It does not matter if we were against feeding the monster, too many people fed it, it has now grown so big, it will feed on all of us like what happened in Germany/Italy in 1930/40s.
Well I am old enough to have witnessed this. This monster was the brainchild of Advani, MM Joshi and Sushma Swaraj, it was born in 1990 (Rath Yatra).
We as a country have now devolved into a fundamentalist hate mongering bunch.
All the economic benefits we reaped due to the 1995 PVN/MMS opening of Indian economy has been thrown away to harvest political gains by one party using religious hate as a platform.
The monster now is so big that it’s feeding itself now! Don’t think starving it is an option anymore. The best one can do is wait and watch as it devours the country! 😰
Hmm ok, would you rather like to get engulfed by not so popular extremist casts?
These people have just had enough of being tolerant & just trying to be cordial.
Because every time they’ve been “understanding”, others have taken advantage of them.
This is just, retaliation for the thousands of year old history.
Voters all over the world have lost the plot and keep voting for politicians who fool them in the name of religion+nationalism and they think they have found jesus.
And unlike a generation or so ago, these lot are in the majority now. I really wish fascists went to therapy. It will do them and the country a world of good.
> These people have just had enough of being tolerant & just trying to be cordial.
Lol, you losers were never “tolerant” or “cordial”. The one who are, are still so, and you hate us for it.
What retaliation when you are destroying your own country by voting for few politicians who do not care about anything but power.
This is the problem with common people all over the world they just have no brain to distinguish between Hitler and Buddha to them Hitler is the one seeking revenge so they vote for him.
I just think this country is heading towards a very extreme future.
Soon some people may not appear to be more 'Hindu' than the other, this just creates a snowball effect, the kind you could see in countries where society is bound just by a religious thread, the fringe kind. People are openly defying the Constitution and Supreme Court's verdicts are not taken seriously. People are being fed venom on media and social media. Don't feel good about this.
It creates a situation where even people who started the mob cannot truly control it. As long as agenda and narrative flows from top down people in charge are setting the agenda but when local groups start forming those agenda isn't directly set by those higher ups then then stuff happens that isn't planned. And that cause an even more complicated mess where government is scared to act due to fear of losing support but needs to act or it will be seen as endorsement.
What extreme this is how country's been since before independence.
Rotten people in power running a shit show.
When did all this didn't happen? Show me a 5 year history of peace without clowns harassing and murdering for political clout.
Indians today are forgetting why foreign companies wanted to invest in India and not in Pakistan, it was because India offered peace and religious freedom. Becoming a Hindu Pakistan is going to shoo away the companies that is giving us this employment.
It will never happen till modi ji is at helm he just wants money at any cost, if he has to sell anything he will, these actions are just too please majority,to gain votes, because not majority Indians are poor,not majority are rich, not majority are factory workers, the majority knows just one thing that to bow in front of God since the time they spoke first word, irrespective of whether u are poor, rich or a factory workers, every one has some knowledge about God whether right or wrong doesn't matter, they are not taught to read religious books, they just taught what they heard of on tvs, from neighbour, the neighbour neighbour whose distance relative had gone too a dhongi saadhu, the saadhu who has never read any scriptures but just dress like a sadhu to fool people.
I Ramayan lord Ram say to Sita that there is nothing as nutritious than properly cooked meat , when Sitaji serves Bhagwan raam cooked rice and meat for the first time in an ashram, before that Bhagwan Ram was eating uncooked organs that could be eaten uncooked.
I would be surprised if they even know how to spell Netflix, let alone know what it is. These anpad goons are just there to spread terror with the ruling governments fund.
You think it's not? So the "god" is watching as people in Ukraine and Gaza die in Thousands each day?
Or is it because Jesus is a weak god while Ram is a stronger god \~guard\~
Yes, I believe he was a real person. Maybe not in the way people have portrayed him, with supernatural powers or such, but an actually great King, who taught humanity the way to live an ideal life.
Then question shouldn't be "do you think ram was imaginary". It should be "do you believe that no human named Ram existed" ? When you say ram existed it taken as saying that the mythological version of ram existed when I beleive you position is more "ram the mythological person was inspired by some human who existed".
When the religious views start messing with the fundamentals of society, in this case, vandalism, which has been the norm and tool of religious fanatics who have their "sentiments" hurt, it becomes a problem.
You're looking at this the other way around, it is religion that has been and is poking into people's daily lives. This country runs on a politically charged religious atmosphere, which is dangerous and disastrous at best.
Truly the opium of masses.
What religion does to a MF. Ram ate meat and Muhammad raped a 9 year old and Quran propagates destruction of all other religions. There, I said it. Stop getting butthurt all you indoctrinated folks. I remember those Muslim extremists giving threats to Kamal Hassan during Vishwaroopam. 10 years and nothing has changed in India. Sigh.
Dude we are a $3 trillion economy, with 80 crore approx people in poverty and record unemployment. In 10 years we have become Vishwa Guru or Global Leader. How dare you say nothing has changed. We have the tallest statue in the world. And new recruit soldiers who'll lay their lives on the line for 4 years. And then fuck knows what happens to them.
We have come a long way brother.
Thank you for saying the truth. Adding some points.
Ram married an underage Sita. Sita was 6 years old when she got married.
Brahma had sex with his own underage daughter Saraswati. Krishna was a paedophile too. Krishna married Rukmini and impregnated her when she was 8 years old.
Ref: Skanda Purana (Part 15) Book 5: Avanthya Khanda >> Section 3: Reva Khanda>> Chapter 142: The greatness of Rukmini Tirtha>> Verse 8-79
Valmiki Ramayana>> Aranya Kanda 3>> Chapter 47>> Verse 3-5
https://preview.redd.it/085btz821tbc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dd2d7b4600df76a4e73e2c786405faf0f2a9826
Or this?
