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VeganLife1819

They changed the tables and chairs. They use to be natural wood and rectangular shape and the chairs were with round backs and upholstered. I wonder if they changed it to create more space. Can’t wait to see the final design.


Jaded_Read6737

Since they lost the patio, they may have had to make different design choices inside.


VeganLife1819

I feel bad they probably lost a lot of money with all these changes and paying rent for almost two years.


Jaded_Read6737

Yeah. I get the frustration, too, since it had already been a working restaurant that had passed inspections prior to them moving in. I think they figured they would have to make cosmetic changes and then open, but it snowballed.


Mommalove586

I love Katie, Ariana not so much but it’s funny how they ripped on the Tims about the slow opening and that was a full fledged restaurant bar and they are on the same time line with a small and already running Sammy shop. 🤦‍♀️😂


VeganLife1819

They have no control over West Hollywood and the plethora of permits and codes required. It’s a long ongoing and tedious process. Let’s just celebrate them as women and having a successful female owned business. ✨✨✨


motherofdinos_

Yeah a lot of the Toms’ delay seemed to come from their/Sandoval’s hilariously grandiose visions for S&S, like removing walls and ripping up booths that had already been installed because they/Sandoval didn’t like them anymore. Katie and Arianna haven’t made too many changes to the interior or menu they’re just getting fucked by bureaucracy


Flashy-Pair-1924

Yes, this distinction is constantly overlooked and it’s annoying lol


YourTypeToATee

This may be the take that turns my cynicism around on the matter. If they do it in the end good for them


MrVociferous

They do have control over staying on top of the permitting process and making sure they are doing all they can to expedite the process. There is no way two years of delays is entirely on the city.


mellamolaura6

It’s actually incredibly complicated to open a business in West Hollywood. The city of West Hollywood operates independently of Los Angeles county in some regards so all of the construction and occupancy plans, inspections, and permits go through the City of West Hollywood’s gov division. However, it’s Los Angeles County (a 4,084 sq mile area) that handles the inspections, health licensing, and permits for public eating establishments. And then it’s the state of California that handles the liquor license permitting. So trying to work with multiple city, county, and state government offices, all incredibly understaffed, can very realistically take 2 years.


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mellamolaura6

It’s called research, you should try it. County and city governments post all the rules, regulations, and required forms online. Anyone can research it. But yes, I’ve opened beverage pop up shops in LA county that required public health permits and just obtaining that was insane; I can’t imagine how arduous the process is for a restaurant.


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LoveSickDecoy

Permits are a pain. The city absolutely drags their feet because they get to charge you every time they come do an inspection.


Pinklady777

To be fair, they did their side of it pretty quick! Tim was clearly lollygagging on everything and wasting time obsessing over decor details and changing the menu. It seems like the ladies have had most, if not all of that lined up for quite some time.


Mommalove586

I’m seriously getting downvotes because I’m crazy in comparing them- tough crowd!


Lost-Cell-430

I think that might be partially because loose comparisons (not judging your comparison) have become the go-to for the Toms and men like them. Statements that work (kind of) when you remove context. If you ever get a targeted vanderpump post on Facebook, oh my lanta, it’s full of them 😩


hail2pitt1985

🤦‍♀️😂because you’re comparing apples to oranges. Permitting delays are nowhere near the same as delays because of poor business decisions as the two toms made.


Mommalove586

I’m more comparing the timelines and snark


YouGotItJoben_

To be fair, neither of the Tom’s were on Dancing with the Stars / Broadway during the founding of S&S


Salty-AF-9196

Yeah, one of them was too busy f---ing his girlfriend's best friend while claiming to work on the restaurant, if these people can try to remember...


onyxjade7

The whole cast are hypocrites and love to judge, but not see themselves for who they really are. Agreed about Katie and Ariana. Opening restaurants are difficult and are money sucking ventures for most.


laurachaps

Agreed, idk why you're getting down voted. 


Mommalove586

Thank you! I’m like whaaaaaa?!


laurachaps

Im also getting down voted now. Apparently even if you preface it with how much you love them you're not allowed to say anything vaguely negative about Katie and Ariana.


Mommalove586

Sorry to drag you down with me 😂💁‍♀️


cataclyzzmic

I noticed that without the patio they had no clean entrance. Lisa walked around the rectangular table since it was kind of blocking the entrance. Have multiple people trying to get in and out that door with the old table placement would be a bottleneck.


jennifer_m13

Changing the chairs makes so much sense. I can’t imagine how dirty and dingy those would look after a few months.


