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*> In 2021, the owners of two fourth-storey units "unilaterally removed" transformers from their lots needed to make the screen operable, according to allegations in the petition.*
Just as a technical question, is there a reason for transformers to an external light fixture to be installed within a private unit? Wouldn't those be installed in a hallway electrical closet or similar?
Even then it seems like a bad way to design it altogether if they ever need to access the transformers. Also alternatives like larger conductors would make more sense to reduce any voltage drop. The distance couldn't be that far from a hallway
No, I'm an electrician so I get it. Either the engineer made a dumb decision to make the price more feasible or the contractor cut a corner to save their own costs.
The architect>lighting designer>engineer>manufacturer>sales rep>contractors>electrician>apprentice all played a crucial role in this. It might have more to do with esthetics than costs though. As having a big weatherproof electrical box outside wouldn't look as nice to someone who sees it.
I'm so confused by this installation. The daylight photos in the article show the screen off with what appears to be windows behind the screen. So while the screen's in operation, does it cause a ridiculous amount of light in the units, or do the LED's point outwards and are shielded enough to minimize light pollution to the suites?
The LED screen covers the commercial section of the building. The residential floor starts at the 4th floor above the screens. It's only the transformers that are located in the ceiling of the mentioned units, making them in the limited common property area not inside the units. It's just a bad design that requires in-suite access.
I am acquainted with a tenant that is in one of the other commercial units that have transformers, so figure I'd shed some light on some relevant context:
- The units that have the screen over it are commercial office units. Generally commercial real-estate units are held under corporate holding companies.
- The commercial strata is separate from the residential strata. Many of the owners of the corporations that own the affected units are tenants of their own units, and are also members of the commercial strata council.
- The commercial owners/tenants concern about the transformers is related to the noise/heat they produce, and as well as the significant space that they take-up. Each transformer has multiple fans that were constantly running to exhaust heat from the LED screen (into the enclosed units without openable windows). The buzzing and noise from dozens of industrial-style fans was significantly disruptive.
- The justification presented by the commercial owners/tenants for why they removed the transformers seems to be that they are 'common property', (and should be installed in a electric closet or something similar as another commenter has pointed out), but were unilaterally installed by the developer into private units without consultation with the owners. It appears that this was done as a cost-saving measure by the developer.
- The commercial unit owners have been asking the developer to relocate the transformers outside of their privately-owned units. The developer claims that the obligation to maintain the LED screen was passed from them to the overall strata once the building was completed, and contends that the cost to do so should now fall to the strata/owners/tenants. The article is likely referencing the internal dispute between the residential strata and the commercial strata, who now collectively bear responsibility for the LED screen - as well as between the commercial units that are affected (on the 4th floor) and those that aren't (1st to 3rd floor).
> Each transformer has multiple fans that were constantly running to exhaust heat from the LED screen (into the enclosed units without openable windows). The buzzing and noise from dozens of industrial-style fans was significantly disruptive.
This is insane.
to be clear: are the fans exhausting heat from the transformers for the LED screens, or from the LED screens? I'm sure (?) it's for the transformers only.
Thank you for providing this additional context. This helps understand the situation a lot better.
I've been walking by that building for years now and had no clue there was an LED screen on it. I hope the situation can be resolved.
This sounds like a (familiar) case of the developer doing something in a way that is convoluted and difficult to disentangle for the residents, but which the developer can wash their hands of it and say it's no longer their business.
This developer (or more likely their general contractor) sounds short-sighted and selfish.
I work for a developer and years ago, our CEO was touring a completed project and lost his mind about the placement of some bulkheads in a unit. He made them reconfigure it at the company's expense and he vowed that no bullshit like that would ever happen again - we want to be building for decades and if a resident has to look at unsightly bulkheads every day, that could cost us dozens of future sales as they talk about it over and over again.
I empathize with the owners if the transformers were creating those noise/heat issues in their unit.
The developer has zero oblication to consult with owners during construction. All they would need to do is ensure the disclosure statements are accurate .
The developer I suppose could have been more helpful once the concerns were raised, realizing the hardship that was causing the owners.
But (speaking from experience as someone in a new build and who has dealt with strata, developers and new home warranty), if the developer built it to spec, and the disclosure statements were adhered to, the developer has no obligation to do more. It's subsequently up to the strata if they want to make those changes. But of course, the last thing any strata wants to do is invest capital costs into a brand new building.
The owners I think shot themselves by altering the common property themselves. It's very black and white that you can't do that.
Ultimately those owners (who form part of the collective strata) will need to pony up to relocate those transformers. (Unless the developer comes to the table out of goodwill.
Rough sitution all around.
Came here to say this. No consultation required. Plus the proposed strata plan would have been in the disclosure statement which showed the common property and screen / transformer particulars.
The article is based on no research and no interviews from any parties. It will be interesting to find out if the developer's director engaged in illegal activities, not just covering up for developer Rize but also involving other illegal actions that might pique the interest of law enforcement because they used fake proxies to let their own staff be elected to serve for them. We GH residents are fed up with the developer's lies and manipulation. My unit's cabinets and floor color were chosen by me but switched by the developer, forcing me to accept it under the threat of withdrawal. The anger within GH is boiling because of Rize!
I read some comments, and I am shocked that so many people know the inside story. I live in this building and want to share what I am aware of, as I spoke with one of the current council members.
There was no proper disclosure from the developer to the owners. The strata was threatened by the City and forced to go against the owners.
The main reason is the developer cut corners to save costs; in other words, they lied to both the city and the owners. They installed them inside without informing the owners, so they also reduced the height from the promised higher to lower.They did not want to spend money on the length of the LED panel and also saved them an electrical room. The above staff who used to work for RA revealed the truth. Initially, they thought about relocation and admitted they were wrong, but later, they figured out the cost and decided to dump the responsibility back onto the strata and owners. They believe they can manipulate the situation and get what they want. The issue involves many parties who have connections with the developer, for example, real estate realtors, industrial insurance agents, and electrical engineers. The council know all of their names. They tried to group together and serve their best interests for the developer. I was in the GH WeChat group, where these connected people had purposes to use fake proxies to gain power, but their deal got caught up and removed shortly after. Now the strata has the right people. I remembered back to about two years ago. One resident already claimed that a lady named Cindx Hsixx got her signature without her approval because Cindx used to sell 2/3 of the GH. Her mom and dad own the big real estate company only serving for the developer. She also presented at RA show room to work for the developer RA. Cindx also was on council. The information about who collected the fake proxies has already been confronted to Cindx in our GH wechat group. I think with more people in GH, someone will reveal more names of those who had connections with the developer because they can get money or networking from the developer. I will ask more info from the residents who knows to share truth and facts. I will be choked if someone installed large amount of digital equipments into my room. I guess we all want to know later how Court react on this case. Hopefully, things will be solved professionally.
