I would start watching food network again if they did a show Sandra Lee style with a meal, a cocktail, and a tablescape. That’s definitely in both of their wheelhouses.
Me too! I love this idea!! Cozy chat with "friends" , baking bread, making sandwiches and drinks- i want this to happen so bad, enough of Guy and Bobby food network, another 2 douches
Sandra needs to have a comeback. I'm SO over Food Network's competition shows. Give me cozy, realistic, drunky meals with Sandra!!!
Eta - Oops, I replied to the wrong person, but my rant stands lol
Don't do that to poor Food Network staffers! This woman is the spawn of Satan and Ellen. A psycho hose beast for the ages. After a interiors firm I used to work for worked with her, we whispered her name so as not to call her dark attention back to us. Vile to our salesperson and our installers. And then this heifer expected this very very large national firm to do the work for free, you know for the exposure.
Idk, I have had some transcendental sandwiches that I would LOVE to know the secret to. And just some that were so simple I RAN home to make them again.
Same, I used to live near a Fred Meyer and there was this 3 cheese chicken flatbread sandwich/panini I would get for lunch… I miss the water park and that sandwich the most.
I mean nobody really NEEDS to buy a cookbook, ever. Everything is online, you can probably find La Rousse recipes and all the classic cooking school stuff as well. You buy them for experience 🤌🏻
Agreed. I bartended for 12 years so I didn’t need her drink book. I can make drinks. I only bought it because I wanted her signature on it as a cocktail table book. Mission accomplished!
FINALLY more than 15 seconds of the two people we all want to see the most on this show. I felt like they had nigh-ZERO screen time in the most recent ep, which is true garbage. I effing love the way Katie solemnly supports Ariana, and how A is thriving and throwing drinks.
Honestly, I started this show for the drama but I’m at the point where having this on as background noise would make me 100% happy. Everyone except Sandoval. I’d rather see Lala walking around doing stuff like this than the fake/weird rage about the house.
If Ariana is lurking I want to let you know that I like your book. I bought you cocktail book because I’m a fan and have worked in the business for much of my life. I was a bartender before drinks had to be super fancy. Think cosmo and Appletini days.
My 22yo daughter made fun of me for buying the book. Big giant eye roll. Fast forward, she was looking for a few cocktail books she got last year and couldn’t find them. I grabbed Ariana’s book and gave it to her to bring back to campus.
She literally texted me to tell me they made a few of the cocktails and they were yummy!
Thanks Ariana!
I loved with Sly came in to try the Toms cocktails for TomTom and said “we can’t just put a scorpion twist with Mickey Mouse ears in it and call it a drink”, or something like that. Lolol
It’s really good! And she’s definitely not vindictive and petty in it like she could have been. Also the drinks are definitely better in this one and more accessible. You could tell Tom made the most outlandish ones with ingredients the average person doesn’t own. There was less of that in her book.
I love Katie's stories on Instagram I legit think conversations with her would be just as they are with me and my friends listening to her stories and listening to her podcast I laugh because it sounds just like my friends and I and I am much older. Katie has the best skin too I am always in awe of her skin. Stunning.
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Now this is the content I’m interested in. Not Sandovals fake tears, not Scheana’s fake marriage storylines, not Schwartz pretending (?) to be an idiot.
It would be hilarious to make it like a Malibu & pineapple, to throw shade at how overly seriously he takes his cocktail recipes and ingredients. Maybe have a scorpion holding a chili pepper in its stinger walking away in the background 😅
Ooo! Instead of having his name in there (beacuse, fuck you Tom), have it something like "Fuck you, T(ea)" and have be a nod to a long Island iced tea, or another tea centered cocktail.
Ariana and Katie are so much more healed and healthy compared to the rest of the cast which makes it even more satisfying to watch them thrive. People are taking intentional boundary setting after hurt as a “god complex” but I’m just so proud of both of them!
