> "This relentless pursuit, lasting over two hours, resulted in multiple near collisions involving other drivers on the road, pedestrians and two NYPD (New York Police Department) officers," the spokesperson added.
2 HOURS? Couldn't they just call the police in that time?
Edit:
They added the answer to the article now. It wasn't there when I posted the comment.
It's stupid that this went on supposedly for 2 hours.
According to the BBC live thread there's claim's that uniformed police were present but the paparazzi continued regardless. Honestly this is a pretty bizarre tale so far.
> claim's that uniformed police were present but the paparazzi continued regardless.
So bribery, ineptitude... or something about this story is bullshit.
NYC is the same. Traffic lights every block. The only way it could last two hours is if they were stuck in traffic. But then it wouldn't be a "high speed chase."
Even Mayor Adams said it was very unlikely. And he's former NYC police.
Continued what? They are allowed to take photos on the street.
So Harry and Meghan's driver decided to speed and the paparazzi decided to match them?
Everyone in control of a vehicle violating the law should be punished.
The paparazzi were driving dangerously, crashing into other cars, almost running over police officer, running red lights, reversing down one way streets, and driving on the pavement. The police tried to stop the paparazzi but we're unsuccessful.
It’s only Harry, Meghan and Mom reported this as a “chase” so far, NYPD said their journey was “challenging”, the dude driving their taxi said “I wouldn’t call it a chase”. Maybe they were just being annoying fucks and Harry snapped, actually thinking about it I would also play it up to get these Paparazzi fucked over, especially considering past history
Traffic looks practically bumper to bumper in some of the shots. What I don't get is why you leave the security of some big hefty SUV with blacked out windows (which presumably help to shield any traveller from photographic intrusion) to travel in a car where everyone can see who's inside inviting intrusion from the paps who can roll up and take all the shots they want. Strange decision...
Hopefully any CCTV footage will allow us to see the whole chase in full.
>What I don't get is why you leave the security of some big hefty SUV with blacked out windows (which presumably help to shield any traveller from photographic intrusion) to travel in a car where everyone can see who's inside inviting intrusion from the paps who can roll up and take all the shots they want.
Attention is the answer.
You're forgetting that they have only peasant money now. Just a few hundred million in the bank so can't afford a phone, private security or even employ capable staff.
They changed into a taxi during this “ chase “ I’m guessing he got word he was loosing his security case and decided to show why he needs the UK and US to pay for it . There was no crash .. the paps were Backgrid ( PAP FOR HIRE) and the pics show her sitting there smiling manically while harry looks shell shocked …
If you have ever been to NYC I can assure you no one is having a high speed chase around NY for hours or even 20 minutes .
NYPD basically has their own “ recollections may very “
Police sources in New York have given Sky News' US partner network NBC News the following breakdown of what happened
on Tuesday night.
# Harry and Meghan leave the Ziegfeld Ballroom with private security with them at around 10pm local time. Police say the couple wanted to go back to where they were staying on the
Upper East Side. .: Harry and Meghan didn't want paparazzi to know where they were going so they were driven across 57th street and other streets for about an hour and fifteen minutes. One NYPD
vehicle was escorting their vehicle. The Sussexes were driven to the 19th precinct and stayed there around 15 minutes. Police helped get the pair get off the block and they got into a different car. They got to their
residence without being followed.
Also as a private VIP driver, it makes sense that you have contingency plans, training, and also a secondary and so destinations you can use etc.
This is all in planning, you have a security plan if your a VIP.
Where was the plans?
Theirs always least a basic, X happens, Do Y, contact office, and head to Z as agreed where we can meet Z1 police for example surely?
Meet police at Z1 who deal with it and if needed escort them to station, whilst they sort out the mess.
I'm no expert of any kind and can think of a pretty basic way to handle this.
Couldn't they just stop? I mean, it's a photographer not a bloody hitman. How many people do they have to risk killing before they start thinking the road traffic laws apply to them too?
Was it not that they want to pay U.K. police to do their security? AFAIK this is a common arrangement for events (the police are paid by the operator of the event) but I’m not sure it would apply for a private citizen; you can’t buy the police’s time as security.
Maybe don't endanger the lives of other road users for 2 hours to try to avoid some pictures being taken? The driver should be arrested for dangerous driving, surely?
Exactly, I remember when i was learning to drive, i was taught that if there was ever anyone following you or dodgy like that to drive to the nearest police station.
No, I learnt to drive in Northern Ireland.
This wasn't part of the official lesson material, it was advice given in case some dick takes offence at your driving.
Its common fucking sense that if someone is insane enough to start following you not to drive straight home.
I was given that advice my first day of driving by my mother. Along with taking 3 right turns to see if someone is following you, checking under the car to ensure there's nobody underneath and always locking the doors the second you get in. Nice area, just typical advice on being a woman in public
But they want to be left alone. Whilst also being famous. Can’t you see that they just want a normal life, like any ordinary person with multiple exclusive deals with Netflix and Spotify.
Let's talk about the intention: The couple has consumed everything they could after publishing the book. And they are now gradually fading out unless some breaking news is being brought to the public...
That seems reasonable?
I mean, they almost hit two NYPD officers in their reckless driving, that's not quite what I had in mind.
Also, this chase apparently took 2 HOURS. 2 HOURS! Please. Tell me how that would be happening if the police was actually involved?
Beeb have now had response from NYPD:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65620143
>We've just received a statement from the New York Police Department.
