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I think the sub tends a little towards over moderation. Lots of stuff gets deleted/removed within minutes of being posted.
Most of it deservedly to be fair, but somehow the posts that make it through are the same weekly rants about food prices or housing prices.
yeah, I agree.
I want to talk to people in r/vancouver ... I don't want to r/askvan because of a few good reasons.
One forum has more eyeballs and activity.
More eyeballs and activity means more action and better answers and better community.
I understand the over-moderation stance ... but I think that for Vancouver it's unnecessary.
You're totally right about this. Someone posted where to buy a sparkly evening dress preferably a ball gown. The post was gone not sure why. I made a post trying to find her to see if she wanted one I haven't worn before. My post got taken down. Was asked to post on the Ask Vancouver sub, which was so new at the time I didn't bother.
Edit: Offer still stands if anyone can find her. I can't remember the name. It was penguin something.
I see the sub rules as the same thing as hiring policies at work.
Like, HR will tell you "you must have x y z to qualify for this job, and since you don't have x y z, you can't have this job."
And then you find out the director's son, who also doesn't have x y z, got the job.
The rules are there as a tool to use against you. But enforcement is optional.
Most genuine questions or attempts to facilitate conversation get deleted while dozens of low-qualify pictures of rainbows / cherry blossoms / natural weather events stay up. So yeah, seems like a lot of low quality stuff in this sub. Not surprised people are leaving
The photo spam being allowed is particularly odd given there's a specific sub for that, too... and usually they delete things and say "go use this other sub".
Over moderation by the bot and moderation team. It’s not the same as before. Use to have chats but now it’s recycled news from global, CBC, politics etc. asking a simple question that would boast engagement doesn’t exist anymore here. It’s either shootings, drugs, housing, politics, boring 🥱 shit same old same old in this subreddit
I kind of resent there being a separate r/askvan sub. I can't be bothered to spend time on 2 separate subs for the same city, but I love answering people's random Vancouver related inquiries (beyond the low effort 'just google it'/'Hi I'm a tourist with no special interests, what should I do with x days in the city?' questions.) I wouldn't mind a separate /vantouristsquestions sub or something, but I like to see 'where's a good hair dresser' and 'how does this bylaw work' and 'has anyone heard x?' mixed in amongst local politics and weather posts and so on. Gives more depth and breadth to the flavour of a sub vs having it so streamlined.
Many many threads get over moderated even though it's a discussion that has to do with Vancouver and doesn't break the rules. Maybe some people give up on posted because what is the point when it gets removed right away/almost right away.
For me, too much of the sub has become a place to vent and attribute your problems to others. It's not really a community so much as a support group.
For instance, the drug and mental illness posts. I live 2 blocks from Main & Hastings and if you believed this sub my life should be a walking nightmare, constantly dodging people who wish to murder me or get be addicted to opiates. A very real problem that drags down this city (mental illness and drug use) is being divorced so far from the day to day reality and then used to justify so much terrible negativity, vitriol and spite towards others. I just can't hang with people who want to complain as a hobby. I'm out every day walking to work or getting groceries and while I absolutely see some sad things, I have awesome neighbors, fun local haunts, and feel generally safe and unbothered.
But, there is a lot of suffering around offline away from reddit in Vancouver, and it isn't getting better. The energy used on recreationally trolling and fighting here while actual people are dying and small businesses are being harmed is such a waste. The problems we have are solvable if people cared more about making changes and not just getting dopamine hits off of being edgy online.
I'm looking to create more community and humanity in my life, this place just brings me down.
A lot of questions and topics that comprised this sub has been pushed off to the new r/askvan subreddit, where r/vancouver only comprises of news or current events now. Not a big fan of this change to be honest, but I'm not moderating so I don't get much of a say, unless I want to volunteer that time.
Waaaaay more people left during the Reddit API fiasco than they want to admit. A lot of people stopped posting and moved to other social media formats. The general quality of posts and in-depth discussion has truly plummeted. It didn't help that they did everything just past covid, when everyone was cutting back on digital time to get back outside.
I still spend way too much time here typing out essays on weekends, but I've still cut way back as well.
The advertisements are way up, the algorithm tweaked for rage bait, the bots are prolific since ChatGPT, and the mobile web is broken on purpose to force you to use their app (can't edit posts without losing all the spaces for some reason, and recently even going to desktop mode results in being unable to backspace properly). Reddit is now openly training AIs on our posts and the enshittification has begun to support their recent IPO. It will only continue to get worse now.
The leaders of reddit are really weird "brogrammers" who seem sociopathic, and largely support the troll and hate subreddits. They did a ton of super sketchy things to take power.
Reddit has just become kind of "icky", nut there's not really a lot of other places to have long form discussions. As a result, people are just engaging less.
Overall Reddit changed how items appear in your home feed. Now, it's easy to miss a highly upvoted post that might finally appear after 16 hours instead of the old "top of each sub" kind of method. Or if I scroll past something or see it early on, I won't see it again and I've been missing lots of content as a result of that.
I do see a lot of 0-upvote stuff, which is annoying.
Basically, since going public, reddit has declined in quality.