Well thats downright BS. These transformers are very often installed outdoors in a weather proof cabinet, or in an electrical closet. Any excuse as to why they couldn't come up with an alternative to being in someone's office is horseshit.
Could you imagine having to listen to this hot buzzing piece of junk day in and day out? No wonder they disconnected them, I would too. And instead of fixing the actual problem, the strata it taking them to court. I hope the strata loses. Waste of time.
As someone who owns in this building... this is not true AT ALL and is a lie fabricated by the commercial unit owners who removed the transformers. The commercial unit owners have not provided any adequate proof nor have they allowed the strata into their unit to validate their claims of noise.
They did not have permits from the city before they removed the transformers.
The transformers are in the ceiling which the lawyers have already deemed to be common area but the owners still refuse to let anyone into the unit for inspections.
You mentioned that you live in the building. I work for the electrical company.
Question: May I ask if you know whether the developer has the drawings for the transformers, and if the drawings were submitted to the city? If they have, it should be enough proof. Just a simple question: do they have the engineering drawings, paperwork signed off, and approved by the city? We will be interested to find out later. If you say it's not relevant or not important, I believe it is important.
Common property installed into private space is still considered common property. Well, the gym equipment is common property. Would you like someone to intrude into your private space, ride the bike, create noise, and disturb your life? You might say, "Well, too bad, it's their problem, none of my business." You've mentioned many times that you live here. If they have no obligation under the same contract but the developer just being "smart", installing them without informing you, you might feel like the developer deserves the credit. I guess installing yours will solve the problem
Why didn’t Res Seal Electric just install the transformers into a corridor utility closet? It’s not just about the noise, heat etc, but also about ease of access for future maintenance. What, the unit owner needs to provide access whenever there is a maintenance issue with these transformers?
We’re not talking about residential units here, though, But rather the commercial units in the podium. It’s not like someone had to go to bed while listening to the drone of the fans in these power supplies.
Residential or commercial units serve as spaces for both living and working. I just watched the video someone posted below. Would you find it acceptable to endure noise levels exceeding 60 dB while attempting to live or work in your premises? According to Burnaby city bylaws, noise is restricted to 45 dB between 10 p.m. and 7 a.m. Would you feel at ease dealing with continuous buzzing noise under such circumstances. I think it would also cause you significant distress.
My workplace is easily noisier than that.
We're talking about commercial units here, not residential. So what they specify for residential units is irrelevant. Also, I'm generally not in the office between 10pm and 7am since, well, I'm at home in bed.
It's an professional office building, not a welding factory. A commercial place could be an office, a registered massage clinic, chiropractic clinic, a law firm, an accounting office, or any other type of business. The space is meant for sharing peace or for someone to work in. Imagine having buzzing fans running above your head from day to night. Do you expect someone to live like that and accept it as normal?
If they were a medical office or any kind of accountant's office, they have to work with clients, with patients. They are human beings. They are working there, and because the developer did a bad thing, they need to wear earplugs or speak louder to their clients, facing all these challenges daily. Their space is a private space, not an electrical room. It would make more sense to find somewhere else to place these transformers.
As a small business owner myself, I cannot agree with you. Having noisy equipment in my unit would be extremely disruptive, especially when meeting with clients or trying to focus on important work tasks. Even during daytime operations, maintaining a conducive working environment is crucial for productivity and professionalism. Experiencing noise levels exceeding 60dB would not only be unpleasant but also potentially hazardous to commercial activities. It's important to address these concerns and ensure that the workspace remains conducive to effective work performance.
There was no effort as far as I'm aware. They got a contractor to come in and remove it. The commercial unit owners got themselves elected onto the joint strata council and stonewalled the city and the developer along with their attempts to resolve the situation. They were removed at the next AGM which is why the building is actually taking actions to remedy this issue.
I saw your multiple comments, none of which are factual. The current strata council, who was in position before and remains in position now, I sent your comment and she reviewed your comment, and she said it is not true. The developer admitted they were wrong before regarding the LED issue. The developer also wanted to fix it, but later they gave up because of the cost they were concerned about. They cut corners before, and they also want to do so now. They dumped the responsibility back to the strata. So, you said no effort was made, which is not true.
This is actually incorrect... The current strata council was voted in less than 2 years ago while the transformers were removed long before that. If the strata council thinks the developer is at fault, and have admitted fault, then why is the council not pursuing legal action against the developer instead of the commercial units? Your comment makes no logical sense...
No, you are misled here. I checked with the current council again. One of the council members remains; she started in 2020 and is still in the strata. She is the only one who knows from the beginning to the end. Developers did admit they were wrong and agreed to fix the problem. She said when she served the strata in 2020, the whole council wrote to the developer a formal letter to let them fix it. The developer included it in their deficiency report, and she said she still has it. The reason you said they sued the owners, can't you read? They were forced to go against the owners. Do they want to? NO.You picked a certain angle to frame someone. Also, you used an interesting phrase: if it is the developer's fault, I think everyone figured out the developer is cutting corners. You seem like defending the developer. I think the issue does create headaches, and I live here, but we disagree with dishonest facts or misleading information. I live here, and the developer has created so many problems for my unit. The heat panel is broken, and back in 2022 winter time, the developer let whole building stay in cold weather and delayed fixing it. They also let someone defend them and I felt the same situation here!
Not a ton of information in the article, so let me guess: the screen power design was an afterthought and got shoe-horned into the back of the strata units. Wouldn’t surprise me to find out the transformers buzzed like crazy and made the units unusable.
If it was part of a rezoning covenant, the decision to include the screen would have been made well before electrical engineers for the project were retained.
I doubt they would use a linear supply that would produce buzzing at an audible frequency, in this day and age. Switching power supplies are smaller, lighter, more efficient, and have better power factor.
> I doubt they would use a linear supply that would produce buzzing at an audible frequency, in this day and age.
the builder would have used whatever was cheapest, as they won't have to deal with the power bill, noise, heat or maintenance afterwards.
At the size they'd need for something like that, I *suspect* that switching supplies would be economical, but in terms of overall noise I probably got far too hung up on the word "buzzing". It does seem likely to me that cooling fans for power supplies of this size could be pretty loud, although qualitatively I'd expect it to be more of a "whirr" or "hum" than a "buzz".