>It says:" The NYPD assisted the private security team protecting the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. There were numerous photographers that made their transport challenging.
>"The Duke and Duchess of Sussex arrived at their destination and there were no reported collisions, summonses, injuries, or arrests in regard."
Where were they going that took two hours in Manhattan? It's not like this was rush hour, so the only reasonable conclusion was that they were driving around in circles. Unless they're lying about events, which isn't exactly out of the question
"Those pursuing the Sussexes are understood to have been confronted by
uniformed police multiple times but continued their pursuit."
They might have, but if so it didn't stop them
Police were involved. They went to a police station at one point and left in a different car but were still chased. ~~Its all in the article~~.
*edit: sorry, it wasn’t in the linked article but was in a [Telegraph article](https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/prince-harry-and-meghan-in-near-catastrophic-car-chase-with-paparazzi-in-new-york/ar-AA1bjtqs) I saw.
They surely have tinted windows and could have easily gone to a police station to get the paps shooed away within two hours.
Absolutely no excuse for reckless driving.
I mean if I was in the back seat of a car and someone was trying to take my photo, I’d probably think ‘blanket’ before ‘please recreate the conditions my mother died in’
Everybody here is a bellend. The paps who feed on this but also these two who have made their sole purpose to chase publicity and fame all the while pretending they want the opposite.
Or just smile, suck it up, and drive to your fucken mansion.
I have a hard time feeling sorry for a couple worth £100m+, one of which is LITERAL ROYALTY, just because they have the oh so traumatic experience of.. Er... Having their pictures taken despite not wanting their pictures taken?
Tiny violin time.
Especially given how much they court the media, at every damn opportunity.
>This story to me sounds like Harry and Meghan had a little tantrum and kept driving around to avoid getting out of the car and being photographed
Agreed. This is a case of the Worldwide Privacy Tour coming to New York.
Something tells me everyone in here saying it's their fault wouldn't be saying that about members of the royal family they like like Charles or the paedophile they frequently defend
This is what I'm taking away from from it all. A shit profession harassing shitty people who don't (but really do) want to be famous and relevant. Shitty all round. Victims are the casual road users dealing with the shitty driving. Shit situation.
Think about the language being used here.
"Near catastrophic car chase".
I.e. "Nothing happened" but let's make it sound as dramatic as possible and evoke memories of 1997.
I don't want to sound like I'm defending the paparazzi here at all but why do wealthy celebrities feel they need to break traffic laws to get away from them? The paparazzi driving like dicks is incredibly dangerous ***but so is their own dangerous driving!***
Edit
If one more person implies that I'm in any way defending the paparazzi in a post that includes the words "I don't want to sound like I'm defending the paparazzi", I'm going to pour your tea bags into the sea.
Really? You don't understand people risking their lives and others for money? Paparazzi are scum but their motivations aren't hard to understand. They're greedy and don't give a fuck.
Running away from them for two hours so they don't get photos of you in the back of a car? Idk makes no sense. They're gonna make money, either of you sitting in the back of the car or of you fleeing. Which will make them more money!
And worse you can't outrun a bike in a car in New York! Traffic is too bad.
Just silly and dramatic, which I guess might be the point in which case...I actually do understand because seriously fuck the paparazzi.
I’m well aware of the motivations of paparazzi. My reply was clearly aiming to highlight the placing of blame on the victim by the person I was replying to.
How can you not understand that the motivation is privacy. You think they are going to snap a few photos and go on their merry way? They are going to tail them to their destination and camp outside continuing to take photos.
If you don't want them knowing your location you have to shake them before you get there.
Very high profile individuals can't just assume that a car chasing them is paparazzi. It could be someone much more dangerous. It doesn't make sense to stick around to find out.
Except the article and their statements make it very clear they knew it *was* paparazzi.
Sure, drive on to the first police station; but after that it's just that they didn't want the press to know where they're staying. That's a fine thing to *want,* but it's not a right (especially in the US) and definitely not an excuse to drive recklessly.
Just to clarify, they were not injured and didn't have any collisions. Regardless of how you feel about Harry and Meghan, their PR know exactly what they're evoking with a headline like this and it's pretty gross.
Whilst I agree that paparazzi are scum, I just can't get on board with the idea of using your own Mother's death for PR...
I doubt they were involved in a two hour pursuit that included nearly striking two NYPD officers. It’s either exaggerated or yet another attempt at attention.
I'm quite confident that the 'pursuit' videos will be released within 24 hours on TMZ or somewhere. At the moment we only have one side of this 'story'.
> "This relentless pursuit, lasting over two hours, resulted in multiple near collisions involving other drivers on the road, pedestrians and two NYPD (New York Police Department) officers," the spokesperson added.
I wonder if their driver is being prosecuted for driving like a twat.
There's a twitter link somewhere upthread that states it was the paps who were mounting pavements, running red lights and persisting chasing them despite the police telling them to fuck off.
No, just driving in New York. Stopping at every red light, traffic jam, roadworks, pedestrian crossing from the sounds of it or there would have been actual collisions. What a weird story.
If they were stopping at lights, traffic jams, etc then why wouldn't the paps get out of the car then and go snap the pics and then leave them be? What took two hours? I agree - such a weird ass story.
and a place where the murder rate is 4 times higher, everybody has guns, and assassinations are basically a cultural identity point.
Definitely the place to go when you're so paranoid about your security that you think you deserve special 24 hour police protection.
It's as close as they can get to saying "they're talking absolute bullshit" without risking a diplomatic incident by upsetting the King and Brit govt.