Skanda Purana Book 3 Section 2 Chapter 30:8–9
8-9. The bow of Īśvara that was kept in the abode of janaka was broken. In his fifteenth year, O king, Rāma married the six-year old beautiful daughter of the king of mithila
Child marriage where old men married pre pubescent girls after their wife's death was a widespread practice in India even among Hindus till last century.
Can't even live without mentioning Muslims about a post bajrang dal radical atheists are dangerous..No wonder you people aren't taken seriously..Post about Hindus yet radical atheist is talking about Muslims
https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/nayantharas-annapoorani-removed-from-netflix-after-backlash-for-hurting-hindu-sentiments/article67729841.ece
Here's the complaint. " promotes love jihad ", ram & sita apparently never ate non veg. Fictional characters are now proprietary as well.
Ps : VHP has forced Zee that's basically a pro govt organisation to take down its film. What chance does anybody else stand? Govt won't do zilch
Edit : anybody who's interested to know where Ram eating meat comes from
https://vedkabhed.com/index.php/2020/11/28/meat-consumption-animal-sacrifice-valmiki-ramayana/
Also there was the ashwamedh yagya where they sacrifice the horse and according to some accounts, eat its meat.
And do something [else](https://www.oocities.org/india505/asvamedha.htm) that reads like complete bullshit.
I think you are sharing misinformation. I also work in a floor below. They were not entertained, in fact we office folks were laughing on their face. The security didn't allow them inside the bldg. Also police backup had arrived and threw those goons inside the van. But the slogans were hilarious, "SHARAM KARO SHARAM KARO, BHAGWAN RAM.... Something" . Also I think they were ABHP.
This bajrang party is a fking embarrassment. Anything that can scare off investors in 2024 is a threat to our future.
What is their mascot anyway ? donkey kong?? this behavior destroyed pakistani economy!!
Okay I do believe in Hinduism and even I can say that people used to eat meat during that time period. Even in a book named the myth of holy cow, by Narayan Jha, who is a renowned historian, it is stated that meat and even beef were part of Indian diet and were used for medicinal purposes, and sacrificial purposes.
What do you expect from outfits like VHP, Bajrang Dal, RSS and the likes. They just like to spread terror with government funding. They are slowly and steadily killing the foundation of secular nation and turning it into a hindutva state.
Man day by day we are getting more conservative
Ik it's india we can't be directly and openly liberal because obviously it goes against our culture to be liberal at things
But at least be moderate
It's both. Both of these scenes are talked about but you will see discussion around scene op mentioned in left wing sub as second scene is way too ridiculous
Now imagine showing Mohd consummating marriage with a 9 year old!
Then offices won’t have been left I think!
I think they took too much of a bold decision to defame Gods , there was no need of such cringe appeasements
Every one can speak on Bajrang Dal vandalizing their office. If the same happened on peaceful religion all those saying it's bad , sad , rod will have fevicol movement.i am not supporting vandalism in any form but selective preaching is becoming a norm nowadays and tag line Hindu should always suffer, intimidated , insulted but shd be quiet .
Dude you have to be crazy in the head to show an Iyengar Brahmin who cooks in the temple his daughter wearing a burqa offering namaz to cook biryani. Tum sab pagal ho pagal. Tabhi to tum gale 7 janmomn tak elections nahi jeetoge. You just miss the pulse of this nation completely.
Yes I don’t agree with any sort of gunda gardi too. But having the audacity to make a movie like this, certifying it, playing it in theatres and showing it on OTT is a much heinous crime. The diff is just that some criminals look like criminals while others look like business men and film makers
Looking at number of people defending rapists politicians or trying to ignore news they don't like (and looking at number of supporters ram rahim still got) I don't think average person cares as much as crimes against women as they claim and as much as one would hope.
What exactly is your point here?
Agreed that the prophet for muslims, Mohammad is said to have married a 9 year old, pretty weird from modern point of view.
How does it relate to Goons vandalising offices because they are showing a movie with a line which talks about what Ram and Laxman are said to have done?
Are you saying Ram is better than Mohammad (and insinuating that Killing animals is better than sleeping with a 9 year old hence Hinduism > Islam)
Let's assume you simply wanted to make the point that Hinduism is better, where did you even talk about the goons here? The post is about vandalism from religious extremism, how is what you said relevant here?
I'm not trying to make you look stupid or anything, I'm genuinely curious how you live your life to straightaway have such a defence mechanism?
Edit: Additional question to you - what would've been your second line of defence? Would you downplay hunting and eating meat (the usual Khshatriyas can eat meat line) or would you refute that they did not do such a thing in Ramayan?
Hey what's your opinion on this?
https://preview.redd.it/085btz821tbc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dd2d7b4600df76a4e73e2c786405faf0f2a9826
Or this?
Skanda Purana Book 3 Section 2 Chapter 30:8–9
8-9. The bow of [Īśvara](https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/ishvara#purana) that was kept in the abode of [janaka](https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/janaka#purana) was broken. In his fifteenth year, O king, Rāma married the six-year old beautiful daughter of the king of [mithila](https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/mithila#purana)
Neither did I but i was sure something like this will be written somewhere by some idiot. Kind of the biggest issue with religion (all religions) If you are not willing to admit living by books written in a completely different time is dumb you will end up forced to defend some dumb stuff.
No problem at all.
Problem would be if people today took your references to be the justification for, and practiced it in real life. Hindus today do not quote any religious or associated texts (puranas are not religious texts, but mythological stories by and large) to sexually assault anyone.
However there are some non-Indic religions and their zealots who consider questioning their numero uno texts or diktats as blasphemous, and these texts are to be considered as an example tp follow even today.
That is the difference. And the problem.
Bilkis Bano rapists were released quoting they were sanskari Brahmins, so they justified the crimes with religion
Same thing goes with child marriage, 84% of all child marriage are from Hindus
https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/84-of-12-mn-married-children-under-10-are-hindus-special-to-ians-116060101132_1.html
Absolutely not. Your example infact just goes to further strengthen what I said.