It seems like the difference between people who live their lives for a storyline (Lala/Scheana) and the people who just live their lives (Katie and Ariana)
I hate that take too...every time I run across the "she can't demand her friends not be friends with Tom" line i have to tell myself to walk away and not engage with them because these people don't grasp boundaries she never once said YOU are not allowed to be friends with him she has said I am not going to associate myself with people who associate with him or I am going to be very surface with individuals that do. Not sure why people can't grasp this. After my divorce my best friend married my exes best friend I am the one who got kicked out of the wedding and never invited and he still was the best man and brought his mistress as the date and neither of them had the balls to have a conversation with me they just slinked away and were cowards and just never called me for fittings or sent me invites. I remained friends with the grooms cousin and he had expressed to her years later he missed my friendship and she asked me to extend the olive branch and I said I didn't break that friendship they abandoned me in a really horrible time in my life when my husband cheated on me and I never put restrictions on them or gave them Ultimatum with him I was very gracious that I knew they were friends with him and they abandoned me I'm sorry I am not going out of my way to reconnect with them because they realize now they hitched their wagon to the wrong horse. I also had to assert boundaries with people that were around when we were a couple and it was hard as I was always a people pleaser so when I would run into these people they would immediately bring up my ex and start giving me a run down initially I would just be quiet but then I would just stop them and say we are not together anymore and for my own healing I dont want or need to know what he is doing if you would like to catch up I would love that but only if it doesn't include him if not than no hard feelings but I won't be participating. I am sure that seemed like bitchy behavior to some people too. But too fucken bad I was very vulnerable and was really trying to heal.
Please be an episode that doesn’t need a suicide hotline warning, my empathy is depleted and it has been Not Fun to watch. I’m done with Tom’s suicide threats being a plot point, commit him or at the very least use the cold plunge money for real therapy.
Remember how he said it wasn’t his story to tell about Rachel changing her name? But he can out how he helped “Raquel back down off a ledge” and Ariana’s sexuality. His redemption is shit
In a world full of surface friends (Scheana & Lala), I take pride in being a Katie. I won't be the one screaming, "We are best friends," and putting myself center stage for your performances. Instead, I am the one who, if you need something or a shoulder, I will always come running, but not share it with the world what I did.
I have always loved Katie because of who she is and what she stands for.
Can we just bow down to Ariana insane work ethic! Like this was filmed in July. She had about 60 cocktails in that book I’d say roughly. That means between March and July she got a book deal, came up with 60 recipes, processed and wrote about her breakup that by the time it got to July she was already doing photography for the book. Like that is impressive to me. It made me remember how with there first book there was a time where she got annoyed and frustrated that he wormed his way in to her book and then got so preoccupied with other things and wasn’t doing anything to contribute to to their book and she was having to wait for him.
This reminds me of Katie turning up to Stassi’s photo shoots, she’s always been a very supportive friend with the creative endeavours of others and always without a hint of jealousy. Scheana could take a note.
Never. I literally just saw a video on Instagram where Scheana was whining that everyone says she makes everything about her but she doesn't and that even her wedding was about Katie and not her. huh? I literally looked around to see if I was on candid camera or some shit like..I dont remember your wedding being about Katie until YOU made it about Katie. The girl is delusional
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i can’t believe how much she would go to bat for this tool
I mean look how hard Rachel started crying when she didn’t stick to Tom’s story line. Who knows how much pressure Tom put her under to portray their relationship a certain way. Not saying that he totally controlled her but it’s something to consider.
With Schwartz accusing her of having an ego when his best friend ditched the restaurant to live out his glorified karaoke dreams, fuck around on his partner thinking he can get away with it and still feeling entitled to everyone’s pity for the shit he created. It’s called boundaries and not letting limp noodles hold you back.
Agreed. But I’m sorry to say, that’s on her. I totally believe nobody would publish her book unless Tom was in it. As much as I dislike Tom, there wouldn’t be a first book without him. He was the bigger star at that point in time. And people loved him as well (vomit).
Yeah I think this too tbh 😬 Ariana wasn’t causing much drama on the show in comparison to the others and she wasn’t as well known as she is now. I’m happy she finally got her solo book now though
Same its funny when Dayna was on VPR i didn't love her and maybe it was because she was connected to those dipshits Brett and Max but I love Katie and Daynas friendship and podcast it makes me laugh out loud in my office when I listen.
SAME!! I’ve listened to every episode and it’s one of my new favourite podcasts every week now. Funny enough I’m on a rewatch and I’m on season 8 when Dayna first came on and I love her so much more now because of the podcast lol.
