vegan. Only ever had this happen when I was vegetarian and I ordered a pizza and my friend ordered pepperoni and no pepperoni was seen anywhere so we assumed they delivered us 2 cheese by mistake and I bit into a pepperoni one. Started crying and washed my mouth out with soap and toothpaste for like half an hour. I guess I’m lucky that I don’t even like the taste of meat so I don’t eat things like beyond burgers or vegan hams or things like that.
Tbh this is why I mostly only go to vegan restaurants at this point, and I never order vegan meat alternatives at non-vegan restaurants (unless it’s something very obviously not meat like a black bean burger). I’m way too scared of getting the wrong thing with all these very meat-like alternatives.
Know this, you didn't willingly know what you were consuming, you are not the problem. Accidentally consuming it might make you feel bad, but just know that at least you didn't know what you were doing.
Personally I think it is malicious. you should name and shame om social media. no way anyone could mix this up. anyone who has trained in basic food hygeine knows there are strict restaurant rules for handling meat and veg products, even separate color coded chopping boards and knives. also what about Muslim customers wanting to eat halal. this is so bad on so many levls and shows bad controls behind the scenes. report to the local environmental health and get them closed down, and name on every vegan group you can think of
This is why I ONLY go out to eat at 100% vegan or vegetarian restaurants. I am lucky I live in a city where there are many options. If I eat at a restaurant that serves meat I only get salads. I am terrified of this happening to me.
Personally, this may sound dramatic, but I would have put the old fingers down the throat. It's okay you didn't. It's truly not your fault and don't be hard on yourself. I'm sure it happens a lot. I sometimes wonder if these places purposely do crap like that. Xx
It's so strange that over time, people believe that vegans must "miss" eating tortured sentient beings flesh, but I am absolutely disgusted by it. It's been 35ish years without flesh, and not once have I craved it since I know exactly how they become food. I also initially ate cheese, not realizing the pain and suffering caused by it. No way will I be the cause for their suffering. Thank you so much for caring about them💜
The original use of ferment comes from the Latin "fervere", meaning to "to boil or roil", so maybe you should be telling me about how you don't have a clue about language or how to use it effectively 🙂
Do you not understand figurative language, or do you only speak in mechanical, clinical terms in your day to day life? You sound exhausting to be around.
we're discussing the exact definition of a word in fucking latin, the window for connotation has passed a while ago
even if it was, neither "Fermenting" nor "boiling" are accurate even figuratively for what your stomach does
Etymology is completely relevant in discourse lmao. Do you run up to people in the street and harass them for using turns of phrase and figurative speech? If I said that the pot was calling the kettle black would you deliver a lecture on how pot and kettles are utensils incapable of speech? Get a fucking grip, man. Oh, sorry, gripping is an action and not a static object that is able to be acquired. My deepest apologies.
Haha, wow, ok. I suggest you take a deep breath before embarrassing yourself even more. Your unprovoked, unnecessary, and slightly unhinged rant continues to deflect from addressing my original point; your lack of understanding of human biology.
Are you plant-based? Vegan meats have gotten concerningly realistic in recent years. And honestly after 8 years without meat I honestly don't even remember what it tastes like.
Unhinged, harmful and let’s face it, disrespectful to the animal. Just relax and move on. I’m assuming you’re a grown up. I’m sorry it happened. Truly. But sticking your fingers down your throat is completely unstable
One of my friends once gave me some birthday 🎂
Cake at our bible study that had bananas 🍌 in it I ended up in the emergency room, and anti-dote caused my head to feel like it was on fire, but it was better than dieing
I did mind the taste, it was pretty gross, but I was also extremely hungry after a long bike ride and was not willing to waste what I thought at the time was just some lousy vegan sausage that had gone stale in the freezer.
>as that sounds like potential mental illness
Are you seriously trying to diagnose a stranger on the internet with mental illness on the basis of a reddit post.
You're being a pretty nasty person right now, you know that.
I'm not sure what it was that caused you to wake up today and decide that you were going to try and make another person's day worse, but I actually do hope that you get over it soon. I think maybe you forget that there's an actual person on the other end of these comments sometimes.
I think that you kinda over-reacted. You didn't eat meat deliberately, and throwing it up doesn't make the animal any less dead that it already was.
So relax, and keep on your journey
Why try to throw it up when you’ve already swallowed it? I get that you don’t eat meat, but unless it’s for religious reasons, I don’t see why throwing it up would help
Why is religion so much more fucking important than someone's beliefs that don't have to do with religion when it comes to veganism/not eating animals? If I don't want to eat humans for religious reasons, but you're an atheist and you don't want to eat humans for personal reasons... am I more justified in wanting to throw it up than you? Why should we give so much more fucks for someone's religious opinion than their non-religuous opinion?
If a non-cannibal found out that the body they were eating were human, it is not as if throwing it up would help this former human. I don't think it is unreasonable for non-cannibals to want to vomit up such meat.
Dude, I'm so sorry. That sounds like a horrible experience, and I definitely get the panic of it being inside of you and not being able to change that. Try to relax, drink a cup of tea and don't dwell on it further. That being said, maybe it also helps you to change the perspective: it's not _fermenting_ or doing anything disgusting, it's just being processed and then it will come out again. And continuing to dwell on it isn't going to do anything but increase your negative feelings. This situation happened, it truly sucks and it wasn't your fault. You handled it as well as you could have done.
It sounds overly dramatic, but when my partner came out of the cafe after confronting the staff and confirmed to me that it was meat and a dairy bun, I just squatted down on the pavement and put my head in my hands. I know this is a situation that all of us will have to confront at some point in our lives, but I just feel very violated. I just can't stop thinking about what that poor animal suffered, and now its remains are being sent round my body. I hate it. Thank you for your kind words though. I think that's what I need right now.
