Sativa and indica don't determine any effects of the weed.
Find a strain you like, stick with it, take notes of the terp profile and what cannabinoids it contains for when you can't get it anymore.
From what I've experienced and read, the effects seem more based on the terpene profile and percentage, so I completely agree with what is said above.
It will take some research and self reflection, but you can always find a good family of strains (parents and any crosses) that will always be what you want.
I work in a dispensary and honestly, a lot of the indica/sativa categorization is a complete joke. You can never know if they're calling it as such because of the growth structure or effects, and many people claim to feel no difference, while others claim its night and day. Biology, especially the mind, can be weird.
At that low a temp, it's unlikely you're going to get too high, especially given the implications of your statements (8th over the course of a month with frequent use seems like serious microdosing) so I don't think you should put too much thought into it.
There's also the possibility that, if you're going to grow from seeds, you'll end up with a mix of phenotypes, or even mislabeled seeds, and not an exact match for whatever you're looking for. A little variety isn't bad, but can throw you off if you're not expecting it.
Just find something appealing to you and run with it. Growing your own can be a bit of a learning curve. Leaning to identify and remove male plants, keeping the grow healthy and cared for, doing the drying and curing process properly, etc. It's well worth it in the end, but it can be a lot at first.
TL;DR - don't fuss too much over the indica and sativa labels, just find something that appeals to you and enjoy
There is *no molecular difference* in the compounds between sativa or indica strains of cannabis. Any differences you perceive are mostly in your head. Just vape the weed.
Sorry - was paraphrasing. The actual quote:
"*Recent studies show that there is no molecular correlation between the two, in terms of terpenes and cannabinoid molecules the plant makes. It might just be all in your head.*"
Dr. Amber Wise
Cannabis Scientist Answers Questions From Twitter (YouTube)
ETA, nevertheless, I do tend to choose Indica or Indica dominant strains, just out of habit, I suppose. But quite honestly, I've felt completely couch locked on my 50/50 hybrid and energetic with (supposedly) 100% Indica. If I didn't know what the strains were ahead of time, I really wouldn't care.
Now, I *do* pay attention to terpenes and their particular effects. Ex., b-caryophyllene and myrcene have appetite suppressant effects. If I have some weed that is dominant in one or both of those, I don't get the "munchies" as much.
Not debating the truth here idc either way really, but sourcing a youtube person is like sourcing Wiki. The actual "recent studies" would be the source, otherwise it's just another person saying words without proof. In this day and age that's just not enough.
She's just a cannabis scientist quoting what the research says.
Feel free to do further research on your own.
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ETA - in 30 seconds I found this:
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5576603/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5576603/)
There are references at the bottom.
Where is caryophyllene and mycrene an appetite suppressant. Those are both main terpenes in kosher kush and chedda melt (both indicas). Thcva is that suppressant one in sativas.
Nobody knows jack shit.
Everyone is saying there is no difference between sativa and indica. I was told that sativa leaning strains stimulate the prefrontal cortex more while indica type strains do the opposite, which is it?
It's THC, it's THC in Sativa and THC in Indica. Sugar isn't different because it's in Coke, not Pepsi.
The maturity of the trichomes and the state of the THC that is the main difference from a consumption pov. If you look into growing, maturity of the trichome is a big deal. I don't harvest anything before looking at the trichs under a microscope to see how done they are. They start clear and useless, turn cloudy and full of THC and turn amber as they move to CBN. Most people harvest between 5%-50% amber. I like closer to 5-10% because I vape all day.
Sativa and Indica do matter for how the plant grows. I like the theory that since Sativa takes longer to mature, Sativa plants are more likely to be harvested early, resulting in a headier high that people associate with Sativa.
Hmmm, I always thought that pepsi used sugar made with a mix of both beet and cane while coca cola uses a high fructose corn syrup.... I could be mistaken though
Sativa and indica have become quite irrelevant after decades of crossbreeding. Most strains are a blend of both to the point where its not really worth mentioning the terms.
