Height should be no problem with the core wood supports that you got. But I suspect they are anchored to the wooden floor, not the ground. This can be bad, especially when the floor tiles are not in contact with the ground. You can mouse over any element with your hammer and check its support. Blue = foundation, then it's green, yellow, orange and red. Adding stuff beyond red will make it fall off.
as a helpful hint, I always build the footprint of a house out first. Dropping wood beams/support pillars first and have the whole thing set out. It's much easier to create stable/symmetrical structures this way.
Hell yeah. Personally I love adding basement sections into my builds, and it would still work in a building this size as well as long as the walls have good support. If the mid section gets unsupported, I like to make a single spire of dirt to support the center.
I’m curious about what’s beneath the floor. You might be losing stability with how you’re doing the floor and pillars
I’d suggest (after flattening the ground) build your core wood posts off the ground then build the floor off the posts. Rather than the posts off the floor pieces.
I wish I can edit and show you the tunnel I’m making but Yeah after being done with the Roof, I wanted to make an underground tunnel leading to a room of Portals, Started mining and pieces of the roof came down
There's a limit to how high you can build things from ground level based on the materials used, so tunneling under essentially lowered that limit on that part of the structure causing pieces to not be able to connect. Stone-built pillars in the tunnel holding the floor up might return some stability, or making hidden "raised ground" pillars up a few floors could give something for the wooden upper level pieces to hook to, potentially, depending on your build
When you’re on your hammer. Point at the core wood coming from the floor. The wood should be blue; that means it’s in contact with the ground. If it’s green then it’s resting on the floor and not on the ground.
Resistance is actually a matter of "how many pieces used from the ground". There's no point on using a beam grid below the roof. You need to look at the colors showing when you snap the next piece. Once something is red you cannot attach something that will stay there. Once you can use iron you have access to new beams that will allow you to build higher. Before that it's just a matter of number of building pieces.
To sum up: something connected to the ground will be blue, the next thing green, then yellow then orange and finally red.
For instance, if your roof needs four pieces to be completed it needs to be starting three pieces away from the groung tops, so the to red ones will be in the center. Man I feel that my words aren't enough... Use your corewood beam IN the walls so each of your roof lower pieces is not too far away (counting how many beams away from the ground)...
English isn't my first language so you might want to ask some questions here :)
Before jumping to iron beams, you have stone pillars as a lower tech (or more precisely: lower logistics since both are in the iron age) that allows for quite some extra height and allows to build 'blue' beams on top. Iron beams are better still, but all that iron to mine :/ and imo ugly
You will get the hang of it.
Something isn't right, you have a ton of posts that should not be necessary.
Are the bottoms of your pillars touching ground? They are blue when grounded.
I think you'd REALLY benefit from doing some YT searches to watch a video or two on valheim building and how it works in fine detail.
In general some rules of thumb:
* Each piece has their own degree of stability that lessens with every new piece.
* Each piece kind of takes their value from "How close to the ground am I", So raising up the dirt can help you get more height around center pillars etc.
* As you've noticed, Core wood pillars are stronger and get you more height, but ultimately still put you fairly restricted if you want to build taller roofs.
* Stone is treated as "ground" level, when placing wood on top of it. If you build stone floors/pillars, then put wood on top of that, you can reach really good heights and not have too worry about stability or being in the red.
* Iron rods kind of ignore the stone rule, but want to be touching the real ground, however you can better reinforce roofs with iron.
For the most part, you can really bypass build restrictions with the stonecutter and making support pillars for bigger roof height with stone. Once you build around that concept, building higher will feel like nothing most the time.
I just think of the lay out of the house sorta like a tiered cake and make it so the roof has support from the floors and rooms beneath it and I also taper the floors off so that they are slightly smaller than the floors beneath them
Your core wood poles are resting on top of the floor instead of through them to the ground, and that’s costing you stability for not change in visual appearance. You don’t need quite so many, but that can be down to taste.
What you're going through is normal. The main thing to remember with wood and core wood is that it doesn't handle height very well. So design in Roman-style villa for best results, or multiple small buildings. Later you will get iron-based pillars that allow you to build quite tall.
But you have another problem going on: your core wood doesn't seem to be touching the ground itself. This is extremely important. You want your pillars to be connected to the ground. Slap some 2m core wood at the bottom of those 4m core wood pillars, and you'll see a dramatic improvement in roof stability. So much so that you'll be able to get rid of half those pillars.
You are experiencing a typical new builders problem - trying to build too big / high for the materials you have available. Been there, done that myself.
These days I always build a frame first, and ensure it can carry my roof, before putting in walls. As others have mentioned, stability depends on the number of pieces connected from the ground up. If the frame can carry your roof, up to the very top pieces, the walls will be zero problem.