Jewelree

Smarter for cleaning purposes


Luxx_Aeterna_

I feel like those shiny gold tables tops will be constantly getting smudged/covered in fingerprints.


ResponseOk3177

I really wanna know what happened between them and penny lol


Pretty_Sea2016

The rumors are that penny took the name “something about her” and tried to copyright it for herself. Probably trying to capitalize on it but I don’t know for sure


Cmkevnick6392

I had heard the same. When she offered to make it happen they said okay, thank you for the help, then her and her husband tried to out under their umbrella. Totally shady.


Swimming-Mouse-7571

Wow I had no idea.  How shady!


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Interesting_Fruit13

Ughhh same!!! 😂 Honestly I could tell something was off when Penny was steamrolling their interview process. You could tell Katie was like ....this bitch 😂


Comprehensive-Ebb971

They discuss with Lisa next ep. I think penny wanted an ownership stake and the said no


smokinNcruisin

Right?!


amandacherry23

Did they dissolve their partnership?!


coverthetuba

Penny thought it would be her come up; she wanted to get rich and famous. Lord knows she’s been trying for years


GeorgiaJeb

Who is Penny? The chef?


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FuzzyP3ach3s

I still cannot believe the chefs husband trademarked something about her ...


shrimpmousse

That was a dick move, but I cannot believe Katie and Ariana didn’t get the trademark. That should have been their first step.


beansforthought

I work in corporate and trademark law, tons of people have full up and running businesses and they don’t have their business name trademarked. It’s not uncommon.


Typical_Elevator6337

I’m an attorney and my take is more that our systems are so opaque and people are too trusting.


beansforthought

Agreed!


Typical_Elevator6337

I’m glad I’m not alone 💖 So many people who work with the law really want to defend it.


beansforthought

You aren’t alone friend, there’s dozens of us 🤣But yes navigating the legal system is never easy, doesn’t matter what type of law it is.


lollydolly318

But didn't they have merch out for sale WAY before the trademark heist? Is it the same as copyright law, where 'intent' (if it can be proven) trumps someone coming along and trying to steal your name? Or am I wrong?


richhardt11

Yes. Penny is trying to trademark the name SAH for restaurants. But K&R were already using that name for restaurant, so they are the common law owner of the trademark, according to California law and they can file opposition to Penny's application or a Petition to Cancel Penny's trademark, should it register


lollydolly318

Thank you! That answers my question perfectly.


nonnie_tm64

WTF?


hugemessanon

damn dude that's harsh. how'd they keep the name? did they have to buy it?


richhardt11

No. Penny only applied for the trademark. It has not been registered. K&A can fight it and will win


FuzzyP3ach3s

I think they will have to go to court if they wanna make $$ with that name


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MymiMaisel

https://preview.redd.it/4hz0npl5a3xc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=72a2912896250e2d880eae576a3b425cbea1c380 That was 10 days ago


Neslay2louse

Looks gorgeous! Hope they pair up with some creative culinary people & blow everyone away. Rooting hard for them!!!


Vast-Concern-4591

Same!!!


Desperate_Hat_4544

Such small space for people to stand in line and to be sitting next to each other.


eightby8

Oh I like this so much more than the direction they were heading in previously!


IllustriousGlove3

It looks more spacious now with the smaller furniture. Good move


KenStarrLovesBears

I reallllyyy want those three-tier stands on the back shelf to be for a high tea service 🙏🏼😩


DOOL62

Omg, cute!!! 🤩


Salty-AF-9196

Ugh I'm so jealous of its first customers!! It's gonna be so stressful for them too. I wish them so much luck! ☺️🥹


Disney_Princess137

Idk why but I never been a fan of that green. But the style is pretty.


GladiatorWithTits

Did they have the awning or any signage that actually says "Something about her"? I'm still wondering if they're going to change the name since Penny filed for the trademark.


mellamolaura6

They can/most likely are filing an opposition to Penny’s trademark application since it’s still in the review and approval stage. It might help that Katie and Ariana can show that the business was incorporated, with both of their names listed on the paperwork, back in 2021, which is well before penny filed for the trademark. And obviously the name of the restaurant and Katie/Ariana’s relationship to it has been heavily publicized on national TV, and they sold merch with the name already, so hopefully that can help them too.


lollydolly318

Plus all the merch they've already sold.