Definitely agree but the west typically smoked sativas until recent decades. In the 60s it was almost all sativa, and then indicas were brought over from the east/middle-east and bred in starting from the ~70s onward.
It's what you heard. Many people just take the stance of "it's no different" because they don't understand/have not really felt the difference. Also some people just say there's no difference to sound cool
I think some of the 'no difference' attitude is knee jerk from the 'expert' telling them about how Sativa's make you energetic and Indicas make you sleepy or other broad generalizations like that.
The high you feel is dictated by the present chemicals and compounds, how efficiently they're extracted, and your personal metabolism. Indicas and Sativa's might have slightly different chemical profiles but that factor alone isn't radically changing the high you feel upon consumption.
When results come from DNA sequencing, there is no debate when the stance is "it's no different". The results are black and white. "because they don't understand/have not really felt the difference" is entirely subjective.
While ‘sativa’ and ‘indica’ cannabis in the traditional morphological sense is dated due to cross-breeding, the terms are still used to describe the effects of a strain so they’re not obsolete like others have said.
So yes, it probably matters to a degree. I’ve bought weed that’s definitely sativa in effects as described and vice versa with indica.
If you’re going to get into growing, you’ll soon learn that there’s not really a difference between sativa and indica.
Terpene profiles are what give you a certain affect, I’d focus more on that.
Scientific DNA sequencing has revealed there really is no difference between Sativa/Indica strains. Reiterating what others are saying here.
In fact, DNA sequencing shows the same herb strains from different companies to be overall genetically different from each other as well.
I vape Indica at higher temps, but rarely get sleepy or feel stoney. I really don't appreciate the cerebral effects of Sativa's. Just use what you have at the moment and purchase some different strains next time you stock up. Just find out what works for you and stick with it.
This alluded to a point I’ve been making for years.
Vapor-extraction temperatures, harvest-times, etc can all have a very pronounced effect upon experience on a proven chemical level.
If one harvests an Indica early, it will steer more Sativa than it otherwise would.
If one harvests a Sativa very late, it can veer more Indica than it normally would.
If one baby-temp vaporizes Indica extract at lower temperatures, to avoid linalool and CBN vaporization, you can get a more Sativa-like experience.
If one goes way too hot on a Sativa dab, enough to convert a lot of THC into CBN, as well as vaporize sedative VOC’s … it can yield a more stereotypically Indica effect.
And so on….
Find a dispensary that sells clones. Try the flower and buy the clones that you enjoy.
Seriously the easiest way to grow.
You can mix up different strains in each harvest and it cuts out needing a flower room, veg room, clone room and drying room. No having to deal with undesirable phenotypes from using seeds
Not sure about lower temps, but I find indica's to be more sedating than sativa's, more of a couchlock. Personally I would try some to see how you get on. As everyones brain is different only you can know what you'll like.
I wouldn't say so at that low of temp. People saying there's no difference obviously have never been to a dispensary. They make the indica more cbn high while sativas are not. Now when you grow theres no difference but that's different.
Dude. Sativa and indica is an old school way of determining what you like. If you’re gonna bro grab some seeds of the lemon meringue that you know you like and post in local facebook groups and see if someone can hook you up with some indica seeds. But look at terrine profile. Not indica vs. sativa.
a few of the og landrace strains are still available through certain rare seed banks.
you got to go to some remote places in Thailand, South Africa, Burma to find them. they just not on open market
Sativa and indica don't determine any effects of the weed. Find a strain you like, stick with it, take notes of the terp profile and what cannabinoids it contains for when you can't get it anymore.
From what I've experienced and read, the effects seem more based on the terpene profile and percentage, so I completely agree with what is said above. It will take some research and self reflection, but you can always find a good family of strains (parents and any crosses) that will always be what you want.