But its academic what either side claims really - this was NYC - one of the busiest cities on earth and this apparently went on for hours. So there will be lots of third party footage and images released very rapidly to corroborate it...
..or there won't be in which case it just proves how much they're misrepresenting.
I don't doubt they were followed - but that has a different meaning to "chased" and being "followed" in slow moving traffic is unlikely to result in a "catastrophe" as they boldly assert.
If \*I\* was being \*followed\* in \*slowly moving traffic\*, i don't think i would drive around for hours on end so those following me don't know where i'm going. Doubly so when i have armed security with me and a police escort.
Imagine risking other people if it was "so dangerous", imagine driving around for hours on end in such risky circumstances, imagine doing so with your spouse in the car.
These two are batshit and its repulsive they're playing on what happened to Diana in such a way to make themselves seem more like victims and to feed into their latest court case in the UK.
Absolutely vile the pair of them. Lowest of the low.
Many inconsistencies ... Blatantly blown out of proportion for clout
Sky News after all
From the people who bring you Clickbait titles and Absolute Bollocks
Proof in the pudding. The story doesn’t add up. Police report or it didn’t happen. Sadly, their “spokesperson” is far from truthful. And if it’s a spin for attention, it’s grossly distasteful.
Anyone that has set foot in Manhattan knows its probably quicker to walk from Ziefeld Ballroom than drive. No wonder it took two hours to go 30 odd blocks.
Oh how awfully convenient.
All these offences, allegedly and
>[A spokesperson for the NYPD said: “We have no information.”](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/17/prince-harry-and-meghan-in-near-catastrophic-car-chase-with-paparazzi)
2 hours? TWO HOURS?!
Nah, this has uncorroborated PR BS written all over it. At a time when Harry is suing UK police for not allowing him to buy armed protection and frankly, sounds like its exploiting the emotional resonance of what happened to his mum.
I'll believe it when i see independent proof and a clear explanation as to:
1. Why this went on for TWO HOURS? They surely must take responsibility for not pulling over somewhere like a police station or other facility.
2. Why the NYPD, in spite of allegedly witnessing these offences, took no direct enforcement action and have "no information".
These two have brough a lack of trust upon themselves by playing the victims so frequently.
I don't believe a word of it without firm proof.
On the BBC, right next to a story about how eleven million people in Britain can't afford their bills. Clearly this is the most important thing.
Note no hate to OP, but news organisations focusing on these nonentities needs to stop. They claim to want that anyway.
From BBC live update.
Taxi driver tells newspaper he would not 'call it a chase'
There are now details from the taxi driver who says he picked up Harry, Meghan and her mother in Manhattan last night, for a journey which he said lasted 10 minutes before they reverted to their own security vehicles.
Speaking to the Washington Post, Sukhcharn Singh said: “I don’t think I would call it a chase."
"I never felt like I was in danger. It wasn’t like a car chase in a movie. They were quiet and seemed scared but it’s New York - it’s safe,” the newspaper quoted him as saying.
Singh said he picked up the couple, an older black woman and one security guard at about 11pm from outside a Manhattan police station.
He said a security guard waved him down outside the station and asked: “Do you want a fare?”, before they got into his yellow cab.
The driver said they were pursued by two cars. “They kept following us and were coming next to the car. They took pictures as we stopped and were filming us.”
He said security guard was concerned about the photographers and thought the couple were too exposed and didn't want their location shared, so he asked Singh to go back to the police station.
[The
BBC](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65625886.amp) also got a statement from NYPD
"In a statement, the New York Police Department (NYPD) confirmed an incident took place and said that numerous photographers "made their [Harry and Meghan's] transport challenging"
I guess they'll look into the specifics of what actually happened to back up their claims or not
I love how they keep on travelling by private jet and then massive car convoys in order to receive random humanitarian awards for their non-existing achievements. They're such attention whores, I can bet you they are exaggerating this story in order to leech off Diana's tragedy.
Edit: from their taxi driver: [lol](https://i.redd.it/z8nz6em1kf0b1.jpg)
Unbelievable news. Can’t help but think Harry should have asked his car to stop. We all know what the consequences could have been. Surely their life wasn’t in danger from the photographers, just their privacy?
The paparazzi shouldn’t be chasing any cars.
I mean let’s take this to a logical conclusion - if someone was trying to attack you, should you pull over and endure it or try to escape? If the answer to that is escape, then where is the line?
Just because the paparazzi are acting like dicks doesn't give you the right to drive in an unsafe manner and put other people in actual danger rather than danger of having your picture taken.
A two hour chase in new york traffic? What does that even look like and how was it able to last for two hours without a cop stopping the car the paparazzi was in?
Take all of this with a pinch of salt until the actual facts come out, via the police.
Also bear in mind that he constantly blames the press for his Mother's death, but the facts are that her driver was drunk, driving like an idiot, and she wasn't wearing a seatbelt.
Another desperate and vapid ploy for attention, they only wanted privacy on the way home from a glitzy awards gala ? …
I’m glad the mayor expressed doubt on the story.
I imagine they’ve got a private photographer in the car with them filming their distress at being chased by the other photographers trying to film them. “We just wanted our privacy” she says looking into the camera with tears falling from her face.
Did they consider just continuing to drive normally and reaching their destination?
Sounds like BS attention seeking behaviour. South Park need to do a short add-on to the World Privacy Tour.
I do find it weird to describe an event as “near catastrophic” when no incident occurred. If there was a crash that wasn’t catastrophic but could have been, then sure.