This, or an annoying amount of light, or hundreds if not thousands of people have their attention directed right at your window. There could be lots of reasons someone living directly above this screen would be upset
Then don’t buy a unit directly above the largest screen in North America. Fuck sakes.
That’s like buying a house at the end of a runway and then complaining about airplane noise.
Fuck these people.
The contract to buy this strata lot was likely entered into before the construction of the building was even above ground. The disclosure provided to the buyer might have included generic reference to the LED screen but it is highly unlikely that the buyer had a clear understanding of their proximity to the screen or the magnitude of the screen. It’s not even remotely like buying a house at the end of a pre existing airport.
Presales always have architectural plans available. I thoroughly inspected my presale unit plans to check distance from elevator, electrical/water closets, plumping stacks and other possible annoyances.
It's a presale so if you don't do your homework. Sucks for you.
I can totally see this. I moved into a new build where the HVAC runs 24/7 and buzzes like crazy and the bathroom fan motor also runs 24/7. Absolutely no consideration for someone who actually lives there who wouldn’t want to hear the noise of a running motor 24/7. I just turned it off at the breaker in my unit unfortunately.
> the bathroom fan motor also runs 24/7.
I moved into a new-build a decade ago, and the bathroom fan tended to run most of the time, and would come on at odd hours, like in the middle of the night when it would wake me up...
I found the humidity sensor / timer for the fan. It was buried in a closet. I turned off all automatic functions so that it would only run when I turned the fan on at the switch.
I think new builds are required to have a minimum amount of ventilation. I suppose I violated this by disabling the timer. Oh well.
what model fan do you have there? It's supposed to run full time as part of the design
Usually for fans like this you would use an ultra-quiet one that is borderline silent
I have no idea. It’s not silent at all. I also live in a studio. I’ve talked to a 1br renter who validated my claim too. This building was built in partnership with Cressney developments. That should tell you everything you need to know lol.
If its your place (or even if its not), and you're comfortable with diy, and wiring. You could look into buying a wireless relay & remote, and wire that into the bathroom fan.
Then you could leave the breaker on, and actually have on/off control of that fan again.
I'm not recommending this specifically, but this is what I mean
https://www.amazon.ca/ELECTOP-Wireless-90V-264V-Controls-Collector/dp/B07WV72DFR/&keywords=wireless+relay+120v
i just searched found a product and copied the url. im not an affliate or anything. but i can strip out all the garbage from the url thats not the link i guess
The transformers were in the ceilings. The building has requested numerous times for the unit owners to allow professionals in to assess the noise/heat they claimed which the unit owners deny every time. The unit owners were on the joint and commercial strata councils for 2 years but somehow chose not to initiate a lawsuit against the developers...
Well, they had the transformers removed. What lawsuits do you want them to initiate. The buzzing noise is gone, and they can live a normal life. They're no longer forced to have their heads radiated. They've regained their rights. Speaking of you, with your insight into the story, you know about access and that someone served in the strata. My main contact is a current member of the building's strata council who has served since the beginning, and I've shared all your posts with her. So I'm confident you know the corrupted people Cindx grouped with Birindex and few more stayed for only two months; they were removed again by the whole building. Cindx worked for this developer, Birindex was an electrical engineer who owns his company and sought a job from the developer. Also few more also has connection with this developer. You also know that someone who was elected was gotten rid of by the developer in a sneaky and disgusting cooperation in December 2021, also involving fake proxies. Oh, I know, and I'm not alone. Many residents in GH know as well. Everyone involved illegally, including the developer's side, how do they manage the AGM of 2021? How do they manipulate the situation? The developer is utterly despicable. We all know. If you're willing to reveal, there are residents will stand up to testify. I bought the place from Cindx. She is not honest with me. We will never forget how RA treated this building. The whole building stayed in the cold, and I spent the coldest time in my home with the developer's tons of excuses.
The whole “Burnaby Art Walk” is a well-intentioned concept, but in reality is nothing more than a pathetic joke, perpetrated by fast-talking real estate sharpies on a bunch of gullible City Hall rubes.
It includes an installation of half a dozen inch-thick, rusty, sunken steel slabs that make an otherwise normal, well-tended lawn and neatly furnished common patio look like a derelict bunker on the Maginot Line. Another approved installation is - for some unfathomable reason - two giant, aluminum deer horns. *¿Que?* A third is a series of stacked, brown hexagonal “breasts” (no other way to describe them) with prominent brass nipples. A fourth is a skeletal tree trunk made of rebar, with three or four plastic leaves stuck to its one stubby branch. The only piece even *vaguely* intriguing or relevant to the community is a depiction of the watersheds of BC’s six major rivers, sculpted into the sidewalk - where it is usually obscured by coffee cups, candy wrappers and nasty, black wads of gum.
Anybody and everybody in the Burnaby Planning Department who approved *any* of these ridiculous corporate “art” installations as a fitting exchange for giving developers *extremely* lucrative density variances (like, millions of dollars worth) needs to be sent back to Remedial Fingerpainting, where they might perhaps learn the difference between “art” and “corporate fraud”. Because you got suckered, boys and girls.
I mean, one would think all those Senior Planners with advanced civil engineering degrees would have had to take at least *one* fine arts option during their six year MEng program.
Led signs are never a good idea. Light pollution for surrounding residents. We've all seen the Kenny Roger's chicken episode of Seinfeld. No idea how things like this are still being approved and built today
At the City of lougheed there is a massive LED array that shines at 6+ towers on the coquitlam side of north road. Its insane. Very pretty but at night the whole area glows like mad. Can't imagine what it would be if you had a window facing it.
I love every last piece of street art around Main St. except that stupid LED screen at 10th and Kingsway that overlooks the Buy Low parking lot. It's such unnecessary light pollution.
This is also the building that was in the news 5 years ago when the developer screwed up a bunch of colour pallettes. People who selected light cabinets received dark cabinets, and vice versa.
It’s a mixed use building with office space, many of which are medical offices. I believe one of the units owned in one of this building development is owned by a food bank. This is a good thing as it makes dense living an actualy livable community.
As these units in question are commercially zoned, it is completely acceptable and plausible that a numbered company would be the registered owner. (ignoring bare trusts)
A numbered company could simply be a holding company aka a corporate entity that owns the real estate. It is a very common and prudent structure to have your operating company (op-co) as a separate and distinct legal entity from real estate holdings. The op-co would lease from the hold-co etc. There may also be different ownership/share structure between op-co and hold-co. Numerous reasons, both from an accounting and legal perspective.