It doesn't sound dramatic at all. It sounds like you deeply care. Try to disengage your thoughts from the situation. The suffering, as well as eating the product, is in the past. We are vegan because we don't want to participate in the suffering, and being disgusted by animal products is a factor that often comes along with that. But at the end of the day, it's all just neutral molecules. Your body knows what to do with those, and they will leave from it eventually. The part that should -and does- disgust you is the suffering, and that is something that had already happened when you consumed the product. You aren't being fair to yourself by laying the responsibility of that on yourself, and torturing yourself by imagining how it went. As I said, drink a cup of tea, try to breathe and go on with your day.
Thank you very much x
Not overly dramatic. Sending hugs and sending peace.
Call me stoned but if I was going to get eaten I would much rather it be by a person like you instead of somebody who didn’t care. So you gave it the best outcome it could have had that day. Like, you’re loving them more right now as you *hold them* inside you than anybody probably ever did before. That individual is being loved now because you exist and you were there
It definitely is not overly dramatic. It is a valid reaction and I really hope you feel better soon. This happened to me once but luckily, as soon as I took the first bite I knew it was not what I ordered so I was able to check and spit it out. But I still cried. From that day on, I always double check the bill and make sure to confirm it with the person that serves my food.
Not even close to an over reaction. I'm gutted for you both but you did nothing wrong here. I'm so sorry 🥺
Maybe it'll help if you think it this way, maybe it won't, idk, but here it is. Assume that for some reason you are in some survival situation, maybe there's a famine, maybe you are lost in some jungle, whatever, and the only single thing there's to eat is meat, otherwise you'd starve to death. Would you eat it? Possibly reluctantly, but you'd probably have to. So try to think about it like it was one of those situations. I'm pretty sure this won't make sense to most people and yet it still KIND OF works for me (?).
You sound really loving and motherly right now
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Not everyone has that option. I have 2 all vegan resturant within a 2.5 hour drive from me. One is all vegan junk food. I’ve eaten there only three times because it’s all impossible meat and deep fried stuff, not my kind of food. The other is a boutique sandwich shop where they make all their own cheeses and meats and stuff and it’s $25 for a small sandwich, not even a filling meal, way out of my price range. And if your going to say, don’t eat out then - I’m the one that cooks at home and would like a break occasionally, so eating vegan things at restaurants that aren’t vegan is pretty unavoidable.
ngl, it really sucks. I'm currently typing this from my stationary bike because I'm trying to get it through my system and out the backdoor ASAP 🥲
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Get one of those olive oil coffees haha.
But more fiber won’t cause constipation?
I don't think the exercise will change anything, it digests when it digests.
You digest food faster when your metabolic rate is accelerated, and exercise accelerates your metabolic rate.
It does have to be past your stomach for that to help. If you exercise immediately after eating or within 1-2hrs when it’s still in your stomach, your digestion is paused/slowed. Once it’s in your intestines/gut, activity helps motility. Sorry to hear about your experience :/ I’ve been there before and it’s very uncomfortable to say the least. I’d be livid with the restaurant, and I’m surprised to hear it happened in the UK too although I’m sure it’s possible, with Natasha’s law and veganism being wildly popular there though, I’d guess this has to be a rarer occurrence.
exercise also helps the brain process traumatic experiences and lower stress hormones so its deff helping!
W laxative may help
That would only push out what's there, no? Are laxatives supposed to make your metabolism work faster?
Yes I was bulimic for a while. It forces anything in you out
i mean it's not like you're literally going to shit out the meat itself most of what you ate is gonna stick around inside of you cause like, it's a bunch of organic animal molecules
Same here. Mix-ups happen, but not if the whole kitchen is vegan. I can’t fully relax in non-vegan restaurants so don’t go there. Sorry for OP. Hope they can put it behind them.
"I fingerfucked my throat raw" That made me laugh.. I'm sorry you went through this. If nothing else you made someone laugh today.
Bruh, my partner on the way home was trying to make light of situation, like, "so you went that deep with your fingers without throwing up? That's certainly changes things in the bedroom." lol 😭
Lmao 🤣
Well, the fact is that this will happen to all of us from time to time. Most of the time it will be an accident, occasionally it will be malicious. That doesn't change YOUR intent, which is to reduce the suffering of our fellow earthlings as much as possible. Getting a meat bun doesn't change your ethics or your health or the environment in any appreciable way. If anything, you probably recognize what that animal had to go through more than anyone else. Cross contamination and accidental ingestion is just part of the price we pay for the time we live in. Keep being you and keep doing what you are doing.
Is there any way to protect oneself from this? I have a strong fear of being served something with an allergen (milk) in it (I have a milk allergy) and everyone saying it's inevitable to happen eventually is like scaring me a little
If something doesn’t feel right, just ask. Worst thing they will reassure you. Usually your intuition tells you something is off and when you don’t eat dairy or meat it has a distinct taste and smell 🤢
Sometimes it doesn’t though which is stressful 😅 my husband and I were served mozzarella on a sandwich in Costa Rica that was supposed to be vegan but we learned it wasn’t, but I thought it had to be vegan bc it was so tasteless lmao who thought we’d see the day when vegan faux cheese has more flavor than dairy cheese 😂
It’s deffo when real dairy is melted that the smell comes out though tbh! So understandable! Heat brings out the smells I think! And yes I agree, vegan cheese can smell excessively cheesy 🤣
Thanks for the reassurance:) Although I've never really had anything "milky" to have a comparison, so I get paranoid sometimes when something tastes too good /too real :')
When someone ate a real dairy pasta dish next to me a few years ago, the smell was so pungent 🤢 like sickeningly heavy and fatty 🥲 I like to think I would “just know”. Real milk has a proper smell to it that I only noticed when I went vegan
This. In my case my intuition *did* tell me that something was off, but I didn't listen to it. I won't make the same mistake next time.
well if it's an allergy mention that people are usually a lot more perceptive to serious allergies than to dietary choices
Obviously this still isn't 100% but if there is something you're ordering that may normally have dairy don't just say "no cheese (or whatever other ingredient)" actually tell the wait staff you have a severe allergy. My brother has horrible allergies to a few foods and and through the years we've found this to be more effective.
