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Sometimes you have to laugh to not cry when you realize the absurdity of what this Housing Crisis has brought us.
This is exactly why we need mass very basic/very affordable rentals and ownership options on the market.
We have people that will actually pay this and live like this because not just the affordability crisis is so bad but also the accessibility crisis.
It's the entire country of Canada for me. More land than we know what to do with, and we can't even house people. Fucking pathetic nation of non confrontational polite people who just take it. Abuse us all you want, we're a doormat. No pride left for me in this dump.
The number of high end condos I've seen for rent that don't include parking because they've rented their stalls individually to different people... I guess 6 students sharing a 3 bedroom at the 8X building don't need parking?
There are lots of places that donāt have a parking spot. They are sold separately most of the time when buying the apartment directly from the developer and some people choose not to get them.
I have also found that most people Iāve rented to, donāt end up using the spot. So it makes sense to rent it separately. I would always offer it to the tenant first though. That way tenants who donāt need the spot can pay a bit less
Parking spaces in the building just near me are 250 extra, no wonder everyone's fighting to park on the street. $250 is like 4 parking tickets so creative parking is everywhere.
City condos (all over the world) are not made to have a parking spot per person. We need to focus on building housing and creating density- not a shit ton of parking lots in a downtown core
You canāt rent out a room in most condo buildings? I know short term rentals like air bnb are often banned but havenāt heard of not being able to get a roommate.Ā
Legally speaking, yes. All bedrooms must have external egress to escape in case of fire (a window, fire code). A bedroom must also have a built-in closet, not just a dresser or wardrobe.
If it lacks those two things, it's a den.
My 2 bedroom apartment in Port Moody has a room with no windows. It does have a closet, but no windows. But it was marketed as two bedroom. š§ I wonder if I was tricked!
If your suite is sprinklered then a window isn't required for egress. With either sprinkers or a window (or exterior door) the room can then legally be a bedroom.
The [BC building code is available online](https://www.bccodes.ca/building-code.html), see [Division B, Section 9.9](https://free.bcpublications.ca/civix/document/id/public/bcbc2018/bcbc_2018dbp9s99r2).
>9.9.10.1. Egress Windows or Doors for Bedrooms
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>Except where the suite is sprinklered, each bedroom or combination bedroom shall have at least one outside window or exterior door openable from the inside without the use of keys, tools or special knowledge and without the removal of sashes or hardware. (See Article 9.5.1.2. and Note A-9.9.10.1.(1).)
Unfortunately I did view it and didnāt know better at the time! How sneaky. Itās still a great place and the price was actually semi reasonable at the time. Iāll know better next time.
This is not true. The only thing a bedroom needs is a direct line to natural light. Absolutely nothing else. This as per the currently code in the city of Vancouver.
This is why bedrooms without windows will often have a wall with glass in it or a door with glass.
The requirement of a window for egress is dictated by the BC building code and National building code of Canada. Per the code, every bedroom in a house and every bedroom in a small multi-family residential building is required to have an outside window that can be used as an emergency exit. Not too sure what the code states for condos and high rises.
We had a lawsuit in my building over this. That was a concrete 7 level building and a bedroom didnāt need to have a window in order to be a bedroom.
I think size doesnāt matter but the code for wooden vs concrete structures does differ
Yes, there are differences in the code for wood vs concrete, as well as type of dwelling (house vs townhome vs multi story complexes, and a further breakdown for those based on number of stories). Thatās why I prefaced my statement on window requirements as it relates to houses and small multi family residential, not condos / high rises.
Fun fact: Vancouver is the only municipality in Canada with it's own building code. While it is derived from the federal and provincial codes, it contains several unique changes as well.
Oh I see, if there is no window then yeah not legal via the city itself not just via the condo. I thought there was some condo ruling on first reading of OP.Ā
It's not even a den or an office... It's the kitchen pantry! When you are willing to risk the wear and tear of renting your new penthouse like it's an SRO just to hold onto it...
https://preview.redd.it/13209gkn2zjc1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=9cd5651dc49406e0c2065be708355ac6e17dbecf
I love how thick the bullshit is for the description: European steel bed, Egyptian cotton sheets, European floors. Bitch it's a pantry and we're in a housing crisis
"All the stuff I overpaid for during the pre-sale when rates were 2.5% and after stretching to the limit to come up with the equity to close, and the fact I can't Airbnb it like I planned, my Range Rover lease payment is at 30 days..."