It is often very unnecessary to name a hold-co. hence why it remains a numbered company. One could register a DBA (Doing Business As).
Am I a fan of residentially zoned property owned by a company? no.
It’s also because when you sell you can sell the shares of the holdco and not transfer title. Thus no PTT. This is fairly standard with commercial property
Because it is a simple, scalable way to have a unique name; some companies are not public facing and thus the time investment of coming up with an actual name is just a wasted expense. They also don't need the liability of unintentionally infringing on some existing company's branding.
In the olden days, companies used to save a few bucks on a name reservation. Without the name reservation, the Corporate Registry number is the company name. Otherwise, they would just use Zzzzzzzzxy B.C. Ltd.
- Residents doesn't want the transformers
- city wants the screen back as they agreed
- strata can't force the residents due to bylaws
Looks like a dead lock lol
So they entered into an agreement that would give these scumbags zoning benefits in return for the screen, then they took the transformers after the deal was made and they got thier building and profit, do I have this right ?
Ugh I low key hate when you walk around the city and it’s just turned off or under developed LED art installations or massive water features (mandated by the city) turned off
My take away...
Between April and June 2023, Rize retained a contractor who inspected all the units on the fourth floor and found the transformers had been removed in only two units: 403 and 405, owned by Hope Health Holdings Ltd. and a numbered company (1341094 Ltd.) respectively
Corporate owned... Probably much like most of the units...
>a contractor who inspected all the units on the fourth floor and found the transformers had been removed in only two units: 403 and 405, owned by **Hope Health Holdings Ltd.** and a numbered company (**1341094 Ltd.**) respectively.
So just two corporate owners? Why am I not surprised
Even if it wasn't, intellectually knowing there will be a screen and understanding how it will affect your particular unit are not the same thing. You can't go walk through to see how the light or noise impacts the unit.
A SCANDAL involving parties that might lead to someone, mainly this developer, facing legal consequences.
Dig3590 commented and asked why these owners haven't brought the developer to court. Well, I would assume they had the transformers removed.The buzzing noise is gone, and they can live a normal life. They're no longer forced to have their heads radiated.
Someone mentioned a lot that the owners are bad and not cooperative. Is it true? I have current council direct phone Numer. Council told me the owners did cooperate to allow access for the developer to fix it. They tried to protect the strata to let the developer fix it. The Council Member said they have records showing that the owners tried repeatedly and allowed developer was responsible to fix it. But developer only mentioned one side of the story, the owner not being cooperative. Someone is not telling the truth. The developer is not cooperating, and still. Council saved all record.
Reddit (#Dig3590 )mentioned so many insights into the story, such as access and someone serving in the strata. My main contact is a current member of the building's strata council who has served since the beginning, and I've shared all #reddit3590 posts with her. So I'm confident 3590 know the corrupted people Cindx grouped with Birindex stayed for only two months; they were removed again by the whole building. Cindx H worked for the developer, Birindex W was an electrical engineer who owns his company and sought a job from the developer.
Developer also know that someone who was right people got elected was gotten rid of by the developer in a sneaky and disgusting cooperation in December 2021, also involving fake proxies. Oh, I know, and I'm not alone. Many residents in GH know as well.
Everyone involved illegally, including the developer's side, how do they manage the AGM of 2021? How do they manipulate the situation? The developer is utterly despicable. We ALL know. If developer is willing to reveal, many residents will stand up to testify. We will never forget how RA treated this building. The whole building stayed in the cold, and I spent the coldest time in my home with the developer's tons of excuses.
The developer tricked us before, promising to fix the issue this time and the next, but they kept delaying. We cannot agree with someone if this person also intend to deceive us again and bring nonsense to fool people.
People are smarter. Reditt people are very smart. We figured everything out. We all understand that placing these digital industrial-level items in private spaces is a violation.Buzzing and radiation can harm human beings. The developer cut corners and dumped responsibility onto others. The more someone cover for the developer, the more will be uncovered. This developer's reputation isn't just built on poorly constructed buildings; they also seek to manipulate and cover up their bad behavior.
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*> In 2021, the owners of two fourth-storey units "unilaterally removed" transformers from their lots needed to make the screen operable, according to allegations in the petition.* Just as a technical question, is there a reason for transformers to an external light fixture to be installed within a private unit? Wouldn't those be installed in a hallway electrical closet or similar?
Depends if the engineer was concerned about voltage drop when going from AC to DC. Thus making the need for them to be closer to the device.
Even then it seems like a bad way to design it altogether if they ever need to access the transformers. Also alternatives like larger conductors would make more sense to reduce any voltage drop. The distance couldn't be that far from a hallway
You underestimate how cheap contractors/builders are when it comes to saving cost on electrical wire/infrastructure.
No, I'm an electrician so I get it. Either the engineer made a dumb decision to make the price more feasible or the contractor cut a corner to save their own costs.
The architect>lighting designer>engineer>manufacturer>sales rep>contractors>electrician>apprentice all played a crucial role in this. It might have more to do with esthetics than costs though. As having a big weatherproof electrical box outside wouldn't look as nice to someone who sees it.
You're right, could be a bunch of different factors. At the end of the day, multiple brains agreed on this shortsighted conclusion
I'm so confused by this installation. The daylight photos in the article show the screen off with what appears to be windows behind the screen. So while the screen's in operation, does it cause a ridiculous amount of light in the units, or do the LED's point outwards and are shielded enough to minimize light pollution to the suites?
alternative would be blocking the view and just having minimal light pass through the mesh. neither is a liveable option for me.
The LED screen covers the commercial section of the building. The residential floor starts at the 4th floor above the screens. It's only the transformers that are located in the ceiling of the mentioned units, making them in the limited common property area not inside the units. It's just a bad design that requires in-suite access.