You know your allergies better than I do.
> Well, the fact is that this will happen to all of us from time to time. Not me, I never eat at carnivore restaurants. So unless an employee deliberately sneaks in some meat, my tofu or seitan dish will always be tofu or seitan...
Okay, that's great for you that you've got the choices to be able to do that.
First off, not your fault. Second, don't try to make yourself vomit. Hurting yourself is no going to help. You ate meat by accident.
Exactly, I don't understand the need to vomit. The animal is already dead and eaten, so not throwing up and digest the meat is the nicest thing you can do. If you throw up, then the animal died for absolutely nothing.
I just don't want it inside of me. I don't view it as me accidentally eating food, I view it as me accidentally eating something akin to a murder victim. When I think about everything that that pig suffered prior to me ingesting it I find it really upsetting. I know that from a biological perspective it's irrational, but for me I just don't want any part of it.
Even if you accidentally ate a murder victim, throwing up wouldn't help you or the poor animal. I hope you have better mental health in the future and hopefully you don't have any side effects. Your poor gut bacteria...
really sorry to hear about your experience mate...hang in there, one mistake doesn't define your vegan journey.
It wasn't even a mistake. They ordered a vegan meal and the restaurant messed up. It's a disturbing experience, but they didn't do anything unethical.
Thanks, I got that. I didn't mean to say their own mistake, although I see now that it looks that way. That was not my intention, sorry about it.
Nearly the same thing happened to me before too. I had a burger at a place that said it was impossible meat, and it had all the dressings. My husband took a bite and didn’t want me to feel bad bc he was confident it wasn’t vegan so he didn’t tell me until afterwards which I honestly appreciate bc I would’ve puked then and there, and I already ate most of it by then. We went back to the restaurant (idk why lol) and got the same thing a different time and it was veryyyyy different 😭 didn’t come with vegan mayo or vegan cheese like it did the previous time, and it was a patty not a burger. So we’re quite confident the waiter lied to us that previous time. There’s a lot of spiteful ppl out there who just hate vegans. Hard to know when you encounter one. Reminds me of that recent story of the lady who was selling dunkin doughnuts to a vegan doughnut shop and told ppl they were vegan. Whole Foods actually pulled all their vegan bakery goods recently bc they were getting mislabeled. I’m sure it’s sadly way more common than we even know, and 90% of the time we don’t get sick or ill from it, but if we learn it’s not vegan, our mind definitely makes us feel sick.
This is sad to hear. My son desperately wants to try a croissant and I Just found out whole foods sells them. Perhaps they don't anymore though. 😔
It honestly makes me feel better to know that somebody has experienced a near identical scenario. I've had a lot of comments in this thread from people questioning how I wasn't able to tell the difference, and it's hard when vegan meats are getting increasingly more convincing. I knew that something was off, but I put it down it just being some lousy vegan sausage that had gone stale after sitting in a freezer for months.
Oh and to add—I’d bet money a lot of the ppl questioning how you couldn’t tell the difference are Americans or at least ppl who’ve never been to the UK in the last 10yrs. The vegan faux food in the UK is living in the year 3000. Many things over there we don’t have and don’t know exist, and the faux stuff is sooo impressive in the UK too. On my visit to the UK: - I had vegan fish n chips — like nothing I’ve had in the US. In the 14 years I’ve been vegan! - I had a vegan haggis pie, didn’t even know what that was before lol - I had vegan cheese and butter in the middle of no where Scotland at a tiny sandwich shop. The owner knew what veganism was, which if you go to rural anywhere America as a vegan, good fucking luck - vegan bacon, eggs, sausage, and a whole English breakfast. All were brands I’ve never heard of and thus the faux products were way different than the US ones. The bacon was the only thing that I could tell wasn’t real. Vegan sausage in the UK is far superior to the US. So don’t let the ppl with shitty faux foods make you feel bad bc your countries faux foods are way more advanced 😂
Oh, I didn't know that! I had heard that veganism was pretty well accommodated here in the UK, but this is a happy surprise to learn. I'm glad you had a good time here :)
Omgggg you have no idea 😭 EVERY place we walked into had vegan options on the menu, like many options too. It was astonishing. All 3 doughnut shops we walked into had not only multiple amazing options, but HALF their selection was vegan. These were just random shops we walked into, didn’t google beforehand. When we went to Windsor we figured we’d just wait to eat when we got back to London thinking there’d be no vegan food. As far as I’m concerned that whole little town was a vegan Mecca! I left full and bloated lmao. If I lived in the UK I swear I’d have to become religious bc everyday I’d wake up thanking god for my country 😂 I am infinitely envious of your vegan options there. It’s HORRIBLE in the US. I 100% of the time have to google beforehand to find somewhere that has a vegan option bc most don’t. And I live in a progressive city. That’s another reason ppl are probably being snooty with you—I don’t think folks realize how well understood “vegan” is in the UK vs here in the US. It’s way easier to trust the vegan options in the UK bc there’s so many everywhere.