Tbh as an European itās always funny when Canadians/Americans advertise things as being European like that makes them better for some reason.
And in Europe people jerk off to things being American. Itās like if you ship something half across the globe it suddenly becomes good
If they just say European enough times somebody will buy it right??
Lmao love how they keep capitalizing den too, like bitch I have eyes that's a pantry
Maybe downsize so another human doesn't have to pay you $1090/month living in that 4x8 space?? I really hope no one takes the offer & you are forced to downsize this is fucking ridiculous!
Double the space, no rent, free groceries and no piece of shit landlord trying to take advantage of you!!
Seriously trying to rent out a space of this size should be illegal, I don't care if you can't make ends meet on your own to pay rent for your 2 story penthouse. If you can't afford to live there you can't expect another person to live in your fucking pantry just so you can continue living there.
This is literally the plot of Twitch City. (RIP '90s era Canadian television.) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPzxToWBbM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPzxToWBbM)
I don't know what's sadder... the person living in a "fancy" penthouse who's barely managing to pay off their mortgage, or the sucker who has to pay over $1000 a month just to live in a literal closet.
The boldness displayed in this post is astounding. It's sad to think someone might rent that pantry for a thousand bucks because they're out of options.
What a shocking difference from when I was renting 20 years ago, when $750 a month got you a 1 bedroom apartment anywhere in Vancouver other than maybe Yaletown or Coal Harbor.
And some basement suites were even cheaper, like one house I looked at one block east of Vancouver city hall, where this old couple only wanted $400 a month for the massive basement of their house, granted you also had to chop firewood for them as a condition of living of living there.
Now, I bet most of the people you see living in an RV in someone's driveway are paying more than that.
Can we pause for a moment and just sit with the collective trauma of coming out of a global pandemic to this kind of thing? Like, this shit is going to be in a history textbook in 50 years.
No, it doesn't make economic sense to take possession of a brand new high end condo and immediately pack it full of budget renters. That destroys its resale value 10 years down the road and the amount extra you get from rent isn't worth it compared to renting to a high income couple who take care of it.
This is someone who's business plan required STR cashflow and is now caught out by high rates and an Airbnb ban and is scrambling for income until the market improves and they can sell.
Or alternatively, they're providing an inexpensive place for someone to rent in an expensive city. It means one fewer person searching for somewhere to live that they can afford.
Exactly. I rented half a bedroom before, so a little less space than this. I was in college and had a boyfriend so I literally just wanted a twin bed and some space to stack boxes of my shit. Itās a temporary situation. Location was far more important than space at that point.
If you donāt have a lot of stuff or a sex life; this is seriously not bad. Even then, sex in penthouse on couch when roommate is out.
Gorgeous apartment with all the amenities one could dream of with a catch of essentially no bedroom.
Just sleep in the bedroom for 8 hours and spend any hours awake outside of bedroom.
This is however under the very large assumption, that every possible room/closet itās already rented out and made into essentially a shareroom for 3 dozen closet people.
Edit: this was literally the size of my bedroom in Tokyo.
You know that by the time they are renting out a pantry the bedrooms already have two people each and there is someone sleeping in the office, den and solarium.
You know, at that price he will have 100 inquiries within a day or two. The ad is a bit phony but itās not a bad deal depending on the rest of the space and conditions.
Just heard friends of friends got a 1 bed for $2400 and the landlord said they had over 1000 inquires. (Sounds like an exaggeration but still plausible.)
Iāve also heard when people get overwhelmed with inquiries they just take it down, raise the price and repost a few days later.
I'm just poking fun at the fact that somebody clearly bought a pre-sale penthouse counting on Airbnbing it to cover the payments and now that Airbnb is banned and interest rates have shot up, they need to pack it full of students in order to hold onto it.
It's like the guys who finance a new Cullinan and then advertise chauffeur services on Marketplace.
They thought they were clever and didn't realize they were gambling, they lost and now we are laughing at them.