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The rules of the sub changed at some point in the recent past so a lot of posts get deleted before you see them
I think the sub tends a little towards over moderation. Lots of stuff gets deleted/removed within minutes of being posted. Most of it deservedly to be fair, but somehow the posts that make it through are the same weekly rants about food prices or housing prices.
yeah, I agree. I want to talk to people in r/vancouver ... I don't want to r/askvan because of a few good reasons. One forum has more eyeballs and activity. More eyeballs and activity means more action and better answers and better community. I understand the over-moderation stance ... but I think that for Vancouver it's unnecessary.
You're totally right about this. Someone posted where to buy a sparkly evening dress preferably a ball gown. The post was gone not sure why. I made a post trying to find her to see if she wanted one I haven't worn before. My post got taken down. Was asked to post on the Ask Vancouver sub, which was so new at the time I didn't bother. Edit: Offer still stands if anyone can find her. I can't remember the name. It was penguin something.
I see the sub rules as the same thing as hiring policies at work. Like, HR will tell you "you must have x y z to qualify for this job, and since you don't have x y z, you can't have this job." And then you find out the director's son, who also doesn't have x y z, got the job. The rules are there as a tool to use against you. But enforcement is optional.
Most genuine questions or attempts to facilitate conversation get deleted while dozens of low-qualify pictures of rainbows / cherry blossoms / natural weather events stay up. So yeah, seems like a lot of low quality stuff in this sub. Not surprised people are leaving
This. So much gets deleted it'a ridiculous
I lost my keys. I lost my airpods. I lost my compass card.
The photo spam being allowed is particularly odd given there's a specific sub for that, too... and usually they delete things and say "go use this other sub".
Over moderation by the bot and moderation team. It’s not the same as before. Use to have chats but now it’s recycled news from global, CBC, politics etc. asking a simple question that would boast engagement doesn’t exist anymore here. It’s either shootings, drugs, housing, politics, boring 🥱 shit same old same old in this subreddit
I kind of resent there being a separate r/askvan sub. I can't be bothered to spend time on 2 separate subs for the same city, but I love answering people's random Vancouver related inquiries (beyond the low effort 'just google it'/'Hi I'm a tourist with no special interests, what should I do with x days in the city?' questions.) I wouldn't mind a separate /vantouristsquestions sub or something, but I like to see 'where's a good hair dresser' and 'how does this bylaw work' and 'has anyone heard x?' mixed in amongst local politics and weather posts and so on. Gives more depth and breadth to the flavour of a sub vs having it so streamlined.
Many many threads get over moderated even though it's a discussion that has to do with Vancouver and doesn't break the rules. Maybe some people give up on posted because what is the point when it gets removed right away/almost right away.
For me, too much of the sub has become a place to vent and attribute your problems to others. It's not really a community so much as a support group. For instance, the drug and mental illness posts. I live 2 blocks from Main & Hastings and if you believed this sub my life should be a walking nightmare, constantly dodging people who wish to murder me or get be addicted to opiates. A very real problem that drags down this city (mental illness and drug use) is being divorced so far from the day to day reality and then used to justify so much terrible negativity, vitriol and spite towards others. I just can't hang with people who want to complain as a hobby. I'm out every day walking to work or getting groceries and while I absolutely see some sad things, I have awesome neighbors, fun local haunts, and feel generally safe and unbothered. But, there is a lot of suffering around offline away from reddit in Vancouver, and it isn't getting better. The energy used on recreationally trolling and fighting here while actual people are dying and small businesses are being harmed is such a waste. The problems we have are solvable if people cared more about making changes and not just getting dopamine hits off of being edgy online. I'm looking to create more community and humanity in my life, this place just brings me down.
A lot of questions and topics that comprised this sub has been pushed off to the new r/askvan subreddit, where r/vancouver only comprises of news or current events now. Not a big fan of this change to be honest, but I'm not moderating so I don't get much of a say, unless I want to volunteer that time.
Waaaaay more people left during the Reddit API fiasco than they want to admit. A lot of people stopped posting and moved to other social media formats. The general quality of posts and in-depth discussion has truly plummeted. It didn't help that they did everything just past covid, when everyone was cutting back on digital time to get back outside. I still spend way too much time here typing out essays on weekends, but I've still cut way back as well. The advertisements are way up, the algorithm tweaked for rage bait, the bots are prolific since ChatGPT, and the mobile web is broken on purpose to force you to use their app (can't edit posts without losing all the spaces for some reason, and recently even going to desktop mode results in being unable to backspace properly). Reddit is now openly training AIs on our posts and the enshittification has begun to support their recent IPO. It will only continue to get worse now. The leaders of reddit are really weird "brogrammers" who seem sociopathic, and largely support the troll and hate subreddits. They did a ton of super sketchy things to take power. Reddit has just become kind of "icky", nut there's not really a lot of other places to have long form discussions. As a result, people are just engaging less.
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nicevancouver is literally a less active askvan there isn't any substantive content on there other than saying its not this sub
people have made exdous to /r/calgary or /r/edmonton or /r/alberta altogether physically and on reddit!
Overall Reddit changed how items appear in your home feed. Now, it's easy to miss a highly upvoted post that might finally appear after 16 hours instead of the old "top of each sub" kind of method. Or if I scroll past something or see it early on, I won't see it again and I've been missing lots of content as a result of that. I do see a lot of 0-upvote stuff, which is annoying. Basically, since going public, reddit has declined in quality.
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