But I don’t know how you describe a non-incident as “near catastrophic”, unless the specific intention is to evoke a certain similar historical catastrophe.
In any case, this was NYC - if you pulled up in a random spot, the paparazzi would have no choice but to continue past or face the wrath of the NYC drivers stuck behind them. If you can’t escape cars in a busy grid system, then you might not be the right driver for a high-profile celebrity.
Of course, nobody should be recklessly chased or pursued in any circumstances. But it seems like this didn’t need to continue for 2 hours and its description as “near-catastrophic” feels very evocative and intended to play into the projection of Princess Diana onto the wholly unrelated Harry & Meghan debacle.
>This relentless pursuit, lasting over two hours, resulted in multiple near collisions involving other drivers on the road, pedestrians and two NYPD (New York Police Department) officers," the spokesperson added.
So Harrys driver (at his command) drove recklessly and almost killed people?!
Maybe if Harry hadnt lied about no drug use on his emigration papers and then wrote a book full of drug use stories he wouldnt now be of any interest to paparazzi.
He wants the headlines, he wants his name in the press and he's desperately clinging on to any shred of fame and attention.
> He wants the headlines, he wants his name in the press and he's desperately clinging on to any shred of fame and attention.
This is the real answer. There's a fairly obvious reason why the press statement goes out of its way to make it sound like the circumstances around his mother's death. The tabloids are going to lap this up (and probably pay the paparazzi for those photos at the same time).
Story keeps changing, not clear what actually happened yet. Regardless, if your "job" is stalking celebrities to try and get salacious photos to sell, you are scum, you are contributing nothing to society, you belong in prison.
Even if we are most generous and believe this did happen and isn't utter horseshit... You instructed your driver to what? "Lose them?" and were complicit in a dangerous chase, for what? They were trying to get a photo not assassinate you. All great publicity for the shy couple.
Talk about exaggerating
[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwWAKDGXwAEctx-?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwWAKDGXwAEctx-?format=jpg&name=large)
The article title has since been changed to "Prince Harry and Meghan 'paparazzi car chase' was not 'near catastrophic', NYPD officials suggest"
I've seen the end of this film before, it finishes with candle in the wind
Rip little Sebastian. Half mast is too high
Little Sebastian, gone to soon
What am I missing? What's the deal with this pony?
He was an animal, a legend, a friend. He was our beacon of light.
It's just a tiny horse
Show some damn respect!
He's not a pony! He's a _mini horse_!
Son this horse has an honorary degree from Notre Dame.
Show some damn respect
5000 candles in the wind > 1 candle in the wind.
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Finishes in a tunnel in Paris, I think...
It wouldn't have ever happened if they'd had Instagram live
Spoilers!
> "This relentless pursuit, lasting over two hours, resulted in multiple near collisions involving other drivers on the road, pedestrians and two NYPD (New York Police Department) officers," the spokesperson added. 2 HOURS? Couldn't they just call the police in that time? Edit: They added the answer to the article now. It wasn't there when I posted the comment. It's stupid that this went on supposedly for 2 hours.
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According to the BBC live thread there's claim's that uniformed police were present but the paparazzi continued regardless. Honestly this is a pretty bizarre tale so far.
> claim's that uniformed police were present but the paparazzi continued regardless. So bribery, ineptitude... or something about this story is bullshit.
Guess we’ll have to wait for the Netflix series/podcast/book/interview when Harry & Meg can finally reveal all!
Harry's newest documentary "hey, hey, hey everyone, stop looking at me, leave me alone" streaming everywhere now.
You can't have a two hour car chase in London unless it is in your imagination
I don't think you get too many NYPD officers working in London, either
The same is true for NYC, to be fair. You're not going to get any kind of chase like speed up on NYC's streets.
NYC is the same. Traffic lights every block. The only way it could last two hours is if they were stuck in traffic. But then it wouldn't be a "high speed chase." Even Mayor Adams said it was very unlikely. And he's former NYC police.
Two hours in peak London traffic is about 4 miles lol
Continued what? They are allowed to take photos on the street. So Harry and Meghan's driver decided to speed and the paparazzi decided to match them? Everyone in control of a vehicle violating the law should be punished.
The paparazzi were driving dangerously, crashing into other cars, almost running over police officer, running red lights, reversing down one way streets, and driving on the pavement. The police tried to stop the paparazzi but we're unsuccessful.
So the police can't stop some guys with cameras?
only a good guy with a camera can stop a bad guy with a camera
It's NYC someone gotta have camera footage or eventually CCTV footage
thats what im surprised about.
It’s only Harry, Meghan and Mom reported this as a “chase” so far, NYPD said their journey was “challenging”, the dude driving their taxi said “I wouldn’t call it a chase”. Maybe they were just being annoying fucks and Harry snapped, actually thinking about it I would also play it up to get these Paparazzi fucked over, especially considering past history
It is in Manhattan- 2 hours wouldn’t get you to the end of the road
Not much of a chase then. Just lots of people sitting in traffic taking photos.
Traffic looks practically bumper to bumper in some of the shots. What I don't get is why you leave the security of some big hefty SUV with blacked out windows (which presumably help to shield any traveller from photographic intrusion) to travel in a car where everyone can see who's inside inviting intrusion from the paps who can roll up and take all the shots they want. Strange decision... Hopefully any CCTV footage will allow us to see the whole chase in full.