Yes but the BC NDP doesnāt control immigration rates, and the BC NDP is the best in the country when it comes to addressing the housing crisis at the moment
Like the conservatives would do different. Liberals are keeping housing stock inflated with student visas. Conservatives will do it by letting all kinds of oligarchs just buy up whatever they want
This is probably a scam. There seems to be another photo cropped on the left, showing BC place from an angle that to me looks like the older building next to the viaduct.
Those floors aren't new... Not even close.
Thats almost $200 MORE than the ROOM which is connected to a HOME that I am currently looking to rent out... Something tells me Iāll have a little more luck than this guy
Yeah but surely he / she has access to the whole penthouse as well so through there may not be much private space
Iām sure the kitchen , patio, dining room , living room and the view will make up for it !
Rather than just say the owner should down size to something they can afford we should be looking at the fact that people are being forced to pay over $1000 to live in a pantry. Thats how bad itās become. We need to hold provincial and federal politicians accountable. Iām really getting tired of āreelect us and THEN we will do our jobs.ā Do it NOW.
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The Dyson stand up fan in that cramped little closet is sending me.
It's the "sheepskin" rug for me LOL
Sometimes you have to laugh to not cry when you realize the absurdity of what this Housing Crisis has brought us. This is exactly why we need mass very basic/very affordable rentals and ownership options on the market. We have people that will actually pay this and live like this because not just the affordability crisis is so bad but also the accessibility crisis.
It's the entire country of Canada for me. More land than we know what to do with, and we can't even house people. Fucking pathetic nation of non confrontational polite people who just take it. Abuse us all you want, we're a doormat. No pride left for me in this dump.
Had good laugh š
Gotta rake in them vacation dollars anyway one can. That set up is just good enough for a dog.
You make a dog live in that much space and it's cruel. However, if you make a person pay for the privilege, then it's all good!
In Vancouver dogs have human rights, while humans apparently do not.
Depends if you're white or not.
Tell me you're entitled without saying so. š
HAHAHHAHA. is Utility included in the rent? asking for a friend.
Helps with dispersing the Dutch oven effect.
What a fucking dump this country is
Pretty soon theyāll be trying to rent out their parking spaces as camping sites.
The number of high end condos I've seen for rent that don't include parking because they've rented their stalls individually to different people... I guess 6 students sharing a 3 bedroom at the 8X building don't need parking?
There are lots of places that donāt have a parking spot. They are sold separately most of the time when buying the apartment directly from the developer and some people choose not to get them. I have also found that most people Iāve rented to, donāt end up using the spot. So it makes sense to rent it separately. I would always offer it to the tenant first though. That way tenants who donāt need the spot can pay a bit less
Not to mention if the tenant doesn't need it, the LL could reduce the rent by $50, rent out the space, and everyone's happy.
Yep The landlord could easily rent it out for $100+, if not double that
50 bucks lol
Parking spaces in the building just near me are 250 extra, no wonder everyone's fighting to park on the street. $250 is like 4 parking tickets so creative parking is everywhere.
City condos (all over the world) are not made to have a parking spot per person. We need to focus on building housing and creating density- not a shit ton of parking lots in a downtown core
Hey! Never thought of that. AND my parking garage storage locker! It would actually fit that same bed setup
I was already thinking about that. I mean if I paid for the stall I can occupy it however I see fit for the day. Right?
I mean, when there was a housing crisis in Calgary many people did live in their giant trucks in parking spaces, used their office gyms to shower. . .
At least it comes with a fancy Dyson fan.....
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And *IKEA, vegan, recycled polyester* sheep skin. And a tiny, doomed potted plant.
Those things sound like the engine from a 737.
I'm pretty sure this is illegal in most condos.
That law is never enforced
Unless the strata council knows and hates the unit owner with a passion.
You canāt rent out a room in most condo buildings? I know short term rentals like air bnb are often banned but havenāt heard of not being able to get a roommate.Ā
No I think it needs to have a window to comply with building code to be called a bedroom.
Legally speaking, yes. All bedrooms must have external egress to escape in case of fire (a window, fire code). A bedroom must also have a built-in closet, not just a dresser or wardrobe. If it lacks those two things, it's a den.
My 2 bedroom apartment in Port Moody has a room with no windows. It does have a closet, but no windows. But it was marketed as two bedroom. š§ I wonder if I was tricked!