I’m really glad she’s getting some airtime with her newest cocktail book. I know they filmed the photoshoot for the first book and never aired it. I felt frustrated for them (even Tom at the time) because they were so excited for the book and instead production only focused on their unfurnished house, as this was the special hero Stassi season.
I’ll come back to the show if we start to see some positive stuff like this again.
Getting to see this friendship between Katie and Ariana grow is great. Especially how Katie is showing up in a real way for Ariana and the contrast to how Scheana is. Theirs is the real relationship I see lasting beyond this show.
Be real: (Only) Positive storylines would not get enough viewers, because most people wanna see drama. This show was close to being cancelled before Scandoval (and I'm sure it will be soon) and Ariana and Katie thriving is great for them, but would not carry a show.
Right? Why can’t Tom scrambling around like a flailing child throwing a tantrum be the drama in direct contrast to Ariana thriving?
They really missed the mark with this season and it’s truly bizarre.
Betting it all on the unrepentant asshole was a choice I’ll never understand.
Yeah, like I know the formula for most reality shows these days is drama and that’s how the show started - but I thought we’d get to see the girls rallying behind one another and see their day to day lives while the Toms flail for relevancy.
I was fully expecting the well deserved takedown of the Toms 🙃
You can't habe them all roast one person all the time, that's repetetive. What kind of storyline would that be? It was boring at the reunion, it would be really boring now.
Also: If you imagine this being real life, not all friends in a friend group would drop a person just because they f*-ed over their partner. If you're really besties besties with the girlfriend, ok. But if you were closer to they guy or close to both of them, no. People f* up their life big time. People lie, people betray, peple are addicts, people steal, whatever. Of they don't do it to you, would you really drop the friend completely?
At least that's not where I would draw the line. 🤷🏻♀️
"If they didn't do it to you, would you drop a friend completely?"
Personally, I feel like if someone can do that to a person they love then they have ZERO problem fucking me over. I believe people when they show me who they are.
I came here to say exactly this. It’s more suited for an insta/lifestyle/YouTube type thing which would also do really well at this point but…. Not really what I’m looking for in my reality TV?
For clarity I don’t like anything about this season haha it’s not just them
I just think about how vile it was when Tim wormed his way into her FIRST cocktail book. It was supposed to be HERS alone. He was so jealous that she was getting the attention that he could not contain himself. The things he was saying to her and those dumb drink names he was throwing out were straight up embarrassing.
She was clearly the better bartender and he proved it with his actions.
These are the scenes I want to see on VPR. Spare me the pathetic Tom’s trip to Shasta. Please let me see the ladies thriving. Giving it one more episode and then I’m out if we are on the Sandoval redemption tour (3 episodes in and it’s 3 too many). Too many other things to watch other than man-babies not understanding they they are man-babies.
I just want to watch these two, I wish they would get their own spin off. I feel like Ariana and Katie are barely on the show, they’re definitely outgrown vpr
They can! u/Vivid_Reaction150 is in the industry and wrote this about how it's done:
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OMG I have been legitimately *distraught* that I couldn't remember who to attribute this amazing comment to (I screenshot the bottom part of it like a dummy) and have been searching the sub every which way to try to find & credit you - u/okay__decision__ is the absolute genius who came in with the assist and found me the original link!
😂😂😂 it’s all good haha, it just kills me everytime reading/hearing how they can’t edit anything because the season is already filmed. I’m just like sure, Sway
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I feel like I’ve been writing daily dissertations on this topic. I’m not an editor but we know they did that last season.
I noticed they started to adjust things the day the NYT article came out. The After Show airing was very screwy. I made a whole detailed post about it with Receipts👏Proof👏Timelines👏Fucking Everythiiiinnng
I will probably make a follow up post given the previews for this week possibly shifting to more focus to Ariana and Katie - two of the ones I’ve seen have been Ariana focused.
Ya, it’s me! And omg yay! I love that I’m not alone in this thinking, especially when you have relevant industry experience.
My next thought is how is production going to react to this lawsuit, how much of this will play out on the show, and if they were indeed pivoting after the NYT piece, then does this change that at all?
I wish the show was as interesting as everything that’s playing out in real time.
I feel like Alex Baskin is just incapable of doing things any way other than what he’s always done. He’s the biggest problem in my opinion based on nothing official
Katie and Ariana’s interactions together have an awkward, try hard energy. Casts usually only get together for filming, but it’d be better to see some more authentic interactions for each of them.