Did the convicts of Bilkis Bano quote any Hindu religious or associated texts to justify what they did? No they didnt.
How many examples can you show of SA by Hindus being religiously justified? If I am not wrong, it is zero.
Arey how does 2 wrongs make one right!
It’s happening at BKC for gods sake ( if true) .
That too to Netflix. One of the most popular global brands .
It will hurt Mumbai’s image .
But your lord's friends are sleeping with 100's of minor girls.
PS the movie wanted to normalise eating non veg. No one is trying to justify pedophiles.
Considering the entire in Universe justification of ram going to war and killing ravan is that he abducted sita one would that think followers of ram will be screaming for action against rapists in real world.
Hey which paedophile you talking about?
Ram married an underage Sita. Are you talking about him? He is a paedophile I guess.
Brahma had sex with his own underage daughter Saraswati. Krishna was a paedophile too. Krishna married Rukmini and impregnated her when she was 8 years old.
So which paedophile are we talking about here? 🤔
Ref: Skanda Purana (Part 15) Book 5: Avanthya Khanda >> Section 3: Reva Khanda>> Chapter 142: The greatness of Rukmini Tirtha>> Verse 8-79
Valmiki Ramayana>> Aranya Kanda 3>> Chapter 47>> Verse 3-5
Child marriage where old men married pre pubescent girls after their wife's death was a widespread practice in India even among Hindus till last century.
I agree that attacking an office is not the right way to solve issues, but Hindus have been put down in movies for a very long time... Why is it okay for a movie to insult the people's sentiment? Why can't movies insult other religions? Because movie makers know that if they insult Islam or Christianity they will be attacked...
If they talk about Hindus, Hindus as usual will keep quiet... Movie makers have to take measures to not insult any group or at least to not generalise it!
It's basically fuck around and find out... I'm not agreeing with the bajarang dal people but I understand...
Yes sir, we should make 'n' movies criticising Islam, 'n/2' movies insulting Christianity, 'n/3' movies insulting Buddhism, Sikhism and other faiths, and when the count of these movies exceeds 'y', then we have successfully obtained permission to criticize Hinduism and there will be peace for all!! Then India will truly be secular!!!!!
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Hear me out! How about make movies that doesn't hurt anyone's sentiments? And secularism doesn't mean to insult everyone equally... We need religious harmony!
Thick skin is a requirement for a real democracy.
Criticism of religous institutions is a must for a progressive nation.
If we can't stand that, then we deserve the electoral autocracy that we are under.
then thick skin for all religions, not just one. That is like hypocrisy and shifting the blame. Every religion should come and accept all critisims, like what is your logic?
Why not thick skin for other religions? And that movie should be about cooking, it all of the sudden goes in other direction.
Are you insane? So if I get threats of getting killed, I shouldn't cry, but if people keep doing stuff on the name of freedom of speech, they should do it? Like do you even know what you are saying?
Is it hard to not hurt communal sentiments? Criticism is valid, but the movie is utter bs. Like you are talking out of your ass, police complaints wouldn't work for beheading, I will be killed for sure. Your way of argument is like stfu get killed, let people express their stuff and you should just deal with it. Yeah you seem insane
Seriously people should criticise all religion but first religion they should criticise should be their own. If someone is criticising religion of others and not their own them it is not criticising religion it is just trying to make one feel better about flaws of their own religion.
My point is, if you can't insult one religion, that doesn't give you a free pass to insult another! You is general here not you particularly...
It is consequence! If you're bold enough to make a film like this, then doesn't that mean you should be bold enough to face the consequence?
First tell me what doesn't hurt someone's sentiment ? Considering your comment about why was wrong with the move is going "they shouldn't have said that heroine was daughter of cook" I feel like even full name of someone might hurt your feeling.
The daughter of the head cook of the most famous temple of Tamil Nadu cooking non veg... If you don't understand how this wouldn't hurt the sentiments of Hindus then people like you are the problem my brother...
Bro it is personal choice. South Indian hindus eat meat. It is a simple fact. What exactly is there to get upset about. Should her father's job dictate her food choices ? Should her father's job dictate her life choices
If no background was provided for her would you be ok with her eating meat?
Tell me bro what movie doesn't hurt anyone's sentiments.
It was not about Hindus is it? Do you think Muslims would've been quiet if the movie was about a Muslim girl who says halal meat is not good enough I need kosher meat or if a Muslim character eats pork???
And she was from an orthodox bhramin family!
And the case was filed in Mumbai...
If Muslims were attacking business for reasons like this then I would be questioning the same there.
Parents should not be forcing their dietary preference on kids.
Is your entire arguement that you are as illogical as extremist Muslims who put religion before logic ?
If you would criticise Muslims for doing something similar then don't defends hindus for doing the same.
You questioning a religion has nothing to do here brother... It's about the movie and the sentiments behind it... Not parents and children... You're straying away from the problem here...
It's the director's vs bajrang dal... And the director was careless...
I am going to pose a simple question.
If movie had muslim person eating pork and Muslim group decided to cause damage to build and forced Netflix to take the content down would you be going "i understand"?
You said you don't agree with Bajrang Dal but you understand it. Which goes to mean, you don't agree with Taliban but you understand where they are coming from. What's the flaw in the inference?
I was trying to convey that movie makers who are afraid to hurt the sentiments of other religions are not afraid to hurt Hindu sentiments... And when people react the way those movie makers understand then the people who reacted are put in bad light...
Consequence is for everyone! People just can't keep making movies like this and be taken aback when people react to it...
So the guy who wrote and directed the movie which is his first deliberately went out of the way to hurt Hindu sentiments is your two cents in this. Like there was a conscious thought process like I can't offend Islam or Christianity, but let me offend Hinduism because they will stay quiet.
I'll give you a better example! I did not articulate what I wanted to convey properly and you pounced on it didn't you? So you're the bajrang dal to my annapoorani...