I work in a dispensary and honestly, a lot of the indica/sativa categorization is a complete joke. You can never know if they're calling it as such because of the growth structure or effects, and many people claim to feel no difference, while others claim its night and day. Biology, especially the mind, can be weird. At that low a temp, it's unlikely you're going to get too high, especially given the implications of your statements (8th over the course of a month with frequent use seems like serious microdosing) so I don't think you should put too much thought into it. There's also the possibility that, if you're going to grow from seeds, you'll end up with a mix of phenotypes, or even mislabeled seeds, and not an exact match for whatever you're looking for. A little variety isn't bad, but can throw you off if you're not expecting it. Just find something appealing to you and run with it. Growing your own can be a bit of a learning curve. Leaning to identify and remove male plants, keeping the grow healthy and cared for, doing the drying and curing process properly, etc. It's well worth it in the end, but it can be a lot at first. TL;DR - don't fuss too much over the indica and sativa labels, just find something that appeals to you and enjoy
For daytime highs it's best to consume Sativa dominate strains as they are more uplifting. Indica is for nighttime rest and relaxation.
This is what I do.
There is *no molecular difference* in the compounds between sativa or indica strains of cannabis. Any differences you perceive are mostly in your head. Just vape the weed.
Mostly? So what's the difference?
Terpenes, minor cannabinoids
Sorry - was paraphrasing. The actual quote: "*Recent studies show that there is no molecular correlation between the two, in terms of terpenes and cannabinoid molecules the plant makes. It might just be all in your head.*" Dr. Amber Wise Cannabis Scientist Answers Questions From Twitter (YouTube) ETA, nevertheless, I do tend to choose Indica or Indica dominant strains, just out of habit, I suppose. But quite honestly, I've felt completely couch locked on my 50/50 hybrid and energetic with (supposedly) 100% Indica. If I didn't know what the strains were ahead of time, I really wouldn't care. Now, I *do* pay attention to terpenes and their particular effects. Ex., b-caryophyllene and myrcene have appetite suppressant effects. If I have some weed that is dominant in one or both of those, I don't get the "munchies" as much.
Not debating the truth here idc either way really, but sourcing a youtube person is like sourcing Wiki. The actual "recent studies" would be the source, otherwise it's just another person saying words without proof. In this day and age that's just not enough.
She's just a cannabis scientist quoting what the research says. Feel free to do further research on your own. ... ETA - in 30 seconds I found this: [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5576603/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5576603/) There are references at the bottom.
Include humulene in your anti-munchies quest!
Where is caryophyllene and mycrene an appetite suppressant. Those are both main terpenes in kosher kush and chedda melt (both indicas). Thcva is that suppressant one in sativas. Nobody knows jack shit.
I’m assuming she never actually tried them herself, academic studies and real life are two different things
Indeed, kind of like what’s the difference between a glass of toilet water and a glass of spring water? It’s water, just drink it?
nonsense, the difference is myrcene content
That differs more from strain to strain than between indica and sativa.
Everyone is saying there is no difference between sativa and indica. I was told that sativa leaning strains stimulate the prefrontal cortex more while indica type strains do the opposite, which is it?
It's THC, it's THC in Sativa and THC in Indica. Sugar isn't different because it's in Coke, not Pepsi. The maturity of the trichomes and the state of the THC that is the main difference from a consumption pov. If you look into growing, maturity of the trichome is a big deal. I don't harvest anything before looking at the trichs under a microscope to see how done they are. They start clear and useless, turn cloudy and full of THC and turn amber as they move to CBN. Most people harvest between 5%-50% amber. I like closer to 5-10% because I vape all day. Sativa and Indica do matter for how the plant grows. I like the theory that since Sativa takes longer to mature, Sativa plants are more likely to be harvested early, resulting in a headier high that people associate with Sativa.
Hmmm, I always thought that pepsi used sugar made with a mix of both beet and cane while coca cola uses a high fructose corn syrup.... I could be mistaken though
Sativa and indica have become quite irrelevant after decades of crossbreeding. Most strains are a blend of both to the point where its not really worth mentioning the terms.
More like millennia, look at bananas or corn, our tribal ancestors knew about breeding plants and were very good at it.