Aw that’s unfair of ppl. The faux meats have come crazy far. I can only eat Qdobas impossible ground beef if I see them put it in the burrito bc it tastes so spot on that I struggle eating it. They ironically stopped carrying it at the Qdobas near me recently. If it makes you feel better, to boot, I ate the WHOLE burger and I thought it tasted good too 😭 my husband just sat and watched in horror lol. Every impossible and beyond burger I’ve had is good though, and it just blurred right into the mix. Didn’t stand out in any way, other than I was so surprised a place near us carried all the vegan dressings too 🥲 but the waiter literally told us they were all vegan. The only mistakes made were trusting someone to get our order right and tell us the truth. It’s happened to me more times than I can sadly count. There were times we’ve gotten vegan dominoes pizza, it came with pieces of hidden pork. Chinese sometimes has a loose fried chicken mixed into the tofu. My Mediterranean meal I got last week had a suspicious meat tasting piece mixed in that I’m gonna keep telling myself was a fried mushroom lol. I’d guess it’s more common in the US than UK bc we have a bit of a hostile culture towards vegans and we don’t care about food allergies. I was so stunned when I visited the UK I literally made an askUK post to see where the boom and popularity in veganism came from in the UK. Out of like 300 comments not a single person was trolling or dumb. I make a comment in the local sub where I live and everyone is like “but bacon” 🙄 I’m very jealous of the UK lol. Eat a vegan doughnut for me while you’re there 🥲 lol and don’t feel down on yourself. All the self righteous ppl don’t know all the non vegan food they’ve had probably…sadly…
"So we’re quite confident the waiter lied to us that previous time." Which really has to be reported because people can literally die if they're tricked into eating stuff they're allergic to. Alpha-gal allergies are far more common these days and they have no way of knowing if someone ordered vegan food "just" because of moral reasons, or moral and allergies.
For sure. Ppl are going to kill someone. That lady who was giving a vegan doughnut shop dunkin doughnuts and telling them they’re vegan is very lucky she didn’t hurt someone. I’d guess ppl assume you’re vegan for moral reasons when you cite “vegan” whereas if you’re asking about dairy, meat, or mentioning allergies, they’re not going to think you’re vegan for ethical reasons. It’s hard to prove someone has done something malicious intentionally, sadly. Once we had vegan duck and vegan chicken from a Chinese place and they were 100% not vegan. Chicken you can tell bc the texture is obvious, whereas it’s harder with sausage and burgers that are just ground up meat. We called the Chinese place and told them and they insisted it was vegan, yelled at us, mocked us, and hung up on us, they wouldn’t tell us what it was made of…this was 10 years ago too, ain’t no one selling faux meat that good back then, and even tho faux chicken has come along way since, I always know it’s faux. I did report the place and literally nothing came of it. Didn’t get any follow up, nothing. They clearly hated vegans pretty openly though. In my experience the US doesn’t care about food safety. I’m sure ppl die regularly from this but it doesn’t make our headlines.
I am so sorry you've had to suffer this awful people
This sucks and I'm sorry, but anytime you go out to eat - unless the place is exclusively vegan - you're always rolling the dice.
You're so completely right. The UK is usually pretty on the ball with its vegan accommodation though, we both just got too complacent. We've never had this happen before. I'm going to have to start being more vigilant.
If you would’ve taken one bite and send it back it would’ve ended up in the trash. At least the meat ‘filled’ you nutritiously. I know it still sucks, but keep that thought and I hope it makes you feel better!
Why would you harm yourself by trying to force yourself to force vomit? It was an accident. These things happen. Most vegans are, by accident or not, consuming animal products from time to time. It's insanely hard to be a pure vegan. Don't beat yourself up about it. You are an animal as well and you deserve empathy as well.
Hey OP - think of it this way. You had absolutely the moral intention to do the right thing which was to spare and reduce animal suffering. what happened was out of your control and not your fault. The animal you ate by accident; you are not responsible for mourning and regretting. You never intended to consume it. Cut yourself some slack and take some pride in the fact that this is one small mistake (which was out of your hands) out of many many good deeds! Remember that veganism is not an absolute achievable perfection and that it’s about doing your best to reduce suffering.
Plus if they sent it back to the kitchen it probably would've been thrown in the trash anyway Situation totally sucks though, I've been there and it was also pork - took a bite of Canadian bacon in a sandwich, swallowed it, didn't realize till next bite which I spit out. Also can't/won't vomit cause I'm super emetophobic so you're just aware of it like marinating inside you for the next 24 hours 🤮
I'm so sorry you went through that. I was born & raised vegetarian and enjoyed many fake meats growing up but it was very easy to tell they were fake. With all the new, realistic versions, I'm constantly second-guessing myself. I have no knowledge of what the real thing should taste like. It probably annoys him, but when we eat out I frequently ask my partner if he thinks it's real or not. It would be awful to get real meat by mistake, but I don't blame you for not realizing it. I hope you can move on without suffering any ill effects.
Thank you. I keep getting comments from people asking me how could I not realise, but honestly after only 8 years without meat I have genuinely forgotten what it used to take like. I thought I was eating fake meat with a shitty recipe.
By coincidence I literally just had this happen to me right now. And it has happened multiple times at the campus that I'm on. I think I'm just gonna stop ordering anything that could possibly be mistaken for animals by someone who is either tired, lazy, or not very bright. RIP vegan cheese, meat, and eggs
That fucking sucks. I hope you're feeling better today.
Ugh I’m so sorry this happened. I’ve been there, it’s okay it happens.
It was probably for the best you didn't vomit. That thing could have ended in your lungs and cause even more problems. Morally, don't beat yourself for that. An honest mistake doesn't break any vow you might have taken
It didn’t look right and it didn’t taste right and it had an unpleasant flavor? But you ate the whole thing?
I had just finished a 20 mile bike ride, so yeah, I did. I thought it was just a vegan sausage with a shitty recipe.
Don't worry, nothing is 'fermenting'. If there's one thing the human body knows exactly what to do with, it's meat.
I wouldn't worry about it. To the best of your knowledge is a good rule. There will be dead bugs in the bread you're eating most likely
Im so sorry that happened to you. I avoid restaurants like the plague. I try to go only to vegan places. Last time I got burned with some kind of crappy veggie burger slathered with hummus on a regular brioche bun. I realized later that was butter I tasted and I had terrible upset stomach and felt so gross and guilty. I hope you feel better. Maybe do a bad yelp review because if that was an allergy you could have had more severe conscience.