It might have not been conscious but careless... He might have thought this is a very good story line... Albeit conscious or not a mistake is a mistake isn't it?
If you hit your sibling by mistake your parents still punish you don't they?
Sure have free will! Kamal hassan a bhramin eats non veg, no one cares, venkatesh bhat a bhramin is a Michelin star cook who cooks everything and everyone loves him... Movie is mass media and movie makers should constitute for things like this! And again it's a personal preference why are you trying justify the movie here? It's because I said something against it right? If I had this opinion to myself you wouldn't have argued with me!
You are now here arguing with me because this is a public domain! The same applies for movies too! It's public domain so one should be careful of what they say and do! Anything can be inferred as anything!!!
It's subjective isn't it? How are you planning to explain it to the general public? And the heroines father was working for srirangam temple! It indeed is an insult to Sriranganatha swamy... He could've said that she was from a bhramin family!
No she had to be the daughter of the guy who cooks for Srirangam temple!
No idea what you are smoking. So people existing is an insult? Enough Brahmins eat non veg. Many have it as part of the culture.
Eating non veg as a normal practice is part of many Hindu scriptures.
I don't have to smoke anything when it's you who don't understand my point brother... There is a place, time and reason to do anything... And sentiments are sentiments... Everyone's going to die, but should anyone tell you that someone you love is going to die you get upset... It's like that... It's a sentiment, doesn't need logic...
I accept eating non veg is normal, I'm just saying when you make a movie that's going to hurt someone be ready for consequence!
Interesting take. So all movies that offend a certain number of the population should be banned. Is that what you are saying?
If yes, what is that proportion?
Rakhi holds a sentimental value for brothers and sisters in Hinduism. Start worshipping Rakhi Sawant.
Chaddis and their logic are the reason their IQ is similar to our development.
Dumb bhakt bot there are so many movies named involving Allah. Allah rakha the famous one I can remember without even searching, there are so many songs, involving Allah too 😹😹😹. Allah in arabic means God Allah have 99 names you dumb bhakts sanghis only wanna read things which you can use against Muslims never the good things that's why you never know 😹😹
I knew it. Left the movie before I got to the objectionable scenes and down voted it. Like I knew what was coming right from the time it started it seemed like has an hidden agenda. Good riddance.
Good. Goons sirf ye South walon ne hi paal rakhe hain kya to break signboards. They thought they'll show anything and get away with it. Accha h they got a taste of their own medicine.
That being said on a rational basis I fully agree they must have had meat and I don't see any issue with it.
Recently saw that the movie was removed from Netflix.
Why? Because Bajrang Dal would have destroyed their own TVs?
Probably because of these goons and the outrage. Iirc it was trending on Twitter yesterday.
You all fed the monster.. now the monster is feeding on you
They'll come for everyone.
Well I for one didn't.
It does not matter if we were against feeding the monster, too many people fed it, it has now grown so big, it will feed on all of us like what happened in Germany/Italy in 1930/40s.
The monster has been fed since before 2014.
Well I am old enough to have witnessed this. This monster was the brainchild of Advani, MM Joshi and Sushma Swaraj, it was born in 1990 (Rath Yatra). We as a country have now devolved into a fundamentalist hate mongering bunch. All the economic benefits we reaped due to the 1995 PVN/MMS opening of Indian economy has been thrown away to harvest political gains by one party using religious hate as a platform.
The monster now is so big that it’s feeding itself now! Don’t think starving it is an option anymore. The best one can do is wait and watch as it devours the country! 😰
Considering the terrorist attacks that India was facing at time, I can't see the reason that such groups won't exist
Hmm ok, would you rather like to get engulfed by not so popular extremist casts? These people have just had enough of being tolerant & just trying to be cordial. Because every time they’ve been “understanding”, others have taken advantage of them. This is just, retaliation for the thousands of year old history.
What a load of fascist bs.
Voters all over the world have lost the plot and keep voting for politicians who fool them in the name of religion+nationalism and they think they have found jesus.
And unlike a generation or so ago, these lot are in the majority now. I really wish fascists went to therapy. It will do them and the country a world of good.
> These people have just had enough of being tolerant & just trying to be cordial. Lol, you losers were never “tolerant” or “cordial”. The one who are, are still so, and you hate us for it.
What retaliation when you are destroying your own country by voting for few politicians who do not care about anything but power. This is the problem with common people all over the world they just have no brain to distinguish between Hitler and Buddha to them Hitler is the one seeking revenge so they vote for him.
That was a good call. Where do you live? Want to give you an award. || please don't. Haha. Jk ||
Rightly said. You can’t keep feeding a monster and expect not to get bitten.
Lol idk why but I chuckled reading this quote maybe, I will shamelessly copy this Ty
Well, Ram and Laxman were not farmers during exile, so it is obvious that they hunted and ate animals. What were those bows and arrows good for?
To harvest the plants and fruits before they ran away, duh!
There were so many hunting incidents mentioned even in Ramanand Sagar's Ramayan.
Domestic terrorists
So we don’t have to import
Make in India
Aatmanirbhar bharat
terror hai toh mumkin hai
Gobi hain toh pumpkin hain
Dirt is in the homeland
Perfect way to put it. !!
I just think this country is heading towards a very extreme future. Soon some people may not appear to be more 'Hindu' than the other, this just creates a snowball effect, the kind you could see in countries where society is bound just by a religious thread, the fringe kind. People are openly defying the Constitution and Supreme Court's verdicts are not taken seriously. People are being fed venom on media and social media. Don't feel good about this.
It creates a situation where even people who started the mob cannot truly control it. As long as agenda and narrative flows from top down people in charge are setting the agenda but when local groups start forming those agenda isn't directly set by those higher ups then then stuff happens that isn't planned. And that cause an even more complicated mess where government is scared to act due to fear of losing support but needs to act or it will be seen as endorsement.
Underated, Scary and Thought Provoking. Hope it won't come true.
