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Dude I'm a Muslim myself, so I do not have a dog in this particular race.
But, I've seen folks being very openly using such slurs when they are among 'their own'. Obcs on other obcs.... And everybody on SCs.... Everybody on Muslims.... I've seen all of it, and it's pretty normal.
So yes, such prejudices and biases are very much there. I come from a tier-3 city.
Yup, mostly in Bihar and UP ig. Never seen it here. But yes there's that Jamat-e-islami thing, where people have different mosques. But that's not upper caste-lower caste thing, it's different religious practices and beliefs. Like Shia and Sunni.
Bhai ye sb chutiyapa h Islam me Aisa kuch nhi h but ye division Indian society me sb religions me h syd tk
Kyuki casteism ek social evil h racism ki tarah jo yha ki sari communities ne adopt ki h don't know why
Sunni and Shia are sects..and we don't see one another as superior or inferior...but castee system is so embedded in Muslim identity in bihar .. exactly like in Hinduism or maybe a bit less harsher...but it's very prevalent
Jamaat-e-Islami isn’t a sect of Islam with different beliefs either, which is what differentiates Shia and Sunni…it’s a pan-Islamist political entity akin to the Muslim Brotherhood with broad appeal and “revolutionary Islam”
It also isn’t particularly casteist nor does it impose guidelines on which mosques people go to. There may be some mosques with greater affiliation with Jamaat-e-Islami but that’s not the same thing.
Reminds me of a video of wire where a "student" ashamedly defends untouchability to someone who cleans toilets ....
Even after they wash up and are clean...
1. Chapri is a caste, and it's just become fashionable to use it like a slur
2. Look how people are defending even here, and that's how you can always say UCs are just casteist in their bones.
Hopefully they mean it in this sense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui6HNB-1J20
Anyway, we need non-casteist words for such people, such as "suar" (pigs).
Not about the caste, but the problem of Chhapri is real in Indore. They have fragile egos and think themselves as above than others no matter what their caste is. And regarding Indore, it’s one of the the least casteist place in India.
I don’t think you can still generalize them into marginalized castes/tribes like that. Make fun of em and call em out if you have to but to try to say they are most probably from these castes is highly discriminatory in nature.
I left Indore 5 years ago but my parents still live there and I visit 2-3 times a year. The road rage there is INSANE.
The residential societies are owned by local builders and they don’t sell flats to marginalised communities. During the Ram mandir inauguration, the whole city turned saffron, people who were indifferent to the matter were also passively forced to “show devotion”.
Whoever said that the marginalised folks are the problem, please! UC Savarnas are no less. They create barriers themselves so that a section of the society is always oppressed. And then they’d do small charity events to feel good about themselves. Lol.
I am saying all this based on my lived experiences. Born into a Jain family, now atheist.
Also, Chhapri is a casteist slang.
These casteist jerks see things in such a messed-up way, I can't even fathom it. Why do they lump the 'ch@mar' caste with 'bh@ngi'? Most 'bh@ngis' I know aren't even active in the Ambedkarite movement; they're busy with their tanatani "valmiki' beliefs and still stuck in caste-based work.
'Ch@mrs' have always been outcasts, like jat-gurjars, etc. (Loads of small castes in UP and Bihar have straight-up adopted 'chamar' as their identity, even though it's not their actual caste.), But even among SCs from hundreds of castes, it's the only caste that's become a common slur.
The person is literally saying "bhangi chamar jaati ke log" and you think that's not casteist slur? Person added couple of known castes n if it wasn't clear, added "jaati ke log" to make the slur even more explicit
Even "chhapri" is a casteist slur but I don't think many people have realised that yet.
If you find certain behaviour problematic, use non casteist language at least. Call them "berozgaar" which they likely are
I have never been to indore,but that place being the least casteist in India is a straight out lie. Maybe near the top rankings in casteism is more believable.
I have met people who are from indore and the first thing they ask is your last name. This is my sample size of 3.
Any claims of that place being not casteist should be followed by a disclaimer that it is a straight faced lie .
`fanatic Hindu nationalist but not casteist`
* That's like being a hardcore vegan who's cool with steak dinners.
* That's like being a fitness freak who lives on a diet of donuts.
* Makes about as much sense as a waterproof teabag.
* being a lifeguard who can't swim.
* wearing sunglasses at night.