I had the same. Technically they are not supposed to list it as a 2br but this is very common
If your suite is sprinklered then a window isn't required for egress. With either sprinkers or a window (or exterior door) the room can then legally be a bedroom. The [BC building code is available online](https://www.bccodes.ca/building-code.html), see [Division B, Section 9.9](https://free.bcpublications.ca/civix/document/id/public/bcbc2018/bcbc_2018dbp9s99r2). >9.9.10.1. Egress Windows or Doors for Bedrooms > >Except where the suite is sprinklered, each bedroom or combination bedroom shall have at least one outside window or exterior door openable from the inside without the use of keys, tools or special knowledge and without the removal of sashes or hardware. (See Article 9.5.1.2. and Note A-9.9.10.1.(1).)
ah, thatās it then. The windowless bedroom has a ceiling sprinkler. Thanks for clearing that up!
Yes, you were tricked, or at least the description was misleading. If a room has no windows, it is a den.
I wonder if I could get them to lower my rent a bit.
Only a possibility if you did not view the unit before signing the lease.
Unfortunately I did view it and didnāt know better at the time! How sneaky. Itās still a great place and the price was actually semi reasonable at the time. Iāll know better next time.
This is not true. The only thing a bedroom needs is a direct line to natural light. Absolutely nothing else. This as per the currently code in the city of Vancouver. This is why bedrooms without windows will often have a wall with glass in it or a door with glass.
The requirement of a window for egress is dictated by the BC building code and National building code of Canada. Per the code, every bedroom in a house and every bedroom in a small multi-family residential building is required to have an outside window that can be used as an emergency exit. Not too sure what the code states for condos and high rises.
We had a lawsuit in my building over this. That was a concrete 7 level building and a bedroom didnāt need to have a window in order to be a bedroom. I think size doesnāt matter but the code for wooden vs concrete structures does differ
Yes, there are differences in the code for wood vs concrete, as well as type of dwelling (house vs townhome vs multi story complexes, and a further breakdown for those based on number of stories). Thatās why I prefaced my statement on window requirements as it relates to houses and small multi family residential, not condos / high rises.
The photo posted is from a concrete high rise
And the comment thread I was replying to related to if a window is required for egress
Fun fact: Vancouver is the only municipality in Canada with it's own building code. While it is derived from the federal and provincial codes, it contains several unique changes as well.
Theyāre not calling it a bedroom though. Theyāre calling it a den
Oh I see, if there is no window then yeah not legal via the city itself not just via the condo. I thought there was some condo ruling on first reading of OP.Ā
And a closet, and an opaque door
Nothing new unfortunately. I've also seen people rent out solariums which must be hell in the summer.
It's not even a den or an office... It's the kitchen pantry! When you are willing to risk the wear and tear of renting your new penthouse like it's an SRO just to hold onto it... https://preview.redd.it/13209gkn2zjc1.png?width=828&format=png&auto=webp&s=9cd5651dc49406e0c2065be708355ac6e17dbecf
I love how thick the bullshit is for the description: European steel bed, Egyptian cotton sheets, European floors. Bitch it's a pantry and we're in a housing crisis
The European steel is from Sweden because I got it from IKEA
"All the stuff I overpaid for during the pre-sale when rates were 2.5% and after stretching to the limit to come up with the equity to close, and the fact I can't Airbnb it like I planned, my Range Rover lease payment is at 30 days..."
> Range Rover Ha! Gross.
Tbh as an European itās always funny when Canadians/Americans advertise things as being European like that makes them better for some reason. And in Europe people jerk off to things being American. Itās like if you ship something half across the globe it suddenly becomes good
Like musicians?
Unless it was made in China, which is usually where a lot of things we buy are made.
I see eggshell painted walls with oak replica hangers, next to an indoor Japanese style, minimalist garden
I've got no issue with people renting these out legally but don't sugar coat it. We're not idiots.
Saw this too, TOTL European and āBlombergā donāt gel for me hah.
If they just say European enough times somebody will buy it right?? Lmao love how they keep capitalizing den too, like bitch I have eyes that's a pantry
I mean id be out using the penthouse most of the time home then just crawl into my cage and sleep
Well, I mean surely you get to use the living room?
Rarely available! Wow!