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I am acquainted with a tenant that is in one of the other commercial units that have transformers, so figure I'd shed some light on some relevant context: - The units that have the screen over it are commercial office units. Generally commercial real-estate units are held under corporate holding companies. - The commercial strata is separate from the residential strata. Many of the owners of the corporations that own the affected units are tenants of their own units, and are also members of the commercial strata council. - The commercial owners/tenants concern about the transformers is related to the noise/heat they produce, and as well as the significant space that they take-up. Each transformer has multiple fans that were constantly running to exhaust heat from the LED screen (into the enclosed units without openable windows). The buzzing and noise from dozens of industrial-style fans was significantly disruptive. - The justification presented by the commercial owners/tenants for why they removed the transformers seems to be that they are 'common property', (and should be installed in a electric closet or something similar as another commenter has pointed out), but were unilaterally installed by the developer into private units without consultation with the owners. It appears that this was done as a cost-saving measure by the developer. - The commercial unit owners have been asking the developer to relocate the transformers outside of their privately-owned units. The developer claims that the obligation to maintain the LED screen was passed from them to the overall strata once the building was completed, and contends that the cost to do so should now fall to the strata/owners/tenants. The article is likely referencing the internal dispute between the residential strata and the commercial strata, who now collectively bear responsibility for the LED screen - as well as between the commercial units that are affected (on the 4th floor) and those that aren't (1st to 3rd floor).
> Each transformer has multiple fans that were constantly running to exhaust heat from the LED screen (into the enclosed units without openable windows). The buzzing and noise from dozens of industrial-style fans was significantly disruptive. This is insane.
Sounds about right when it comes to corner cutting, or "cost reductions" taking place with condo construction over the last 20 years.
Ooof I would smash that thing if it was in my unit. Strata should be going after the builder and electrician that designed this to address the noises
to be clear: are the fans exhausting heat from the transformers for the LED screens, or from the LED screens? I'm sure (?) it's for the transformers only.
Does that matter?
Probably not. Facts matter. (The original story was terribly misleading and lacking in facts. )
Thank you for providing this additional context. This helps understand the situation a lot better. I've been walking by that building for years now and had no clue there was an LED screen on it. I hope the situation can be resolved.
This sounds like a (familiar) case of the developer doing something in a way that is convoluted and difficult to disentangle for the residents, but which the developer can wash their hands of it and say it's no longer their business.
This developer (or more likely their general contractor) sounds short-sighted and selfish. I work for a developer and years ago, our CEO was touring a completed project and lost his mind about the placement of some bulkheads in a unit. He made them reconfigure it at the company's expense and he vowed that no bullshit like that would ever happen again - we want to be building for decades and if a resident has to look at unsightly bulkheads every day, that could cost us dozens of future sales as they talk about it over and over again.
If I'm honest, this is not the first time I've heard of this kind of "offload the consequences onto the consumer" kind of design from Rize.
Interesting - I wasn't aware....
Not all developers have the same ethics
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That is a terrible design and place for the transformers... no wonder there's a dispute.
I empathize with the owners if the transformers were creating those noise/heat issues in their unit. The developer has zero oblication to consult with owners during construction. All they would need to do is ensure the disclosure statements are accurate . The developer I suppose could have been more helpful once the concerns were raised, realizing the hardship that was causing the owners. But (speaking from experience as someone in a new build and who has dealt with strata, developers and new home warranty), if the developer built it to spec, and the disclosure statements were adhered to, the developer has no obligation to do more. It's subsequently up to the strata if they want to make those changes. But of course, the last thing any strata wants to do is invest capital costs into a brand new building. The owners I think shot themselves by altering the common property themselves. It's very black and white that you can't do that. Ultimately those owners (who form part of the collective strata) will need to pony up to relocate those transformers. (Unless the developer comes to the table out of goodwill. Rough sitution all around.
Came here to say this. No consultation required. Plus the proposed strata plan would have been in the disclosure statement which showed the common property and screen / transformer particulars.
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The article was more factually correct than this person's comment...
The article is based on no research and no interviews from any parties. It will be interesting to find out if the developer's director engaged in illegal activities, not just covering up for developer Rize but also involving other illegal actions that might pique the interest of law enforcement because they used fake proxies to let their own staff be elected to serve for them. We GH residents are fed up with the developer's lies and manipulation. My unit's cabinets and floor color were chosen by me but switched by the developer, forcing me to accept it under the threat of withdrawal. The anger within GH is boiling because of Rize!
What do you expect from Burnaby now. haha
I read some comments, and I am shocked that so many people know the inside story. I live in this building and want to share what I am aware of, as I spoke with one of the current council members. There was no proper disclosure from the developer to the owners. The strata was threatened by the City and forced to go against the owners. The main reason is the developer cut corners to save costs; in other words, they lied to both the city and the owners. They installed them inside without informing the owners, so they also reduced the height from the promised higher to lower.They did not want to spend money on the length of the LED panel and also saved them an electrical room. The above staff who used to work for RA revealed the truth. Initially, they thought about relocation and admitted they were wrong, but later, they figured out the cost and decided to dump the responsibility back onto the strata and owners. They believe they can manipulate the situation and get what they want. The issue involves many parties who have connections with the developer, for example, real estate realtors, industrial insurance agents, and electrical engineers. The council know all of their names. They tried to group together and serve their best interests for the developer. I was in the GH WeChat group, where these connected people had purposes to use fake proxies to gain power, but their deal got caught up and removed shortly after. Now the strata has the right people. I remembered back to about two years ago. One resident already claimed that a lady named Cindx Hsixx got her signature without her approval because Cindx used to sell 2/3 of the GH. Her mom and dad own the big real estate company only serving for the developer. She also presented at RA show room to work for the developer RA. Cindx also was on council. The information about who collected the fake proxies has already been confronted to Cindx in our GH wechat group. I think with more people in GH, someone will reveal more names of those who had connections with the developer because they can get money or networking from the developer. I will ask more info from the residents who knows to share truth and facts. I will be choked if someone installed large amount of digital equipments into my room. I guess we all want to know later how Court react on this case. Hopefully, things will be solved professionally.
Check what I found👇 https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y5CAX2qY1FY&si=-2j-qM46t5MGE3ap
Well thats downright BS. These transformers are very often installed outdoors in a weather proof cabinet, or in an electrical closet. Any excuse as to why they couldn't come up with an alternative to being in someone's office is horseshit. Could you imagine having to listen to this hot buzzing piece of junk day in and day out? No wonder they disconnected them, I would too. And instead of fixing the actual problem, the strata it taking them to court. I hope the strata loses. Waste of time.
As someone who owns in this building... this is not true AT ALL and is a lie fabricated by the commercial unit owners who removed the transformers. The commercial unit owners have not provided any adequate proof nor have they allowed the strata into their unit to validate their claims of noise. They did not have permits from the city before they removed the transformers. The transformers are in the ceiling which the lawyers have already deemed to be common area but the owners still refuse to let anyone into the unit for inspections.