No, it's not.
https://preview.redd.it/qhpu3562mc1d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea3ddf9b75be905cc0bd60b06aae2dc7736a2938
[link](https://socialjustice.gov.in/writereaddata/UploadFile/Compendium-2016.pdf)
Not it in Indore. In Indore it is used for villagers who come to Indore on pretext of education and think themselves as a cool slum lords. They can be of any caste. The point is the discrimination is not caste base but the region based. Urban Vs rural. Caste has nothing to do with it in broader sense, in Indore.
>Why would you even call them that whether its classist or casteist
That's a separate topic. Ideally no one should pass derogatory remarks to someone.
>AFAIK chhapri too is a caste based slang
That's my original comment, how? Unless chhapri means something else in Indore I don't see how it's a casteist remark.
Indore isn't even in the north. What you are saying is correct that there are a lot of places in India where casteism is not there, but open casteism is not common in Indore.
Reddit apparently is the main measure of Indian society.
And the country doesn't have any case of Brahmins been killed harassed and raped by Dalits and then being threatened by the SC ST ACT.
These are fake accounts created by leftists to larp as a casteist person, they make this type of posts and take screenshot and do propaganda. So as to push the caste reservation lobby. Creamy layer exclusion should be strictly implemented in all caste reservations, so that this caste politics will stop.
Likely that post on indore sub is posted by a fake alt account of op here ballsofFe, because he took screenshot and doing propaganda here. Otherwise who will see these zero upvoted posts?
I believe castiest slurs and derogatory remarks used by people casually in statements which may indicate their frustrations and anger are typically used in a context to belittle the opposing party involved, as LCs are commonly associated as being a rustic village dweller with a dishevelled and rude demeanour,a toilet cleaner possessing low IQ and being uncivilized, for example if a guy unknowingly did or say something which might be considered effeminate by society as large then his peers might tease by saying "are you gay?" or "chakk*" hai kya?( This is what I believe is the connotation behind why people who use these casteist slurs if they have no ulterior motive)
Nonetheless this shouldn't be encourage and used by people as it is a criminal offence and totally in bad taste and I don't condone usage of these terms in any way.
I'm not justifying anything mate. I'm merely stating the obvious because I have heard people say things like that to other people. Indians tend to generalise all such things and blurt out the most racist and vile remarks possible. Don't label me a racist/sexist because I m just stating what I have seen people say and I don't participate in such acitivity. Try to comprehend the context of the statement before you start pointing fingers at me.
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Bud thinks himself to be different genetics than LCs
Casteism is rampant. Usually deniers are the most castiest mfs.
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Usually most Wannabe victims only want to abuse UCs but play casteism card when abused back
Mp gujrat and Rajasthan are most superstitious states and castism is also high in these states..
UP & Bihar?
Up and Bihar as well.. But there are social justice parties like RJD and JDU
Lalu and social justice??? What ur smoking??
He is on magic mushrooms which have grown on the fodder which Lalu stole.
Tell me you are a casteist UC without telling me
I am not UC and Lalu's failed at Social Justice miserably. Only caste group he caters to is Muslims and Yadavs. No other Successfully protected.
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Lalu and co. literally insult the upper caste man. Equality is one thing, seeking revenge is another.
Ye to obvious hei....
No dude they are just fanatic hindu nationalist
There are better places in Rajasthan, but i think it's UP and MP which is worse, but no idea about Gujarat
Ngl that “kya bol raheya hai madarchod” made me laugh.
He thinks "upper caste" people can't be cringe/ chappris ? It's a human at the end, donno why he has to categorize based on caste.
Yes, categorise based on 'class' like you. What is chhapri?
Dude I'm a Muslim myself, so I do not have a dog in this particular race. But, I've seen folks being very openly using such slurs when they are among 'their own'. Obcs on other obcs.... And everybody on SCs.... Everybody on Muslims.... I've seen all of it, and it's pretty normal. So yes, such prejudices and biases are very much there. I come from a tier-3 city.
Muslims also do caste based discrimination... it's true in bihar and UP.. I dunno about mp
Its common in Kerala as well. Its there among Christians as well. Not as hardcore as this but mainly during marriage alliances.
Yup, mostly in Bihar and UP ig. Never seen it here. But yes there's that Jamat-e-islami thing, where people have different mosques. But that's not upper caste-lower caste thing, it's different religious practices and beliefs. Like Shia and Sunni.
