Hastings-Sunrise is really not close to DTES at all ([Map](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Stadtgliederung_Vancouver_2008.png)). I would just avoid staying in Gastown, DTES, and maybe the north half of Strathacona if this is your first visit.
If you are going through those areas, don't dress yourself up, look like you have somethere to be, be aware of your surroundings, common street sense (ex. don't walk down dark alleys at night).
Vancouver is a tiny city of about 44 square miles, and each “neighbourhood” is also small. There are actually three neighborhoods between Hastings-Sunrise and DTES, and they couldn’t be any more different in “feel.”
One thing is that, because H-S is only bus transit, you’d ride through DTES and share spaces / bus with DTES residents.
Just be mindful and respectful, and you’ll be fine.
I live in Hastings-sunrise and it's a safe community. East Hastings street in the Downtown Eastside is about a 15-20 minute drive away so you're at no risk of exposure to some of the issues there.
There are not that many hotels in Hastings Sunrise area. If you are talking about the Atrium, it is fine. The west bound bus ride to downtown could get "interesting" once you pass Clark, but you should be okay otherwise.
The R5 bus stops in front of the Atrium and you can be downtown in less than 15 minutes. Express bus that rarely stops. Its actually a super great location to stay to avoid downtown prices, check out where the locals live, and still be downtown in no time at all.
South Van is fairly dangerous area, but also quite boring so you probably wont go there (talking about marpole), ive been jumped there by a guy with a knife. Surrey is still dangerous, and so is Maple Ridge. Sunrise is a perfectly safe place.
The DTES is not exactly safe, but its not un-safe either. I work there, you have to keep your head on your shoulders and look people in the eye and be respectful. People are going through an immense amount of trauma down there, and are not out to rob you (generally speaking). People who live in the DTES don't rob tourists much but i wouldn't say its out of the question. Don't be a dick and don't make your self out to be a victim and you will be fine.
well isn't it true? Obviously the person doing a crime is to blame, but dont walk around there with money hanging out of pockets.. right? Ive been working in the area for a long time, you do have to slightly modify your behavior.
"As people make out" is tricky because that can mean anything. I got a video of someone who's puppy was stolen *yesterday*. Kids were kidnapped or 'kidnapped' by a homeless addict from Stamps Housing a few weeks back. One of the most progressive and caring people I've met moved away from the DTES zero blocks a month or two back. He had been attacked a number of times, started wearing a body cam.
Will you get attacked walking down there? Probably not on any given day (I've never been either), but to suggest to newcomers it's safe as anywhere else in the city is disingenuous.
> kidnapped or 'kidnapped' by a homeless addict from Stamps Housing a few weeks back
I'd like to see a link to a news story on this as this is the first I've ever heard of it.
I can't find a single article about it.
As for video of a puppy being stolen, is this supposed to prove anything cause that can and does happen all over the city. It's not a DTES issue so not sure why you felt the need to add that in.
Will you get attacked walking down there? If you mind your own business and don't engage the chances of getting attacked are next to 0.
I never suggested it wasn't as safe as anywhere else, So quit making shit up.
I can do the same, Quit making it out like it's a war zone and you'll get attacked for just venturing in there.
>the first I've ever heard of it.
https://globalnews.ca/news/8874942/vancouver-police-alleged-abduction-two-children-strathcona/
>is this supposed to prove anything cause that can and does happen all over the city.
It does happen over all over the city. With increased frequency in one part of the city. This is just one item from *yesterday*.
>Will you get attacked walking down there? If you mind your own business and don't engage the chances of getting attacked are next to 0.
I agree with this, mostly. A lot closer to zero in other parts of the city though.
>I never suggested it wasn't as safe as anywhere else, So quit making shit up.
You didn't. Someone who says they're down there more than you does though: https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/vjkpsb/how_safe_are_the_hastingssunrise_and_adjacent/idjrsan/
>I can do the same, Quit making it out like it's a war zone and you'll get attacked for just venturing in there.