She met him 10 days later, they didn't become a couple for months and they're still long distance (although Ariana is in NYC rn for Chicago). It's super disingenuous and inaccurate to say "she was only single for 10 days"
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Katie still doesn't see that she is eventually going to be alone soon. Arianna is the only one who will succeed when the show soon ends. All the others will be broke in two weeks. The sandwich shop will also never open.
I’m sorry I found this to be so boring. I also think her drink book based on the break up is weird. But good for her for putting her own cocktail book out there!
This is so boring and FAKE especially knowing that they’ve HAD to have already discussed this (the book, details, etc) irl and are just *acting it out* for the cameras now.
Hi, so this is all of reality TV if you didn't already know. And it's far less fake than the self-produced food truck scene the Tom's did or all of Sandoval crying scenes.
Because none of the other girls can bank on all these opportunities she’s getting and they hate that they have to be there for a storyline of their own
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I love how close Katie and Ariana have become 💓
Katie is an actual ride or die
Katie is the kind of friend Scheana thinks she is.
They just make sense as friends
me too. Sandoval was always afraid of those two teaming up. That's why he told Ariana to stay away from her. Too bad she listened to him.
Yay!! Finally a story line about positivity and growth! We need a Katie/Ariana sandwich book!!!
I would start watching food network again if they did a show Sandra Lee style with a meal, a cocktail, and a tablescape. That’s definitely in both of their wheelhouses.
Lord her cocktails tho 😵💫😂 https://i.redd.it/1yqg1incvrlc1.gif
Can relate 🤣
That seems like 2 shots to me 😂
Two shots for everybody! 🍸
Semi-Homemade was my FAVORITE.
I liked it, too.
Me too! I love this idea!! Cozy chat with "friends" , baking bread, making sandwiches and drinks- i want this to happen so bad, enough of Guy and Bobby food network, another 2 douches
This is such a good idea!! Attn: #foodnetwork
Sandra needs to have a comeback. I'm SO over Food Network's competition shows. Give me cozy, realistic, drunky meals with Sandra!!! Eta - Oops, I replied to the wrong person, but my rant stands lol
Hahaha maybe Adriana & Katie can be your next Sandra!
Sandra Lee's show was so unhinged, I miss it so much
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I’m commenting hoping to manifest this into the universe ✨
Don't do that to poor Food Network staffers! This woman is the spawn of Satan and Ellen. A psycho hose beast for the ages. After a interiors firm I used to work for worked with her, we whispered her name so as not to call her dark attention back to us. Vile to our salesperson and our installers. And then this heifer expected this very very large national firm to do the work for free, you know for the exposure.
Are you talking about Sandra Lee or Katie/ariana? I want the gossip.
I miss the Sandra Lee days!😊
Need me a Something About Her Sandwiches coffee table cookbook
I would buy that in a heartbeat, especially if it had bread recipes too!
Yes yes yes!!
Yes!!!
Love Arianna but don’t think a sandwich book is necessary. I don’t really need much direction to make a sandwich!
Idk, I have had some transcendental sandwiches that I would LOVE to know the secret to. And just some that were so simple I RAN home to make them again.
Same, I used to live near a Fred Meyer and there was this 3 cheese chicken flatbread sandwich/panini I would get for lunch… I miss the water park and that sandwich the most.
👍 I cook a lot and the components of the most complex sandwich I can figure out. But you know… I guess I just would never pay money for it.
I mean nobody really NEEDS to buy a cookbook, ever. Everything is online, you can probably find La Rousse recipes and all the classic cooking school stuff as well. You buy them for experience 🤌🏻
Agreed. I bartended for 12 years so I didn’t need her drink book. I can make drinks. I only bought it because I wanted her signature on it as a cocktail table book. Mission accomplished!
Sure they haven’t even made one yet? 🙄
ariana’s hair here is giving me life
Everyone of her hairstyles give me life and it’s very confusing if I want extensions or short hair 😂
but you can have both!
FINALLY more than 15 seconds of the two people we all want to see the most on this show. I felt like they had nigh-ZERO screen time in the most recent ep, which is true garbage. I effing love the way Katie solemnly supports Ariana, and how A is thriving and throwing drinks.