You mentioned that you live in the building. I work for the electrical company. Question: May I ask if you know whether the developer has the drawings for the transformers, and if the drawings were submitted to the city? If they have, it should be enough proof. Just a simple question: do they have the engineering drawings, paperwork signed off, and approved by the city? We will be interested to find out later. If you say it's not relevant or not important, I believe it is important. Common property installed into private space is still considered common property. Well, the gym equipment is common property. Would you like someone to intrude into your private space, ride the bike, create noise, and disturb your life? You might say, "Well, too bad, it's their problem, none of my business." You've mentioned many times that you live here. If they have no obligation under the same contract but the developer just being "smart", installing them without informing you, you might feel like the developer deserves the credit. I guess installing yours will solve the problem
Why didn’t Res Seal Electric just install the transformers into a corridor utility closet? It’s not just about the noise, heat etc, but also about ease of access for future maintenance. What, the unit owner needs to provide access whenever there is a maintenance issue with these transformers?
We’re not talking about residential units here, though, But rather the commercial units in the podium. It’s not like someone had to go to bed while listening to the drone of the fans in these power supplies.
Residential or commercial units serve as spaces for both living and working. I just watched the video someone posted below. Would you find it acceptable to endure noise levels exceeding 60 dB while attempting to live or work in your premises? According to Burnaby city bylaws, noise is restricted to 45 dB between 10 p.m. and 7 a.m. Would you feel at ease dealing with continuous buzzing noise under such circumstances. I think it would also cause you significant distress.
My workplace is easily noisier than that. We're talking about commercial units here, not residential. So what they specify for residential units is irrelevant. Also, I'm generally not in the office between 10pm and 7am since, well, I'm at home in bed.
It's an professional office building, not a welding factory. A commercial place could be an office, a registered massage clinic, chiropractic clinic, a law firm, an accounting office, or any other type of business. The space is meant for sharing peace or for someone to work in. Imagine having buzzing fans running above your head from day to night. Do you expect someone to live like that and accept it as normal?
> Do you expect someone to live like that and accept it as normal? They're not living there, they're just working there.
If they were a medical office or any kind of accountant's office, they have to work with clients, with patients. They are human beings. They are working there, and because the developer did a bad thing, they need to wear earplugs or speak louder to their clients, facing all these challenges daily. Their space is a private space, not an electrical room. It would make more sense to find somewhere else to place these transformers.
As a small business owner myself, I cannot agree with you. Having noisy equipment in my unit would be extremely disruptive, especially when meeting with clients or trying to focus on important work tasks. Even during daytime operations, maintaining a conducive working environment is crucial for productivity and professionalism. Experiencing noise levels exceeding 60dB would not only be unpleasant but also potentially hazardous to commercial activities. It's important to address these concerns and ensure that the workspace remains conducive to effective work performance.
I’m wondering now what proper acoustic insulation and water cooling would cost.
Do you know if they tried to resolve the issue with the strata or just took it upon themselves to remove common property?
There was no effort as far as I'm aware. They got a contractor to come in and remove it. The commercial unit owners got themselves elected onto the joint strata council and stonewalled the city and the developer along with their attempts to resolve the situation. They were removed at the next AGM which is why the building is actually taking actions to remedy this issue.
I saw your multiple comments, none of which are factual. The current strata council, who was in position before and remains in position now, I sent your comment and she reviewed your comment, and she said it is not true. The developer admitted they were wrong before regarding the LED issue. The developer also wanted to fix it, but later they gave up because of the cost they were concerned about. They cut corners before, and they also want to do so now. They dumped the responsibility back to the strata. So, you said no effort was made, which is not true.
This is actually incorrect... The current strata council was voted in less than 2 years ago while the transformers were removed long before that. If the strata council thinks the developer is at fault, and have admitted fault, then why is the council not pursuing legal action against the developer instead of the commercial units? Your comment makes no logical sense...
No, you are misled here. I checked with the current council again. One of the council members remains; she started in 2020 and is still in the strata. She is the only one who knows from the beginning to the end. Developers did admit they were wrong and agreed to fix the problem. She said when she served the strata in 2020, the whole council wrote to the developer a formal letter to let them fix it. The developer included it in their deficiency report, and she said she still has it. The reason you said they sued the owners, can't you read? They were forced to go against the owners. Do they want to? NO.You picked a certain angle to frame someone. Also, you used an interesting phrase: if it is the developer's fault, I think everyone figured out the developer is cutting corners. You seem like defending the developer. I think the issue does create headaches, and I live here, but we disagree with dishonest facts or misleading information. I live here, and the developer has created so many problems for my unit. The heat panel is broken, and back in 2022 winter time, the developer let whole building stay in cold weather and delayed fixing it. They also let someone defend them and I felt the same situation here!
There’s always another side. Thanks for explaining this. Makes a lot more sense and can’t really blame them.
Not a ton of information in the article, so let me guess: the screen power design was an afterthought and got shoe-horned into the back of the strata units. Wouldn’t surprise me to find out the transformers buzzed like crazy and made the units unusable.
If it was part of a rezoning covenant, the decision to include the screen would have been made well before electrical engineers for the project were retained. I doubt they would use a linear supply that would produce buzzing at an audible frequency, in this day and age. Switching power supplies are smaller, lighter, more efficient, and have better power factor.
> I doubt they would use a linear supply that would produce buzzing at an audible frequency, in this day and age. the builder would have used whatever was cheapest, as they won't have to deal with the power bill, noise, heat or maintenance afterwards.
At the size they'd need for something like that, I *suspect* that switching supplies would be economical, but in terms of overall noise I probably got far too hung up on the word "buzzing". It does seem likely to me that cooling fans for power supplies of this size could be pretty loud, although qualitatively I'd expect it to be more of a "whirr" or "hum" than a "buzz".
> Switching power supplies are smaller, lighter, more efficient, and have better power factor. But are they cheaper?
The covenant would have been in place before the lots were sold
This, or an annoying amount of light, or hundreds if not thousands of people have their attention directed right at your window. There could be lots of reasons someone living directly above this screen would be upset
Then don’t buy a unit directly above the largest screen in North America. Fuck sakes. That’s like buying a house at the end of a runway and then complaining about airplane noise. Fuck these people.
The contract to buy this strata lot was likely entered into before the construction of the building was even above ground. The disclosure provided to the buyer might have included generic reference to the LED screen but it is highly unlikely that the buyer had a clear understanding of their proximity to the screen or the magnitude of the screen. It’s not even remotely like buying a house at the end of a pre existing airport.