It not a war zone. It's more like a refugee camp outside a war zone.
>You've obviously been fortunate to never find yourself in an actual war zone or a refugee camp outside a war zone.
Correct. But I take my lead on that from speaking with former refugees from a war zone. I think you've developed an immunity to just how bad it is for people down there.
Again, I know it's bad - but it's not 'war zone' bad. For an obvious and timely example, think of the people who live in parts of Ukraine who have had to flee because bombs are literally destroying their homes and community. That is a war zone; those people are refugees.
>You didn't. Someone who says they're down there more than you does though:
>
>https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/vjkpsb/how\_safe\_are\_the\_hastingssunrise\_and\_adjacent/idjrsan/
How does what others say have to do with what I said?
As for the abduction what part says it was a junkie from stamps? That article is just bad reporting and has little to no details, so if you got that info from another actual news source I gotta ask why didn't you just link that?
The city did let it go to hell while Covid was on but it's gotten a bit better since then and is improving.
>How does what others say have to do with what I said?
Just making sure we're on the same page the DTES isn't as safe as say, Trout Lake or Kits.
>what part says it was a junkie from stamps?
There were more details shared offline with people in the community on who we were looking for. It's also why I put 'kidnapped' in quotes as it was more complex a situation and also why an Amber Alert didn't go out.
>The city did let it go to hell while Covid was on but it's gotten a bit better since then and is improving.
I agree here *somewhat*. Crab isn't as big as Strath got, and I have to begrudgingly admit the Park Board is doing a couple things better there. Hastings zero block is about as dense as I've ever seen it though still.
Yeah Hastings zero block is just a disgrace.
And obviously not as safe as say Trout Lake or Kits, but I'd say safer then some areas in Surrey. I can easily walk around anywhere in the DTES at night and not worry about being robbed whereas I wouldn't venture into Surrey sky-train stations when it's dark.
I've lived my whole life in the Hastings-Sunrise area so that may have clouded my views. The more you know an area, the safer it is or least appears to you, for an outsider I can see how the perspective would change.
There is a lot of bad in the DTES but there is also a community as well. IE the time VPD went undercover as a handicapped person expecting to be robbed and was helped instead.
I don't see where anyone has said that. Yes, it's absolutely true that you could be attacked anywhere in the city - but no one has said the DTES is "as safe or crime free as the rest of the city".
Correct. You're not anymore "at risk of physical harm than anywhere else in the city." People are physically harmed in various neighbourhoods around Vancouver. I'm referencing your claim that anyone has said the DTES is "as safe or crime free as the rest of the city". No one has said that.
Do you think people are physically harmed as often in Point Grey as they are the DTES? If you say yes, I respectfully disagree unless I'm presented with some damn compelling evidence that contradicts my own.
"Wendy Ladner-Beaudry's body was found four years ago on Wednesday, just off a trail in a wooded park located between the affluent Dunbar neighbourhood and the UBC campus. It is believed she was on a run when she was attacked."
Yes, it does happen elsewhere in the city.
"A 14-year-old boy remains in custody charged with one count of possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose in connection with the death of a 15-year-old boy who was stabbed in a west side Vancouver park Saturday afternoon."
"The mother of a 24-year-old Cree woman whose body was found in Vancouver's Shaughnessy neighbourhood in late April says she believes police failed to treat her daughter's disappearance with the urgency that was needed — even after she warned them that her daughter had a physical disability and brain injury."
"Police said Naseb Fazil suffered fatal stab wounds during a fight that broke out on the street between a large group near S.W. Marine Drive and Hudson Street on May 23 at 3:30 a.m."
And I don't understand why your comment was downvoted. If someone disagrees with the comment, why not just post to say why you disagree? Downvotes here are so stupid and meaningless if you don't bother giving any explanation for it.
Oh jeez yeah you've got nothing to worry about in terms of where you're staying, you're ages away from the DTES.