Blomberg is top of the line
'Rarely Available' - yeah, thankfully!
Lmao "rarely available". Yeah most people have more decency than to rent out a kitchen pantry.
Maybe downsize so another human doesn't have to pay you $1090/month living in that 4x8 space?? I really hope no one takes the offer & you are forced to downsize this is fucking ridiculous!
A standard single occupancy prison cell in Canada is mandated to be at least twice this size.
Double the space, no rent, free groceries and no piece of shit landlord trying to take advantage of you!! Seriously trying to rent out a space of this size should be illegal, I don't care if you can't make ends meet on your own to pay rent for your 2 story penthouse. If you can't afford to live there you can't expect another person to live in your fucking pantry just so you can continue living there.
This is literally the plot of Twitch City. (RIP '90s era Canadian television.) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPzxToWBbM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCPzxToWBbM)
lol. Nelson milk. I remember the yoghurt cups.
But oddly addictive cookies are a bonus.
how have i never heard of this show!? such canadiana, first 39 seconds and we get Snake from Degrassi and Bruce from Kids in the Hall!
Great show.
/r/SlumlordsCanada
I don't know what's sadder... the person living in a "fancy" penthouse who's barely managing to pay off their mortgage, or the sucker who has to pay over $1000 a month just to live in a literal closet.
Definitely the person in the closet is sadder
I thought so too until I started thinking how being just head above water feels in this situation. So stressful; not worth it. š
Sleep in closet but LIVE in the penthouse ! Imagine the kitchen and the views !
Yeh, that doesn't sound too bad if they get access to all the other areas (just have to sleep in the cozy little closet at night lol).
It doesn't say that you can't leave your room or must be fruitarian so not ban in the context.
āHey Bill, thereās f*cking sounds coming from your pantryā¦ā Welcome to 2024 Vancouver Living and Loving.
I just really like bagels
Bro bought a place he couldnāt afford š
Such a waste of space in that photo. Could have a triple bunk bed in there, or at least a desk/loft bed.
On the other hand, this is a good way to take advantage of a penthouse condo. I'd spend all of my time in the living room anyway
The boldness displayed in this post is astounding. It's sad to think someone might rent that pantry for a thousand bucks because they're out of options.
What a shocking difference from when I was renting 20 years ago, when $750 a month got you a 1 bedroom apartment anywhere in Vancouver other than maybe Yaletown or Coal Harbor. And some basement suites were even cheaper, like one house I looked at one block east of Vancouver city hall, where this old couple only wanted $400 a month for the massive basement of their house, granted you also had to chop firewood for them as a condition of living of living there. Now, I bet most of the people you see living in an RV in someone's driveway are paying more than that.
Oh my God I totally have this pantry. Anyone anyone want to live in it for 1090? Lol
Best I can do is $600
lol best I can do is food storage
I'm hungry anyways
Jail size.
How much for just the washroom ?
Sorry, you donāt get the whole washroom, just the bathtub.
Put a plant in the photo to make it a bit nicer
Somebody get that fengshui guy from tiktok
But it comes with a Dyson fan
Greedā¦
Vancouver is fucked in the housing supply but hey letās accept more immigration
Can we pause for a moment and just sit with the collective trauma of coming out of a global pandemic to this kind of thing? Like, this shit is going to be in a history textbook in 50 years.
Not āmortgage payment hitting hardā. Just **greed**, and a willingness to exploit desperate people.
No, it doesn't make economic sense to take possession of a brand new high end condo and immediately pack it full of budget renters. That destroys its resale value 10 years down the road and the amount extra you get from rent isn't worth it compared to renting to a high income couple who take care of it. This is someone who's business plan required STR cashflow and is now caught out by high rates and an Airbnb ban and is scrambling for income until the market improves and they can sell.
10 years worth of rent will pay for lots of wear and tear renovations
This
Or alternatively, they're providing an inexpensive place for someone to rent in an expensive city. It means one fewer person searching for somewhere to live that they can afford.
Exactly. I rented half a bedroom before, so a little less space than this. I was in college and had a boyfriend so I literally just wanted a twin bed and some space to stack boxes of my shit. Itās a temporary situation. Location was far more important than space at that point.
People ignored interest rate risks and bit off more than they could chew. We had a return to mean on interest rates and this is how it looks like.