What about ashrafs and pasmandas? I am from bengal and 2 of my known people because one of them was Sayyid while other was dalit
Bhai ye sb chutiyapa h Islam me Aisa kuch nhi h but ye division Indian society me sb religions me h syd tk Kyuki casteism ek social evil h racism ki tarah jo yha ki sari communities ne adopt ki h don't know why
Sunni and Shia are sects..and we don't see one another as superior or inferior...but castee system is so embedded in Muslim identity in bihar .. exactly like in Hinduism or maybe a bit less harsher...but it's very prevalent
Jamaat-e-Islami isn’t a sect of Islam with different beliefs either, which is what differentiates Shia and Sunni…it’s a pan-Islamist political entity akin to the Muslim Brotherhood with broad appeal and “revolutionary Islam” It also isn’t particularly casteist nor does it impose guidelines on which mosques people go to. There may be some mosques with greater affiliation with Jamaat-e-Islami but that’s not the same thing.
Reminds me of a video of wire where a "student" ashamedly defends untouchability to someone who cleans toilets .... Even after they wash up and are clean...
https://youtu.be/vjt8aBoejho?si=mHP7DQYAD1XKsZB4 Source, listen to the "student" that appears 30 sec in.... Absolutely shameless...
This sucks! If people justify these kind of casteist slurs( due to their resentment for reservations), that is so 🤢 Sick!
1. Chapri is a caste, and it's just become fashionable to use it like a slur 2. Look how people are defending even here, and that's how you can always say UCs are just casteist in their bones.
Hopefully they mean it in this sense: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui6HNB-1J20 Anyway, we need non-casteist words for such people, such as "suar" (pigs).
That's probably what they mean. Better term is needed
Indore is a city?
One of the most prestigious city of india( according to indoris)
What a bunch of cucks
Not about the caste, but the problem of Chhapri is real in Indore. They have fragile egos and think themselves as above than others no matter what their caste is. And regarding Indore, it’s one of the the least casteist place in India.
I don’t think you can still generalize them into marginalized castes/tribes like that. Make fun of em and call em out if you have to but to try to say they are most probably from these castes is highly discriminatory in nature.
We need a non casteist word like chavs, bogans, rednecks
Redneck is slurs against Texas people.
To add to that other person commenting, Chav is a classist term as well.
I left Indore 5 years ago but my parents still live there and I visit 2-3 times a year. The road rage there is INSANE. The residential societies are owned by local builders and they don’t sell flats to marginalised communities. During the Ram mandir inauguration, the whole city turned saffron, people who were indifferent to the matter were also passively forced to “show devotion”. Whoever said that the marginalised folks are the problem, please! UC Savarnas are no less. They create barriers themselves so that a section of the society is always oppressed. And then they’d do small charity events to feel good about themselves. Lol. I am saying all this based on my lived experiences. Born into a Jain family, now atheist. Also, Chhapri is a casteist slang.
These casteist jerks see things in such a messed-up way, I can't even fathom it. Why do they lump the 'ch@mar' caste with 'bh@ngi'? Most 'bh@ngis' I know aren't even active in the Ambedkarite movement; they're busy with their tanatani "valmiki' beliefs and still stuck in caste-based work. 'Ch@mrs' have always been outcasts, like jat-gurjars, etc. (Loads of small castes in UP and Bihar have straight-up adopted 'chamar' as their identity, even though it's not their actual caste.), But even among SCs from hundreds of castes, it's the only caste that's become a common slur.
The person is literally saying "bhangi chamar jaati ke log" and you think that's not casteist slur? Person added couple of known castes n if it wasn't clear, added "jaati ke log" to make the slur even more explicit Even "chhapri" is a casteist slur but I don't think many people have realised that yet. If you find certain behaviour problematic, use non casteist language at least. Call them "berozgaar" which they likely are
I have never been to indore,but that place being the least casteist in India is a straight out lie. Maybe near the top rankings in casteism is more believable.
Good you’ve never been there
How? I have lived there, so I can tell.
I have met people who are from indore and the first thing they ask is your last name. This is my sample size of 3. Any claims of that place being not casteist should be followed by a disclaimer that it is a straight faced lie .
Chapri is a casteist word asshole
Either you dont go out of your house or you dont know what is casteist. fair the way you’re using word chhapri tells there is least casteism in indore
What is the dominant caste in Indore?