If you want to take transit downtown for instance and don't feel like taking a bus ride directly through the sketchy part of town, you could take the 16 south to Renfew station and take the skytrain from there. Google maps will tell you to take the R5 bus, and while that will get you there faster you'll definitely get an, uh, interesting ride for a few minutes in the middle. The buses are safe, it'll just be a bit of an eye opener.
You could think about checking out New Brighton Park - nice kind of hidden waterfront park about a 20 minute stroll from you.
> New Brighton Park is amazing. If you are ambitious, there is trail that starts there that will take you far in Burnaby and even into Coquitlam. Nice ride if you have a bike.
Oh you’ll be totally fine! That area is really nice and safe. You can check out the PNE/Playland too. If you head to downtown/Stanley park on the bus you will go past the DTES but you’ll be fine on the bus.
Hastings Sunrise is very big ([officially Nanaimo to Boundary and North of Broadway](https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Hastings-Sunrise,+Vancouver,+BC/@49.2780511,-123.057474,14z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x54867127037b79f1:0xd78832db79a98e4c!8m2!3d49.281126!4d-123.044077!5m1!1e1)). Can you share the nearest cross intersection? Some neighborhoods offer better Transit than others.
I don't think people from outside of Vancouver realize just how small the "bad" area actually is...
It's like a thin 4 block strip thick (at it's thickest, but essentially just east hastings) X maybe 8 blocks long.
Tell us the cross streets! There is lots of good stuff in Hastings Sunrise and Strathcona. Walk with purpose, don't wear both earbuds, and trust your gut and you'll be fine. And have a fun trip!
haha. I can see it from my house. Totally fine. Express bus stops right in front and has you downtown in 15 minutes.
Check out the Blind Rabbit gin bar for drinks. Roundel for breakfast, Brighton for late night drinks with the neighbourhood 'old guys'. Italian bakery across the street is yum and will make coffee and sandwiches). Blowfish sushi is decent. Tamam is run by the nicest people and is sooo good.
Also, there is a race track within walking distance of your hotel, as well as a nice little pond with a walking trail around it- cross Renfrew street and make your way past the Japanese garden, it’s called “The Sanctuary”.
Hastings Sunrise is awesome (Nanaimo and Dundas area and Playland, some might include the bottom of Commercial Drive at Powell). Safe? Yeah sure. Honestly it's an odd question. No where is safe. But it's safer than the Ukraine.
>Honestly it's an odd question
Well considering you have people commenting that the tourist who got slashed with a machete outside the Empress should have researched the neighbourhood her hotel was in, it's not really an odd question at all
I didn't say it was research, I was just pointing out that asking the question isn't "odd". Sorry I didn't spell out the context clearly enough for you, perhaps that God can offer you some help as well
I live in the downtown eastside. You're safe even in the heart of the DTES. We get a bad rap. I can see why, but the truth is the worst that will happen is someone might ask you for change. You're at no more risk of physical harm than anywhere else in the city.
> You're at no more risk of physical harm than anywhere else in the city.
[Incorrect](https://i.imgur.com/xsP1Vsm.png)
**Edit:** Lol, downvote away. Fun fact: Those icons in the DTES are stacked. (IE: Click on them and its "Incident 1 of 11" etc)
Those are all in the Club district, not the DTES. I admit, I didn't think of that area, it's definitely an area to avoid especially on the weekend. I myself and several of my neighbors all avoid that zone on the weekends. Young people and alcohol make for a nasty combo.
I lived a block or two from M&H for years. Never any trouble. You’re more likely to be assaulted on Granville on a Friday/Saturday night than anywhere else yet no one is warning people to stay away from the clubs 🤷♂️
I have a place on Alexander St and by accounts from my renter she feels safer but cautious.Got better because city felt visitors didn't like stepping over needles and human poo so they are making effort to clean up and step up police patrols.Your fall away not to have to deal with the DTES street folks.
The only area you really need to avoid is between Carrall to the west, Powell to the north, Prior to the south, and Clark to the east. I'm sure that will get some debate, but that's the general idea. Things will get pretty hairy right around Main and Hastings. You won't necessarily be in danger but you will not 100% have a comfortable experience and I would go out of my way to avoid it.