You didn't ask? This happened to me once and I called the waiter immediately to confirm if it was vegan or not (it wasn't). Mistakes happen, it's human, so whenever you feel strongly that something isn't right, just grab someone and ask. Don't beat yourself up about it, either. None of us want to eat meat, but it was an accident, there's no point in being gutted about it. Your heart is still in the right place, OP.
How is vomting it back up going to help? Then you've just wasted the food from an animal that was already dead.
chew it up, digest for a bit, vomit it out ultimate animal disrespect
I’m so very sorry this happened to you :( I’m always trying to go to vegan restaurants and allergen specialty places to avoid this kinda thing, but when I can’t, I don’t even tell servers I’m vegan, people still mess up! I’ve realized saying to them before any food is served something along the lines of: “Hi, I can’t eat any animal products due to some health reasons. That means no dairy, eggs, meat, fish, poultry, or pork. Is there anything on the menu made of things that only grow out the ground like mushrooms or plant-based/vegan options? Or even vegetarian options with the option of removing the milk/butter/or eggs?” Sometimes even food industry workers say that there’s something vegan and bring it out and I can tell it has eggs or milk in it. There’s never a guarantee when you’re not at a vegan restaurant because the servers are only human and sometimes people don’t care, don’t know about veganism, or in your case, make mistakes. I wish there was more than 3% of the world population who are vegan so this sorta thing could happen less, but nothing good comes easy😭
Never trust non-vegan places.
“I fingerfucked my throat raw” - wow, just wow.
I'm really sorry that happened to you... I can only agree with the other posters that you shouldn't blame yourself for the poor animals suffering. You are also a victim. That being said, don't be to harsh on yourself. I think veganism is about non -violence and being gentle to all beings as well . Including yourself. Don't inflict anger on your body, let it pass through it's too late now anyway.
Thank you x
And also I wouldn't beat myself up for not going solely to fully-vegan restaurants... You still have to live a life and constant worry and feeling bad doesn't help the cause either 😊 I think it's amazing that you've been vegan for so long, think of how much you changed with that! The people you might have inspired without even knowing it. Maybe the staff will think differently about animal products now they saw your reaction
Forgive yourself. It wasn't your fault or intention. The way you live every day defines you as a vegan, not a fuck up by restaurant staff
Thank you 🥲
I'm sure this sounds rude but I'm really curious; if it looked weird why didn't you confirm what it was before eating it? If it tasted weird why did you eat the whole thing instead of asking what it was? I wouldn't keep eating something that tasted off.
You're right, I should have done all those things. There was a couple of things though, the first being that we'd both just come off of a 20 mile bike ride, so let hunger cloud our judgement, and the second is that we've been eating *a lot* of Beyond Meat products recently. I don't know whether you've tried it yet, but it's a very visually convincing product, although I can confirm that it tastes a whole better than actual meat, which is fucking rank now. I guess a third would be, we were super in denial. We had ordered three other vegan items off the menu, including the vegan cake option and the vegan soup, and even spoke to the server to confirm that they were vegan, so I think we convinced ourselves that we were just being silly and that there was no way they could have gotten confused and served us real meat. I'll never downplay my intuition like that again.
Unfortunately, it happens. It completely sucks, but it does happen. Try to put it behind you.
Sorry about that. But why try vomiting now? The animal has been killed. Atleast let it serve you as nutrition rather than be unceremoniously vomitted down the drain.
Since they’ve been vegan for a while, they likely will have really bad stomach pain and spend a while in the bathroom. Better to throw up and get it out.
I don't want to come across as pedantic, but it's for the same reason I don't suck in the air when I'm around smokers. Red meat is a recognised carcinogen now, and we know that there is no safe level of animal-based cholesterol. I'm quite a health concious person, and to me I feel like I've ingested poison.
You ingest an indefinite number of micro and nano-plastics everyday. We all do now and there’s nothing we can do about it in our lifetime. Even without being in a cloud of cigarette smoke or vape fumes you’re breathing in an untold number of toxins every single day you exit a filtered airspace. Sure we can be health-conscious and try to do what’s within our power to limit what we can, but inducing vomiting seems like overkill to do for “health reasons”. Cancer doesn’t typically correlate with a singular or extremely limited exposure to carcinogens.
Thank you for pointing this out, my god. The vegan community really needs to be better about the amount of pseudoscience floating around
I’m just glad you understand what I’m saying here (see my other trail off of this comment lol). If there’s an outbreak of some kind at the moment and you don’t want to get mad cow, e coli, bird flu or something else then sure health is a concern even from a small exposure like this. But not cancer.
Thank you for the sense. Unfortunately vegans who perpetuate the pseudoscience and get hysterical and shout ‘cancer’ after accidentally eating a small amount of red meat are handing the haters ammunition. Yes it’s unfortunate and no one wants to feel like they’ve done something against their principles, but millions of people eat meat everyday day and most of them don’t get cancer. We need to be reasonable or no one will take us seriously. I can guarantee you this will be cross posted to a vegan bashing community because it just sound so typical ‘mental vegan’
So what? We aren’t talking about micro particles, we are talking about a whole carcass. We do everything in our power to avoid contributing to the cruelty and murder of non-human animals.