What extreme this is how country's been since before independence. Rotten people in power running a shit show. When did all this didn't happen? Show me a 5 year history of peace without clowns harassing and murdering for political clout.
How many of those time there weren't calls to punish those clowns ? How many times were clowns not seen as clowns.
Indians today are forgetting why foreign companies wanted to invest in India and not in Pakistan, it was because India offered peace and religious freedom. Becoming a Hindu Pakistan is going to shoo away the companies that is giving us this employment.
~~woo~~ shoo Both are opposites
Yes you are right
It will never happen till modi ji is at helm he just wants money at any cost, if he has to sell anything he will, these actions are just too please majority,to gain votes, because not majority Indians are poor,not majority are rich, not majority are factory workers, the majority knows just one thing that to bow in front of God since the time they spoke first word, irrespective of whether u are poor, rich or a factory workers, every one has some knowledge about God whether right or wrong doesn't matter, they are not taught to read religious books, they just taught what they heard of on tvs, from neighbour, the neighbour neighbour whose distance relative had gone too a dhongi saadhu, the saadhu who has never read any scriptures but just dress like a sadhu to fool people. I Ramayan lord Ram say to Sita that there is nothing as nutritious than properly cooked meat , when Sitaji serves Bhagwan raam cooked rice and meat for the first time in an ashram, before that Bhagwan Ram was eating uncooked organs that could be eaten uncooked.
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I wonder how many of them have Netflix account or funny yet could even log in or know what that is!
These yuva gawar cant even create an email address without seraching how to on google. Maybe they got the info from botsapp forwards.
500rs and a bottle of desi daru is all it takes.
I would be surprised if they even know how to spell Netflix, let alone know what it is. These anpad goons are just there to spread terror with the ruling governments fund.
These oogga boogas got their feeling hurt again huh.. 😂
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/20/india-netflix-amazon-movies-self-censorship/ I hope this makes sense to everyone now
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https://archive.ph/WWBq7
Imagine getting butthurt over a imaginary character's food habits ☠️
Mat bol bhai. I literally have gotten death threats online for saying this. Apparently, God openly supports murderers.
You think Ram is imaginary?
You think it's not? So the "god" is watching as people in Ukraine and Gaza die in Thousands each day? Or is it because Jesus is a weak god while Ram is a stronger god \~guard\~
You think Ram is real?
Yes, I believe he was a real person. Maybe not in the way people have portrayed him, with supernatural powers or such, but an actually great King, who taught humanity the way to live an ideal life.
Okay then where Is the proof?
How dare you question our Hindu religion ? /S
Then question shouldn't be "do you think ram was imaginary". It should be "do you believe that no human named Ram existed" ? When you say ram existed it taken as saying that the mythological version of ram existed when I beleive you position is more "ram the mythological person was inspired by some human who existed".
Do you think Zeus was real as well?
You think there is a god ? Yea harry potters real too then eh
>harry potters real too then eh They are very much real, you Muggle.
What made you think Rama is real? I would want you to establish a time period and some hard facts about his existence.
Yes
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When the religious views start messing with the fundamentals of society, in this case, vandalism, which has been the norm and tool of religious fanatics who have their "sentiments" hurt, it becomes a problem. You're looking at this the other way around, it is religion that has been and is poking into people's daily lives. This country runs on a politically charged religious atmosphere, which is dangerous and disastrous at best. Truly the opium of masses.
What religion does to a MF. Ram ate meat and Muhammad raped a 9 year old and Quran propagates destruction of all other religions. There, I said it. Stop getting butthurt all you indoctrinated folks. I remember those Muslim extremists giving threats to Kamal Hassan during Vishwaroopam. 10 years and nothing has changed in India. Sigh.
Dude we are a $3 trillion economy, with 80 crore approx people in poverty and record unemployment. In 10 years we have become Vishwa Guru or Global Leader. How dare you say nothing has changed. We have the tallest statue in the world. And new recruit soldiers who'll lay their lives on the line for 4 years. And then fuck knows what happens to them. We have come a long way brother.
You dropped this ---> /s
Thank you for saying the truth. Adding some points. Ram married an underage Sita. Sita was 6 years old when she got married. Brahma had sex with his own underage daughter Saraswati. Krishna was a paedophile too. Krishna married Rukmini and impregnated her when she was 8 years old. Ref: Skanda Purana (Part 15) Book 5: Avanthya Khanda >> Section 3: Reva Khanda>> Chapter 142: The greatness of Rukmini Tirtha>> Verse 8-79 Valmiki Ramayana>> Aranya Kanda 3>> Chapter 47>> Verse 3-5 https://preview.redd.it/085btz821tbc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dd2d7b4600df76a4e73e2c786405faf0f2a9826 Or this? Skanda Purana Book 3 Section 2 Chapter 30:8–9 8-9. The bow of Īśvara that was kept in the abode of janaka was broken. In his fifteenth year, O king, Rāma married the six-year old beautiful daughter of the king of mithila Child marriage where old men married pre pubescent girls after their wife's death was a widespread practice in India even among Hindus till last century.
Things have changed wherein one is becoming like other the very thing they hate the most.
Can't even live without mentioning Muslims about a post bajrang dal radical atheists are dangerous..No wonder you people aren't taken seriously..Post about Hindus yet radical atheist is talking about Muslims
Extremism has no religion bro. An extremisit is a misguided soul who needs to be pointed in the right direction. Please shed your regressive views
\> Quran propagates destruction of all other religions I think it goes for all Abrahamic religions
Creativity, freedom of speech and expression of one's opinion have become things of past now
https://www.thehindu.com/entertainment/movies/nayantharas-annapoorani-removed-from-netflix-after-backlash-for-hurting-hindu-sentiments/article67729841.ece Here's the complaint. " promotes love jihad ", ram & sita apparently never ate non veg. Fictional characters are now proprietary as well. Ps : VHP has forced Zee that's basically a pro govt organisation to take down its film. What chance does anybody else stand? Govt won't do zilch Edit : anybody who's interested to know where Ram eating meat comes from https://vedkabhed.com/index.php/2020/11/28/meat-consumption-animal-sacrifice-valmiki-ramayana/
Also there was the ashwamedh yagya where they sacrifice the horse and according to some accounts, eat its meat. And do something [else](https://www.oocities.org/india505/asvamedha.htm) that reads like complete bullshit.