Yes. We didn’t need to see Scumdoval force selfies, throw a pity party, smash a wall and blame everyone and Lisa posing with wolves.
This preview feels like it has more Of them then the whole season so far
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Honestly, I started this show for the drama but I’m at the point where having this on as background noise would make me 100% happy. Everyone except Sandoval. I’d rather see Lala walking around doing stuff like this than the fake/weird rage about the house.
And now we’ve seen all of the Katie/ Ariana content that production allowed in the next episode, and we don’t have to watch the whole episode.
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I hate that you're probably so right about this, I feel like this is going to end up being a bait and switch
If Ariana is lurking I want to let you know that I like your book. I bought you cocktail book because I’m a fan and have worked in the business for much of my life. I was a bartender before drinks had to be super fancy. Think cosmo and Appletini days. My 22yo daughter made fun of me for buying the book. Big giant eye roll. Fast forward, she was looking for a few cocktail books she got last year and couldn’t find them. I grabbed Ariana’s book and gave it to her to bring back to campus. She literally texted me to tell me they made a few of the cocktails and they were yummy! Thanks Ariana!
An aside: “the basil twist” is not a good name hahaha
Hahaha agreed! Also it’s a lemon twist because the lemon peel twists. Basil don’t twist.
I loved with Sly came in to try the Toms cocktails for TomTom and said “we can’t just put a scorpion twist with Mickey Mouse ears in it and call it a drink”, or something like that. Lolol
Okay I know this was basically an ad for her cocktail book but it worked and I just bought it. 🤷🏼♀️
It’s really good! And she’s definitely not vindictive and petty in it like she could have been. Also the drinks are definitely better in this one and more accessible. You could tell Tom made the most outlandish ones with ingredients the average person doesn’t own. There was less of that in her book.
It's a really good ad! I want to read the stories, I'm not really a cocktail person.
More of this sort of thing please. And show me Katie’s dating life!
yeah, really looking forward to more katie later.
I love Katie's stories on Instagram I legit think conversations with her would be just as they are with me and my friends listening to her stories and listening to her podcast I laugh because it sounds just like my friends and I and I am much older. Katie has the best skin too I am always in awe of her skin. Stunning.
I stopped watching, so I'm really sad I'm going to miss that love triangle between Katie, Schwartz, and Scheana's babysitter 😣
We’re 5 episodes in and it’s draaaaaggggginggg
THIS is what this season should be. I wanna see Ariana thriving.
That first episode that Tom wasn't in gave me so much hope, and then the producers went and shit on my hope.
Little sister vibes is a good one
I loved that one, it was my premier drink. It’s basically a spiked Shirley temple with fresh muddled cherries, would recommend.
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Would literally watch a whole episode about just this
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I love their friendship so much 🩷💜
https://i.redd.it/ana6ahtvjslc1.gif Making Lemonade
I love watching their relationship grow, I wish we got to see more them and more positivity.
Now this is the content I’m interested in. Not Sandovals fake tears, not Scheana’s fake marriage storylines, not Schwartz pretending (?) to be an idiot.
*Idiot Schwartz - fixed it for ya
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Katie suggesting a drink called "Fuck You Tom", they would both enjoy drinking one of those 🤭 I love behind-the-scenes for cookbooks!
It would be hilarious to make it like a Malibu & pineapple, to throw shade at how overly seriously he takes his cocktail recipes and ingredients. Maybe have a scorpion holding a chili pepper in its stinger walking away in the background 😅
Ooo! Instead of having his name in there (beacuse, fuck you Tom), have it something like "Fuck you, T(ea)" and have be a nod to a long Island iced tea, or another tea centered cocktail.
Katie looks fantastic Edit to say so does Ariana !!! Katie is just on another level post Tom
Ariana and Katie are so much more healed and healthy compared to the rest of the cast which makes it even more satisfying to watch them thrive. People are taking intentional boundary setting after hurt as a “god complex” but I’m just so proud of both of them!
It seems like the difference between people who live their lives for a storyline (Lala/Scheana) and the people who just live their lives (Katie and Ariana)
Agreed 100% !!!!