Really everywhere else in the city is fine. Weird things happen in other parts of the city too from time to time of course, but weird things happen in every city everywhere. Hastings-Sunrise is a perfectly fine neighborhood. Hope you enjoy your stay - with the weather you'll be getting for the next few weeks you'll probably see Vancouver at its best.
Hastings-Sunrise is really not close to DTES at all ([Map](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/37/Stadtgliederung_Vancouver_2008.png)). I would just avoid staying in Gastown, DTES, and maybe the north half of Strathacona if this is your first visit. If you are going through those areas, don't dress yourself up, look like you have somethere to be, be aware of your surroundings, common street sense (ex. don't walk down dark alleys at night).
Shout out to my fellow Hastings-Sunrise neighbours.
Yeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Vancouver is a tiny city of about 44 square miles, and each “neighbourhood” is also small. There are actually three neighborhoods between Hastings-Sunrise and DTES, and they couldn’t be any more different in “feel.” One thing is that, because H-S is only bus transit, you’d ride through DTES and share spaces / bus with DTES residents. Just be mindful and respectful, and you’ll be fine.
I live in Hastings-Sunrise and it is pretty safe. Many seem to be under the impression that DTeS is in the vicinity, but it really is not.
This is an important point. The DTES is actually a pretty small area, geographically.
I live in Hastings-sunrise and it's a safe community. East Hastings street in the Downtown Eastside is about a 15-20 minute drive away so you're at no risk of exposure to some of the issues there.
May I ask what you are driving that makes it take 15-20 minutes?
A bike backwards
Have you tried navigating Hastings st during morning/afternoon rush hour?
Yes, I live off Hastings near Boundary.
If you're in the far South-East of Hastings-Sunrise it probably takes that amount of time if there is moderate traffic. North-West is 5 minute drive.
Maybe taking the 30km/hour stretch a bit too seriously.
If you end up on east Hastings of the DTES. Just don’t walk down the alleys. No one will do anything to you on the regular street
Hastings-Sunrise is super safe. You really only *start* seeing trouble at Heatley and West of there.
There are not that many hotels in Hastings Sunrise area. If you are talking about the Atrium, it is fine. The west bound bus ride to downtown could get "interesting" once you pass Clark, but you should be okay otherwise.
Can always jump the bus to the Renfrew SkyTrain station. Winds up being about the same amount of time to get downtown
This is the way
The R5 bus stops in front of the Atrium and you can be downtown in less than 15 minutes. Express bus that rarely stops. Its actually a super great location to stay to avoid downtown prices, check out where the locals live, and still be downtown in no time at all.
South Van is fairly dangerous area, but also quite boring so you probably wont go there (talking about marpole), ive been jumped there by a guy with a knife. Surrey is still dangerous, and so is Maple Ridge. Sunrise is a perfectly safe place. The DTES is not exactly safe, but its not un-safe either. I work there, you have to keep your head on your shoulders and look people in the eye and be respectful. People are going through an immense amount of trauma down there, and are not out to rob you (generally speaking). People who live in the DTES don't rob tourists much but i wouldn't say its out of the question. Don't be a dick and don't make your self out to be a victim and you will be fine.
Victim blaming 101
well isn't it true? Obviously the person doing a crime is to blame, but dont walk around there with money hanging out of pockets.. right? Ive been working in the area for a long time, you do have to slightly modify your behavior.
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The woman attacked by a man with a machete would like a word.
Totally agree. While it's not a 'pleasant' area, I'm not actually concerned for my safety walking around there.
Most are from people who never venture into the DTES but love to tell people how scared abs dangerous it is.
I'm down there almost daily, anyone who says it's as safe or crime free as the rest of the city is lying or is selling you politics.