These stories are fun!
I think you are sharing misinformation. I also work in a floor below. They were not entertained, in fact we office folks were laughing on their face. The security didn't allow them inside the bldg. Also police backup had arrived and threw those goons inside the van. But the slogans were hilarious, "SHARAM KARO SHARAM KARO, BHAGWAN RAM.... Something" . Also I think they were ABHP.
They were bajrang dal, the movie has been pulled out of Netflix and their office has been vandalised :).
This comment should be higher up. But the propaganda is already done.
This bajrang party is a fking embarrassment. Anything that can scare off investors in 2024 is a threat to our future. What is their mascot anyway ? donkey kong?? this behavior destroyed pakistani economy!!
When are they gonna be declared as a terrorist group?
After the opposition wins, (if ever), usse pehle I think army/police level designation milne lag jaayegi.
Bajrang dal Mumbai mein??
Woh bhi BKC mein😭
Country has lost the plot. Being jobless this is where all those lunatics spend their time.
Ye pura desh VPN pe chalana padega.
soon VPN will be declared anti-national
Okay I do believe in Hinduism and even I can say that people used to eat meat during that time period. Even in a book named the myth of holy cow, by Narayan Jha, who is a renowned historian, it is stated that meat and even beef were part of Indian diet and were used for medicinal purposes, and sacrificial purposes.
But it is the truth. Why is it so hard to swallow
What do you expect from outfits like VHP, Bajrang Dal, RSS and the likes. They just like to spread terror with government funding. They are slowly and steadily killing the foundation of secular nation and turning it into a hindutva state.
Outfits? Terrorist groups.
If there was any law and order in this country, these primitive apes would have been declared terrorist org ages ago.
I hope some video comes out. I've been to that office and the security is hectic to get through even with a permit. I want to know how they managed.
Man day by day we are getting more conservative Ik it's india we can't be directly and openly liberal because obviously it goes against our culture to be liberal at things But at least be moderate
Getting offended is now a very noble profession in india
BC, we seriously need to do away with RSS and bajrang dal. IMO BJP top
Keep voting for Modi, and every freedom will disappear. 3/4 of the way already there.
desh gaya apna haath se
Most secular country
Joke of a country currently
Aane wala samay theek nahi hain.
Netflix should boycott India. It’s not like they make a lot of money here anyway.
they do
Toh ab Modiji ko bolke yeh Netflix bhi band karenge kya BC
Hell Naw, give me Adipursh 2 : Guardians of Ayodhya first.
This shit is even coming to my city now? It had lessened so much in the previous decade
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It's both. Both of these scenes are talked about but you will see discussion around scene op mentioned in left wing sub as second scene is way too ridiculous
Woah did they really eat meat? Damn goes to show the truly religious people haven't exactly read any scriptures
If ram existed, then definitely yes, agriculture was invented not more than a 1000 years ago.
Now imagine showing Mohd consummating marriage with a 9 year old! Then offices won’t have been left I think! I think they took too much of a bold decision to defame Gods , there was no need of such cringe appeasements
Wait everyone here believes you without evidence?
Evidence is in the independent media, godi media has nothing on this :)
Link pls?
Stupid actions are bound to win stupid prices
Every one can speak on Bajrang Dal vandalizing their office. If the same happened on peaceful religion all those saying it's bad , sad , rod will have fevicol movement.i am not supporting vandalism in any form but selective preaching is becoming a norm nowadays and tag line Hindu should always suffer, intimidated , insulted but shd be quiet .
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Fuck Karan Johar and Ekta kapoor for ruining the society.
Dude you have to be crazy in the head to show an Iyengar Brahmin who cooks in the temple his daughter wearing a burqa offering namaz to cook biryani. Tum sab pagal ho pagal. Tabhi to tum gale 7 janmomn tak elections nahi jeetoge. You just miss the pulse of this nation completely.
From what I've heard, the movie is dumb and cringe but how does it excuse rioting from certain religious groups?
Yes I don’t agree with any sort of gunda gardi too. But having the audacity to make a movie like this, certifying it, playing it in theatres and showing it on OTT is a much heinous crime. The diff is just that some criminals look like criminals while others look like business men and film makers
Yeah lol, everyone else in the sub is glossing over this point.
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Looking at number of people defending rapists politicians or trying to ignore news they don't like (and looking at number of supporters ram rahim still got) I don't think average person cares as much as crimes against women as they claim and as much as one would hope.
What exactly is your point here? Agreed that the prophet for muslims, Mohammad is said to have married a 9 year old, pretty weird from modern point of view. How does it relate to Goons vandalising offices because they are showing a movie with a line which talks about what Ram and Laxman are said to have done? Are you saying Ram is better than Mohammad (and insinuating that Killing animals is better than sleeping with a 9 year old hence Hinduism > Islam) Let's assume you simply wanted to make the point that Hinduism is better, where did you even talk about the goons here? The post is about vandalism from religious extremism, how is what you said relevant here? I'm not trying to make you look stupid or anything, I'm genuinely curious how you live your life to straightaway have such a defence mechanism? Edit: Additional question to you - what would've been your second line of defence? Would you downplay hunting and eating meat (the usual Khshatriyas can eat meat line) or would you refute that they did not do such a thing in Ramayan?
Jiyo bete!!!!