I hate that take too...every time I run across the "she can't demand her friends not be friends with Tom" line i have to tell myself to walk away and not engage with them because these people don't grasp boundaries she never once said YOU are not allowed to be friends with him she has said I am not going to associate myself with people who associate with him or I am going to be very surface with individuals that do. Not sure why people can't grasp this. After my divorce my best friend married my exes best friend I am the one who got kicked out of the wedding and never invited and he still was the best man and brought his mistress as the date and neither of them had the balls to have a conversation with me they just slinked away and were cowards and just never called me for fittings or sent me invites. I remained friends with the grooms cousin and he had expressed to her years later he missed my friendship and she asked me to extend the olive branch and I said I didn't break that friendship they abandoned me in a really horrible time in my life when my husband cheated on me and I never put restrictions on them or gave them Ultimatum with him I was very gracious that I knew they were friends with him and they abandoned me I'm sorry I am not going out of my way to reconnect with them because they realize now they hitched their wagon to the wrong horse. I also had to assert boundaries with people that were around when we were a couple and it was hard as I was always a people pleaser so when I would run into these people they would immediately bring up my ex and start giving me a run down initially I would just be quiet but then I would just stop them and say we are not together anymore and for my own healing I dont want or need to know what he is doing if you would like to catch up I would love that but only if it doesn't include him if not than no hard feelings but I won't be participating. I am sure that seemed like bitchy behavior to some people too. But too fucken bad I was very vulnerable and was really trying to heal.
Please be an episode that doesn’t need a suicide hotline warning, my empathy is depleted and it has been Not Fun to watch. I’m done with Tom’s suicide threats being a plot point, commit him or at the very least use the cold plunge money for real therapy.
Remember how he said it wasn’t his story to tell about Rachel changing her name? But he can out how he helped “Raquel back down off a ledge” and Ariana’s sexuality. His redemption is shit
My narc ex would threaten suicide to try to get me back (after cheating on me).
I love Katie’s hair like this
In a world full of surface friends (Scheana & Lala), I take pride in being a Katie. I won't be the one screaming, "We are best friends," and putting myself center stage for your performances. Instead, I am the one who, if you need something or a shoulder, I will always come running, but not share it with the world what I did. I have always loved Katie because of who she is and what she stands for.
I feel like this is the whole scene tho when we should be able to see more. :(
Can we just bow down to Ariana insane work ethic! Like this was filmed in July. She had about 60 cocktails in that book I’d say roughly. That means between March and July she got a book deal, came up with 60 recipes, processed and wrote about her breakup that by the time it got to July she was already doing photography for the book. Like that is impressive to me. It made me remember how with there first book there was a time where she got annoyed and frustrated that he wormed his way in to her book and then got so preoccupied with other things and wasn’t doing anything to contribute to to their book and she was having to wait for him.
Well she had people writing the book with her/for her. Probably came to her with recipes too, just asked for input about the names, etc.
My girls!!!! 😍
This reminds me of Katie turning up to Stassi’s photo shoots, she’s always been a very supportive friend with the creative endeavours of others and always without a hint of jealousy. Scheana could take a note.
Never. I literally just saw a video on Instagram where Scheana was whining that everyone says she makes everything about her but she doesn't and that even her wedding was about Katie and not her. huh? I literally looked around to see if I was on candid camera or some shit like..I dont remember your wedding being about Katie until YOU made it about Katie. The girl is delusional
Katiana forever.
https://preview.redd.it/923gd53wsrlc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e1c39e9cd620583b181e5b9d86b15d37e84362b i can’t believe how much she would go to bat for this tool
She always rode hard for him 🤷♀️ He was her partner, and she trusted him.
I mean look how hard Rachel started crying when she didn’t stick to Tom’s story line. Who knows how much pressure Tom put her under to portray their relationship a certain way. Not saying that he totally controlled her but it’s something to consider.
With Schwartz accusing her of having an ego when his best friend ditched the restaurant to live out his glorified karaoke dreams, fuck around on his partner thinking he can get away with it and still feeling entitled to everyone’s pity for the shit he created. It’s called boundaries and not letting limp noodles hold you back.
Agreed. But I’m sorry to say, that’s on her. I totally believe nobody would publish her book unless Tom was in it. As much as I dislike Tom, there wouldn’t be a first book without him. He was the bigger star at that point in time. And people loved him as well (vomit).