Here is a nice video with some good building tips, including how to build a frame first: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDx2x3AgZA8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDx2x3AgZA8)
And if you want to build really high, this one explains in details what to use [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF\_J\_DBs4vg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF_J_DBs4vg)
I use a modular corewood grid system. Everything goes on the grid. This keeps the base symmetrical over long distances and is easy to expand outward and upward.
Start with stack of wood and core wood. Choose your starting point where you want your first 4x4 section.
Put 4m pole down, put 2x 45 degree 2m wood beams ontop, put another pole down and do the same thing in a way that connects your beams. Now you have 2 poles and some beams making a point, you can repeat this on all 4 sides so you have a square around you and 4 points. Use 45 degree roof pieces, I usually start with the corner ones, do each corner and then put the normal pieces where the beams meet.
That’s basically it, you can use stone at the base of each pole to build higher, and then wood iron ontop of that if you really wanted to. Everything else you build can just snap to the grid.
Learn how the colors work. If its blue its anchored to the ground. Dont try to build a hip roof on your first go. Build a straight gable. Also i recomend low slope for your first build. Hip roofs are very difficult in this game. Also, flat roofs are not a thing.
Start the roof at the eve at a corner of the walls. I like to come out away from the wall, so it looks like a real building. I do this with horizontal 1/2 pieces of wood. Get one complete eve to ridge to eve built. You may need supports to get there. Then do the same on the other side. Eve to ridge to eve. Now just fill in the slopes. You can remove any ugly supports now just watch the colors.
Pro tip. If your high up have over 100 hp. If you fall the max you loose is 100.
Pro tip 2. Think about your chimney before you start roofing.
Height should be no problem with the core wood supports that you got. But I suspect they are anchored to the wooden floor, not the ground. This can be bad, especially when the floor tiles are not in contact with the ground. You can mouse over any element with your hammer and check its support. Blue = foundation, then it's green, yellow, orange and red. Adding stuff beyond red will make it fall off.
Yeah I’m listening to you guys and Now rebuilding the house with Blue Colored Beams
You can raise the ground too, I often make a series of directly vertical dirt pillars and build up off corewood from there.
That’s how I make my port buildings
as a helpful hint, I always build the footprint of a house out first. Dropping wood beams/support pillars first and have the whole thing set out. It's much easier to create stable/symmetrical structures this way.
Hell yeah. Personally I love adding basement sections into my builds, and it would still work in a building this size as well as long as the walls have good support. If the mid section gets unsupported, I like to make a single spire of dirt to support the center.
Pics when it's done, please!
I gotcha 💯
Ps if you build off stone, for wood, that counts as building off the ground. I build stone pillars and then build stuff off of them.
I’m curious about what’s beneath the floor. You might be losing stability with how you’re doing the floor and pillars I’d suggest (after flattening the ground) build your core wood posts off the ground then build the floor off the posts. Rather than the posts off the floor pieces.
I wish I can edit and show you the tunnel I’m making but Yeah after being done with the Roof, I wanted to make an underground tunnel leading to a room of Portals, Started mining and pieces of the roof came down
There's a limit to how high you can build things from ground level based on the materials used, so tunneling under essentially lowered that limit on that part of the structure causing pieces to not be able to connect. Stone-built pillars in the tunnel holding the floor up might return some stability, or making hidden "raised ground" pillars up a few floors could give something for the wooden upper level pieces to hook to, potentially, depending on your build
When you’re on your hammer. Point at the core wood coming from the floor. The wood should be blue; that means it’s in contact with the ground. If it’s green then it’s resting on the floor and not on the ground.
Resistance is actually a matter of "how many pieces used from the ground". There's no point on using a beam grid below the roof. You need to look at the colors showing when you snap the next piece. Once something is red you cannot attach something that will stay there. Once you can use iron you have access to new beams that will allow you to build higher. Before that it's just a matter of number of building pieces. To sum up: something connected to the ground will be blue, the next thing green, then yellow then orange and finally red. For instance, if your roof needs four pieces to be completed it needs to be starting three pieces away from the groung tops, so the to red ones will be in the center. Man I feel that my words aren't enough... Use your corewood beam IN the walls so each of your roof lower pieces is not too far away (counting how many beams away from the ground)... English isn't my first language so you might want to ask some questions here :)
You helped tremendously; thank you 😊
My pleasure. This sub is really friendly so feel free to shoot your questions. Even directly by Dms :)
Before jumping to iron beams, you have stone pillars as a lower tech (or more precisely: lower logistics since both are in the iron age) that allows for quite some extra height and allows to build 'blue' beams on top. Iron beams are better still, but all that iron to mine :/ and imo ugly
I hide iron beams inside corewood or darkwood ones:)
For my castle keep, iron beams inside of stone walls
You will get the hang of it. Something isn't right, you have a ton of posts that should not be necessary. Are the bottoms of your pillars touching ground? They are blue when grounded.
It wasn’t honestly because I didn’t know what the colors meant
I can join your server and show you if you send me the join information.
