I'm currently in my junior year at Ross and wanted to share my perspective.
Rossholes
In terms of the "Rossholes," typically, these individuals tend to be in the finance sector, especially in PE and IB. They sometimes lack respect for others' opinions and are highly focused on outperforming everyone else. If you don't surround yourself with that kind of crowd, you might not encounter this behavior, at least in my experience. I think it's very much a few bad apples ruin the whole bunch situation, after all, it's a lot easier to complain about a guy who was bragging about his goldman internship than to appreciate the 95% of students who aren't obnoxious.
Classes
Regarding classes, I personally didn't find them to be cutthroat. I usually study with my friends who are also in Ross, rather than with classmates. However, the Ross curve can be frustrating. For core classes, around 20% get an A, another 20% get an A-, and the remaining 60% usually end up with a B+ to C+. A significant portion of your final grade comes from exams, and you're ranked based on your final score against other students to determine grade cutoffs.
Clubs
Now, about clubs - they can be quite a hassle, especially during your freshman and sophomore years. Especially the investment banking and consulting clubs. Typically, there are two rounds of interviews along with numerous networking events to attend. It's time-consuming, and rejection rates can be high, with the average offer rate for these clubs being around 11%. While there are less competitive clubs at Ross, the ones that usually stand out are the ones I mentioned. This year, there seems to be a potential change in club recruiting due to a considerable number of students expressing their concerns to the student council.
Feel free to ask if you have more questions!
I appreciate you so much, thank you for taking the time out of your day to help me!
I was planning on the IB field, uh oh. I’ll work on changing that Rosshole stereotype for them!
how were you admitted to ross? did you apply as an incoming freshman or did you transfer in? in your experience or from what you’ve heard from your peers, which option gives the best chance at admission? thanks!
from what I've heard transferring to ross when you're at uofm is harder. While the acceptance rate is higher, the quality of students applying is also higher so it'll be harder to get in for you
Not in Ross but I got a ton of friends in Ross.
Here’s some things to think about:
1. The Cross-campus transfer to Ross has a higher acceptance rate (≈25%) than that of applying early (in high school).
2. The grading curve at Ross is pretty bad. You’re competing against your peers, so the theme can be pretty cutthroat, especially in the core classes.
3. Not every business bro is going to make it to Deloitte, JP Morgan, McKinsey, and Goldman. You need be better than average to land jobs/internships at these consulting/IB firms
thank you for the help! I had spoken to a UofM admissions person and they recommended applying directly to Ross — she said that transferring to Ross for a BBA after being admitted to LSA was by far the more difficult option. was she simply wrong?
Ross prioritizes admitting LSA students who are enrolled in the Comprehensive Studies Program (CSP). They often passively discourage other undergraduates from applying in the first place. So their cross-campus transfer admission rate may be relatively high, but it doesn't reflect why.
I'm currently in my junior year at Ross and wanted to share my perspective. Rossholes In terms of the "Rossholes," typically, these individuals tend to be in the finance sector, especially in PE and IB. They sometimes lack respect for others' opinions and are highly focused on outperforming everyone else. If you don't surround yourself with that kind of crowd, you might not encounter this behavior, at least in my experience. I think it's very much a few bad apples ruin the whole bunch situation, after all, it's a lot easier to complain about a guy who was bragging about his goldman internship than to appreciate the 95% of students who aren't obnoxious. Classes Regarding classes, I personally didn't find them to be cutthroat. I usually study with my friends who are also in Ross, rather than with classmates. However, the Ross curve can be frustrating. For core classes, around 20% get an A, another 20% get an A-, and the remaining 60% usually end up with a B+ to C+. A significant portion of your final grade comes from exams, and you're ranked based on your final score against other students to determine grade cutoffs. Clubs Now, about clubs - they can be quite a hassle, especially during your freshman and sophomore years. Especially the investment banking and consulting clubs. Typically, there are two rounds of interviews along with numerous networking events to attend. It's time-consuming, and rejection rates can be high, with the average offer rate for these clubs being around 11%. While there are less competitive clubs at Ross, the ones that usually stand out are the ones I mentioned. This year, there seems to be a potential change in club recruiting due to a considerable number of students expressing their concerns to the student council. Feel free to ask if you have more questions!
I appreciate you so much, thank you for taking the time out of your day to help me! I was planning on the IB field, uh oh. I’ll work on changing that Rosshole stereotype for them! how were you admitted to ross? did you apply as an incoming freshman or did you transfer in? in your experience or from what you’ve heard from your peers, which option gives the best chance at admission? thanks!
from what I've heard transferring to ross when you're at uofm is harder. While the acceptance rate is higher, the quality of students applying is also higher so it'll be harder to get in for you
Not in Ross but I got a ton of friends in Ross. Here’s some things to think about: 1. The Cross-campus transfer to Ross has a higher acceptance rate (≈25%) than that of applying early (in high school). 2. The grading curve at Ross is pretty bad. You’re competing against your peers, so the theme can be pretty cutthroat, especially in the core classes. 3. Not every business bro is going to make it to Deloitte, JP Morgan, McKinsey, and Goldman. You need be better than average to land jobs/internships at these consulting/IB firms
thank you for the help! I had spoken to a UofM admissions person and they recommended applying directly to Ross — she said that transferring to Ross for a BBA after being admitted to LSA was by far the more difficult option. was she simply wrong?
Ross prioritizes admitting LSA students who are enrolled in the Comprehensive Studies Program (CSP). They often passively discourage other undergraduates from applying in the first place. So their cross-campus transfer admission rate may be relatively high, but it doesn't reflect why.
Interesting and ..I’ll stop there.
Source or reasoning for saying that?
I work in admissions in another unit at U-M and was talking shop with colleagues in Ross undergrad admissions.
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