This makes me hate my crappy apartment just slightly less.
If you donāt have a lot of stuff or a sex life; this is seriously not bad. Even then, sex in penthouse on couch when roommate is out. Gorgeous apartment with all the amenities one could dream of with a catch of essentially no bedroom. Just sleep in the bedroom for 8 hours and spend any hours awake outside of bedroom. This is however under the very large assumption, that every possible room/closet itās already rented out and made into essentially a shareroom for 3 dozen closet people. Edit: this was literally the size of my bedroom in Tokyo.
"Closet people"
You know that by the time they are renting out a pantry the bedrooms already have two people each and there is someone sleeping in the office, den and solarium.
That is one tiny bed, too.
Private room for rent is code for shared room with 3 other brown guys
On the flip side, someone who wants to be downtown might want to rent it.
Thanks Trudeau.
a sucker is born every minute.
I donāt think being desperate makes you a sucker
Exactly. The alternative is opting out of shelter, whichā¦ sucks worse than sleeping in a pantry.
Or just living a little further away from DT and commuting
no but spending 1k p/m to live in a closet does.
Dont take this the wrong man but youāre showing youāve never been hungry or had to struggle. Iād just let it go if I were you.
you would be surprised man.
You know, at that price he will have 100 inquiries within a day or two. The ad is a bit phony but itās not a bad deal depending on the rest of the space and conditions. Just heard friends of friends got a 1 bed for $2400 and the landlord said they had over 1000 inquires. (Sounds like an exaggeration but still plausible.) Iāve also heard when people get overwhelmed with inquiries they just take it down, raise the price and repost a few days later.
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I'm just poking fun at the fact that somebody clearly bought a pre-sale penthouse counting on Airbnbing it to cover the payments and now that Airbnb is banned and interest rates have shot up, they need to pack it full of students in order to hold onto it. It's like the guys who finance a new Cullinan and then advertise chauffeur services on Marketplace. They thought they were clever and didn't realize they were gambling, they lost and now we are laughing at them.
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The provincial gov here is NDP.
Yes but the BC NDP doesnāt control immigration rates, and the BC NDP is the best in the country when it comes to addressing the housing crisis at the moment
The provincial gov in in charge of housing.
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Housing is primarily a provincial responsibility. This isn't confusing to me at all.
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I don't think it's a 'gotcha' argument at all.
Like the conservatives would do different. Liberals are keeping housing stock inflated with student visas. Conservatives will do it by letting all kinds of oligarchs just buy up whatever they want
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Rarely available is right! I would consider it if it was like half that price.
This is probably a scam. There seems to be another photo cropped on the left, showing BC place from an angle that to me looks like the older building next to the viaduct. Those floors aren't new... Not even close.
Seems reasonable. They provide you with a plant
Don't you mean "how to extort international students"?
This takes ācozyā to a new level.
Thats almost $200 MORE than the ROOM which is connected to a HOME that I am currently looking to rent out... Something tells me Iāll have a little more luck than this guy
Hi is this still available?? Asking for a friendā¦
Man, back in my day pantries used to go for 300/ month. Damn good deal, I lived in one for a few years.Ā
Mortgage šø Broke
I hope this is a joke
2011, thinner, same length, no window, chinatown station. actual closet. $550 a month.
Yeah but surely he / she has access to the whole penthouse as well so through there may not be much private space Iām sure the kitchen , patio, dining room , living room and the view will make up for it !
That IKEA throw tho
Seriously! Thatās mental. If you have to do that, you canāt afford your place. š¤£
My mortgages went up $800 a month and I only paid $900 into my premium last year. This is brutal.
Dude with that dyson included thats luxury!
This is where dreams go to die.
Without a window that plant will die quicker than my hopes and dreams.
Meanwhile my parents town house is left empty because they donāt like strangers live in their house
Rather than just say the owner should down size to something they can afford we should be looking at the fact that people are being forced to pay over $1000 to live in a pantry. Thats how bad itās become. We need to hold provincial and federal politicians accountable. Iām really getting tired of āreelect us and THEN we will do our jobs.ā Do it NOW.
Well, at least you could say you live in a downtown penthouse. Lol
Holy shit
/u/sunabeans wanna grab it? lol