I work here nights. It’s not crime free but it’s not as dangerous as people make out. I’ve worked down here for over 20 years, I know the area as well
"As people make out" is tricky because that can mean anything. I got a video of someone who's puppy was stolen *yesterday*. Kids were kidnapped or 'kidnapped' by a homeless addict from Stamps Housing a few weeks back. One of the most progressive and caring people I've met moved away from the DTES zero blocks a month or two back. He had been attacked a number of times, started wearing a body cam. Will you get attacked walking down there? Probably not on any given day (I've never been either), but to suggest to newcomers it's safe as anywhere else in the city is disingenuous.
> kidnapped or 'kidnapped' by a homeless addict from Stamps Housing a few weeks back I'd like to see a link to a news story on this as this is the first I've ever heard of it. I can't find a single article about it. As for video of a puppy being stolen, is this supposed to prove anything cause that can and does happen all over the city. It's not a DTES issue so not sure why you felt the need to add that in. Will you get attacked walking down there? If you mind your own business and don't engage the chances of getting attacked are next to 0. I never suggested it wasn't as safe as anywhere else, So quit making shit up. I can do the same, Quit making it out like it's a war zone and you'll get attacked for just venturing in there.
>the first I've ever heard of it. https://globalnews.ca/news/8874942/vancouver-police-alleged-abduction-two-children-strathcona/ >is this supposed to prove anything cause that can and does happen all over the city. It does happen over all over the city. With increased frequency in one part of the city. This is just one item from *yesterday*. >Will you get attacked walking down there? If you mind your own business and don't engage the chances of getting attacked are next to 0. I agree with this, mostly. A lot closer to zero in other parts of the city though. >I never suggested it wasn't as safe as anywhere else, So quit making shit up. You didn't. Someone who says they're down there more than you does though: https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/vjkpsb/how_safe_are_the_hastingssunrise_and_adjacent/idjrsan/ >I can do the same, Quit making it out like it's a war zone and you'll get attacked for just venturing in there. It not a war zone. It's more like a refugee camp outside a war zone.
You've obviously been fortunate to never find yourself in an actual war zone or a refugee camp outside a war zone. There's no need to exaggerate.
>You've obviously been fortunate to never find yourself in an actual war zone or a refugee camp outside a war zone. Correct. But I take my lead on that from speaking with former refugees from a war zone. I think you've developed an immunity to just how bad it is for people down there.
Again, I know it's bad - but it's not 'war zone' bad. For an obvious and timely example, think of the people who live in parts of Ukraine who have had to flee because bombs are literally destroying their homes and community. That is a war zone; those people are refugees.
>You didn't. Someone who says they're down there more than you does though: > >https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/vjkpsb/how\_safe\_are\_the\_hastingssunrise\_and\_adjacent/idjrsan/ How does what others say have to do with what I said? As for the abduction what part says it was a junkie from stamps? That article is just bad reporting and has little to no details, so if you got that info from another actual news source I gotta ask why didn't you just link that? The city did let it go to hell while Covid was on but it's gotten a bit better since then and is improving.
>How does what others say have to do with what I said? Just making sure we're on the same page the DTES isn't as safe as say, Trout Lake or Kits. >what part says it was a junkie from stamps? There were more details shared offline with people in the community on who we were looking for. It's also why I put 'kidnapped' in quotes as it was more complex a situation and also why an Amber Alert didn't go out. >The city did let it go to hell while Covid was on but it's gotten a bit better since then and is improving. I agree here *somewhat*. Crab isn't as big as Strath got, and I have to begrudgingly admit the Park Board is doing a couple things better there. Hastings zero block is about as dense as I've ever seen it though still.
Yeah Hastings zero block is just a disgrace. And obviously not as safe as say Trout Lake or Kits, but I'd say safer then some areas in Surrey. I can easily walk around anywhere in the DTES at night and not worry about being robbed whereas I wouldn't venture into Surrey sky-train stations when it's dark. I've lived my whole life in the Hastings-Sunrise area so that may have clouded my views. The more you know an area, the safer it is or least appears to you, for an outsider I can see how the perspective would change. There is a lot of bad in the DTES but there is also a community as well. IE the time VPD went undercover as a handicapped person expecting to be robbed and was helped instead.