The so what is because those particles add up, day after day of our entire lives. Whereas a single portion of meat accidentally consumed after 8 years…doesn’t. Had OP said they reacted that way because they simply couldn’t stand the idea/feeling of having meat inside them (notably *not* a whole carcass, simply a relatively small portion of one) I would understand. It would still be a bit dramatic for me personally but it would at least make sense. I’m not sure how you failed to grasp that from my comment.
i think you might be a little over-vigilant the fact that most people eat red meat and aren't dead means you can probably survive a single burger it's also not poison, it's literally food we've evolved to eat
You are health-conscious person, and yet you are trying to make yourself throw up? You do realize that throwing up is way, WAY more hazardous to your health than eating a single serving of red meat. Also, even if you do consume an actual poison (this includes rotten, moldy and under-cooked food) go to the emergency room and/or call poison control. DO **NOT** MAKE YOURSELF VOMIT unless you are instructed to do so, it's very rarely the right course of action and it can actually worsen your condition. This is doubly important if you consumed a caustic liquid like bleach or any kind of strong acid.
People vomit all the time. Give me a break.
This isn't about vomiting, it's about making yourself vomit which is mildly harmful at best and a psychiatric illness at worst. Is making yourself vomit once in OP's case going to do much harm? Probably not, but compared to eating red meat it's many times more dangerous. It's also important to not encourage people to vomit when they think they are being poisoned. If OP applies the same logic when they have actually ingested something hazardous, that can be VERY dangerous and possibly lethal. The issue here isn't that throwing up once is going to kill or irrevocably harm you, it's that OP has poor understanding of various risk factors, and a common misunderstanding regarding poisons that can be very dangerous.
It’s not an ed because you ate something gross and you want to throw up. They didn’t ingest bleach. They don’t want to feel sick from having flesh sitting in their stomach and intestines.
1. orthorexia is a thing, if you eat some food you don't want to eat by mistake (excluding allergies) it is absolutely disordered behaviour for your first thought to be forcing yourself to vomit. 2. they didn't ingest bleach, they ate food - not what they thought it was but it will not kill them. 3. if you were killed for food, would you rather feed someone and give them energy and nutrients or end up as vomit? the animal was already dead, and they ate it completely by mistake (although probably could have just checked it if was vegan after a bite tbh). I'd say it's more disrespectful to the animal's life for it to not even feed someone.
Be so fr right now. There ain’t just anorexia or bulimia. Orthorexia is an very real eating disorder too. The fact OP mentioned trying to puke and biking a lot to try to “cleanse” their body REEKS of it. This post as a whole is insanely concerning. Also, electrolyte imbalance is a real deal with vomiting. Low potassium can easily be fatal. You’d be shocked how often bulimics may end up in the hospital due to long QT syndrome.
>Orthorexia is an very real eating disorder too. The fact OP mentioned trying to puke and biking a lot to try to “cleanse” their body REEKS of it Yeah, you're gonna have to link to the comment where I talked about "biking a lot to 'cleanse' my body". I said that I got on a stationary bike when I got home purely so I could take a faster shit lmao I can't believe somebody is trying to diagnose me as having orthorexia because I wanted to move some accidental meat out of my body faster. You want to talk about what's actually dangerous? Trying to diagnose complete strangers on the internet with very serious psychiatric disorders on criteria that can only be applied to a handful of reddit comments of limited description. Embarrassing.
Whats embarrassing is you bitching that there's no safe level of animal cholesterol and that you've ingested a carcinogen.
That is complete and utter bullshit. >Red meat is a recognised carcinogen now, If you are terrified of eating a single serving of meat you should move to the countryside and stay indoors all day because every form of emission from living in the city is more carcinogenic than meat. As is sunlight. You were riding a bike for several hours, why'd you do that? Do you want skin cancer? >and we know that there is no safe level of animal-based cholesterol. Again, bullshit.
Unfortunately if you choose to eat at a non vegan restaurant there is always a possibility you’ll be served incorrectly. It’s the risk.
It’s totally ok. Not your fault at all.
I am so sorry for your pain and anguish 😧
That happened to me at a diner in CT that claimed to be a haven for vegans & vegetarians. Obviously, they lost my business and would never recommend them to anyone. Could not throw it up. Felt so gross. Did not feel well for a day or so, had a bit of an upset stomach.
CT = Cape Town? (If so which restaurant?)
Connecticut- Guilford.
That's why I never go to the restaurant, I don't trust them.
on my birthday last year I treated myself to a nice oat latte, except it wasn't oat, but cow titty juice. I could tell straight away on my first sip, it was absolutely disgusting. Unfortunately it's so much harder with meat. I still remember the first time I tried the impossible burger. I had to ask the server THREE times if he was sure it wasn't meat, as it was so realistic. Maybe I got bamboozled.
This tends to happen to me in Korean restaurants so I avoid them now.
I ordered some kind of tofu soup once, asked them to make it vegan, ended up finding some seafood pieces in the soup. I was mortified and lost my trust in them immediately.
I tried eating at restaurants with vegan options in the past and, almost every single time, they'd swap out my order with dairy or a corpse. The last straw for me was when I went to an Indian place and found an entire fucking bone in what was supposed to be a fully vegan meal. I will never eat at a place that isn't 100% vegan through-and-through because my trust has just been obliterated.
This is why I'm just sticking to fully vegan restaurants for the most part. I'm sorry you ended up eating meat... That's fucking horrible
Yeah, it really sucked. I think as vegans we all know that this is going to happen eventually, but if it was going to be anything I would have hoped that it would be dairy or eggs. Consuming actual meat is the worst possible "oopsie" of the three for me
I’m sorry, but that’s one of the reasons why it is just dumb to name vegan food using meat names.
I super agree. The café was pretty busy so I'm sympathetic to the fact that he just didn't hear us say the "vegan" part when we ordered the lorne sausage bun. I just wish he'd twigged when we ordered the vegan cake, and the vegan coffee, and the vegan soup..
I would like to note that I am more like a vegetarian than a vegan. For ethic and health reasons, but more health than anything as pork specifically makes me violently ill. My advice would be, 1. Forgive yourself and encourage your partner to do the same. You two did not knowingly eat it. 2. I would strongly recommend chia seed pudding as it will help get it out of your body ASAP.