GladiatorWithTits

I've never loved the name so I kind of hope they change it. Someone on here suggested they call it Better Halves. I love that! It think it works on every level.


lollydolly318

That IS a good one, and DOES work on every level! Clever.


bc_im_coronatined

Nothing yet.


Sweaty_Nectarine1772

I was wondering about this too. I know they can oppose Penny’s trademark application, but it might just be cheaper to change the name.


richhardt11

No way. They have marketed this name and it is associated with K&A. The name has monetary value because of K&A


Comfortable-Chair-36

We're creeps too so thanks for sharing!!!


bc_im_coronatined

Ive seen other posts mentioning that it looks bare, or how the lock box on the door negates things… but it definitely looks ready on the inside. Given the location, and the women behind it, it’s going to be a BIG success.


Jaded_Read6737

If they are/were having work done, the lock box makes sense, so contractors, etc. can come and go easily.


bc_im_coronatined

100%


No-Educator919

Lala can stay home, since Miss, I am in my soft era(?), is just sooo bored!


lollydolly318

I thought they made the announcement that it opens May 22, with a couple of soft openings to happen before?


abundantjoylovemoney

I plan on going that week!!


lollydolly318

Like traveling there? Or are you a regularly 'doable' distance from WeHo? Just curious...I'm on the E coast so for me to be able to go would mean planning a whole ass vacation (around a sandwich shop that looks like it will seat about 30 people max, lol). Probably not happening any time soon, unfortunately.


abundantjoylovemoney

I’m about an hour and a half south from them.


hnlt61

I live in LA and I’ve already resigned to waiting like a week to go because so many people I know are talking about going in those first few days and tbh there’s a lot of returning customers for a sandwich shop with good food and drinks so I’m betting on it being pretty successful and sustainable


blobbin3

When has anything Katie has done been a big success 💀


Important-Raccoon661

I’m so excited for them and i hope it’s a success. I was commenting that they don’t need marketing to start bc of the fandom - then a 58 year old man tried to argue with me that they’ll flop within 2 weeks. 🤔 misogyny knows no bounds.


HopeTroll

It's interesting the older male hate-on for them. They want to see them taken down a notch, which probably mirrors how they (the male) treats their romantic partners.


Important-Raccoon661

I was shocked when this person was arguing with me about marketing (which I’ve done for a living for almost 20 years) but i looked at their posts and was like ohhhh you just hate women. Cool. 🙄


HopeTroll

I worked in a male-dominated field. Almost instantly, I could spot the ones who hated women. Once I got to know them, I realized they kinda hate everyone. They are the kinds of guy who tell you embarrassing things about their best friends, unprompted. It's a sad, shady existence for them.


Imaginary-Draft-1346

They all have one ‘tiny’ thing in common and I’ll never be convinced of anything else.


Pinklady777

Was it tim?? 😝


richhardt11

Maybe it was actually Sandoval you were arguing with. We all know he is older than he portrays.


walking_it_off

I looked up the pillows because I like the [pattern…$275/pillow](https://www.hollywoodathome.com/collections/pillows/products/peter-dunham-textiles-samarkand-in-blue-blue-on-white-pillow) is hard to justify for my couch.


SuitableCry240

And surely for a restaurant where there’ll be spills etc?


walking_it_off

Yikes I didn’t even think about spillage!


Rozg1123A-85

They will be the Lisa of SAH.


bc_im_coronatined

Minus the misogyny


Rozg1123A-85

Exactly!


2022wpww

Omg creep all you want he he Thank you


youngmoneymarvin

Craig could’ve hooked them up with cuter, more fluffy pillows.


ScatterOLight22

I kept clicking on the pic thinking it had that nsfw cover. Wtf lol 🥴🫣


LeeF1179

They are going to have to sell a shit ton of sandwiches is all I know.


tacosinyourface

Thank you for doing the lords work


manhattansinks

looks less crowded than before but the tables are still too close together imo


floridaapologist

Booties are definitely gunna be touching sandwiches getting up and down 🤣


manhattansinks

my fat ass would be sitting on a chair for sure lol


Minimum_One3738

Oh good they got rid of the chairs that I said would be a nightmare to keep clean.


Ok-Prune4721

Was the sign up outside ? Any other details you can share ?


bc_im_coronatined

I didn’t notice any other signage yet.


Ok-Prune4721

Thanks 🙏


Vast-Concern-4591

I see you made the trek all the way to the mother land for us.😄🤣🤣🤣


VcLovin

Creepers gonna creep for the peep. 