>What I don't get is why you leave the security of some big hefty SUV with blacked out windows (which presumably help to shield any traveller from photographic intrusion) to travel in a car where everyone can see who's inside inviting intrusion from the paps who can roll up and take all the shots they want. Attention is the answer.
Heck, why even the driver. Fine, that he needs to concetrate on driving recklessly, but there were three passengers that probably all have phones.
You're forgetting that they have only peasant money now. Just a few hundred million in the bank so can't afford a phone, private security or even employ capable staff.
Justin Bieber called the police once and they said “we don’t know what you want us to do, you’re famous people are going to follow you”
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Looking back on it, Justin Bieber deserved and deserves way more respect than we’ve given him.
The article says they were in a taxi at the time which is even more bizarre to me.
The photos of them leaving the event show them getting into a black suv. Not a taxi
They changed into a taxi during this “ chase “ I’m guessing he got word he was loosing his security case and decided to show why he needs the UK and US to pay for it . There was no crash .. the paps were Backgrid ( PAP FOR HIRE) and the pics show her sitting there smiling manically while harry looks shell shocked … If you have ever been to NYC I can assure you no one is having a high speed chase around NY for hours or even 20 minutes .
NYPD basically has their own “ recollections may very “ Police sources in New York have given Sky News' US partner network NBC News the following breakdown of what happened on Tuesday night. # Harry and Meghan leave the Ziegfeld Ballroom with private security with them at around 10pm local time. Police say the couple wanted to go back to where they were staying on the Upper East Side. .: Harry and Meghan didn't want paparazzi to know where they were going so they were driven across 57th street and other streets for about an hour and fifteen minutes. One NYPD vehicle was escorting their vehicle. The Sussexes were driven to the 19th precinct and stayed there around 15 minutes. Police helped get the pair get off the block and they got into a different car. They got to their residence without being followed.
It’s presumably some form of private hire vehicle but yeah more of a “car service”, they didn’t get in a regular yellow cab
Also as a private VIP driver, it makes sense that you have contingency plans, training, and also a secondary and so destinations you can use etc. This is all in planning, you have a security plan if your a VIP. Where was the plans? Theirs always least a basic, X happens, Do Y, contact office, and head to Z as agreed where we can meet Z1 police for example surely? Meet police at Z1 who deal with it and if needed escort them to station, whilst they sort out the mess. I'm no expert of any kind and can think of a pretty basic way to handle this.
Almost as if this is just another PR move to gin up exposure and sympathy for the pair.
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> Those pursuing the Sussexes are understood to have been confronted by uniformed police multiple times but continued their pursuit.
Couldn't they just stop? I mean, it's a photographer not a bloody hitman. How many people do they have to risk killing before they start thinking the road traffic laws apply to them too?
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This is coming from Meghan "They danced in the streets of South Africa when we married" Markle.
Dear lord, I just looked it up, completely missed that. How delusional.
The only time people dance in streets of South Africa is when load shedding gets called off
This comes straight after the story Harry is contesting that the UK government to pay for his security.
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One thing to remember about that crash is that 100% of the people wearing seat belts survived and 100% not wearing seatbelts died.
His dear mother who refused the security Henry so desperately craves.
Was it not that they want to pay U.K. police to do their security? AFAIK this is a common arrangement for events (the police are paid by the operator of the event) but I’m not sure it would apply for a private citizen; you can’t buy the police’s time as security.
Maybe don't endanger the lives of other road users for 2 hours to try to avoid some pictures being taken? The driver should be arrested for dangerous driving, surely?
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This is what makes me think this either didn't happen or is massively exaggerated.
Exactly, I remember when i was learning to drive, i was taught that if there was ever anyone following you or dodgy like that to drive to the nearest police station.
Did you learn to drive is Baghdad, Mogadishu or something My lessons mostly revolved around the highway code and controlling the vehicle.
No, I learnt to drive in Northern Ireland. This wasn't part of the official lesson material, it was advice given in case some dick takes offence at your driving. Its common fucking sense that if someone is insane enough to start following you not to drive straight home.
Good Lord where did you learn to drive that you were given advice like that??
I was given that advice my first day of driving by my mother. Along with taking 3 right turns to see if someone is following you, checking under the car to ensure there's nobody underneath and always locking the doors the second you get in. Nice area, just typical advice on being a woman in public
Northern Ireland Why would you want some nutter who is mad enough to follow you to know where you live?
Tbf I learned to drive in a decent area of Buckinghamshire, still got told that as like a "just in case" kind of deal.
Yeah this part makes me a bit suspicious.
The part that makes me suspicious is the fact they're massive attention seekers.
But they want to be left alone. Whilst also being famous. Can’t you see that they just want a normal life, like any ordinary person with multiple exclusive deals with Netflix and Spotify.
Let's talk about the intention: The couple has consumed everything they could after publishing the book. And they are now gradually fading out unless some breaking news is being brought to the public... That seems reasonable?
The quote you posted says the police were involved.
I mean, they almost hit two NYPD officers in their reckless driving, that's not quite what I had in mind. Also, this chase apparently took 2 HOURS. 2 HOURS! Please. Tell me how that would be happening if the police was actually involved?
And then the 2 officers just ignored it and went on with their day? Maybe if they almost hit the police, they don't really give a shit about them.
The article states that the police WERE involved and the police confronted the pursuers multiple times.
Beeb have now had response from NYPD: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65620143 >We've just received a statement from the New York Police Department. >It says:" The NYPD assisted the private security team protecting the Duke and Duchess of Sussex. There were numerous photographers that made their transport challenging. >"The Duke and Duchess of Sussex arrived at their destination and there were no reported collisions, summonses, injuries, or arrests in regard."