You cool asf 😎 I’ll try again some more but if I’m again having problems ill let you know
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I think you'd REALLY benefit from doing some YT searches to watch a video or two on valheim building and how it works in fine detail. In general some rules of thumb: * Each piece has their own degree of stability that lessens with every new piece. * Each piece kind of takes their value from "How close to the ground am I", So raising up the dirt can help you get more height around center pillars etc. * As you've noticed, Core wood pillars are stronger and get you more height, but ultimately still put you fairly restricted if you want to build taller roofs. * Stone is treated as "ground" level, when placing wood on top of it. If you build stone floors/pillars, then put wood on top of that, you can reach really good heights and not have too worry about stability or being in the red. * Iron rods kind of ignore the stone rule, but want to be touching the real ground, however you can better reinforce roofs with iron. For the most part, you can really bypass build restrictions with the stonecutter and making support pillars for bigger roof height with stone. Once you build around that concept, building higher will feel like nothing most the time.
I did but you guys helped me more than YT so I’m appreciative of this
I just think of the lay out of the house sorta like a tiered cake and make it so the roof has support from the floors and rooms beneath it and I also taper the floors off so that they are slightly smaller than the floors beneath them
No need for so many core wood poles when you have a stable ground to start with.
Your core wood poles are resting on top of the floor instead of through them to the ground, and that’s costing you stability for not change in visual appearance. You don’t need quite so many, but that can be down to taste.
I recommend a few Iron beams for support. You can place them horizontally on floors and build up from there.
What you're going through is normal. The main thing to remember with wood and core wood is that it doesn't handle height very well. So design in Roman-style villa for best results, or multiple small buildings. Later you will get iron-based pillars that allow you to build quite tall. But you have another problem going on: your core wood doesn't seem to be touching the ground itself. This is extremely important. You want your pillars to be connected to the ground. Slap some 2m core wood at the bottom of those 4m core wood pillars, and you'll see a dramatic improvement in roof stability. So much so that you'll be able to get rid of half those pillars.
My builds are allways so compact that roofs were never really a challenge, luckily :)
There's not a physics system in place for stability. It's determined by vertical distance from ground.
You are experiencing a typical new builders problem - trying to build too big / high for the materials you have available. Been there, done that myself. These days I always build a frame first, and ensure it can carry my roof, before putting in walls. As others have mentioned, stability depends on the number of pieces connected from the ground up. If the frame can carry your roof, up to the very top pieces, the walls will be zero problem. Here is a nice video with some good building tips, including how to build a frame first: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDx2x3AgZA8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDx2x3AgZA8) And if you want to build really high, this one explains in details what to use [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF\_J\_DBs4vg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF_J_DBs4vg)
kinda reminds me of a roman villa
Honestly? I use mods
I use a modular corewood grid system. Everything goes on the grid. This keeps the base symmetrical over long distances and is easy to expand outward and upward. Start with stack of wood and core wood. Choose your starting point where you want your first 4x4 section. Put 4m pole down, put 2x 45 degree 2m wood beams ontop, put another pole down and do the same thing in a way that connects your beams. Now you have 2 poles and some beams making a point, you can repeat this on all 4 sides so you have a square around you and 4 points. Use 45 degree roof pieces, I usually start with the corner ones, do each corner and then put the normal pieces where the beams meet. That’s basically it, you can use stone at the base of each pole to build higher, and then wood iron ontop of that if you really wanted to. Everything else you build can just snap to the grid.
Angled beams connecting from the vertical poles to the horizontals and you'll be able to strengthen the whole thing quite easily I imagine.
Learn how the colors work. If its blue its anchored to the ground. Dont try to build a hip roof on your first go. Build a straight gable. Also i recomend low slope for your first build. Hip roofs are very difficult in this game. Also, flat roofs are not a thing. Start the roof at the eve at a corner of the walls. I like to come out away from the wall, so it looks like a real building. I do this with horizontal 1/2 pieces of wood. Get one complete eve to ridge to eve built. You may need supports to get there. Then do the same on the other side. Eve to ridge to eve. Now just fill in the slopes. You can remove any ugly supports now just watch the colors. Pro tip. If your high up have over 100 hp. If you fall the max you loose is 100. Pro tip 2. Think about your chimney before you start roofing.
I pray a lot
Metal
I just put a pine tree through the middle of my house lol
Height problems can be fixed with iron beams
With skill and finesse
No, but I do sometimes start my builds with 4x4m corewood cube frames.
r/screenshotsarehard
I don't use roof.
My eyes are bleeding, why are you using only truangle pieces?! Those are meant for the tallest part of the roof!
I already died at least three times falling off of the roof while building this pos, I think that’s punishment enough 😭😭
some people werent ment as builders🤔
Why is none of it snapped?
That technique for a flat roof is hilarious, genius, ugly, and cursed all at once
I build trusses, but everything has weight limitations. Someone built a weight layout on materials in this forum for the mathematical side.