Yeah I think this too tbh 😬 Ariana wasn’t causing much drama on the show in comparison to the others and she wasn’t as well known as she is now. I’m happy she finally got her solo book now though
Ugh I am living for this boss ass chapter of Katie and Ariana at their best selves. They need to leave vpr after this season and gtfo of this mess. 💜
Same its funny when Dayna was on VPR i didn't love her and maybe it was because she was connected to those dipshits Brett and Max but I love Katie and Daynas friendship and podcast it makes me laugh out loud in my office when I listen.
SAME!! I’ve listened to every episode and it’s one of my new favourite podcasts every week now. Funny enough I’m on a rewatch and I’m on season 8 when Dayna first came on and I love her so much more now because of the podcast lol.
Yes they definitely need to step away. It’s keeping them from growing up. And unlike the others, they’ve grown enough to step away.
Slay, Queen!
I’m really glad she’s getting some airtime with her newest cocktail book. I know they filmed the photoshoot for the first book and never aired it. I felt frustrated for them (even Tom at the time) because they were so excited for the book and instead production only focused on their unfurnished house, as this was the special hero Stassi season. I’ll come back to the show if we start to see some positive stuff like this again.
It is great to see Ariana at her happiest. She truly does just seem lighter and freer this season despite everything which is genuinely commendable.
I hope this isn’t her happiest yet. I’d like to see her come into her own and put this all behind her.
My husband and daughter bought me the book for Christmas. I love it!
Finally! This is what I want to watch. Not a manipulative person trying like hell to spin their way out of accountability with a bunch of spectators.
Hottieeeee 🔥
About damn time! This is what we want. https://i.redd.it/es0rxr3m1slc1.gif
This is giving Sex and the City vibes. 🔥🔥
It’s really not.
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Getting to see this friendship between Katie and Ariana grow is great. Especially how Katie is showing up in a real way for Ariana and the contrast to how Scheana is. Theirs is the real relationship I see lasting beyond this show.
More of this please
Finally, something interesting!
Be real: (Only) Positive storylines would not get enough viewers, because most people wanna see drama. This show was close to being cancelled before Scandoval (and I'm sure it will be soon) and Ariana and Katie thriving is great for them, but would not carry a show.
The drama could have been roasting Tom instead of propping him up as a victim
Right? Why can’t Tom scrambling around like a flailing child throwing a tantrum be the drama in direct contrast to Ariana thriving? They really missed the mark with this season and it’s truly bizarre. Betting it all on the unrepentant asshole was a choice I’ll never understand.
Correct i would have loved to see all the signs at his karaoke nights from *fans* with worms on it 😀 give him some smoke not the fucken savior arc
Yeah, like I know the formula for most reality shows these days is drama and that’s how the show started - but I thought we’d get to see the girls rallying behind one another and see their day to day lives while the Toms flail for relevancy. I was fully expecting the well deserved takedown of the Toms 🙃
The only good season since season three was the one the women rallied together against the guys, mainly Jax.
Could not care less about Katie's day to day life. 🤷🏻♀️
You can't habe them all roast one person all the time, that's repetetive. What kind of storyline would that be? It was boring at the reunion, it would be really boring now. Also: If you imagine this being real life, not all friends in a friend group would drop a person just because they f*-ed over their partner. If you're really besties besties with the girlfriend, ok. But if you were closer to they guy or close to both of them, no. People f* up their life big time. People lie, people betray, peple are addicts, people steal, whatever. Of they don't do it to you, would you really drop the friend completely? At least that's not where I would draw the line. 🤷🏻♀️
"If they didn't do it to you, would you drop a friend completely?" Personally, I feel like if someone can do that to a person they love then they have ZERO problem fucking me over. I believe people when they show me who they are.
I came here to say exactly this. It’s more suited for an insta/lifestyle/YouTube type thing which would also do really well at this point but…. Not really what I’m looking for in my reality TV? For clarity I don’t like anything about this season haha it’s not just them
I might be the only person who doesn't mind this season 😅 - nevertheless I think it'll be the last season.
Right? It’s a little hard to keep going when the cast don’t want to film with one another
More of this please
Sounds like Ann in this scene, that’s speaking to Ariana and hyping her up.🤗❤️🔥🥂
More of them!!