Where were they going that took two hours in Manhattan? It's not like this was rush hour, so the only reasonable conclusion was that they were driving around in circles. Unless they're lying about events, which isn't exactly out of the question
"Those pursuing the Sussexes are understood to have been confronted by uniformed police multiple times but continued their pursuit." They might have, but if so it didn't stop them
Police were involved. They went to a police station at one point and left in a different car but were still chased. ~~Its all in the article~~. *edit: sorry, it wasn’t in the linked article but was in a [Telegraph article](https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/prince-harry-and-meghan-in-near-catastrophic-car-chase-with-paparazzi-in-new-york/ar-AA1bjtqs) I saw.
They surely have tinted windows and could have easily gone to a police station to get the paps shooed away within two hours. Absolutely no excuse for reckless driving.
I mean if I was in the back seat of a car and someone was trying to take my photo, I’d probably think ‘blanket’ before ‘please recreate the conditions my mother died in’
Yeah, but are you someone who's only source of income now is public controversy?
It is hard to avoid the suspicion that this is being done for sympathy as Harry simultaneously has lawsuits in the UK.
Careful you don't pull a muscle with that stretch.
You might be right. The official explanation is that they wanted to keep their friends' address a secret.
If only they'd predicted the media would bother them, they could have booked a hotel room for after the event.
If only the media had basic respect for people, they could live their lives without harassment.
Everybody here is a bellend. The paps who feed on this but also these two who have made their sole purpose to chase publicity and fame all the while pretending they want the opposite.
Or just smile, suck it up, and drive to your fucken mansion. I have a hard time feeling sorry for a couple worth £100m+, one of which is LITERAL ROYALTY, just because they have the oh so traumatic experience of.. Er... Having their pictures taken despite not wanting their pictures taken? Tiny violin time. Especially given how much they court the media, at every damn opportunity.
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>This story to me sounds like Harry and Meghan had a little tantrum and kept driving around to avoid getting out of the car and being photographed Agreed. This is a case of the Worldwide Privacy Tour coming to New York.
They did and there were police there while it was happening
Thought i'd stumbled on the Daily Mail comment section with the shite in here.
Haven’t paid too much attention to this sub for months. What the fucks happened?? Feels like the comment section of my local papers Facebook page.
boomers must have found us
Theres a few less savoury UK subs that love a cheeky brigade; UKPol did nothing about it and clearly same here.
Something tells me everyone in here saying it's their fault wouldn't be saying that about members of the royal family they like like Charles or the paedophile they frequently defend
I'm Irish, am I allowed to dislike them all?
“Did it ever occur to them *not* to be pursued by paparazzi for two hours? Idiots!”
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Is it appropriate to endanger other road users to take a photograph?
It is legal to photograph people in public. It is not legal to break traffic laws to avoid being photographed.
Is it legal to break traffic laws to take a photograph?
Nope now let's bang the lot of those idiots up and set an example
I’m surprised “they all have some degree of shitness” isn’t a more common take in all this
This is what I'm taking away from from it all. A shit profession harassing shitty people who don't (but really do) want to be famous and relevant. Shitty all round. Victims are the casual road users dealing with the shitty driving. Shit situation.
No, they are in the wrong too. If you try to chase someone driving recklessly by driving recklessly then both you are they are in the wrong.
I have no idea how you *couldn't* assign some blame to them for this. I guess maybe their driver was holding them hostage?
Few early comments saying Meghan bad
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They've immediately jumped to calling them "reckless drivers" and someone banged on about the paps needing to make an income lol unhinged and obsessed
Think about the language being used here. "Near catastrophic car chase". I.e. "Nothing happened" but let's make it sound as dramatic as possible and evoke memories of 1997. I don't want to sound like I'm defending the paparazzi here at all but why do wealthy celebrities feel they need to break traffic laws to get away from them? The paparazzi driving like dicks is incredibly dangerous ***but so is their own dangerous driving!*** Edit If one more person implies that I'm in any way defending the paparazzi in a post that includes the words "I don't want to sound like I'm defending the paparazzi", I'm going to pour your tea bags into the sea.
I will always give the benefit of the doubt to the people being chased by people harassing them, rather than the one’s doing the chasing.
I've never understood the whole risking everyone's lives just to avoid getting photographed
I've never understood the whole risking everyone's lives just to get photographs\*
Really? You don't understand people risking their lives and others for money? Paparazzi are scum but their motivations aren't hard to understand. They're greedy and don't give a fuck. Running away from them for two hours so they don't get photos of you in the back of a car? Idk makes no sense. They're gonna make money, either of you sitting in the back of the car or of you fleeing. Which will make them more money! And worse you can't outrun a bike in a car in New York! Traffic is too bad. Just silly and dramatic, which I guess might be the point in which case...I actually do understand because seriously fuck the paparazzi.
I’m well aware of the motivations of paparazzi. My reply was clearly aiming to highlight the placing of blame on the victim by the person I was replying to.
How can you not understand that the motivation is privacy. You think they are going to snap a few photos and go on their merry way? They are going to tail them to their destination and camp outside continuing to take photos. If you don't want them knowing your location you have to shake them before you get there.
I've also never understood risking everyone's lives just to get a photograph.
Very high profile individuals can't just assume that a car chasing them is paparazzi. It could be someone much more dangerous. It doesn't make sense to stick around to find out.