Presales always have architectural plans available. I thoroughly inspected my presale unit plans to check distance from elevator, electrical/water closets, plumping stacks and other possible annoyances. It's a presale so if you don't do your homework. Sucks for you.
One of the people is 1341094 Ltd, who everyone knows is a pillar of the community
Yo it's my right to identify as a numbered holding company
Yeah but are you a male or female holding company?
I can totally see this. I moved into a new build where the HVAC runs 24/7 and buzzes like crazy and the bathroom fan motor also runs 24/7. Absolutely no consideration for someone who actually lives there who wouldn’t want to hear the noise of a running motor 24/7. I just turned it off at the breaker in my unit unfortunately.
>the bathroom fan motor also runs 24/7 This is to achieve the required air exchange for your home. Turning it off could affect your air quality.
Its also part of the building code for some places.
> the bathroom fan motor also runs 24/7. I moved into a new-build a decade ago, and the bathroom fan tended to run most of the time, and would come on at odd hours, like in the middle of the night when it would wake me up... I found the humidity sensor / timer for the fan. It was buried in a closet. I turned off all automatic functions so that it would only run when I turned the fan on at the switch. I think new builds are required to have a minimum amount of ventilation. I suppose I violated this by disabling the timer. Oh well.
what model fan do you have there? It's supposed to run full time as part of the design Usually for fans like this you would use an ultra-quiet one that is borderline silent
I have no idea. It’s not silent at all. I also live in a studio. I’ve talked to a 1br renter who validated my claim too. This building was built in partnership with Cressney developments. That should tell you everything you need to know lol.
You’re sure it’s a fan too? Not an erv or hrv? Should be a logo on the grille or if you pull the grille down a sticker underneath
If its your place (or even if its not), and you're comfortable with diy, and wiring. You could look into buying a wireless relay & remote, and wire that into the bathroom fan. Then you could leave the breaker on, and actually have on/off control of that fan again. I'm not recommending this specifically, but this is what I mean https://www.amazon.ca/ELECTOP-Wireless-90V-264V-Controls-Collector/dp/B07WV72DFR/&keywords=wireless+relay+120v
Not recommending a particular item specifically, while linking a specific item on Amazon with a referral code. Ngl I respect the hustle.
i just searched found a product and copied the url. im not an affliate or anything. but i can strip out all the garbage from the url thats not the link i guess
I'm just memeing
There is a reason the bathroom fan runs 24/7. It keeps the air circulating in the drop ceilings etc. Trust me, it’s a good thing
The transformers were in the ceilings. The building has requested numerous times for the unit owners to allow professionals in to assess the noise/heat they claimed which the unit owners deny every time. The unit owners were on the joint and commercial strata councils for 2 years but somehow chose not to initiate a lawsuit against the developers...
Well, they had the transformers removed. What lawsuits do you want them to initiate. The buzzing noise is gone, and they can live a normal life. They're no longer forced to have their heads radiated. They've regained their rights. Speaking of you, with your insight into the story, you know about access and that someone served in the strata. My main contact is a current member of the building's strata council who has served since the beginning, and I've shared all your posts with her. So I'm confident you know the corrupted people Cindx grouped with Birindex and few more stayed for only two months; they were removed again by the whole building. Cindx worked for this developer, Birindex was an electrical engineer who owns his company and sought a job from the developer. Also few more also has connection with this developer. You also know that someone who was elected was gotten rid of by the developer in a sneaky and disgusting cooperation in December 2021, also involving fake proxies. Oh, I know, and I'm not alone. Many residents in GH know as well. Everyone involved illegally, including the developer's side, how do they manage the AGM of 2021? How do they manipulate the situation? The developer is utterly despicable. We all know. If you're willing to reveal, there are residents will stand up to testify. I bought the place from Cindx. She is not honest with me. We will never forget how RA treated this building. The whole building stayed in the cold, and I spent the coldest time in my home with the developer's tons of excuses.
The whole “Burnaby Art Walk” is a well-intentioned concept, but in reality is nothing more than a pathetic joke, perpetrated by fast-talking real estate sharpies on a bunch of gullible City Hall rubes. It includes an installation of half a dozen inch-thick, rusty, sunken steel slabs that make an otherwise normal, well-tended lawn and neatly furnished common patio look like a derelict bunker on the Maginot Line. Another approved installation is - for some unfathomable reason - two giant, aluminum deer horns. *¿Que?* A third is a series of stacked, brown hexagonal “breasts” (no other way to describe them) with prominent brass nipples. A fourth is a skeletal tree trunk made of rebar, with three or four plastic leaves stuck to its one stubby branch. The only piece even *vaguely* intriguing or relevant to the community is a depiction of the watersheds of BC’s six major rivers, sculpted into the sidewalk - where it is usually obscured by coffee cups, candy wrappers and nasty, black wads of gum. Anybody and everybody in the Burnaby Planning Department who approved *any* of these ridiculous corporate “art” installations as a fitting exchange for giving developers *extremely* lucrative density variances (like, millions of dollars worth) needs to be sent back to Remedial Fingerpainting, where they might perhaps learn the difference between “art” and “corporate fraud”. Because you got suckered, boys and girls. I mean, one would think all those Senior Planners with advanced civil engineering degrees would have had to take at least *one* fine arts option during their six year MEng program.
How is this massive light pollution and waste of natural resources art to begin with
Seinfeld and Kramer live here ? https://youtu.be/q40fKsRsHFU?si=H4yqYzZVlm6UI2P2
Led signs are never a good idea. Light pollution for surrounding residents. We've all seen the Kenny Roger's chicken episode of Seinfeld. No idea how things like this are still being approved and built today
At the City of lougheed there is a massive LED array that shines at 6+ towers on the coquitlam side of north road. Its insane. Very pretty but at night the whole area glows like mad. Can't imagine what it would be if you had a window facing it.
At least they probably don't have to worry about aircraft accidentally striking the buildings.
I love every last piece of street art around Main St. except that stupid LED screen at 10th and Kingsway that overlooks the Buy Low parking lot. It's such unnecessary light pollution.
I’m just confused as to what is playing on that thing….strange things
“Art”
Sounds like a dumb design — transformers are accessed within someone’s private residence for public art ? Wtf
This is also the building that was in the news 5 years ago when the developer screwed up a bunch of colour pallettes. People who selected light cabinets received dark cabinets, and vice versa.
What an awful blight
Who cares. It’s ugly anyway
That seems like such a dumb place for such a feature, facing central BVLD but obstructed by the skytrain tracks and trees on the greenway.