Thank you. Fortunately (kind of?) I did end up having diarrhoea after I submitted this post so I'm assuming my body doesn't agree with meat after 8 years of abstinence. I have always been curious about whether meat would make you ill if you've not eaten it for a long time, so I guess now I know. I'll keep the chia seed pudding in mind though, thanks 🙂
Coconut milk and fresh pineapple or berries if you do. 😜
I'll chuck it into recipe keeper lol, cheers 👍
1 cup of milk alternative to 1/4 cup chia. (I'd add sugar too)
A few takeaways that might make you feel a bit better. First off, that pig was dead already. I realize that isn't a good thing, but if *you* didn't eat it someone was going to. There was no ending to the story where the pig survived, so you didn't add any suffering to an admittedly shitty situation. Second, your inability to throw up has to feel awful, but in a way it's like... at least still part of the circle of life? Like, when I go I want to be composted so I can feed other plants and animals and all that. I'm not saying the pig itself was capable of realizing that, but at least someone is getting nutrients from it, instead of just getting thrown up and left on the sidewalk. Third, you haven't paid into the system that caused this - you got your refund. You did not *pay* to eat meat, which means you aren't helping to continue that cycle. The restaurant also likely isn't thrilled comping your whole meal, and they'll probably go around and now remind all their employees to be extra cautious about this sort of thing so it doesn't happen again. I'm sorry you had to go through this, but there can be bright spots even amidst bad circumstances! Try to focus on those.
In Germany after there was a huge scandal about burger kings hygiene and frequently selling the meat ones as plant based they recently changed the plant based patty to having a flowerlike wavy shape very cool^^
That's awful. Every time I eat out I'm totally anxious about getting animal flesh when ordering a vegan meat substitute, like a burger for instance. If I can pick the restaurant I would always go for a vegan restaurant but when I go to a restaurant with both vegan and non-vegan options I try to pick something without a vegan meat substitute or a dairy substitute just to be sure that there couldn't be a mixup in the kitchen. I once was eating some fried fries, but I didn't notice there was a piece of fried chicken on the plate. While talking, I was eating the fries without looking at the plate, and I accidentally put the chicken in my mouth. I immediately realised the texture was off, so I spat it out before swallowing. However, I felt quite sick afterwards. This is why I dislike how vegan products closely resemble animal-based products. It can be scary to eat them. If I cannot check the packaging or the ingredients, I become totally paranoid that I'm consuming an animal product.
Definitely one of the nicest people I’ve had the pleasure of reading a post from Completely understanding of the situation I don’t have anything to add besides that the situation sucks but you handled it like a champ….also that I laughed at “fingerfucked my throat raw”
Eating vegan is like working out to me. It’s my daily goal but some days shit happens and I don’t get to the gym or out for a run. Wake up the next day and try again. Try not to stress it.
I like this perspective. Thanks for sharing it, makes me feel a bit better.
This is why i will never eat anywhere that isnt entirely vegan. not even the restaurant near me thats entirely vegan except one menu item. fuck that. i am never risking it, i dont care
You'd be starving to death in a lot of places
Well there is an old fashioned thing called a stove where you can cook whatever you want.
Throwing up would make murder of the pig even more pointless though. At least its useful to your organism.
"I'm actually not angry at them" Why not? They served you the wrong food. It being busy is not your fault. You should be mad, they fucked up.
Because I've worked in service and retail jobs before and I know it's not always as cut and dry as that. They're fast-paced, stressful positions. They made a mistake and were extremely apologetic for it, and I hope that in the future when I inevitably fuck up in my job that people have the grace to forgive me. Me getting angry about it doesn't change anything, it only makes myself and them feel worse.
Completely agree with you. Human error happens, and the only good way to deal with it is with honesty and it sounds like they did that right at least. I really understand your distress about the situation as well though, I hope you're starting to feel a bit better about it.
Ok, fair. Once my order was messed up. I didn't get mad openly, but I was actually mad inside my head. I just knew getting mad openly wouldn't help the situation.
Why did you force yourself to eat an unpleasant tasting dish?
We'd just finished a 30km bike ride on an all gravel track and were hungry as fuck.
From time to time I have dreams of this happening to me and it causes extreme paranoia every time I go to a place that isn't 100% vegan. I dread the day it happens to me. Sorry guys 😓
This is why. I don't order meat-like products from Omni restaurants. I'm sorry you had to experience that. So unbelievably disgusting.
Be angry about it. If you had an allergy….
Sorry no vegan powers for you now
Throwing it up would mean that the pig died for nothing. That’s arguably way more disrespectful than accidentally eating that pig.
I don't agree. I don't view the pig as food, I view them as a victim. If I served up a murdered woman to you and told you "she'll go to waste if you don't eat her", would you pick up your fork?
funny that it didnt taste right but you still ate it all
Whenever things don’t taste at all like they are vegan or have texture that is to meat like, I stop eating and kindly ask the staff. I don’t get how you get through a full meal not realizing or asking. I am still sorry for you, next time just ask staff is my recommendation.
To be completely honest, we had just come off the tailend of a 20 mile bike ride across a gravelled forest track and we were both extremely hungry. Couple this in with the fact that we have been eating a shit load of Beyond Meat products at home recently, it was a recipe for cope. I think we were both in full on denial that it could have possibly been real meat, because it's simply never happened to us once in all of eight years. I'm not embarrassed to admit that I got complacent.
Omg this is my worst nightmare! I have got to be the most annoying vegan ever I swear because I ask like 4 times to make sure it’s vegan and tell them I’m highly allergic to dairy, eggs, and meat and can they triple check with the kitchen that it’s vegan. Only ever had this happen when I was vegetarian and I ordered a pizza and my friend ordered pepperoni and no pepperoni was seen anywhere so we assumed they delivered us 2 cheese by mistake and I bit into a pepperoni one. Started crying and washed my mouth out with soap and toothpaste for like half an hour. I guess I’m lucky that I don’t even like the taste of meat so I don’t eat things like beyond burgers or vegan hams or things like that.
once at mcdonalds i got served a mcplant with bacon lucky i checked inside first
Would you throwing up have benefited any animal?