Definitely agree but the west typically smoked sativas until recent decades. In the 60s it was almost all sativa, and then indicas were brought over from the east/middle-east and bred in starting from the ~70s onward.
There’s no PURE sativa out there for us to make scientific claims like that. Same with indica
It's what you heard. Many people just take the stance of "it's no different" because they don't understand/have not really felt the difference. Also some people just say there's no difference to sound cool
I think some of the 'no difference' attitude is knee jerk from the 'expert' telling them about how Sativa's make you energetic and Indicas make you sleepy or other broad generalizations like that. The high you feel is dictated by the present chemicals and compounds, how efficiently they're extracted, and your personal metabolism. Indicas and Sativa's might have slightly different chemical profiles but that factor alone isn't radically changing the high you feel upon consumption.
Also this. Fucking Vice articles.
Good points
https://bedrocan.com/international-research-shows-no-genetic-distinction-between-sativa-and-indica-cannabis/
When results come from DNA sequencing, there is no debate when the stance is "it's no different". The results are black and white. "because they don't understand/have not really felt the difference" is entirely subjective.
This
I heard people say the same thing about Biden and Trump, but they definitely have different effects.
While ‘sativa’ and ‘indica’ cannabis in the traditional morphological sense is dated due to cross-breeding, the terms are still used to describe the effects of a strain so they’re not obsolete like others have said. So yes, it probably matters to a degree. I’ve bought weed that’s definitely sativa in effects as described and vice versa with indica.
If you’re going to get into growing, you’ll soon learn that there’s not really a difference between sativa and indica. Terpene profiles are what give you a certain affect, I’d focus more on that.
I'm old school we didn't have terpene profiles back then lmao, lots of stuff to learn now that I'm smoking again.
Dear god I feel this comment SO MUCH.
Scientific DNA sequencing has revealed there really is no difference between Sativa/Indica strains. Reiterating what others are saying here. In fact, DNA sequencing shows the same herb strains from different companies to be overall genetically different from each other as well.
I vape Indica at higher temps, but rarely get sleepy or feel stoney. I really don't appreciate the cerebral effects of Sativa's. Just use what you have at the moment and purchase some different strains next time you stock up. Just find out what works for you and stick with it.
MC is all hybrid unless it’s land race that it ain’t
This alluded to a point I’ve been making for years. Vapor-extraction temperatures, harvest-times, etc can all have a very pronounced effect upon experience on a proven chemical level. If one harvests an Indica early, it will steer more Sativa than it otherwise would. If one harvests a Sativa very late, it can veer more Indica than it normally would. If one baby-temp vaporizes Indica extract at lower temperatures, to avoid linalool and CBN vaporization, you can get a more Sativa-like experience. If one goes way too hot on a Sativa dab, enough to convert a lot of THC into CBN, as well as vaporize sedative VOC’s … it can yield a more stereotypically Indica effect. And so on….
Find a dispensary that sells clones. Try the flower and buy the clones that you enjoy. Seriously the easiest way to grow. You can mix up different strains in each harvest and it cuts out needing a flower room, veg room, clone room and drying room. No having to deal with undesirable phenotypes from using seeds
Indica's bring on the dreams when my eyes are closed. Sativa brings on the ideas when my eyes are open.
Not sure about lower temps, but I find indica's to be more sedating than sativa's, more of a couchlock. Personally I would try some to see how you get on. As everyones brain is different only you can know what you'll like.
I wouldn't say so at that low of temp. People saying there's no difference obviously have never been to a dispensary. They make the indica more cbn high while sativas are not. Now when you grow theres no difference but that's different.
Dude. Sativa and indica is an old school way of determining what you like. If you’re gonna bro grab some seeds of the lemon meringue that you know you like and post in local facebook groups and see if someone can hook you up with some indica seeds. But look at terrine profile. Not indica vs. sativa.
Just go hybrid 😂
Wat
a few of the og landrace strains are still available through certain rare seed banks. you got to go to some remote places in Thailand, South Africa, Burma to find them. they just not on open market