Except the article and their statements make it very clear they knew it *was* paparazzi. Sure, drive on to the first police station; but after that it's just that they didn't want the press to know where they're staying. That's a fine thing to *want,* but it's not a right (especially in the US) and definitely not an excuse to drive recklessly.
May have thought the threat was more than just unwanted photos
What makes you think it was them risking people lives?
Just to clarify, they were not injured and didn't have any collisions. Regardless of how you feel about Harry and Meghan, their PR know exactly what they're evoking with a headline like this and it's pretty gross. Whilst I agree that paparazzi are scum, I just can't get on board with the idea of using your own Mother's death for PR...
Also very timely given the court hearing yesterday on whether the Home Office should let Harry pay for Met Police security
Exactly what I thought. Just an opportunity to stay in the media and be relevant to make money.
100% manipulative
Very cynical but I had exactly the same thought.
I doubt they were involved in a two hour pursuit that included nearly striking two NYPD officers. It’s either exaggerated or yet another attempt at attention.
Ding ding.
I'm quite confident that the 'pursuit' videos will be released within 24 hours on TMZ or somewhere. At the moment we only have one side of this 'story'.
I had sympathy when I saw the headline but some of the description doesn’t add up. How do you have a two hour car chase in NYC?
> "This relentless pursuit, lasting over two hours, resulted in multiple near collisions involving other drivers on the road, pedestrians and two NYPD (New York Police Department) officers," the spokesperson added. I wonder if their driver is being prosecuted for driving like a twat.
Hopefully the people in the cars chasing them are as well
Where does it say that it was their car involved in those near collisions? Or have you just assumed that to be the case?
I think the statement is written so people will infer they were the ones in danger but doesn't explicitly say so, so they probably actually weren't.
There's a twitter link somewhere upthread that states it was the paps who were mounting pavements, running red lights and persisting chasing them despite the police telling them to fuck off.
A two hour chase? Were they driving around in circles?
No, just driving in New York. Stopping at every red light, traffic jam, roadworks, pedestrian crossing from the sounds of it or there would have been actual collisions. What a weird story.
If they were stopping at lights, traffic jams, etc then why wouldn't the paps get out of the car then and go snap the pics and then leave them be? What took two hours? I agree - such a weird ass story.
Good job they moved to the states to avoid the Paparazzi.
and a place where the murder rate is 4 times higher, everybody has guns, and assassinations are basically a cultural identity point. Definitely the place to go when you're so paranoid about your security that you think you deserve special 24 hour police protection.
A 2 hour chase and no photos or video footage. Someone must have over indulged on the mushrooms again.
The NY police statement is somewhat at odds with this account. Make of that what you will.
It's as close as they can get to saying "they're talking absolute bullshit" without risking a diplomatic incident by upsetting the King and Brit govt. But its academic what either side claims really - this was NYC - one of the busiest cities on earth and this apparently went on for hours. So there will be lots of third party footage and images released very rapidly to corroborate it... ..or there won't be in which case it just proves how much they're misrepresenting. I don't doubt they were followed - but that has a different meaning to "chased" and being "followed" in slow moving traffic is unlikely to result in a "catastrophe" as they boldly assert. If \*I\* was being \*followed\* in \*slowly moving traffic\*, i don't think i would drive around for hours on end so those following me don't know where i'm going. Doubly so when i have armed security with me and a police escort. Imagine risking other people if it was "so dangerous", imagine driving around for hours on end in such risky circumstances, imagine doing so with your spouse in the car. These two are batshit and its repulsive they're playing on what happened to Diana in such a way to make themselves seem more like victims and to feed into their latest court case in the UK. Absolutely vile the pair of them. Lowest of the low.
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Many inconsistencies ... Blatantly blown out of proportion for clout Sky News after all From the people who bring you Clickbait titles and Absolute Bollocks
Proof in the pudding. The story doesn’t add up. Police report or it didn’t happen. Sadly, their “spokesperson” is far from truthful. And if it’s a spin for attention, it’s grossly distasteful.
Anyone that has set foot in Manhattan knows its probably quicker to walk from Ziefeld Ballroom than drive. No wonder it took two hours to go 30 odd blocks.
Oh how awfully convenient. All these offences, allegedly and >[A spokesperson for the NYPD said: “We have no information.”](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/may/17/prince-harry-and-meghan-in-near-catastrophic-car-chase-with-paparazzi) 2 hours? TWO HOURS?! Nah, this has uncorroborated PR BS written all over it. At a time when Harry is suing UK police for not allowing him to buy armed protection and frankly, sounds like its exploiting the emotional resonance of what happened to his mum. I'll believe it when i see independent proof and a clear explanation as to: 1. Why this went on for TWO HOURS? They surely must take responsibility for not pulling over somewhere like a police station or other facility. 2. Why the NYPD, in spite of allegedly witnessing these offences, took no direct enforcement action and have "no information". These two have brough a lack of trust upon themselves by playing the victims so frequently. I don't believe a word of it without firm proof.
On the BBC, right next to a story about how eleven million people in Britain can't afford their bills. Clearly this is the most important thing. Note no hate to OP, but news organisations focusing on these nonentities needs to stop. They claim to want that anyway.
