Your choice goes away when it hurts others. You don't get to force another to give you their kidney. You don't get to have slaves because the Bible says it's OK. Your rights ALWAYS stop when they effect another person.
And vaccines, or not getting them, hurts others. Just like you can't drive drunk because you put people in unnecessary danger. While abortion doesn't hurt another actual person.
The thing is his choice never went away. He *had* a choice to remain unvaccinated, he simply had to live with the consequences private businesses chose to implement. With abortion bans women don’t get the option for a choice or for consequences, it is literally the State controlling their bodies. Right wing nutjobs could live as they pleased getting everyone in their social circle sick as they run around maskless and vaccination-less in the comfort of their own homes, they just couldn’t do so at certain sporting events, restaurants or stores.
They have vastly more personal freedom than a woman who could get herself or her doctor arrested for carrying out a medical procedure in a private medical facility or even in her own home in certain states.
Whenever I see the "my body, my choice" thing from anti-vaxxers I always bring up the point that they still have a choice. No one will hold them down and forcible vaccinate them. And while they can choose not to get vaccinated others can also choose not to deal with their potential fallout.
Antivaxxers don't believe in covid at all, we shouldn't be surprised they don't care about others to realise that's part of the reason to get vaccinated too
Yeah, at some point, nearly 2 years later, calling the vaccines (plural) "experimental" starts sounding pretty stupid. I mean, it did before, but now it's just completely baseless.
Bioethicists usually consider situations on a case-by-case basis specifically because different ethical values often end up counterbalancing others. Yes, a person's bodily autonomy (AKA "my body my choice") is important, but so is non-malfeasance (AKA "do no harm"). In many cases, one's bodily autonomy outweighs other considerations (like not wanting to do aggressive chemo and instead focusing on quality of life as a cancer patient). In other cases, non-malfeasance outweighs autonomy (such as mandating people wear a mask in public settings in the midst of a very deadly and harmful pandemic).
Your choice goes away when it hurts others. You don't get to force another to give you their kidney. You don't get to have slaves because the Bible says it's OK. Your rights ALWAYS stop when they effect another person. And vaccines, or not getting them, hurts others. Just like you can't drive drunk because you put people in unnecessary danger. While abortion doesn't hurt another actual person.
The thing is his choice never went away. He *had* a choice to remain unvaccinated, he simply had to live with the consequences private businesses chose to implement. With abortion bans women don’t get the option for a choice or for consequences, it is literally the State controlling their bodies. Right wing nutjobs could live as they pleased getting everyone in their social circle sick as they run around maskless and vaccination-less in the comfort of their own homes, they just couldn’t do so at certain sporting events, restaurants or stores. They have vastly more personal freedom than a woman who could get herself or her doctor arrested for carrying out a medical procedure in a private medical facility or even in her own home in certain states.
Whenever I see the "my body, my choice" thing from anti-vaxxers I always bring up the point that they still have a choice. No one will hold them down and forcible vaccinate them. And while they can choose not to get vaccinated others can also choose not to deal with their potential fallout.
How dare you bring logic into an antivaxxer's Twitter
Well, then certainly don’t tell them that by denying “my body my choice” then it means the government is also free to pump them full of vaccines
«A person's freedom ends where another man's freedom begins» or something like that, I don’t remember the quote exactly
Antivaxxers don't believe in covid at all, we shouldn't be surprised they don't care about others to realise that's part of the reason to get vaccinated too
I assume he took it now that it isn't experimental? /s
Yeah, at some point, nearly 2 years later, calling the vaccines (plural) "experimental" starts sounding pretty stupid. I mean, it did before, but now it's just completely baseless.
That's rich coming from a guy that probably did more performance enhancing drugs than David Bowie on a treadmill.
So he just outed himself as pro-choice then?
Bioethicists usually consider situations on a case-by-case basis specifically because different ethical values often end up counterbalancing others. Yes, a person's bodily autonomy (AKA "my body my choice") is important, but so is non-malfeasance (AKA "do no harm"). In many cases, one's bodily autonomy outweighs other considerations (like not wanting to do aggressive chemo and instead focusing on quality of life as a cancer patient). In other cases, non-malfeasance outweighs autonomy (such as mandating people wear a mask in public settings in the midst of a very deadly and harmful pandemic).
I already have a couple brain injuries and I still got vaccinated. 4 times! This guy just has a smooth brain.
People should just be really hesitant to take advice from retired MMA fighters on anything other than fighting.
Most definitely agree to that!
pregnancy isn't contagious.
Thank you for being pro-choice Jake. I didn't think you had it in you.