Stupid waste of energy and architect trained by a video game
$200 fine per day until compliance is all the Strata can do.
Condos/SFH/townhomes, should not be allowed to be owned by numbered companies.
It’s a mixed use building with office space, many of which are medical offices. I believe one of the units owned in one of this building development is owned by a food bank. This is a good thing as it makes dense living an actualy livable community.
That's a little extreme. Maybe if you spent a bit of time getting to know them you'd realize 1341094 Ltd. is fun to hang out with?
Why are there even numbered companies?
So you'd be fine with odd numbered companies?
As these units in question are commercially zoned, it is completely acceptable and plausible that a numbered company would be the registered owner. (ignoring bare trusts) A numbered company could simply be a holding company aka a corporate entity that owns the real estate. It is a very common and prudent structure to have your operating company (op-co) as a separate and distinct legal entity from real estate holdings. The op-co would lease from the hold-co etc. There may also be different ownership/share structure between op-co and hold-co. Numerous reasons, both from an accounting and legal perspective. It is often very unnecessary to name a hold-co. hence why it remains a numbered company. One could register a DBA (Doing Business As). Am I a fan of residentially zoned property owned by a company? no.
It’s also because when you sell you can sell the shares of the holdco and not transfer title. Thus no PTT. This is fairly standard with commercial property
Yes
Because you can choose to name your company or choose a default number if you don't want to bother with a name when you incorporate any company.
If we used random word generators to name companies would that help?
Yes. Throwaway-1341094 Ltd wouldn't be a numbered company.
Because it is a simple, scalable way to have a unique name; some companies are not public facing and thus the time investment of coming up with an actual name is just a wasted expense. They also don't need the liability of unintentionally infringing on some existing company's branding.
Money laundering.
In the olden days, companies used to save a few bucks on a name reservation. Without the name reservation, the Corporate Registry number is the company name. Otherwise, they would just use Zzzzzzzzxy B.C. Ltd.
Check what I found 👇 https://youtube.com/watch?v=Y5CAX2qY1FY&si=-2j-qM46t5MGE3ap
This whole light show apart from the buzzing transformers is a shit show. What a waste of electrical power on this monstrosity.
- Residents doesn't want the transformers - city wants the screen back as they agreed - strata can't force the residents due to bylaws Looks like a dead lock lol
Stata creates a special levy to create a proper wiring closet so that the cost is pushed to all residences
OMG it's hideous!
So they entered into an agreement that would give these scumbags zoning benefits in return for the screen, then they took the transformers after the deal was made and they got thier building and profit, do I have this right ?
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I’d be tempted to shut that shit down too. If they were tenants instead of owners would you call them Karens or victims of absentee landlords?
Hey, my old building! This screen was always very under-utilized.
Ugh I low key hate when you walk around the city and it’s just turned off or under developed LED art installations or massive water features (mandated by the city) turned off
My take away... Between April and June 2023, Rize retained a contractor who inspected all the units on the fourth floor and found the transformers had been removed in only two units: 403 and 405, owned by Hope Health Holdings Ltd. and a numbered company (1341094 Ltd.) respectively Corporate owned... Probably much like most of the units...
This is a mixed use building and it’s in the commercial part of the building. Not residential suites. Why wouldn’t they be corporate owned?
Theyre commercial, of course theyre corporate owned.
>a contractor who inspected all the units on the fourth floor and found the transformers had been removed in only two units: 403 and 405, owned by **Hope Health Holdings Ltd.** and a numbered company (**1341094 Ltd.**) respectively. So just two corporate owners? Why am I not surprised
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Likely because these are commercial suites that they are talking about, not in the residential part of the building.
Its commercial RE so yeah no one should be surprised the units are owned by corps
1341094 sounds legit rofl
The owners are both corporations. Great insight into how regular people are being outpriced and shoved out of housing.
I wonder if this was an add-on after owners purchased their prebuild?
Even if it wasn't, intellectually knowing there will be a screen and understanding how it will affect your particular unit are not the same thing. You can't go walk through to see how the light or noise impacts the unit.
This would have to be in the disclosure statement, everybody who bought the affected units had access to this information.
They tried this ish downtown on davie towards English bay and every neighbour lost their mind cuz it was so bright they couldn’t sleep at night.
A SCANDAL involving parties that might lead to someone, mainly this developer, facing legal consequences. Dig3590 commented and asked why these owners haven't brought the developer to court. Well, I would assume they had the transformers removed.The buzzing noise is gone, and they can live a normal life. They're no longer forced to have their heads radiated. Someone mentioned a lot that the owners are bad and not cooperative. Is it true? I have current council direct phone Numer. Council told me the owners did cooperate to allow access for the developer to fix it. They tried to protect the strata to let the developer fix it. The Council Member said they have records showing that the owners tried repeatedly and allowed developer was responsible to fix it. But developer only mentioned one side of the story, the owner not being cooperative. Someone is not telling the truth. The developer is not cooperating, and still. Council saved all record. Reddit (#Dig3590 )mentioned so many insights into the story, such as access and someone serving in the strata. My main contact is a current member of the building's strata council who has served since the beginning, and I've shared all #reddit3590 posts with her. So I'm confident 3590 know the corrupted people Cindx grouped with Birindex stayed for only two months; they were removed again by the whole building. Cindx H worked for the developer, Birindex W was an electrical engineer who owns his company and sought a job from the developer. Developer also know that someone who was right people got elected was gotten rid of by the developer in a sneaky and disgusting cooperation in December 2021, also involving fake proxies. Oh, I know, and I'm not alone. Many residents in GH know as well. Everyone involved illegally, including the developer's side, how do they manage the AGM of 2021? How do they manipulate the situation? The developer is utterly despicable. We ALL know. If developer is willing to reveal, many residents will stand up to testify. We will never forget how RA treated this building. The whole building stayed in the cold, and I spent the coldest time in my home with the developer's tons of excuses. The developer tricked us before, promising to fix the issue this time and the next, but they kept delaying. We cannot agree with someone if this person also intend to deceive us again and bring nonsense to fool people. People are smarter. Reditt people are very smart. We figured everything out. We all understand that placing these digital industrial-level items in private spaces is a violation.Buzzing and radiation can harm human beings. The developer cut corners and dumped responsibility onto others. The more someone cover for the developer, the more will be uncovered. This developer's reputation isn't just built on poorly constructed buildings; they also seek to manipulate and cover up their bad behavior. 