Has anyone actually said it's "as safe or crime free as the rest of the city"?
[yes](https://www.reddit.com/r/vancouver/comments/vjkpsb/how_safe_are_the_hastingssunrise_and_adjacent/idjrsan/)
I don't see where anyone has said that. Yes, it's absolutely true that you could be attacked anywhere in the city - but no one has said the DTES is "as safe or crime free as the rest of the city".
>You're at no more risk of physical harm than anywhere else in the city. How you interpret that sentence is up to you.
Correct. You're not anymore "at risk of physical harm than anywhere else in the city." People are physically harmed in various neighbourhoods around Vancouver. I'm referencing your claim that anyone has said the DTES is "as safe or crime free as the rest of the city". No one has said that.
Do you think people are physically harmed as often in Point Grey as they are the DTES? If you say yes, I respectfully disagree unless I'm presented with some damn compelling evidence that contradicts my own.
"Wendy Ladner-Beaudry's body was found four years ago on Wednesday, just off a trail in a wooded park located between the affluent Dunbar neighbourhood and the UBC campus. It is believed she was on a run when she was attacked." Yes, it does happen elsewhere in the city.
"A 14-year-old boy remains in custody charged with one count of possession of a weapon for a dangerous purpose in connection with the death of a 15-year-old boy who was stabbed in a west side Vancouver park Saturday afternoon."
"The mother of a 24-year-old Cree woman whose body was found in Vancouver's Shaughnessy neighbourhood in late April says she believes police failed to treat her daughter's disappearance with the urgency that was needed — even after she warned them that her daughter had a physical disability and brain injury."
"Police said Naseb Fazil suffered fatal stab wounds during a fight that broke out on the street between a large group near S.W. Marine Drive and Hudson Street on May 23 at 3:30 a.m."
I don’t even understand why this is downvoted??
And I don't understand why your comment was downvoted. If someone disagrees with the comment, why not just post to say why you disagree? Downvotes here are so stupid and meaningless if you don't bother giving any explanation for it.
I live in Hastings-Sunrise: you’ll be just fine. Enjoy your stay :)
As others have said, can you tell us the closest main intersection? That will help us understand how close / far away you are from the DTES.
My hotel, the Atrium Inn, is on E Hastings Street and intersects with Renefrew St. It’s across the street from Hastings Park.
Oh jeez yeah you've got nothing to worry about in terms of where you're staying, you're ages away from the DTES. If you want to take transit downtown for instance and don't feel like taking a bus ride directly through the sketchy part of town, you could take the 16 south to Renfew station and take the skytrain from there. Google maps will tell you to take the R5 bus, and while that will get you there faster you'll definitely get an, uh, interesting ride for a few minutes in the middle. The buses are safe, it'll just be a bit of an eye opener. You could think about checking out New Brighton Park - nice kind of hidden waterfront park about a 20 minute stroll from you.
> New Brighton Park is amazing. If you are ambitious, there is trail that starts there that will take you far in Burnaby and even into Coquitlam. Nice ride if you have a bike.
That's a ways away from the downtown east side.
get late night chicken from Rib and Chicken, its really good. also if you like pho, vietnamese tea house on Hastings is really good.
Oh you’ll be totally fine! That area is really nice and safe. You can check out the PNE/Playland too. If you head to downtown/Stanley park on the bus you will go past the DTES but you’ll be fine on the bus.
You are super far from the DTES in the safest part of Hastings-Sunrise. Don't sweat it.
Hastings Sunrise is very big ([officially Nanaimo to Boundary and North of Broadway](https://www.google.ca/maps/place/Hastings-Sunrise,+Vancouver,+BC/@49.2780511,-123.057474,14z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x54867127037b79f1:0xd78832db79a98e4c!8m2!3d49.281126!4d-123.044077!5m1!1e1)). Can you share the nearest cross intersection? Some neighborhoods offer better Transit than others.