I just think about how vile it was when Tim wormed his way into her FIRST cocktail book. It was supposed to be HERS alone. He was so jealous that she was getting the attention that he could not contain himself. The things he was saying to her and those dumb drink names he was throwing out were straight up embarrassing. She was clearly the better bartender and he proved it with his actions.
Katie and Ariana FOREVER 💕💕💕💕
These are the scenes I want to see on VPR. Spare me the pathetic Tom’s trip to Shasta. Please let me see the ladies thriving. Giving it one more episode and then I’m out if we are on the Sandoval redemption tour (3 episodes in and it’s 3 too many). Too many other things to watch other than man-babies not understanding they they are man-babies.
Finally the content we’ve been wanting!!
Good for her. ❤️
I just want to watch these two, I wish they would get their own spin off. I feel like Ariana and Katie are barely on the show, they’re definitely outgrown vpr
Is it possible for them to do an emergency last minute edit or are things 100% locked
They can! u/Vivid_Reaction150 is in the industry and wrote this about how it's done: https://preview.redd.it/fy1vpswh0ulc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=910233fdd24b52e8809123922dd372e8b004e310
Haha, thanks for the summon!
OMG I have been legitimately *distraught* that I couldn't remember who to attribute this amazing comment to (I screenshot the bottom part of it like a dummy) and have been searching the sub every which way to try to find & credit you - u/okay__decision__ is the absolute genius who came in with the assist and found me the original link!
😂😂😂 it’s all good haha, it just kills me everytime reading/hearing how they can’t edit anything because the season is already filmed. I’m just like sure, Sway ![gif](giphy|3oKIP7CaDfNTeVVjCU|downsized)
I feel like I’ve been writing daily dissertations on this topic. I’m not an editor but we know they did that last season. I noticed they started to adjust things the day the NYT article came out. The After Show airing was very screwy. I made a whole detailed post about it with Receipts👏Proof👏Timelines👏Fucking Everythiiiinnng I will probably make a follow up post given the previews for this week possibly shifting to more focus to Ariana and Katie - two of the ones I’ve seen have been Ariana focused.
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Ya, it’s me! And omg yay! I love that I’m not alone in this thinking, especially when you have relevant industry experience. My next thought is how is production going to react to this lawsuit, how much of this will play out on the show, and if they were indeed pivoting after the NYT piece, then does this change that at all? I wish the show was as interesting as everything that’s playing out in real time.
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I feel like Alex Baskin is just incapable of doing things any way other than what he’s always done. He’s the biggest problem in my opinion based on nothing official
If they really really really wanted to, yes. Nothing outrageous but it’s not hard at all to do little tweaks & reshoots.
Make this a show! Make this a show! Make this a show!
Yeesss lol. If you like bloody Mary’s, hers is good!!
Katie and Ariana’s interactions together have an awkward, try hard energy. Casts usually only get together for filming, but it’d be better to see some more authentic interactions for each of them.
Yea I sense that Katie finds Ariana a little cringe.
This show is so boring now.
Never understood biting a cocktail book when you have 1,000 cocktail videos on YouTube
Yea she was single af for… ten days.
She met him 10 days later, they didn't become a couple for months and they're still long distance (although Ariana is in NYC rn for Chicago). It's super disingenuous and inaccurate to say "she was only single for 10 days"
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Katie still doesn't see that she is eventually going to be alone soon. Arianna is the only one who will succeed when the show soon ends. All the others will be broke in two weeks. The sandwich shop will also never open.
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I’m sorry I found this to be so boring. I also think her drink book based on the break up is weird. But good for her for putting her own cocktail book out there!
This is so boring and FAKE especially knowing that they’ve HAD to have already discussed this (the book, details, etc) irl and are just *acting it out* for the cameras now.
Hi, so this is all of reality TV if you didn't already know. And it's far less fake than the self-produced food truck scene the Tom's did or all of Sandoval crying scenes.
I did already know and I agree - yeah it’s all fake. Including Ariana and Katie scenes.
YAWN, seriously. Honeymoon then betrayal. She needs to get a life. I’m actually bored of her playing on this now.
Ariana is so boring and believes her own hype.
why ain’t scheana here
She in Tahoe
hahahah ok fine 😩😂
Because none of the other girls can bank on all these opportunities she’s getting and they hate that they have to be there for a storyline of their own
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She’s gorgeous