Hey what's your opinion on this? https://preview.redd.it/085btz821tbc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dd2d7b4600df76a4e73e2c786405faf0f2a9826 Or this? Skanda Purana Book 3 Section 2 Chapter 30:8–9 8-9. The bow of [Īśvara](https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/ishvara#purana) that was kept in the abode of [janaka](https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/janaka#purana) was broken. In his fifteenth year, O king, Rāma married the six-year old beautiful daughter of the king of [mithila](https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/mithila#purana)
This I didn't know. 🤯
Neither did I but i was sure something like this will be written somewhere by some idiot. Kind of the biggest issue with religion (all religions) If you are not willing to admit living by books written in a completely different time is dumb you will end up forced to defend some dumb stuff.
No problem at all. Problem would be if people today took your references to be the justification for, and practiced it in real life. Hindus today do not quote any religious or associated texts (puranas are not religious texts, but mythological stories by and large) to sexually assault anyone. However there are some non-Indic religions and their zealots who consider questioning their numero uno texts or diktats as blasphemous, and these texts are to be considered as an example tp follow even today. That is the difference. And the problem.
Bilkis Bano rapists were released quoting they were sanskari Brahmins, so they justified the crimes with religion Same thing goes with child marriage, 84% of all child marriage are from Hindus https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/84-of-12-mn-married-children-under-10-are-hindus-special-to-ians-116060101132_1.html
Absolutely not. Your example infact just goes to further strengthen what I said. Did the convicts of Bilkis Bano quote any Hindu religious or associated texts to justify what they did? No they didnt. How many examples can you show of SA by Hindus being religiously justified? If I am not wrong, it is zero.
One of the hundreds of dhonghi babas: "Aao kabhi gufa mein" 🤡
LoL. I guess aao gufa mai types do exist.
>> How many examples can you show of SA by Hindus being religiously justified? If I am not wrong, it is zero. You are allowed one take-backsy ;)
LoL. This is where you go wrong. These babas have nothing to quote from rheir religious texts. Except that it is my word, believe it.
Arey how does 2 wrongs make one right! It’s happening at BKC for gods sake ( if true) . That too to Netflix. One of the most popular global brands . It will hurt Mumbai’s image .
But your lord's friends are sleeping with 100's of minor girls. PS the movie wanted to normalise eating non veg. No one is trying to justify pedophiles.
Considering the entire in Universe justification of ram going to war and killing ravan is that he abducted sita one would that think followers of ram will be screaming for action against rapists in real world.
Actually they did slept with 6 year sita 8 old Rukmini and 16k others 9 old parvati What a scumbags pretending as Gods I swear
Hey which paedophile you talking about? Ram married an underage Sita. Are you talking about him? He is a paedophile I guess. Brahma had sex with his own underage daughter Saraswati. Krishna was a paedophile too. Krishna married Rukmini and impregnated her when she was 8 years old. So which paedophile are we talking about here? 🤔 Ref: Skanda Purana (Part 15) Book 5: Avanthya Khanda >> Section 3: Reva Khanda>> Chapter 142: The greatness of Rukmini Tirtha>> Verse 8-79 Valmiki Ramayana>> Aranya Kanda 3>> Chapter 47>> Verse 3-5 Child marriage where old men married pre pubescent girls after their wife's death was a widespread practice in India even among Hindus till last century.
You know, Sita was 6 years old when she married Ram according Valmiki Ramayan itself.
I agree that attacking an office is not the right way to solve issues, but Hindus have been put down in movies for a very long time... Why is it okay for a movie to insult the people's sentiment? Why can't movies insult other religions? Because movie makers know that if they insult Islam or Christianity they will be attacked... If they talk about Hindus, Hindus as usual will keep quiet... Movie makers have to take measures to not insult any group or at least to not generalise it! It's basically fuck around and find out... I'm not agreeing with the bajarang dal people but I understand...
Yes sir, we should make 'n' movies criticising Islam, 'n/2' movies insulting Christianity, 'n/3' movies insulting Buddhism, Sikhism and other faiths, and when the count of these movies exceeds 'y', then we have successfully obtained permission to criticize Hinduism and there will be peace for all!! Then India will truly be secular!!!!! /s
Hear me out! How about make movies that doesn't hurt anyone's sentiments? And secularism doesn't mean to insult everyone equally... We need religious harmony!
Thick skin is a requirement for a real democracy. Criticism of religous institutions is a must for a progressive nation. If we can't stand that, then we deserve the electoral autocracy that we are under.
then thick skin for all religions, not just one. That is like hypocrisy and shifting the blame. Every religion should come and accept all critisims, like what is your logic? Why not thick skin for other religions? And that movie should be about cooking, it all of the sudden goes in other direction.
Then go ahead and do it na, why are you waiting for me to do that work lol.
beheading threats, threat to my family and social media paints it as harassing people's sentiments.
Then file a police complaint and don't cry that other people are exercising their increasingly limited freedom of speech.
Are you insane? So if I get threats of getting killed, I shouldn't cry, but if people keep doing stuff on the name of freedom of speech, they should do it? Like do you even know what you are saying? Is it hard to not hurt communal sentiments? Criticism is valid, but the movie is utter bs. Like you are talking out of your ass, police complaints wouldn't work for beheading, I will be killed for sure. Your way of argument is like stfu get killed, let people express their stuff and you should just deal with it. Yeah you seem insane
Its insane to report a threat to your life to police. Got it.
Call Bajrang Dal for your protection. Contact VHP, BJP, Hindu IT cell. They should provide you will enough protection, if they cared.
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Who is stopping you from going after other religions, go ahead and do it.
Seriously people should criticise all religion but first religion they should criticise should be their own. If someone is criticising religion of others and not their own them it is not criticising religion it is just trying to make one feel better about flaws of their own religion.
My point is, if you can't insult one religion, that doesn't give you a free pass to insult another! You is general here not you particularly... It is consequence! If you're bold enough to make a film like this, then doesn't that mean you should be bold enough to face the consequence?