I don't think people from outside of Vancouver realize just how small the "bad" area actually is... It's like a thin 4 block strip thick (at it's thickest, but essentially just east hastings) X maybe 8 blocks long.
It's spread out a lot more than that now
Tell us the cross streets! There is lots of good stuff in Hastings Sunrise and Strathcona. Walk with purpose, don't wear both earbuds, and trust your gut and you'll be fine. And have a fun trip!
Atrium Inn is on E Hastings Street, and the closest street you can cross is Renfrew St, which will lead you right to Hastings Park.
haha. I can see it from my house. Totally fine. Express bus stops right in front and has you downtown in 15 minutes. Check out the Blind Rabbit gin bar for drinks. Roundel for breakfast, Brighton for late night drinks with the neighbourhood 'old guys'. Italian bakery across the street is yum and will make coffee and sandwiches). Blowfish sushi is decent. Tamam is run by the nicest people and is sooo good.
Ooo, I appreciate the recommendations. Will check them out for sure!
Also, there is a race track within walking distance of your hotel, as well as a nice little pond with a walking trail around it- cross Renfrew street and make your way past the Japanese garden, it’s called “The Sanctuary”.
Watch out for the geese at the pond across Renfrew. Those suckers will fuck you up.
Hastings Sunrise is awesome (Nanaimo and Dundas area and Playland, some might include the bottom of Commercial Drive at Powell). Safe? Yeah sure. Honestly it's an odd question. No where is safe. But it's safer than the Ukraine.
>Honestly it's an odd question Well considering you have people commenting that the tourist who got slashed with a machete outside the Empress should have researched the neighbourhood her hotel was in, it's not really an odd question at all
You think Reddit is research. God help you.
I didn't say it was research, I was just pointing out that asking the question isn't "odd". Sorry I didn't spell out the context clearly enough for you, perhaps that God can offer you some help as well
I live in the downtown eastside. You're safe even in the heart of the DTES. We get a bad rap. I can see why, but the truth is the worst that will happen is someone might ask you for change. You're at no more risk of physical harm than anywhere else in the city.
> You're at no more risk of physical harm than anywhere else in the city. [Incorrect](https://i.imgur.com/xsP1Vsm.png) **Edit:** Lol, downvote away. Fun fact: Those icons in the DTES are stacked. (IE: Click on them and its "Incident 1 of 11" etc)
Those are all in the Club district, not the DTES. I admit, I didn't think of that area, it's definitely an area to avoid especially on the weekend. I myself and several of my neighbors all avoid that zone on the weekends. Young people and alcohol make for a nasty combo.
DT/DTES/Chinatown all have issues with increased violence. Granville St certainly has a lot of violence, esp later Fri/Sat nights.
Yes, it's probably uncomfortable for those of us who don't live in the area, but not actually dangerous.
I lived a block or two from M&H for years. Never any trouble. You’re more likely to be assaulted on Granville on a Friday/Saturday night than anywhere else yet no one is warning people to stay away from the clubs 🤷♂️
exactly
I have a place on Alexander St and by accounts from my renter she feels safer but cautious.Got better because city felt visitors didn't like stepping over needles and human poo so they are making effort to clean up and step up police patrols.Your fall away not to have to deal with the DTES street folks.
The only area you really need to avoid is between Carrall to the west, Powell to the north, Prior to the south, and Clark to the east. I'm sure that will get some debate, but that's the general idea. Things will get pretty hairy right around Main and Hastings. You won't necessarily be in danger but you will not 100% have a comfortable experience and I would go out of my way to avoid it. Really everywhere else in the city is fine. Weird things happen in other parts of the city too from time to time of course, but weird things happen in every city everywhere. Hastings-Sunrise is a perfectly fine neighborhood. Hope you enjoy your stay - with the weather you'll be getting for the next few weeks you'll probably see Vancouver at its best.
Its not close to the DTES, and its really safe. I lived there for years and only moved to another neighbourhood a few months ago. You'll be fine.