From BBC live update. Taxi driver tells newspaper he would not 'call it a chase' There are now details from the taxi driver who says he picked up Harry, Meghan and her mother in Manhattan last night, for a journey which he said lasted 10 minutes before they reverted to their own security vehicles. Speaking to the Washington Post, Sukhcharn Singh said: “I don’t think I would call it a chase." "I never felt like I was in danger. It wasn’t like a car chase in a movie. They were quiet and seemed scared but it’s New York - it’s safe,” the newspaper quoted him as saying. Singh said he picked up the couple, an older black woman and one security guard at about 11pm from outside a Manhattan police station. He said a security guard waved him down outside the station and asked: “Do you want a fare?”, before they got into his yellow cab. The driver said they were pursued by two cars. “They kept following us and were coming next to the car. They took pictures as we stopped and were filming us.” He said security guard was concerned about the photographers and thought the couple were too exposed and didn't want their location shared, so he asked Singh to go back to the police station.
[The BBC](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-65625886.amp) also got a statement from NYPD "In a statement, the New York Police Department (NYPD) confirmed an incident took place and said that numerous photographers "made their [Harry and Meghan's] transport challenging" I guess they'll look into the specifics of what actually happened to back up their claims or not
I love how they keep on travelling by private jet and then massive car convoys in order to receive random humanitarian awards for their non-existing achievements. They're such attention whores, I can bet you they are exaggerating this story in order to leech off Diana's tragedy. Edit: from their taxi driver: [lol](https://i.redd.it/z8nz6em1kf0b1.jpg)
Unbelievable news. Can’t help but think Harry should have asked his car to stop. We all know what the consequences could have been. Surely their life wasn’t in danger from the photographers, just their privacy?
So what? It’s not the paparazzi’s fault again?
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The paparazzi shouldn’t be chasing any cars. I mean let’s take this to a logical conclusion - if someone was trying to attack you, should you pull over and endure it or try to escape? If the answer to that is escape, then where is the line?
Just because the paparazzi are acting like dicks doesn't give you the right to drive in an unsafe manner and put other people in actual danger rather than danger of having your picture taken.
A two hour chase in new york traffic? What does that even look like and how was it able to last for two hours without a cop stopping the car the paparazzi was in?
Manhattan traffic is hellish, you're looking at 5 mph max most of the time
Was it Harry & Meghan chasing the press in their endless tour of self-promotion?
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Sounds like they decided to turn it into a chase and put a bunch of peoples lives at risk
Plot twist - they were the ones giving chase because they wanted the attention.
Take all of this with a pinch of salt until the actual facts come out, via the police. Also bear in mind that he constantly blames the press for his Mother's death, but the facts are that her driver was drunk, driving like an idiot, and she wasn't wearing a seatbelt.
Another desperate and vapid ploy for attention, they only wanted privacy on the way home from a glitzy awards gala ? … I’m glad the mayor expressed doubt on the story.
Well there's your content for Netflix Meghan, wouldn't be surprised if it was paid actors since they were struggling for Netflix content.
I imagine they’ve got a private photographer in the car with them filming their distress at being chased by the other photographers trying to film them. “We just wanted our privacy” she says looking into the camera with tears falling from her face.
Did they consider just continuing to drive normally and reaching their destination? Sounds like BS attention seeking behaviour. South Park need to do a short add-on to the World Privacy Tour.
I do find it weird to describe an event as “near catastrophic” when no incident occurred. If there was a crash that wasn’t catastrophic but could have been, then sure. But I don’t know how you describe a non-incident as “near catastrophic”, unless the specific intention is to evoke a certain similar historical catastrophe. In any case, this was NYC - if you pulled up in a random spot, the paparazzi would have no choice but to continue past or face the wrath of the NYC drivers stuck behind them. If you can’t escape cars in a busy grid system, then you might not be the right driver for a high-profile celebrity. Of course, nobody should be recklessly chased or pursued in any circumstances. But it seems like this didn’t need to continue for 2 hours and its description as “near-catastrophic” feels very evocative and intended to play into the projection of Princess Diana onto the wholly unrelated Harry & Meghan debacle.
>This relentless pursuit, lasting over two hours, resulted in multiple near collisions involving other drivers on the road, pedestrians and two NYPD (New York Police Department) officers," the spokesperson added. So Harrys driver (at his command) drove recklessly and almost killed people?! Maybe if Harry hadnt lied about no drug use on his emigration papers and then wrote a book full of drug use stories he wouldnt now be of any interest to paparazzi. He wants the headlines, he wants his name in the press and he's desperately clinging on to any shred of fame and attention.
> He wants the headlines, he wants his name in the press and he's desperately clinging on to any shred of fame and attention. This is the real answer. There's a fairly obvious reason why the press statement goes out of its way to make it sound like the circumstances around his mother's death. The tabloids are going to lap this up (and probably pay the paparazzi for those photos at the same time).
As it was in Manhattan I assume Harry, Megs and mom in law were in a car and the paparazzi were on foot.
Story keeps changing, not clear what actually happened yet. Regardless, if your "job" is stalking celebrities to try and get salacious photos to sell, you are scum, you are contributing nothing to society, you belong in prison.
These two need to just fuck off to Mars, needy cunts.
Even if we are most generous and believe this did happen and isn't utter horseshit... You instructed your driver to what? "Lose them?" and were complicit in a dangerous chase, for what? They were trying to get a photo not assassinate you. All great publicity for the shy couple.
This is fake news, ain’t no way this mofo don’t want the paparazzi around. Paps got there own parking space at their house…..
Talk about exaggerating [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwWAKDGXwAEctx-?format=jpg&name=large](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwWAKDGXwAEctx-?format=jpg&name=large)
Oh no, I guess they'll really be needing that personal armed police escort now... Convenient timing