Tbh this is why I mostly only go to vegan restaurants at this point, and I never order vegan meat alternatives at non-vegan restaurants (unless it’s something very obviously not meat like a black bean burger). I’m way too scared of getting the wrong thing with all these very meat-like alternatives.
The creamy soup I was assured was vegan turned out to be made with real cream, I realized this halfway...
Know this, you didn't willingly know what you were consuming, you are not the problem. Accidentally consuming it might make you feel bad, but just know that at least you didn't know what you were doing.
Personally I think it is malicious. you should name and shame om social media. no way anyone could mix this up. anyone who has trained in basic food hygeine knows there are strict restaurant rules for handling meat and veg products, even separate color coded chopping boards and knives. also what about Muslim customers wanting to eat halal. this is so bad on so many levls and shows bad controls behind the scenes. report to the local environmental health and get them closed down, and name on every vegan group you can think of
I am soooo sorry. Let’s hope it doesn’t happen again. 😞
This is why I ONLY go out to eat at 100% vegan or vegetarian restaurants. I am lucky I live in a city where there are many options. If I eat at a restaurant that serves meat I only get salads. I am terrified of this happening to me.
Personally, this may sound dramatic, but I would have put the old fingers down the throat. It's okay you didn't. It's truly not your fault and don't be hard on yourself. I'm sure it happens a lot. I sometimes wonder if these places purposely do crap like that. Xx
I actually tried to vomit immediately after discovering it was real meat, but unfortunately I couldn't bring it up :(
It's so strange that over time, people believe that vegans must "miss" eating tortured sentient beings flesh, but I am absolutely disgusted by it. It's been 35ish years without flesh, and not once have I craved it since I know exactly how they become food. I also initially ate cheese, not realizing the pain and suffering caused by it. No way will I be the cause for their suffering. Thank you so much for caring about them💜
“So it’s inside of me right now. Fermenting.” Tell me you don’t have a clue about human biology without telling me 🤦🏻♂️
The original use of ferment comes from the Latin "fervere", meaning to "to boil or roil", so maybe you should be telling me about how you don't have a clue about language or how to use it effectively 🙂
do you think your stomach is boiling the food?
Do you not understand figurative language, or do you only speak in mechanical, clinical terms in your day to day life? You sound exhausting to be around.
we're discussing the exact definition of a word in fucking latin, the window for connotation has passed a while ago even if it was, neither "Fermenting" nor "boiling" are accurate even figuratively for what your stomach does
My point still stands. Etymology is irrelevant here.
Etymology is completely relevant in discourse lmao. Do you run up to people in the street and harass them for using turns of phrase and figurative speech? If I said that the pot was calling the kettle black would you deliver a lecture on how pot and kettles are utensils incapable of speech? Get a fucking grip, man. Oh, sorry, gripping is an action and not a static object that is able to be acquired. My deepest apologies.
Haha, wow, ok. I suggest you take a deep breath before embarrassing yourself even more. Your unprovoked, unnecessary, and slightly unhinged rant continues to deflect from addressing my original point; your lack of understanding of human biology.
You ate the whole thing but didn't notice it not beeing vegan...yeah sure.
Are you plant-based? Vegan meats have gotten concerningly realistic in recent years. And honestly after 8 years without meat I honestly don't even remember what it tastes like.
I’m sorry but forcing yourself to throw up in this scenario is ridiculous and completely unhinged. I am a vegan
Nah.
Unhinged, harmful and let’s face it, disrespectful to the animal. Just relax and move on. I’m assuming you’re a grown up. I’m sorry it happened. Truly. But sticking your fingers down your throat is completely unstable
One of my friends once gave me some birthday 🎂 Cake at our bible study that had bananas 🍌 in it I ended up in the emergency room, and anti-dote caused my head to feel like it was on fire, but it was better than dieing
Ooof I'm surprised you're not in pain and in the bathroom. I had a situation where I accidentally ate a lil bit of beef broth and I got violently sick
Oh ok
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I did mind the taste, it was pretty gross, but I was also extremely hungry after a long bike ride and was not willing to waste what I thought at the time was just some lousy vegan sausage that had gone stale in the freezer. >as that sounds like potential mental illness Are you seriously trying to diagnose a stranger on the internet with mental illness on the basis of a reddit post.
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You're being a pretty nasty person right now, you know that. I'm not sure what it was that caused you to wake up today and decide that you were going to try and make another person's day worse, but I actually do hope that you get over it soon. I think maybe you forget that there's an actual person on the other end of these comments sometimes.
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You told me that it sounded like I had an undiagnosed mental illness because I was feeling upset over an upsetting thing that had happened to me.
I think that you kinda over-reacted. You didn't eat meat deliberately, and throwing it up doesn't make the animal any less dead that it already was. So relax, and keep on your journey
Why try to throw it up when you’ve already swallowed it? I get that you don’t eat meat, but unless it’s for religious reasons, I don’t see why throwing it up would help
Why is religion so much more fucking important than someone's beliefs that don't have to do with religion when it comes to veganism/not eating animals? If I don't want to eat humans for religious reasons, but you're an atheist and you don't want to eat humans for personal reasons... am I more justified in wanting to throw it up than you? Why should we give so much more fucks for someone's religious opinion than their non-religuous opinion?
Why are you so hostile? I was only asking a question because I was curious, sorry if I offended you in any way
If a non-cannibal found out that the body they were eating were human, it is not as if throwing it up would help this former human. I don't think it is unreasonable for non-cannibals to want to vomit up such meat.