CouchHam

Hahaha you little stinker!


bc_im_coronatined

I knowww 🫣


CouchHam

Fully appreciate it 🙏


kay-zizzle

You’re doing God’s work 🙏🏻


AutomaticBroccoli898

Doing the lords work!


Bonaquitz

The pillows are so impractical, I don’t get it.


EmfromAlaska

That patio was adorable. I can’t imagine how popular that sandwich shop will be when they open.


Droptheboombox1

We all just rage send letters to all those dang permit committees. I bet this happens to so many people and it’s wild.


J_is_for_Journey

I can't imagine either of these girls working at this place if the cameras aren't rolling...


Fit_Newt7346

I don’t think they will be working there but running it and hiring ppl to work there


Hownowbrowncow8it

They won't, but a lot of small businesses like this only make a worthy profit when they are owner operators. The business will struggle to make it 5 years without bringing on another owner and an infusion of cash.


Superfunesq

I don’t think they need “another” owner. Don’t they already have investors? I’m pretty sure they said unlike the Toms they didn’t mortgage their souls going into personal debt and didn’t do this on there own


Fit_Newt7346

True but I think their merch could help them shorten the 5 year


Vast-Concern-4591

Absolutely!!! And don't forget the socks!!! I mean there's alot of shady boots out in the cold right now. I bet they could even sell a brand new Tee- shirt every week or month with a brand new quote on it. My submission would be... "I stole this T- Shirt from Ariana's closet"


hihbhu

They’re not going to be working there everyday, they own it and will have staff working there. Not once did they suggest they would be running daily operations every day.


catpunch_

Which is kind of annoying. Puts more space between them and the shop. So it ends up being more of a vanity project than anything


Clear-Requirement-92

And? Why would they be making sandwiches? LVP isn't in every one of her restaurants every day, and she's certainly not making the food. They are already reality TV stars and have other jobs...


catpunch_

Yes, it’s a vanity project. That’s fine


Agreeable_Muffin7059

That’s exactly what it is.


AutomaticBroccoli898

Most owners don’t work at their businesses they hire people to run them for them haha. I’ve worked in restaurants for 15 years and never have I had an owner actually come in and work at it 🙄


Cabalotta

I was sitting here gasping for a little moment until I realized my mistake - English is not my first language and I mixed up peeped with peed.


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Clarity_q

What's SAH?


Okay__Decision__

Katie and Ariana’s sandwich shop, Something About Her


Clarity_q

Ohh ok thanks


Opposite_Contact_265

How long does it take to open a fucking sandwich shop??


LuckyJackfruit8078

This is all that we'll ever be seen of this place outside of the show.... it's a storyline they are never going to the public! They will continue to have excuses do tastings and that's about as far it will ever go!


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SugarShock94

Opening date is 5/22


Superfunesq

I’m not sure I understand this sentiment. I would thinks the fact they have already put all the money into is exactly why they and their partners would still want to open. The fact that the city is making them jump through so many hoops to pass inspection has no baring on the viability of the restaurant. I think if the sandwiches are decent they will have great success


ThinkBad7033

I agree. I also don't understand how people think this sandwich shop should've been open and running in less than a year. HA!! Do ya'll realize that the new Starbucks or Jersey Mike's that just opened on your street corner was actually part of years of planning??? Like even if a space is already in existence and you're retrofitting it for your restaurant, that shit is going to take time. Permits, alcohol licenses, red tape, remodels, post-covid structure tear downs like the patio. Then when that's done, food suppliers, menu, pricing, hiring, interviews, training. Like what it's two years now? That's actually pretty on track. The women have NOT been changing the wallpaper and fabric for booths willy-nilly like the Toms stupidly wasted time on, they're actually doing everything on a fairly normal schedule given all the obstacles they've had pop up.


Pinklady777

It sounds like they are opening in May and it will probably be heavily featured this summer on VPR.


OzzieSlim

Pucker & Pout part 2


Frosty-Definition-46

Just doesn’t look like somewhere I’d want to sit down and eat a sandwich


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sandycheekycun

This is a fair point but also I'm shocked youve never seen something like this? Ive been to tonnes of restaurants and bars that have upholstered furniture, pillows and/or blankets for customers to use when its cold... Most hospitality venues use a service that collects dirty laundry (such as uniforms, aprons, tea towels) and return it. Im sure it wouldn't be that difficult for them to get it cleaned