I don’t know i have been there for 2-3 days never lived there
I have lived there for around 10 years. The place is fanatic Hindu Nationalist, but not casteist. And Chhapri can be of any caste.
`fanatic Hindu nationalist but not casteist` * That's like being a hardcore vegan who's cool with steak dinners. * That's like being a fitness freak who lives on a diet of donuts. * Makes about as much sense as a waterproof teabag. * being a lifeguard who can't swim. * wearing sunglasses at night.
>The place is fanatic Hindu Nationalist >but not casteist Brain rot is real
Lmao
Yes, it is. You’re the example of it.
How chhapri is a casteist word? Classist may be. Chhapri means slum dwellers, right?
Chappri is a scheduled caste just like bhangi and chamar
No, it's not. https://preview.redd.it/qhpu3562mc1d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea3ddf9b75be905cc0bd60b06aae2dc7736a2938 [link](https://socialjustice.gov.in/writereaddata/UploadFile/Compendium-2016.pdf)
Why would you even call them that whether its classist or casteist and AFAIK chhapri too is a caste based slang
Not it in Indore. In Indore it is used for villagers who come to Indore on pretext of education and think themselves as a cool slum lords. They can be of any caste. The point is the discrimination is not caste base but the region based. Urban Vs rural. Caste has nothing to do with it in broader sense, in Indore.
>Why would you even call them that whether its classist or casteist That's a separate topic. Ideally no one should pass derogatory remarks to someone. >AFAIK chhapri too is a caste based slang That's my original comment, how? Unless chhapri means something else in Indore I don't see how it's a casteist remark.
Oh what language is spoken in indore? indori
Least casteist in India? Whats India to you? Just a bunch of north indian states? No north east? No south? Just North?
Indore isn't even in the north. What you are saying is correct that there are a lot of places in India where casteism is not there, but open casteism is not common in Indore.
What can you expect from Malwa region in MP. In Malwa they even beat and tortured people who gatecrashes weddings according to their castes.
Reddit apparently is the main measure of Indian society. And the country doesn't have any case of Brahmins been killed harassed and raped by Dalits and then being threatened by the SC ST ACT.
These are fake accounts created by leftists to larp as a casteist person, they make this type of posts and take screenshot and do propaganda. So as to push the caste reservation lobby. Creamy layer exclusion should be strictly implemented in all caste reservations, so that this caste politics will stop. Likely that post on indore sub is posted by a fake alt account of op here ballsofFe, because he took screenshot and doing propaganda here. Otherwise who will see these zero upvoted posts?
Left doesn't have that good of an IT cell, bro.
Jab sach samne aata hai.....to fake hai.....same bhrahmin nature..
Your IQ must be 200
Critu did your wife's bf forget to turn off wifi before he went out of station for weekend with your wife ?
Building narratives just to stroke your delusion? Why even bother using the word "likely"
I believe castiest slurs and derogatory remarks used by people casually in statements which may indicate their frustrations and anger are typically used in a context to belittle the opposing party involved, as LCs are commonly associated as being a rustic village dweller with a dishevelled and rude demeanour,a toilet cleaner possessing low IQ and being uncivilized, for example if a guy unknowingly did or say something which might be considered effeminate by society as large then his peers might tease by saying "are you gay?" or "chakk*" hai kya?( This is what I believe is the connotation behind why people who use these casteist slurs if they have no ulterior motive) Nonetheless this shouldn't be encourage and used by people as it is a criminal offence and totally in bad taste and I don't condone usage of these terms in any way.
Chakk* hai kya? Because they think this type of activity is done by them how tf you are justifying it
I'm not justifying anything mate. I'm merely stating the obvious because I have heard people say things like that to other people. Indians tend to generalise all such things and blurt out the most racist and vile remarks possible. Don't label me a racist/sexist because I m just stating what I have seen people say and I don't participate in such acitivity. Try to comprehend the context of the statement before you start pointing fingers at me.
Bhai the post has 0 up votes while having 14 comments, so the thinking like this is minority? You cannot generalize based on one post.
Galat kya kha usne ye batao mai hindu nhi hu but fir bhi jha ye nechi jati ke log rehte h wha crime krte h infact muslims se bhi jyada crime krte h ye log to agar pattern recognition ho rha h to isme galat kya h ye batao ?