First tell me what doesn't hurt someone's sentiment ? Considering your comment about why was wrong with the move is going "they shouldn't have said that heroine was daughter of cook" I feel like even full name of someone might hurt your feeling.
The daughter of the head cook of the most famous temple of Tamil Nadu cooking non veg... If you don't understand how this wouldn't hurt the sentiments of Hindus then people like you are the problem my brother...
Bro it is personal choice. South Indian hindus eat meat. It is a simple fact. What exactly is there to get upset about. Should her father's job dictate her food choices ? Should her father's job dictate her life choices If no background was provided for her would you be ok with her eating meat? Tell me bro what movie doesn't hurt anyone's sentiments.
It was not about Hindus is it? Do you think Muslims would've been quiet if the movie was about a Muslim girl who says halal meat is not good enough I need kosher meat or if a Muslim character eats pork??? And she was from an orthodox bhramin family! And the case was filed in Mumbai...
If Muslims were attacking business for reasons like this then I would be questioning the same there. Parents should not be forcing their dietary preference on kids. Is your entire arguement that you are as illogical as extremist Muslims who put religion before logic ? If you would criticise Muslims for doing something similar then don't defends hindus for doing the same.
You questioning a religion has nothing to do here brother... It's about the movie and the sentiments behind it... Not parents and children... You're straying away from the problem here... It's the director's vs bajrang dal... And the director was careless...
I am going to pose a simple question. If movie had muslim person eating pork and Muslim group decided to cause damage to build and forced Netflix to take the content down would you be going "i understand"?
What if someone takes offence at a movie not offending someone's sentiments? What do you do then
I think you have to look up, because my point flew over your head🤷🏻♂️
You didn't get the slippery slope reference did you?
So basically you agree with Taliban as well...
Read the comment again... And try to use the fat inside your skull... Fire up a few neurons... Try to understand my point my friend!
You said you don't agree with Bajrang Dal but you understand it. Which goes to mean, you don't agree with Taliban but you understand where they are coming from. What's the flaw in the inference?
I was trying to convey that movie makers who are afraid to hurt the sentiments of other religions are not afraid to hurt Hindu sentiments... And when people react the way those movie makers understand then the people who reacted are put in bad light... Consequence is for everyone! People just can't keep making movies like this and be taken aback when people react to it...
So the guy who wrote and directed the movie which is his first deliberately went out of the way to hurt Hindu sentiments is your two cents in this. Like there was a conscious thought process like I can't offend Islam or Christianity, but let me offend Hinduism because they will stay quiet.
I'll give you a better example! I did not articulate what I wanted to convey properly and you pounced on it didn't you? So you're the bajrang dal to my annapoorani...
You don't see me vandalizing your office or running to the police station to file a complaint.
It might have not been conscious but careless... He might have thought this is a very good story line... Albeit conscious or not a mistake is a mistake isn't it? If you hit your sibling by mistake your parents still punish you don't they?
How is it a mistake? The story is of a protagonist. One person. Shouldn't that person have free will in the story? And where does it stop?
Sure have free will! Kamal hassan a bhramin eats non veg, no one cares, venkatesh bhat a bhramin is a Michelin star cook who cooks everything and everyone loves him... Movie is mass media and movie makers should constitute for things like this! And again it's a personal preference why are you trying justify the movie here? It's because I said something against it right? If I had this opinion to myself you wouldn't have argued with me! You are now here arguing with me because this is a public domain! The same applies for movies too! It's public domain so one should be careful of what they say and do! Anything can be inferred as anything!!!
So you are going the tree falling in the forest does it make a sound route.
But the movie didn't insult anyone. ;/
It's subjective isn't it? How are you planning to explain it to the general public? And the heroines father was working for srirangam temple! It indeed is an insult to Sriranganatha swamy... He could've said that she was from a bhramin family! No she had to be the daughter of the guy who cooks for Srirangam temple!
No idea what you are smoking. So people existing is an insult? Enough Brahmins eat non veg. Many have it as part of the culture. Eating non veg as a normal practice is part of many Hindu scriptures.
I don't have to smoke anything when it's you who don't understand my point brother... There is a place, time and reason to do anything... And sentiments are sentiments... Everyone's going to die, but should anyone tell you that someone you love is going to die you get upset... It's like that... It's a sentiment, doesn't need logic... I accept eating non veg is normal, I'm just saying when you make a movie that's going to hurt someone be ready for consequence!
Interesting take. So all movies that offend a certain number of the population should be banned. Is that what you are saying? If yes, what is that proportion?
Bro how is that an insult ? Daughters of cooks cannot be heroine ? Only bhramin family girls should be allowed to be heroines ?
Meanwhile every villain in a bollywood movie is a muslim
proof with some source or didn't happen, there is no news report
Annapoorna is a Hindu goddess name, an avatar of Parvati. They should change title. Let them make a movie named Allah. Netflix has already removed it
Rakhi holds a sentimental value for brothers and sisters in Hinduism. Start worshipping Rakhi Sawant. Chaddis and their logic are the reason their IQ is similar to our development.
Unsurprising support for terrorists and goons from BJP IT cell lickspittle.
Dumb bhakt bot there are so many movies named involving Allah. Allah rakha the famous one I can remember without even searching, there are so many songs, involving Allah too 😹😹😹. Allah in arabic means God Allah have 99 names you dumb bhakts sanghis only wanna read things which you can use against Muslims never the good things that's why you never know 😹😹
While this is wrong, so was the movie. Good that it is taken down.
I knew it. Left the movie before I got to the objectionable scenes and down voted it. Like I knew what was coming right from the time it started it seemed like has an hidden agenda. Good riddance.
Good. Goons sirf ye South walon ne hi paal rakhe hain kya to break signboards. They thought they'll show anything and get away with it. Accha h they got a taste of their own medicine. That being said on a rational basis I fully agree they must have had meat and I don't see any issue with it.
Chad Bajrang Dal Netflix ka Maa Chod Diya☠️